PYP: League of Legends Mafia - Page 76

On December 03 2013 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
The case on gtrsrs is actually fairly weak until you introduce the meta aspect, when it strengthens markedly. Because otherwise yes, it is hard to distinguish between lazy town and mafia.

Seems weird you'd disregard that Jonny, especially as you are apparently familiar/have looked at kush's past games.

On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:

During the game I played with you I thought you were towns tons of times. Reads can change thru out the game. But you played scum very well and proceeded to trick everyone and win the game as scum. I thought i had played another game with you but i was wrong. Regardless my whole post was to say you play a very good scum and I if you play townie-like there is a still a very strong chance you can be scum. So im gonna FOS you like a sonovabitch.

Also you have me a scum read I read later on. Please Marv tell me why I would create a terrible case on you a townie vet. As mafia and draw my self into the spotlight. It wasn't even a case ffs. It was a gut read. You say Im bullshitting. But how is a gut read bullshitting it just is a feeling. If your not dead in a day or 2 your prolly mafia regardless of how your playing.



Roffles I have never played with you. Your reasoning is shit because I don't play town how others would or optimally. I am unique or as some would say lynchbait. Oh no you say you shouldn't call your self lynchbait thats anti town. Well actually referring to my self as lynch bait is a null tell. I do it as scum or town. If you wanna make a case on me go read some of my games and understand my meta. Cause if you use simple basic guidelines for town, your gonna mislynch a townie.

My reasoning for going after Marv is because I played a good scum game and I'm very wary of him cause he won the game for his team. Would scum go after a Vet like Marv let alone my scum play. I basically lurk super hard as scum I wouldn't go after someone like Marv because that would draw unwanted attention. Regardless read my meta or drop the case, cause its shit.

On December 03 2013 06:13 Koshi wrote:
I am totes here.

Kurumi is scummy in my eyes. Reason? Picked warwick while not knowing how he worked. But then knew it anyway. Also saying crazy stuff like scum having abilities outside the heroes.

On December 03 2013 06:58 Kurumi wrote:

I was working under assumption that Warwick was an Assassin from other games we've known. It turned out to be true. When did I say anything about scum having abilities outside the heroes?

On December 03 2013 06:54 sandroba wrote:
jay why don't you read those filters too? I don't like my vote on you quite as much right now.

On December 03 2013 07:04 sandroba wrote:
okay that maybe explains why i thought he suddenly was pretty townie =)

On December 03 2013 07:03 sandroba wrote:
@lsb i did roleclaim, but i don't think anyone should be doing this yet.

Maybe when people actually do something and put forward some actual info role claims can be beneficial/necessary.

On December 03 2013 03:34 LSB wrote:
Responses to things pointed at me
On not banning mafia roles:
Comeon guys, if someone picks and uses a mafia role, you kill em because they are scum. No sane townie would ever use the mafia role. Sure it makes things harder for the town, but if the mafia dares try to use their role, they are painting an easy target on their back.

Honestly I'd be okay with not having one or two flips for a guaranteed mafia kill. It would have been really easy to point out who took what role after a mass role claim. However I wasn't here for the ban phase and that is already over so I'm not going to comment on that


Of course I'm going to pick that role when I (as well as BC) singled it out as a power role. I am surprised that I actually got the role even though I am dead last pick.

Speaking of Which


What's up with this Bum? I would like a roleclaim please (Bumatlarge) as well as what you picked if you were VT. Or you can claim you went Tryndamere and we can both confirm our roles tonight.

I don't understand supersoft's argument so I won't respond to it unless someone can explain it to me.

Reposting the claim list
I admit that I skimmed so I might have missed additional claims. Can someone tell me if there are any discrepancies

Koshi [2][1] - Viktor
Kurumi [4][6] - Big Bad Wolf
VisceraEyes [5][4] - Lux
jcarlsoniv [9][3]
Mig [12][1] - Urgot?
JonnyLaw [14][11]
Risen [15][15]
StorrZerg [23][23]
geript [24][24] Warwick? -> VT?
austinmcc [6][3]
Meapak_Ziphh [6][14]
Sandroba Fiora?
Kenpachi[8][15] - VT?
Rean [16][2] ?-> VT
bumatlarge [16][12] ->
BloddyC0bbler [17][5] Janna?
justanothertownie
marvellosity [7][2] - Blue Claim
gtrsrs [7][11] Kha'Zix -> VT
OdinOfPergo [7][16] Karma -> VT
Mocsta [1][5] ? ->VT
supersoft [1][30]
Oatsmaster [1][1] Cho'Gath ->VT
raynpelikoneet [1][1] - Shen
kushm4sta
ticklishmusic Taric
Roffles
Coagulation
jaybrundage [Tabbz] Ezreal?
LSB -> Tryndamere

On December 03 2013 03:56 LSB wrote:
Lastly I'm going to policy vote Bum for not following through with what he was pushing. Just for a point of reference in PYP2 (i think), I was SK and I pushed heavily a plan, and I deviated from it as a way to attempt to make sure I was invincible.

##Vote: Bumatlarge

On December 03 2013 04:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I dont like passive so much this game we have no reliable means of clearing lurkers.

On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:

During the game I played with you I thought you were towns tons of times. Reads can change thru out the game. But you played scum very well and proceeded to trick everyone and win the game as scum. I thought i had played another game with you but i was wrong. Regardless my whole post was to say you play a very good scum and I if you play townie-like there is a still a very strong chance you can be scum. So im gonna FOS you like a sonovabitch.

Also you have me a scum read I read later on. Please Marv tell me why I would create a terrible case on you a townie vet. As mafia and draw my self into the spotlight. It wasn't even a case ffs. It was a gut read. You say Im bullshitting. But how is a gut read bullshitting it just is a feeling. If your not dead in a day or 2 your prolly mafia regardless of how your playing.



Roffles I have never played with you. Your reasoning is shit because I don't play town how others would or optimally. I am unique or as some would say lynchbait. Oh no you say you shouldn't call your self lynchbait thats anti town. Well actually referring to my self as lynch bait is a null tell. I do it as scum or town. If you wanna make a case on me go read some of my games and understand my meta. Cause if you use simple basic guidelines for town, your gonna mislynch a townie.

My reasoning for going after Marv is because I played a good scum game and I'm very wary of him cause he won the game for his team. Would scum go after a Vet like Marv let alone my scum play. I basically lurk super hard as scum I wouldn't go after someone like Marv because that would draw unwanted attention. Regardless read my meta or drop the case, cause its shit.

On December 03 2013 00:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:


I feel it. I know people aren't looking at him because he is usually aggressive (apparently), but his filter feels like just aggression to a whole bunch of different people. Then there are a few odd things:





Two directly contradictory posts.

There hasn't been a whole lot to look at since.

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Rayn - I still don't understand where half of your reads are coming from. Like, I see a little brief reasoning for some of them, but you're seeing things I'm not or you're drawing from past experiences and using gut reads off of very little. There are things I disagree with in your townie lists.

I put my target on you D0 because of this. That said, however - you have kept activity up and you seem to be working hard to do things right. I'm willing to acknowledge when I may have made a mistake.

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Concerning gtr -

I agree with most of the negative points made against him. However, I have also been in the position of really wanting a power role, and being bummed and unmotivated when I didn't get one. I can especially see this as the case when there are so many cool powers to grab.

I would want to see/hear more from him in general.

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Case against me -

It's a fine case I guess, but it's wrong.

I explained my early pinpointing of rayn above.

You focus on my aggression, but don't blink at geript's? Again, maybe this is because he is known for it, but his was more widespread. Mine was really just focused at rayn.

I did not change my opinion of speculating roles. Roffles implied that we really put in some time and nail down all the champs' extra abilities to try and strategize around it. I was pointing out that the DT roles were likely not all banned out and was considering some of the possible ones that could still be in - I thought it was relevant because scum was making an opaque push at getting rid of DTs.

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sorry I guess... I've been scum like, 2 or 3 times ever.

On December 03 2013 07:07 LSB wrote:

So I can mark you down as Fiora then?


I don't get this. Can you please explain?