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On December 03 2013 06:25 JonnyLaw wrote: gtrs - I dont like how his filter reads but he hasn't really given us much to lynch him either. I know he's capable of playing better as town so either he's busy, lazy or scum. None of these qualities help us win the game.
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Like you say you don't like how gtsrs filter reads. Cool, so you think he's scummy or whatever, but then you also say he's capable of playing better as town. How? Have you played with him before? Is his posting generally better than this? Your conclusion is that he's either busy, lazy or scum. Do you have any opinion on which of those it is? Are you down for policy-lynching him based on your last statement on him?
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hey koshi why did you sheep my shitty kurumi case?
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You guys both basically said what I said. He's not helping the town even if he is town. I read through his other games in which he's very active. There's likely a chance he either is scum or didn't get his role and as such won't give a shit.
I think we've said enough about him for now. There's just not a lot to go on unless he brings a defense forward. I want to see him pointing us in a stronger direction.
Kushmasta seems much scummier to me.
On December 03 2013 01:25 kushm4sta wrote: @ve it's more of a townie antitowniness. Town are more likely to act blatantly antitown than scum. Obviously there are exceptions for certain players.
I completely disagree with his post here.
On December 03 2013 01:26 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 01:23 Kurumi wrote:On December 03 2013 01:19 kushm4sta wrote:On December 03 2013 01:17 Kurumi wrote:On December 03 2013 01:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Kurumi - out of curiosity - why did you link your own filter to kush to look at? Probably to prove a point my mind tried to show me - kushm4sta does not care at all what he is going to read. huh what do you mean by this? you mean im scum or lazy? Lazy scum. gl with that opinion. im voting you now.
And what's the point of posting this shit? I don't like this vibe at all. He's saying scum won't act scummy while he's acting scummiest of all.
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Did you read the filters from his last games? He actually participates, reads the thread and tries to hunt scum. He's agro and pushing an agenda.
If he doesn't contribute I have no problem policy lynching him as a last resort. Until that happens I'd rather focus on people we can read since they're actually playing the game.
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hi im here. why do those quotes make me scum johnny?
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ok so your case is based on activity mainly?
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Kush there's not much to go on for gtr. I can't read if he's scum or not from the little he's given us.
You dropped into the thread, call soniv and gtr town. Fine, I don't disagree. You call yourself scum, two posts later say you people that act anti-town must be town then shit post for another page of one liners. You're distracting conversation and not trying to move it forward after your initial post on Kurumi.
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On December 03 2013 06:37 kushm4sta wrote: ok so your case is based on activity mainly?
Did you even read his post? His case on you is based on your posting.
On December 03 2013 06:35 JonnyLaw wrote: Did you read the filters from his last games? He actually participates, reads the thread and tries to hunt scum. He's agro and pushing an agenda.
If he doesn't contribute I have no problem policy lynching him as a last resort. Until that happens I'd rather focus on people we can read since they're actually playing the game.
This appears to be concerning gtrsrs.
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MY problem with him isn't activity. He's certainly not being active, but that's not why I dislike him. I didn't like the post where he called out one-liner posts. Like, when a townie does that they're usually like, trying to read the thread and stuff. But when gtsrs did it he had nothing more to add - he had no reads to speak of and asked no questions of the people who were active. I wasn't convinced after reading that post that gtsrs was reading the thread at all - just bitching about people posting.
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My final point on gtr is this.
He's not helping town in any fashion right now. There's still nearly 30 hours till end of day so let's give it some time. I'll go read kurumi's filter Kush and see what I can find.
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On December 03 2013 06:44 VisceraEyes wrote: MY problem with him isn't activity. He's certainly not being active, but that's not why I dislike him. I didn't like the post where he called out one-liner posts. Like, when a townie does that they're usually like, trying to read the thread and stuff. But when gtsrs did it he had nothing more to add - he had no reads to speak of and asked no questions of the people who were active. I wasn't convinced after reading that post that gtsrs was reading the thread at all - just bitching about people posting.
I agree VE. Does that make him scum and not just lazy town?
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On December 03 2013 06:45 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 06:44 VisceraEyes wrote: MY problem with him isn't activity. He's certainly not being active, but that's not why I dislike him. I didn't like the post where he called out one-liner posts. Like, when a townie does that they're usually like, trying to read the thread and stuff. But when gtsrs did it he had nothing more to add - he had no reads to speak of and asked no questions of the people who were active. I wasn't convinced after reading that post that gtsrs was reading the thread at all - just bitching about people posting. I agree VE. Does that make him scum and not just lazy town? It doesn't MAKE him scum, it makes him MORE LIKELY scum than lazy town. Like, I just would have expected SOMETHING more from a post where he's saying "Oh you're making the thread so hard to read" you know? It indicates that he's reading (or trying) but there's no evidence of it in any of his posts.
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On December 02 2013 19:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 05:28 jaybrundage wrote:On December 02 2013 01:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2013 01:13 jaybrundage wrote:On December 02 2013 00:50 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2013 00:47 jaybrundage wrote:On December 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote: You never answered the actual point jay - if you think I'm amazing scum, do you think I would have played how I have so far?
If so, why? Please justify yourself, because your previous post was just nonsense I dont have a great reason that you could be scum. That was my point of my post your a good scum player so its hard to make a case on you. I have thought you were town lots of times and found out later you were scum. Your difficult to read but my gut says scum. Have you even been in a game I've been mafia in? Yes Which? Your claim is that you have thought I was town "lots of times" and found out later I was mafia, but I can't remember playing with you. In short, I think you're bullshitting muchly. Using the mafia data base it was Hero Mini Mafia. I thought you were town the whole game and you turned out to be mafia. You played a very strong mafia you lead the town and misguided them very well. Kudos So "once" then, not "lots of times" That was a gross exaggeration, wasn't it, jay? Why did you grossly exaggerate? During the game I played with you I thought you were towns tons of times. Reads can change thru out the game. But you played scum very well and proceeded to trick everyone and win the game as scum. I thought i had played another game with you but i was wrong. Regardless my whole post was to say you play a very good scum and I if you play townie-like there is a still a very strong chance you can be scum. So im gonna FOS you like a sonovabitch.
Also you have me a scum read I read later on. Please Marv tell me why I would create a terrible case on you a townie vet. As mafia and draw my self into the spotlight. It wasn't even a case ffs. It was a gut read. You say Im bullshitting. But how is a gut read bullshitting it just is a feeling. If your not dead in a day or 2 your prolly mafia regardless of how your playing.
On December 02 2013 16:46 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 16:23 Mocsta wrote:On December 02 2013 16:18 Roffles wrote:On December 02 2013 16:02 Mocsta wrote:On December 02 2013 15:58 Roffles wrote:On December 02 2013 15:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Gtrsrs just didnt really post anything after day 1. I think its far more likely for scum to do that because they dont see anything instantly to contribute, he just bitched about not getting khazix If he's scum, what's to gain from posting really dumb shit instead of just staying quiet like half the players? Sir RofflesDo you have an opinion on someone <other> than gtrsrs? Jaybrundage screams red. Just complete wishwash nonsense from him. Inactivity for a while after trying to "unsuccessfully" instigate plans he never had any intentions of carrying out. Think MZ's red too. Don't have previous experience for me to draw information off, but his play seems super hostile for no apparent reason, especially when someone briefly mentions his name in passing as "could be scum". Doesn't make any sense to me why anyone would be so super defensive so quick. With gtrsrs you gave some insight into why you think his motives were townie. With Jay + MZ can you have detailed some actions you find odd/scummy. Can you please walk me through why the motives are pushing a scum agenda. As I've said before with Jay, I just find his overall posting mannerisms not fitting to that of a townie. Everything is "What do you think" instead of stating as a matter of fact. Yes, you can probably chalk it up to poor play, but it's also what scum does (they like to stir shit up). Throw in the fact that in the middle of being accused, he attempts to throw in random tangent posts to potentially deflect stuff off him. He then goes on and accuses marv for probably the most ridiculous reason of all (I've seen him play a good mafia, so we should kill him). Can you chalk that up to being bad? Because he does have games played before. Add on top of that some timely no posting (He's been pretty active last couple of days) that coincides with the release of roles, and to me you have someone that has a good chance of either being bad town or red. As for MZ, I just think he's red cause of how he was super aggressive/borderline hostile when his initial propositions against gtrsrs and geript turned back onto him. I just think he's trying to get gtrsrs lynched for being a bad townie player, buying scum an extra day. Fairly simple, I think gtrsrs is green and MZ's just trying to use him as lynch bait because gtrsrs's play has legit been pretty awful and borderline scummy, which is perfect for him to hide behind if he gets the traction and support of many.
Roffles I have never played with you. Your reasoning is shit because I don't play town how others would or optimally. I am unique or as some would say lynchbait. Oh no you say you shouldn't call your self lynchbait thats anti town. Well actually referring to my self as lynch bait is a null tell. I do it as scum or town. If you wanna make a case on me go read some of my games and understand my meta. Cause if you use simple basic guidelines for town, your gonna mislynch a townie.
My reasoning for going after Marv is because I played a good scum game and I'm very wary of him cause he won the game for his team. Would scum go after a Vet like Marv let alone my scum play. I basically lurk super hard as scum I wouldn't go after someone like Marv because that would draw unwanted attention. Regardless read my meta or drop the case, cause its shit.
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VE gimme some of your scum reads so I can go reread filters later tonite.
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@jonny why don't you dig into rean/austin/mocsta/mz and tell me what you think
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so marv and ve are light pushing gtr, right? brb I will look into him.
@JonnyLaw+ Show Spoiler + Hi I don't know exactly what I did to you but you are coming off as super angry with me, on a PERSONAL level. Like you don't like "my vibe" you said. I am really sorry if I have acted in a way that offended you. If you are more specific with what you don't like about me, I will try to change it.
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gtsrs, Mocsta (depending on what he chooses to do next - haven't liked what he's chosen to do so far), jsoniv all looking bad to me. Let me know what you rustle up.
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The case on gtrsrs is actually fairly weak until you introduce the meta aspect, when it strengthens markedly. Because otherwise yes, it is hard to distinguish between lazy town and mafia.
Seems weird you'd disregard that Jonny, especially as you are apparently familiar/have looked at kush's past games.
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