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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:06 GMT
#3741
IMO we should be lynching non-me lurkers. Coagulation comes to mind.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 06 2013 04:07 GMT
#3742
VE could you take a look at my Jonny case and his filter and tell me what you think?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:07 GMT
#3743
But then, Coagulation hardly leaves my mind so take that for what it's worth.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 06 2013 04:08 GMT
#3744
austinmcc's JonnyLaw thoughts:

His D0 discussion fine. Specifically, voting amumu because yorick has plenty of votes is slightly townie. I don't personally think amumu was super strong (it's conditional, right? you have to get actioned to get anti-votes?), but still a fine role to want to ban out, and noticing that the guy you were on is 100% banned so you're trying to push another ban is townie.

Continues to use his ban. Amumu not gonna be a ban, looks for new options, is compaining about rayn's posting while still reading it and digesting it. That feels mildy townie.

On December 01 2013 13:28 JonnyLaw wrote:
Warwick's not a strong first pick. + Show Spoiler +
At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player


This means we need to know which champion the player has successfully picked. Why pick trynd at all? Just so you know who has tryndamere? There's not a chance in hell I'm picking that champion. I plan to contribute to winning this game. Dealing damage to people above/below me does not help us win the game. I don't even understand.

Actually, I must say fuck your list. I disagree strongly with most of the conclusions. I think you're scum as is.
This also reads...I think townie? Sees bum's list. Is the FIRST to comment on bum's list. Has some specific reasons that show he's actually thinking --> warwick only strong with certain information, trynd doesn't help town win, etc. It's not the MOST townie minded thing, but I don't see Jonny being the FIRST response to bum's list and just blasting it. And it's not just one post, he continues the discussion. With decent reasoning.
On December 01 2013 15:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
Look at Ziggs/twitch/eve for guaranteed damage. Then there are defensive champs for scum who already know their teammates. Warwick and trynd are just garbage imo.

I like this post. Guaranteed damage good for scum. Defensive champs great because you know who you need to be protecting, can maybe stop called shots (might out yourself in doing so, etc., but it's a good thought I think). He is really fully articulating why he doesn't like bum's plan. I can see his thoughts. I think this is good.


Already, I think he's town. From what he's said and the way he's said it.


Comes back. Drops a few sorta reads. gtrsrs read is mush. Others are reads, if slightly vague on soniv.

Very focused on those 3 for a bit. Interacts with other people only about those three. But a decent amount of posting and reasoning on them.

Continues giving reads, or at least reading filters. Has clear rules that he's applying (soniv shrugging off accusations = town, whereas MZ super defensive).

Gives reads when asked, and then asks WHY those people. I like that.

LOLOLOLOL VOTES HIMSELF DUE TO FORMATTING. WHY IS EVERYONE SO MAD THIS GAME? SOMEONE ACCIDENTALLY SELF-VOTED AND SOMEONE CALLED EZ A GIRL. THIS IS A GOOD AND FUN GAME.

I don't love the vote. He's got suspects in kush certainly, and MZ slightly. But he's down to vote Bum. He responds to the question about people jumping on bum without hesitation. I don't ... I don't love his explanation there. Bum defended Jonny and then quit under pressure. Based on Jonny saying scumbum wasn't taking the easier lynch, i think he SHOULD find bum townie, or townieish.

Appears to have actually gone to look at Jaybrundage's past game in nomination. He doesn't need to do this. He's following up on things that are happening.


I don't love that he doesn't push HIS lynches. But I like how his reads come about, find him generally consistent, and very much like his D0 play. His vote is the only questionable thing. It's not enough to put him scum in my book.


Defense of soniv by saying gtrsrs's case is bad, doesn't mean soniv is town, but case is bad, reads funky at first glance. He was towny on soniv. Meh on gtr. I think he has legitimate points as to why he dislikes gtr's case, but he's not....I feel like he should be solidly on a soniv read here.



MY READ: HE IS TOWN

D0 LOOKS VERY TOWNIE. HAS REASONING BEHIND BANS, IS USING HIS VOTE FOR GOOD THINGS, IS DISCUSSING ACTUAL READS, ETC.

HIS READS LOOK GENUINE WHEN THEY COME FROM HIM. CONSISTENT RULES HE'S USING TO SEPARATE TOWN/SCUM.

HIS VOTE LOOKS MEH. DON'T LOVE. HIS RESPONSE TO GTRSRS CASE IS GOOD EXCEPT I THINK IT'S WONKY THAT HE'S NOT PUSHING SONIV TOWN STILL.


Fe fi fo fum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:08 GMT
#3745
Yes I will. Just not now. Right now I want to know what you think about just mercilessly decimating lurkers with the lynch. Less active than everyone? Hanged. What do you think?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 06 2013 04:08 GMT
#3746
On December 06 2013 13:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
IMO we should be lynching non-me lurkers. Coagulation comes to mind.

Yes, Coag deserves to be shot/lynched/mod killed.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
December 06 2013 04:09 GMT
#3747
VE, per the lurker comment... why not wait until the night... How much KP does your Cannon do? After we get alignment checks if you can clear a field of lurkers do so. That comment is subject to change depending on how your ability actually works. Like do you have any choice or is it just a line (in a row.) of hit targets? The amount of lurkers in this game is just retarded and I wish these replacements went into lurkers instead of people that were active. Didn't work out that way though. The town needs a way to deal with half the freaking population being lurky as fuck though.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:09 GMT
#3748
On December 06 2013 13:04 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Mocsta,

What gives you the impression he is going to push his vote at all?
Also, what per his day actions gives him any ability to help lead a scum agenda with his team if he is scum?
The only thing I get for it is a easy out later if Austin flips town. (Not convinced of at this point but need to finished filter... Dang I should probably completely ignore the thread and do that but meh. {This is townie Odin saying he don't give a rats if it takes him 10 hours to do huehue [But seriously I will have some reads out tonight pls no lynch until I do]}

Thats the point.

If he is Rean is scum bussing scum austin -- SURELY, he would be making a bigger HOO-HAA about it to lap up the town cred.

If Rean is scum faking a read on town austin -- I would have thought Austin is considered a threat and more KP would be on him. Its very disjointed to only have the 50KP, no? Clearly this is conjecture, but it makes sense to me.

If Rean is town, I can see this set of actions making sense.



Like, Im not saying Rean is town. Im just saying that this set of actions reads like a town play to me.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:10 GMT
#3749
Not enough. The only reliable means of removing people like that is the lynch.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:10 GMT
#3750
If we remove lurkers, THEN we start lynching active people.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:12 GMT
#3751
Like, remove what you think about me and my alignment from the equation and just tell me what you think about the numbers. We saw what ONE active KP last night MAYBE? MAYBE two? So scum have to use powers on active people if they want lurk the game away.

Most everyone talking just seems town to me and it sucks that we have so many people that aren't saying anything
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:12 GMT
#3752
Roffles. That dude who didn't even post D1 - just voted all day. UGH
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 06 2013 04:13 GMT
#3753
What all lurkers are you suggesting being put up? Coag, Roffles, who else?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:13 GMT
#3754
JayBrundage. Like, he made that case on me. Whatever you think about it, good, bad, it's WRONG, so factor that in. His only contribution is a case on a townie lurker. Like. *shrug*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:14 GMT
#3755
On December 06 2013 13:08 austinmcc wrote:
austinmcc's JonnyLaw thoughts:

+ Show Spoiler [Alert ! Bullshit] +
His D0 discussion fine. Specifically, voting amumu because yorick has plenty of votes is slightly townie. I don't personally think amumu was super strong (it's conditional, right? you have to get actioned to get anti-votes?), but still a fine role to want to ban out, and noticing that the guy you were on is 100% banned so you're trying to push another ban is townie.

Continues to use his ban. Amumu not gonna be a ban, looks for new options, is compaining about rayn's posting while still reading it and digesting it. That feels mildy townie.

On December 01 2013 13:28 JonnyLaw wrote:
Warwick's not a strong first pick. + Show Spoiler +
At night, you may submit the name and champion name of a player


This means we need to know which champion the player has successfully picked. Why pick trynd at all? Just so you know who has tryndamere? There's not a chance in hell I'm picking that champion. I plan to contribute to winning this game. Dealing damage to people above/below me does not help us win the game. I don't even understand.

Actually, I must say fuck your list. I disagree strongly with most of the conclusions. I think you're scum as is.
This also reads...I think townie? Sees bum's list. Is the FIRST to comment on bum's list. Has some specific reasons that show he's actually thinking --> warwick only strong with certain information, trynd doesn't help town win, etc. It's not the MOST townie minded thing, but I don't see Jonny being the FIRST response to bum's list and just blasting it. And it's not just one post, he continues the discussion. With decent reasoning.
On December 01 2013 15:10 JonnyLaw wrote:
Look at Ziggs/twitch/eve for guaranteed damage. Then there are defensive champs for scum who already know their teammates. Warwick and trynd are just garbage imo.

I like this post. Guaranteed damage good for scum. Defensive champs great because you know who you need to be protecting, can maybe stop called shots (might out yourself in doing so, etc., but it's a good thought I think). He is really fully articulating why he doesn't like bum's plan. I can see his thoughts. I think this is good.


Already, I think he's town. From what he's said and the way he's said it.


Comes back. Drops a few sorta reads. gtrsrs read is mush. Others are reads, if slightly vague on soniv.

Very focused on those 3 for a bit. Interacts with other people only about those three. But a decent amount of posting and reasoning on them.

Continues giving reads, or at least reading filters. Has clear rules that he's applying (soniv shrugging off accusations = town, whereas MZ super defensive).

Gives reads when asked, and then asks WHY those people. I like that.

LOLOLOLOL VOTES HIMSELF DUE TO FORMATTING. WHY IS EVERYONE SO MAD THIS GAME? SOMEONE ACCIDENTALLY SELF-VOTED AND SOMEONE CALLED EZ A GIRL. THIS IS A GOOD AND FUN GAME.

I don't love the vote. He's got suspects in kush certainly, and MZ slightly. But he's down to vote Bum. He responds to the question about people jumping on bum without hesitation. I don't ... I don't love his explanation there. Bum defended Jonny and then quit under pressure. Based on Jonny saying scumbum wasn't taking the easier lynch, i think he SHOULD find bum townie, or townieish.

Appears to have actually gone to look at Jaybrundage's past game in nomination. He doesn't need to do this. He's following up on things that are happening.


I don't love that he doesn't push HIS lynches. But I like how his reads come about, find him generally consistent, and very much like his D0 play. His vote is the only questionable thing. It's not enough to put him scum in my book.


Defense of soniv by saying gtrsrs's case is bad, doesn't mean soniv is town, but case is bad, reads funky at first glance. He was towny on soniv. Meh on gtr. I think he has legitimate points as to why he dislikes gtr's case, but he's not....I feel like he should be solidly on a soniv read here.



MY READ: HE IS TOWN

D0 LOOKS VERY TOWNIE. HAS REASONING BEHIND BANS, IS USING HIS VOTE FOR GOOD THINGS, IS DISCUSSING ACTUAL READS, ETC.

HIS READS LOOK GENUINE WHEN THEY COME FROM HIM. CONSISTENT RULES HE'S USING TO SEPARATE TOWN/SCUM.

HIS VOTE LOOKS MEH. DON'T LOVE. HIS RESPONSE TO GTRSRS CASE IS GOOD EXCEPT I THINK IT'S WONKY THAT HE'S NOT PUSHING SONIV TOWN STILL.
This spiel was enough to keep my vote rigth where it is.

Austin / JL scum team together.

His reasoning for Jl being town is based on his D0 appraoch which is all SETUP SPECULATION on LoL THEME... ITS HARDLY ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE !!!

AUSTIN ADMITS JL VOTES ARE "MEH" BUT IS WILLING TO BRUSH IT OFF.

THIS READS LIKE HIS EXACT APPROACH ON MZ.

LYNCH AUSTIN.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:15 GMT
#3756
I'm not even talking about people I want to put up right now - I'm just giving examples of people who make the game SOOOO hard.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
December 06 2013 04:15 GMT
#3757
On December 06 2013 13:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, remove what you think about me and my alignment from the equation and just tell me what you think about the numbers. We saw what ONE active KP last night MAYBE? MAYBE two? So scum have to use powers on active people if they want lurk the game away.

Most everyone talking just seems town to me and it sucks that we have so many people that aren't saying anything
As long as you arent talking about JL/Austin then yes to the fisrt part.

As for the second, completely. 24 hrs to lynch and 2/3 of the thread hasnt voted.

Scary times when lurkers rule the thread.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:16 GMT
#3758
I'm saying what do you think of the IDEA? It's not a bad one right? Like, tell me if you think lynching lurkers is a bad plan.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 06 2013 04:16 GMT
#3759
On December 06 2013 13:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Most everyone talking just seems town to me and it sucks that we have so many people that aren't saying anything

I'm not totally sure on this but I'm ok enough most of the active posters that I like this plan. Also, premature I'm sorry to Oats, you made a post that I think would be really hard for you to make as scum (re people getting snippy back at you).
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 06 2013 04:16 GMT
#3760
Austin is mostly a lurker to me - he's been gone most of the cycle and now he's posting complete gibberish.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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