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geript
10024 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm saying what do you think of the IDEA? It's not a bad one right? Like, tell me if you think lynching lurkers is a bad plan. You know me. Me and wave love lurker lynches. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not OK with lynched lurkers based on being lurkers.I'm saying what do you think of the IDEA? It's not a bad one right? Like, tell me if you think lynching lurkers is a bad plan. For me its more OK, because out of the contributors I see them as pretty much town. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Lol now I have to reread after you and koshi talking about him looking town at first glance. Agree that prome's calling out of that one post is solid. I'm torn because I just lynched town rayn in a game for...similarish reasons. He CAN dominate a thread with a lot of posts and it feels like it's not helping. He can play anti-town, as seen by others, when he's town, just because he'll be ... overactive at points? But I assume Jonny doesn't know rayn well and wouldn't have this mindset, so it's points for Prome and points for scum Jonny. He DOES have a problem calling people 10000% scum. He DOES have a problem putting conviction behind what he presents as his own scumreads (he arrived at kush, maybeish gtrsrs, maybeish MZ). I disagree with you on his D0 discussion. His poo poo of an urgot ban b/c damage, but ww bad because twitch/eve/ziggs guaranteed damage does not fit. Does not fit at all. But the way he's contributing and arguing looks townie to me. Gut still says town. For all the shitposting you accuse him of, a lot of it is VERY in your face/cursey/confrontative. I don't know that I see scum making enemies so hard. And I think his D0 looks townier than you do. I don't think he's the first to respond to bum's plan, call it bad, point out reasons it's bad, continue to discuss why he dislikes it, if he's mafia. I would like to see him be...firmer in his scumreads. And willing to push them. But for now, I'm townie on him. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
I expect austin to pull some sick shit regardless of alignment. We may get to lynch a lurker this cycle. ^^ | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
That's so bad and it's completely ruining the town. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
mig is scum austin is cum those are the power players on the scumteam. probably have a couple afkers/semiafkers on there as well. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Yo.Austin is mostly a lurker to me - he's been gone most of the cycle and now he's posting complete gibberish. Agree/disagree that MZ saying Koshi isn't going to be lynched, but spending a bunch of posts poking at him and halfway calling him scummyish is funky? Agree/disagree that rean's posts D0 aren't so much discussion as they are "Anti-town champs are anti-town." Agree/disagree that you shouldn't lynch me D2. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
No you're wrong. How many times has this been implied? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:21 austinmcc wrote: Yo. Agree/disagree that MZ saying Koshi isn't going to be lynched, but spending a bunch of posts poking at him and halfway calling him scummyish is funky? Agree/disagree that rean's posts D0 aren't so much discussion as they are "Anti-town champs are anti-town." Agree/disagree that you shouldn't lynch me D2. Agree. Subjective. Meeeehhhhhhhhhh.... | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:20 kushm4sta wrote: ve is scum mig is scum austin is cum those are the power players on the scumteam. probably have a couple afkers/semiafkers on there as well. Did you misfire? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Since you asked.Well let's lynch austin unless he pulls some sick shit and then get to work on killing lurkers. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VxZaifFl.jpg) | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Do you even think he's a target? Short of lynching the guy he's not going to die. Also I might add that 24 hours (roughly) into D1 he still hasn't added much imo.... he's getting a completely free write off to do nothing. So I'm not even saying your wrong. Just that short of lynching him he's going to to squat. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:22 OdinOfPergo wrote: ?@Austin, No you're wrong. How many times has this been implied? Wrong on what? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On December 06 2013 12:29 OdinOfPergo wrote: Also, here you guys go, my response to Onegu's case. #1) Who other than basically solely Rayn scum hunted Day 0? This statement is calling me scum for doing the same thing 30/31 players are doing. Do you honestly me expect me to be able to find scum based on 90% of the post during this phase concerning someone specific knowledge on Lol? #2) Your first quote about my LSB vote. Mmk, and if you read my meta... out of every single mafia game I've been in, regardless of alignment, I'm hard pressed for time. How does this make me scum? #3) You skip the rest of my post here. The fact I don't hard push for a different read I acknowledge as being questionable. I also gave a reason in the thread to as why I wasn't doing it. Yes, per Bum's filter I found him as possible scum. I mention that as I had re-read it I was skeptical that he was confirmed scum. So what's wrong with me putting my vote on the only counter wagon that I could get behind at the time? Also was it not obvious that Bum (With like 12-13 votes and LSB, the runner up, was not gaining anyvotes per Sandro's arguement) was going to indeed go through D1? Read my filter. You obviously glanced over it, why are you omitting so much? #4) How was my Kush case bad? Do people honestly believe that? I thought my train of thought was pretty obvious. The only reason I gave it up without a hard push was because my town reads at the time told me to drop it. The main reasoning for dropping it was meta related iirc. What is wrong with me trying to get Kush games to meta read off of? I mention I didn't have time THAT NIGHT to read them. .. . ... Re previous comment that is in this post. Your extra observations. #1) I didn't want to ban talon. K, so you're saying every game that has a scum God-father in it is a insta town loss? I don't believe you at all. I banned my priority bans. Talon wasn't one of them. So what? #2) What's wrong with me adjusting my stance when I think about something? What's wrong with me changing my read on the subject per more than 3/4'th of the thread hasn't actually gone into this plan yet. I say exactly what I meant there. I'm not disagreeing with the plan, just saying unless people get onboard the only thing it is accomplishing is outing roles for mafia to target. This makes me scum.... how? You're next post after that is verifying my point I just made. These post are a train of thought but you're trying to break them up. I don't understand why you are doing it. The fact I was just shooting my thoughts into the thread when they popped into my mind, and you are trying to twist it into a scum read is mind boggling. Your last quote against me. I'm scum for posting a update on my feelings on a player at the time makes me scum? Over-all you're entire case I feel is a bunch of WIFOM and just trying to frame me to look bad. Point one wasnt that big of a deal, yes most people didnt scum hunt. But up until your vote on kush all of your reads are very wishy washy with no firm stances. 2. Ok you are hard pressed for time, but the fact is you made a case on LSB where you said you could write much more. But until the rime you unvoted you didnt mention LSB except when it related to roffles interaction with him and only in passing. Never pushed a LSB lynch to the thread. And then you jump off of him because his wagon wasnt going to go through. 3. Please quote what I omitted, I quoted everything relevant to LSB and BUM from the point you put your vote on jay to the lynch. I didmt leave anything out and you saying I did is completely false. 4. One you made a case that points to lazy not scum. And its the fact again that you never followed up. You completely drop it, when you later mention your scum reads kush isnt one of them. 5. The talon thing obviously wasnt a big deal. It was the fact that you thought godfathers are found out anyway as your basis for not banning him. And how do you get me saying whenever scum gets a godfather town auto lose. In no way did I say that, you said they are always found and thats why we shouldnt ban talon. Im saying sometimes they are found sometimes they arent, so not banning him bassed on that is wierd. 6. ok this point I misread a bit. I drop this part. I thought you didnt want to do it at all when before you did wamt to do it. My bad. This and only this point conceded. 7. My point is you never have stong feelings on anyone at that point, and you vote someone you dont have strong feelings for. I dont understand how you think its all wifom and I am trying to frame you. Or how you say I omitted things, I didnt and welcome you to quote what you think I did. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On December 06 2013 13:25 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm thankin marv was scum. Like I didn't wanna say it when he was in the game but he's not now and I think his slot is probably scum. Disqus. I find that unlikely. LIke me his interest in the game started slow, but once you start playing you get into it and lift the activity levels. I find that to be pretty townie. Im pretty sure in ?desert? he was scum, was bored at the start and kept that way. I suppose the only two sticklers are: (1) Scum didnt shoot him (at least Fuba hasnt mentioned any health dmg) (2) Fuba AFK Mind you with (2), Fuba is a lurker either alignment. Im willing to roll with town to be honest. Definitely not worth considering over the next couple lynches for sure. | ||
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