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Ye no I'm entirely chasing rainbows by trying to pursue it. I realized it a second ago after my ego went "WTF Rayn this might have merit!" And then I actually thought about it and realized I'm being retarded with that logic. Mainly because I don't have a scum read on you or Mocsta right now. Koshi, meh, maby null. He's not helping in anyway but there is 0 chance of a lynch unless he strait does nothing for all of today. Thus continue to push this arguement does nothing but disrupt the town. I'm being an idiot for trying to dig into it. I have come to understand this. 3 Mods wrote flavors, they will be slightly different. w/e. Progress the game instead of trying to believe something that would be way to easy to lie about(With literally zero chance to prove such).
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Actually wait, You guys are moving fast but when was it implied that VE used his binding light over Lux Cannon ? You can just quote/gimme a page number but I just checked his filter and didn't see him imply that he checked anyone.
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Ok so per that statement... VE which people did you check? And what results did you get back?
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oh wait, I misunderstood her ability. We'll have to wait until D3 to get a result of his check?
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Ye sorry Ve, I was mistakes her binding light for Ashe hawk check. I just went and checked the OP so ye. per curiosity though.. Who did you check?
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Well let me re-word that... Did you aim towards a scum read tonight or a town read? Because I'll assume you'll aim the opposite tomorrow to get a opposing result.
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Mmmmmk, Hi guys!
Just caught up in the thread... and well, I have some filter diving to do. It will probably take a good bit of time since I want to actually think about what I just finished reading with some thought but I'll try to get it done tonight.
My main focus tonight/tomorrow morning will be Austin, Rean, VE, Mocsta.
People I'll probably get to in the morning if not tonight include Mocsta (I am somewhere between slight townies/null atm but I want to filter.), Chez (Sadly I have to agree with some people here. I find it next to impossible to read half of what this guy writes and thus to avoid headaches induced by riddles tonight.... Will probably be put on a back-burner for tomorrow.), Onegu (Per his case on me I want to wait and see what else comes out of him. I also don't want to be biased in reading him so I'm strait up not going to write about him tonight.)
If people have questions for me I will be around for a while tonight as I have tomorrow off.
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Oh also, add Mig and Jonny to that list. Hopefully for tonight.
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LSB you're asking questions they can't possibly answer without breaking the game. It's for the role holder to know. Not you.
Personal opinion.
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Yes Onegu, I intend to. Gimme some time. I want to read filters and I'll answer your case post.
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Ok please Onegu, I'm trying to be productive this game and I really wanted to finish my initial scum read filters before I did you but since I already said I was around and your going to put heat on me again *(If I'm your scum read PLS do put heat on me, but the fact I said I'd be around for a while and wanted to focus on adding content, which you don't seem to care about seeing at all...) I'm going to go ahead and filter you and respond to your case asap. Give me 20 minutes.
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After I respond to your case agains't me I'm going to mainly ignore mute points because again, as I mentioned before when I came back, I don't want tobe biased in making, until tomorrow morning.
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No Onegu, Whenever I am gone from the thread, I am not lurking. I am gone. This isn't me trying to discredit you in anyway btw. Everyone should read the QT from my NMM L game. Not only does it co-inside with my other 3 townie games on me having a lot of prior obligations, it will illustrate that as scum, whenever I get backed into a corner, I completely shut down. Does my game so far this time feel like that to you (Or anyone else)?
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Also, here you guys go, my response to Onegu's case.
#1) Who other than basically solely Rayn scum hunted Day 0? This statement is calling me scum for doing the same thing 30/31 players are doing. Do you honestly me expect me to be able to find scum based on 90% of the post during this phase concerning someone specific knowledge on Lol? #2) Your first quote about my LSB vote. Mmk, and if you read my meta... out of every single mafia game I've been in, regardless of alignment, I'm hard pressed for time. How does this make me scum?
#3) You skip the rest of my post here. The fact I don't hard push for a different read I acknowledge as being questionable. I also gave a reason in the thread to as why I wasn't doing it. Yes, per Bum's filter I found him as possible scum. I mention that as I had re-read it I was skeptical that he was confirmed scum. So what's wrong with me putting my vote on the only counter wagon that I could get behind at the time? Also was it not obvious that Bum (With like 12-13 votes and LSB, the runner up, was not gaining anyvotes per Sandro's arguement) was going to indeed go through D1? Read my filter. You obviously glanced over it, why are you omitting so much?
#4) How was my Kush case bad? Do people honestly believe that? I thought my train of thought was pretty obvious. The only reason I gave it up without a hard push was because my town reads at the time told me to drop it. The main reasoning for dropping it was meta related iirc. What is wrong with me trying to get Kush games to meta read off of? I mention I didn't have time THAT NIGHT to read them. .. . ... Re previous comment that is in this post.
Your extra observations.
#1) I didn't want to ban talon. K, so you're saying every game that has a scum God-father in it is a insta town loss? I don't believe you at all. I banned my priority bans. Talon wasn't one of them. So what?
#2) What's wrong with me adjusting my stance when I think about something? What's wrong with me changing my read on the subject per more than 3/4'th of the thread hasn't actually gone into this plan yet. I say exactly what I meant there. I'm not disagreeing with the plan, just saying unless people get onboard the only thing it is accomplishing is outing roles for mafia to target. This makes me scum.... how?
You're next post after that is verifying my point I just made. These post are a train of thought but you're trying to break them up. I don't understand why you are doing it. The fact I was just shooting my thoughts into the thread when they popped into my mind, and you are trying to twist it into a scum read is mind boggling.
Your last quote against me. I'm scum for posting a update on my feelings on a player at the time makes me scum?
Over-all you're entire case I feel is a bunch of WIFOM and just trying to frame me to look bad.
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I'm working on that Jonny. My early question to you would be... I don't completely agree with the case agains't you. However your pushing seems so different to me this time around than our last game together. Last game I made one (Honest but drunk) post about how I didn't like you and you pushed me almost to a lynch d1. What changed? Why haven't you done so on anyone this entire game so far? You seem so hesitant to shove a scum read down someone's throat this game. You did it very effectively last game that I was confidant enough to kill you in the night for it. I'm not convinced you're scum yet this game but you're making me question it.
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Actually I'm not even sure if my drunk post was about you. But you 100% commited to it and I did almost get lynched for it. (I was the #2 runner up.) I mean where is that confidence this game?
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@Mocsta, I'm not sure that sayd much considering Austin is Rean's sole read this game. (I don't remember anyone else..) His reasons aren't strong, but what else could he have even claimed to do if he DIDN'T do as he claimed to do?
"Hey guys, Austin is my scum read.. I totally hit xyz with 50kp for no reason"
Doesn't make any sense. Why are you giving him town credit for this action when it's the only avenue he left himself?
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Mocsta,
What gives you the impression he is going to push his vote at all? Also, what per his day actions gives him any ability to help lead a scum agenda with his team if he is scum? The only thing I get for it is a easy out later if Austin flips town. (Not convinced of at this point but need to finished filter... Dang I should probably completely ignore the thread and do that but meh. {This is townie Odin saying he don't give a rats if it takes him 10 hours to do huehue [But seriously I will have some reads out tonight pls no lynch until I do]}
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VE, per the lurker comment... why not wait until the night... How much KP does your Cannon do? After we get alignment checks if you can clear a field of lurkers do so. That comment is subject to change depending on how your ability actually works. Like do you have any choice or is it just a line (in a row.) of hit targets? The amount of lurkers in this game is just retarded and I wish these replacements went into lurkers instead of people that were active. Didn't work out that way though. The town needs a way to deal with half the freaking population being lurky as fuck though.
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Ye I'm not going to lie, it's so hard to justify my scum reads vs half the players completely ignoring this game 90% of the time. That's so bad and it's completely ruining the town.
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