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Chez so did you see me shoot mz or what?
Anyway sorry my townie bros but I am going to continue to be pretty useless for awhile. Decided to road trip to ATL for a football game last minute so I can only phone post this weekend (and sporadically at best).
Sandroba/super will probably want to lynch me based solely on meta and I only have excuses for my activity but it is what it is. I may not be around if people try to lynch me so my defense is thus, 1) I wouldnt take cho has mafia all the way up at 5 2) Even if I did take cho for some reason I sure as hell wouldnt have shot MZ. I would have picked an important townie to set up the n2 kill. 3) Read my posts and ask if I am bullshitting or giving my genuine thoughts 4) The one time frame I wasnt sick and was around (near bums lynch) I was pretty clearly my townie self. I was working to promote discussion and asking bum questions all the way till the end to try and figure out if he was the right lynch.
Couple random thoughts from reading,
onegu-probably town just based on how he roleclaimed. Did it in a way that really makes little sense for mafia.
VE- why is VE so useless? Lurker lynch with 210 pages to work with are you kidding me? He is a dt and considering the possible missing mafia kp and the claimed damage seems very likely town. So why isnt he leading the town to hunt scum? I feel like a town VE with a lot of town cred is going to put effort in to actually find scum and not just push a lurker lynch. Dont need to worry about VE as a lynch candidate since he is a problem that solves itself but if he survives and doesnt find scum people should be very suspicious.
For the lynch I am going to vote MZ for now. Austin to me looked a lot better in his defense, seemed very open with his thoughts.
MZ, I havent seen you answer a question sandroba asked you earlier why were you not concerned at all that I tried to shoot you? Do you think this makes me town or scum? You havent even commented on it. You just seem to be coasting this game.
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On December 07 2013 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Gosh Mig, if you think I'm not a lynch candidate then why mention me at all? :O
You shouldnt be a lynch candidate for obvious reasons. If you are town mafia either shoots you or risks you finding them with dt powers. But if you live a long time and you arent finding scum then something is up and town should keep this in mind.
Can you explain why you think lurker lynch is optimal right now instead of actually putting the effort into scum hunting?
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On December 07 2013 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Firstly @sandroba that's pretty weak.
Secondly @mig: why should I be concerned you shot me? You're voting me now, you apparently decided I was scum sometime last night, there are a lot of people I'd lynch ahead of you. Your shot is not a solid tell one way or another because I can make arguments for it being both town or scum.
Why wouldnt you be concerned that I shot you lol. Being shot is something to be concerned over and if I knew who shot me I would be looking into them to see whether they shot me as a townie or scum. You just seem lacksidasical about it all. You cared enough about the game to rage about people playing bad but then just shrug your shoulders at someone claiming to shoot you? Seems weird to me.
What do you think about austin? Who do you plan on voting for?
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christ odin what is your issue, the game isnt even very hostile. Regular people should be able to handle this game honestly.
I only have a minute to check in here. I still dont want to vote austin, roffles seems like a cop out where people can vote without getting backlash. Any thoughts about a last minute LSB push? LSB has completely half assed it since he has fallen under the radar.
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If you ask for a modkill because you arent having fun then you are an asshole and I hope you dont return to play in the TL mafia community. When you sign up you are making a commitment tl the hosts and your team to try and win. Suiciding ans fucking over the people trying is pathetic, I would include roffles as pathetic if he is town. I have been sick as hell and now I am traveling, mafia isnt fun under these circumstances but I still wouldnt quit.
Anyway, super sometimes I dont know if you are dense on purpose or just being your normal super self. Explain to me why, exactly if me and mz were both mafia, I would waste my shot on him last night which tells hp and then vote him when I could vote austin with very little backlash.
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Hey, I am like 30 pages behind but has anyone mentioned Chez watched koshi last night. Didnt chez say koshi did not invent the crown? Why would he lie to town about it. Doesnt this point to koshi being mafia and dropping inventor to a buddy?
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On December 05 2013 18:34 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 18:31 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 18:31 supersoft wrote: I have no idea how these inventions work, but wasn't kosh supposed to build this listchecker? Not allwoed in any form. On December 05 2013 18:31 Chezinu wrote:On December 05 2013 18:28 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 18:27 Chezinu wrote:On December 05 2013 18:26 Koshi wrote: No it's a crown. It's great to be King! I'm Like a Lion but Ghost-like. I might want to make an item that fits you later. Did you make something last night? Yes. Don't you know I see all. You did not make anything. *tisk tisk* If rayn is willing to give you protection, then we may need to look more into you. Rayn doesn't support the good guys, at least from my experience last game. Why you gotz to lie? Why did rayn have to lie? Why did Mig have to be sick!
"Chezinu -> spies on Koshi, rayne, jcarlsoniv and Mig to see what they are doing."
So how is koshi not mafia?
Mimic - During the night, you choose 4 players. If those players used an ability on that night, you will learn that ability's full details with the daypost. You may then select one of those abilities to use on the following night. If no player you have selected uses an ability, you may use this ability again on the following night. One-shot.
On December 06 2013 03:44 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 18:34 Chezinu wrote:On December 05 2013 18:31 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 18:31 supersoft wrote: I have no idea how these inventions work, but wasn't kosh supposed to build this listchecker? Not allwoed in any form. On December 05 2013 18:31 Chezinu wrote:On December 05 2013 18:28 Koshi wrote:On December 05 2013 18:27 Chezinu wrote:On December 05 2013 18:26 Koshi wrote: No it's a crown. It's great to be King! I'm Like a Lion but Ghost-like. I might want to make an item that fits you later. Did you make something last night? Yes. Don't you know I see all. You did not make anything. *tisk tisk* If rayn is willing to give you protection, then we may need to look more into you. Rayn doesn't support the good guys, at least from my experience last game. Why you gotz to lie? Why did rayn have to lie? Why did Mig have to be sick! Pretty sure I made something and the hosts confirmed it in the Daypost. The invention of The Crown of Solomon was not by your ability. I see you claim to have taken 50 damage.. interestingly poor choice... Do you think rayn is that slow?
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Look at those quotes by chez lol he straight up calls koshi a liar. Dont see how else to interpret it and if he had seen koshi invent something he would have used it and we would have had 2 inventions last night.
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I am reading it but fucking show me how those quotes are wrong. Chez doesnt lie to the town when he knows what happened. He fucks around with his posts but he breadcrumbs the truth.
Tell me why he didnt copy the inventor the power if he saw koshi use it. According to chez koshi is not the inventor.
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If chez watched rayne also he would have known what he did and he would know of the possibility that his power could br blocked. But he said pretty clearly that koshi is lying.
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On December 09 2013 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: If any of you even read Chezinu's posts about my power you should know why his power did not go through and why Koshi was hit by 50 KP. So jcarl and Mig, what are you doing? Some selective reading that suits your agenda? It is obvious you have not read Chezinu's posts fully, apparently he did not read himself.
Explain, he claims to have watched you and koshi, if he thought you had prevented him from seeing koshi why did he say definitively that koshi didnt invent anything.
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I am home and caught up.
Koshi did you purposefully include the hp checks section of the medic radio?
I tried to shoot MZ last night to confirm if he was telling the truth about his ability. I got no result. Not sure if I was rbd or mz was protected or what. If MZ was protected somehow last night could explain why the crown didn't work.
Coag obviously should be lynched today, has a mafia favored role, his claim about the nuke doesn't make sense etc.
VE looks terrible, he is putting totally no effort into the game and why didn't mafia shoot him last night? They roleblocked fuba apparently so they really just left VE alone to use his power? I guess it is possible they have 2 rbers and roleblocked VE also but that seems unlikely. He then coincidentally decides to target his power on the guy who has the ability to block himself off for 2 nights. Some of the suspicious things VE has done this game
1) claims lux immediately, which allows him to be role blocked or killed by the mafia. He is a parity cop he takes awhile before he gets good checks claiming immediately is awful. His explanation that he is a big target at the #3 spot anyway is retarded.
2) jcarl gives him the lantern and he claims in thread he wont use it. Why? Even if he is suspicious of jcarl he doesn't know for a fact that jcarl is mafia. If he was town he should claim he was going to use it even if he wasn't because if jcarl is town maybe mafia wouldn't use their powers on him that night.
3) chooses to use his check on the guy whose only power we know for sure is to block yourself off for 2 nights. Even if you think hes mafia there are a lot safer checks to try and make sure you actually get something useful. Especially for your first check that will actually tell us anything.
Either VE is playing an incredibly dumb town game where he does not think about his actions at all or he is mafia.
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Also btw jcarl has claimed that the lantern will protect people from roleblocks? So VE claiming he won't use it in thread gives himself an out to say he was rbd and he doesn't have to give his checks.
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On December 10 2013 06:24 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 05:25 ticklishmusic wrote: Okay Rayn, let me see if I'm following your thought process here:
1. I knew that Sandro had Fiora 2. I knew he used Riposte that night 3. Despite that, I attacked him so I could get a bajillion damage reflected back at me because of super scummy mafia reasons that you don't understand
Maybe supersoft knows this because, Idunno, he reads the thread. thank you. @mig: Given Coag is scum - what I am fairly convinced he is - why do you think he used his power right now? I mean he wasn't in more danger than gtrsrs or roffels (if one of them is town) to get lynched. His lurking is equally scummy and I guess the scumteam should have been a fair chance to save him.
I really have no clue, if his powers only require pms why did he say anything in thread at all? The only logical explanation for it I have is either A) he is just being an idiot and decided to fuck around (which seems possible considering he hasn't even argued to try and save himself at all). or B) they have some sort of power which can fuck up the lynch. This would be a nightmare.
Why do you think he used his power and why claim it in thread?
Also what do you think of VE?
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It isn't even like MZ was dead tho, seems dumb to trade a mafia member just in the hopes it gets us distracted from MZ. If coags power required him to post in thread then I could agree with this but he posted #nuke meapak and then it hit fuba so obviously he didn't have to say shit in thread right.
Seems more likely that if Coag is mafia he is just being coag and doing dumb shit.
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When Coag flips we will know more, if his power says something about having to type in thread #nuke before it can launch or something then maybe he was used as a distraction.
Seems really clear that Coag is mafia a high % of the time. Nuked one of the most likely people to be town and someone who had an inventor item (mafia may not have realized it was a one shot when they decided to nuke him). And now Coag is just trolling and not even trying to save himself. Everyone should be lynching Coag just to prevent any sort of shenanigans.
VE, who besides coag/jcarl do you think is mafia. Why did you not consider jcarl's power before deciding to check him?
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Do we know for sure that roleblocks stop inventor items?
Would a role block stop an inventor's item working for someone or only prevent them from using their own powers?
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If Coag fucking targeted fuba as town instead of picking 2 scummy players then he set an entirely new record dumb coag shit.
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One thing kush, maybe coag is telling the truth about his ability being whoever posts first gets nuked but he never had it pointed at mz. He had it pointed at fuba and some other townie. It seriously makes no sense that he would say #nuke meapak in thread and THEN he sent in the pm to the hosts with his targets. Because meapak responded right away and wasn't nuked.
If coag did somehow do this as town and he also decided to target one of the people most likely to be town who also might have had an invention then coag is so dumb they would need to invent a new word to describe it.
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Kush do you actually think ticklish should be modkilled or are you just trying to be a dick and ruin the game even further with more modkills? Rules should be flexible based on intentions. If he was editing to alter his posts that is one thing but an edit that was clearly a mistake and meant nothing is another.
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