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On December 15 2013 20:22 kushm4sta wrote:
hapa I think those quotes actually point to vayne being town.
Scum usually don't defend each other so blatantly.
Also, a common scum tactic is to town read someone who is acting superficially scummy (aka trolly) like me or vayne. They do this people are going to want to lynch us no matter what, and it's easy to reverse their read on us, and it's an easy way to look like they are contributing.
It wasn't that blatant I had to dig it out. It was subtle manipulation and something I didn't notice until I read through his filter. I think it is highly likely that Vayne is scum.
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On December 15 2013 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 20:22 Xatalos wrote:
Btw rayn, how would you say Artanis affected the purple lynch? I'm rereading through the events and I don't really see as big of an impact from him as I thought. Basically it seems to be mostly your own doing. Artanis did cause you to switch from XigXag to purple, but that's about it for his contribution to the lynch (besides his vote).
Obviously without Artanis's vote VA would have been lynched instead of purple, since it was only a matter of one vote in the end... Still, I'd say that
A) if VA is scum, Artanis has a very good chance of flipping scum
B) if VA is town/SK, Artanis has about an average chance of flipping scum (much less than if VA is scum, but it could still be a clever play by him) As i said i think when i was able to convince Plutarch to join the purpletrator lynch i think it's reasonably to assume other people will join asewll so i don't really think the votes after that matter too much alignmentwise. Unless Vayne is town and the wagon is scumfree - which (both of them being true) i can't possibly believe.
I'm interested in the events before Plutarch joined the wagon. Would you say that Artanis caused you to start pushing for purple? He took credit for it, but did he actually change your mind?
It's a bit weird that scum would bus purple in that situation (him having less votes than VA) unless VA was also scum. If VA was scum, then it'd make a lot of sense, I guess.
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On December 15 2013 05:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is everyone thinking purple is scummy but noone wants to lynch him?
On December 15 2013 05:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:27 Alakaslam wrote:On December 15 2013 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 15 2013 05:10 Alakaslam wrote:On December 14 2013 03:24 purpletrator wrote:On December 14 2013 03:10 Corazon wrote:
Yeah I'm done playing this game. HF was scummy and all you idiots calling me out for shooting him don't understand what you are talking about.
I'm just gonna vote Xatalos until he dies and then Plutarch. Later. I cannot fathom how angry you must be all the time if you are unable to take a step back and consider that HolyFlare LITERALLY flipped town. He thinks you were scummy. Regardless of how you PERSONALLY felt about his attacks, his actions were TOWNY. END OF DISCUSSION. Now, if you want to explain your choice of shot based on you having a town PM and a scum-read on Holy, thats fine in retrospect. However, for you to continue to claim that Holy was scummy and expect us to believe that in the slightest is ridiculous and you should rethink how you portray yourself to the town from here on. You are "confirmed" town. There has been no counterclaim. You have the greatest motive to have shot HolyFlare, you claim to have done it and an "ass-bullet" has been reported. All these things point to you being confirmed town. Despite all this, Plutarch is STILL townier than you are, and he's only semi-confirmed.
On December 14 2013 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I could get behind Artanis lynch. He says i have some information i should not have, does not explain it at all, does not address my case on Plutarch at all, but instead accuses me because of it (i don't even know what the hell). Definitely a good lynch. Then we can lynch Plutarch who makes 2 different reads from same posts. Your case is bad and you should feel bad. You're also scum, so you should feel bad. Nice try rayn. You're probably the only player in the game who could reasonably push Plutarch and not get lynched for it. Except you're going to get lynched for it.. Since no one wants my friendship points, Holyflares last post while alive On December 13 2013 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
Cora just copied half the shit i wrote in my vote analysis post, claims I'm scum. I'm going to die tonight plu is ma fwend.
Lynch cora, artanis, xatalos, bum, grack most of those are scummy ##Vote: raynpelikoneet Haha Rayne please remind me how u aren't OMGUSing, no offense I swear I am not OMGUSing... Do you think "you are bad and you should feel bad, also you are scum" would somehow make me scum?  Oh I know. I'm not sayin he is right. Just saying, remind me what your actual motives are, especially now that I'm not seeing it I want to know... My case on D1. Then he's done nothing but shitflinging on D2.
This is why i did vote for purple. And the fact that i did not think either of Vayne / LSB would flip mafia. Artanis was not happening.
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Can you agree Rayn that the Slam vote on XigXag could have come from a confused and panicked scum whose buddies got wagoned at the last second?
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On December 15 2013 21:35 Plutarch wrote:
Can you agree Rayn that the Slam vote on XigXag could have come from a confused and panicked scum whose buddies got wagoned at the last second?
Yes i can. I just do not know if it really di. I am not sure tbh, but i agree that's a possibility and not even asmall one, especially considering his behavior after the lynch.
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On December 15 2013 08:04 sidesprang wrote:
Only conclusion atm that i feel good about is that
IF vayne = town -> artanis = town.
Alakaslam deffo seem a bit wierd with how much he changed his vote and that late vote off from purp, but you can also see at one point he gave purple the lead. So it's a bit confusing why he would do that as scum.
Oh and BTW, Please feel free to double check it. Tho the count I have in the sheet do seem to make up to the same as the mods counted.
Btw this is pretty weak considering he put a shitton amount of work in making the vote-switch-tally.
Like he does all the work and then says "if vayne is town artanis is most likely too and idk about alakaslam"..
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I just found something interesting.
These are the only times Rayn mentioned purple AT ALL until purple became his direct counter wagon.
On December 14 2013 05:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
read my filter and you'll have all those answers except purple, who I don't know about yet
On December 15 2013 05:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
voting for purple at this point would just be committing suicide rayn, you would have to get more votes to even consder it. No one answered my question tho on why LSB support is dwindling when all he did was come back and vote me.
On December 15 2013 05:46 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 15 2013 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
probably gonna get lynched, so yea please kill LSB, artanis, and maybe even JJD when I flip town since his tunnel is playing to his scum meta.
4th scum is probably some random llurker so don't really care You will not get lynched. I'll make sure of it. Now vote for purple, if the vote is not enough we switch to LSB. but purple is scum. that really is not an option, look at the voting. it would have to be LSB or XX and XX would be a shot in the dark
3 Times in 2 entire cylces. each time dissuading the town from trying to lynch purple.
The, and this is important, Vayne votes Purple out of nowhere and only because purp is his direct counter wagon.
On December 15 2013 05:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
it's not going to do anything
##unvote
##vote: purple
im dead poretty much unless miracle
Since then he mentions purple 15! times. in a pretty obvious bus.
On December 15 2013 05:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
alakaslam and purple are scum.
On December 15 2013 05:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
purple is 100% scum, some one help me out here
On December 15 2013 06:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
why did alakaslam and purple try to force kill me together? right after alakaslam said he wanted purple lynched
On December 15 2013 06:02 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:On December 15 2013 05:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Alakaslam what r u doing w/ ur vote? Making sure if it is equal between vayne and LSB it winds up being vayne. I would prefer purple and cig. and then you and purple vote to try and kill me.
On December 15 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:also rayn, i saw what you meant after I read this Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 02:14 purpletrator wrote:
hey kush, why did/do you have me as green? good enough reason to vote him
He does not give reasoning or provide evidence. He flips a switch and milks town cred.
Then comes this post which states there are association tells galore (there really aren't) in an attempt to set up next lynch off the back of purples lynch
On December 15 2013 06:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
purple and LSB have association tells galore in his filter, I don't see why we don't lynch LSB too
In summary Vayne mentions purple only 3! times up until the end of day 2, each time dissuading people from lynching purp.
He then has to bus when they are direct counter wagons to each other and blatantly does so. Mentioning purp 15! times in minutes.
Please lynch Vayne tomorrow.
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Ew. The rayn at the top should be Vayne. Fucking confused.
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On December 15 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 08:04 sidesprang wrote:
Only conclusion atm that i feel good about is that
IF vayne = town -> artanis = town.
Alakaslam deffo seem a bit wierd with how much he changed his vote and that late vote off from purp, but you can also see at one point he gave purple the lead. So it's a bit confusing why he would do that as scum.
Oh and BTW, Please feel free to double check it. Tho the count I have in the sheet do seem to make up to the same as the mods counted. Btw this is pretty weak considering he put a shitton amount of work in making the vote-switch-tally. Like he does all the work and then says "if vayne is town artanis is most likely too and idk about alakaslam"..
Yeah, that's a pretty weak result from the "big vote analysis"....
But what do you think of that result? I think it's pretty correct. If VA is scum, then Artanis is pretty likely as well. But it seems significantly less likely if VA is town. I also asked you a question about Artanis's behaviour earlier.
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On December 15 2013 21:55 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 15 2013 08:04 sidesprang wrote:
Only conclusion atm that i feel good about is that
IF vayne = town -> artanis = town.
Alakaslam deffo seem a bit wierd with how much he changed his vote and that late vote off from purp, but you can also see at one point he gave purple the lead. So it's a bit confusing why he would do that as scum.
Oh and BTW, Please feel free to double check it. Tho the count I have in the sheet do seem to make up to the same as the mods counted. Btw this is pretty weak considering he put a shitton amount of work in making the vote-switch-tally. Like he does all the work and then says "if vayne is town artanis is most likely too and idk about alakaslam".. Yeah, that's a pretty weak result from the "big vote analysis".... But what do you think of that result? I think it's pretty correct. If VA is scum, then Artanis is pretty likely as well. But it seems significantly less likely if VA is town. I also asked you a question about Artanis's behaviour earlier.
I think i answered it. Artanis did not affect me in voting for purple.
In fact after i did vote for purple Artanis didn't seem like he wanted to lynch purple at all lol.
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On December 15 2013 22:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 21:55 Xatalos wrote:On December 15 2013 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 15 2013 08:04 sidesprang wrote:
Only conclusion atm that i feel good about is that
IF vayne = town -> artanis = town.
Alakaslam deffo seem a bit wierd with how much he changed his vote and that late vote off from purp, but you can also see at one point he gave purple the lead. So it's a bit confusing why he would do that as scum.
Oh and BTW, Please feel free to double check it. Tho the count I have in the sheet do seem to make up to the same as the mods counted. Btw this is pretty weak considering he put a shitton amount of work in making the vote-switch-tally. Like he does all the work and then says "if vayne is town artanis is most likely too and idk about alakaslam".. Yeah, that's a pretty weak result from the "big vote analysis".... But what do you think of that result? I think it's pretty correct. If VA is scum, then Artanis is pretty likely as well. But it seems significantly less likely if VA is town. I also asked you a question about Artanis's behaviour earlier. I think i answered it. Artanis did not affect me in voting for purple. In fact after i did vote for purple Artanis didn't seem like he wanted to lynch purple at all lol.
LOL. Well, maybe he's just scum then and messed that lynch up.
Did you see him claiming credit for the lynch right after though? It could be that he accidentally caused it to happen (by being a decisive vote among others) and tried to make the best out of the situation by exaggerating his contribution.
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No responses to my analysis?
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On December 15 2013 21:49 Plutarch wrote:I just found something interesting. These are the only times Rayn mentioned purple AT ALL until purple became his direct counter wagon. Show nested quote +On December 14 2013 05:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
read my filter and you'll have all those answers except purple, who I don't know about yet Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
voting for purple at this point would just be committing suicide rayn, you would have to get more votes to even consder it. No one answered my question tho on why LSB support is dwindling when all he did was come back and vote me. Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:46 VayneAuthority wrote:On December 15 2013 05:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 15 2013 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
probably gonna get lynched, so yea please kill LSB, artanis, and maybe even JJD when I flip town since his tunnel is playing to his scum meta.
4th scum is probably some random llurker so don't really care You will not get lynched. I'll make sure of it. Now vote for purple, if the vote is not enough we switch to LSB. but purple is scum. that really is not an option, look at the voting. it would have to be LSB or XX and XX would be a shot in the dark 3 Times in 2 entire cylces. each time dissuading the town from trying to lynch purple. The, and this is important, Vayne votes Purple out of nowhere and only because purp is his direct counter wagon. Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
it's not going to do anything
##unvote
##vote: purple
im dead poretty much unless miracle Since then he mentions purple 15! times. in a pretty obvious bus. Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
alakaslam and purple are scum. Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 05:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
purple is 100% scum, some one help me out here Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 06:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
why did alakaslam and purple try to force kill me together? right after alakaslam said he wanted purple lynched Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 06:02 VayneAuthority wrote:On December 15 2013 05:54 Alakaslam wrote:On December 15 2013 05:52 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@Alakaslam what r u doing w/ ur vote? Making sure if it is equal between vayne and LSB it winds up being vayne. I would prefer purple and cig. and then you and purple vote to try and kill me. Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:also rayn, i saw what you meant after I read this On December 12 2013 02:14 purpletrator wrote:
hey kush, why did/do you have me as green? good enough reason to vote him He does not give reasoning or provide evidence. He flips a switch and milks town cred. Then comes this post which states there are association tells galore (there really aren't) in an attempt to set up next lynch off the back of purples lynch Show nested quote +On December 15 2013 06:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
purple and LSB have association tells galore in his filter, I don't see why we don't lynch LSB too In summary Vayne mentions purple only 3! times up until the end of day 2, each time dissuading people from lynching purp. He then has to bus when they are direct counter wagons to each other and blatantly does so. Mentioning purp 15! times in minutes. Please lynch Vayne tomorrow.
Yeah, I agree on this mostly. It's pretty suspicious that VA is very reluctant to talk about / lynch purple until it's either him or purple, and suddenly purple is 100% scum. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a "not lynchable" -> 100% bus move.
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On the other hand, it's weird that the top 2 lynches would be scum. And there are other reasons that make VA less likely scum.
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I think grack could be scum too.
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On December 15 2013 23:01 Xatalos wrote:
On the other hand, it's weird that the top 2 lynches would be scum. And there are other reasons that make VA less likely scum.
Why would the top two lynches being scum be weird. Town decide the wagons generally. Especially in this town where the top 3 players are obv town.
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I would like people to read grack's filter and tell me what they think in light of the flip today.
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On December 15 2013 23:03 Plutarch wrote:
I would like people to read grack's filter and tell me what they think in light of the flip today.
Grackaroni is definitely one of the most suspicious votes (if not the most suspicious). He was very unwilling to lynch purple.
Incidentally, his D1 vote was also one of the most scummy:
On December 12 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Geez Vayne actually slipped lol. Un-lynchable scum record goodbye I will take pleasure in this.
##Unvote: Alakaslam
##Vote: VayneAuthority
I don't think it prevents Slam from being scum.
I don't think VA and Grackaroni are scum together, though. And Grackaroni is very scummy on his own rights.
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