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On November 22 2013 04:32 thrawn2112 wrote: The thread is stuck in a loop. Anytime someone talks to rayn or talks about lynching him, he insults them or calls them scum. His favorite tactic so far has been saying what reads people should be making and ends it by "and if they don't agree they're scum" He is getting lynched. There is little reasoning for any of his thoughts or reads, and most of the reasoning is accompanied by insults that distract you and make you think his posts sound more intelligent than they are. He is trying to make his filter worthless to town after he flips red. With a completely clear head. This is a great post actually. Thrawn is back in the good books. | ||
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His interpretation of Bereft makes me think Bereft is scum "alls out mocsta for troll posts, first to do so. Rean vote is ok, reasons arent great, better reasons other people are voteing him but meh Makes a unreadable post with one of his scum reads then votes him after. Also doesnt read my post clearly thinking its a cora case, even though he claims to have read my filter. His reads are ok. thoughts on why rayn is scum but dont agree. Also rayn useing bullshit alot isnt alignment indicative for him " Thats pretty much exactly how scum want to play. Onegu is filling gaps and making an interpretation because Bereft is being unclear/ writing shitty cases. The worst thing is that he thought onegu case on me, was a case on corazon. If he genuinely read onegu filter to give out a town read, then this should *not* have occured as a case is one of the best ways to divine someones alignment. | ||
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On November 22 2013 09:12 thrawn2112 wrote: Why Mocsta why....... I just now decided to explore the possibilty that rayn is town and you go ahead and reconfirm my earlier doubts about him! poop No, i didnt say I have a set feeling on whether rayn is town/scum. Last night I was trying to figure out if a town rayn would blow his lid like he did. I posed a musing about motive, which I had hope rayn would reply to (not sure yet). I agered with the point that a rayn lynch will improve town atmosphere, as he is blowing people off very unreasonably. If what onegu says is true about bereft I would seriously jump to that lynch THIS CYCLE. | ||
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On November 22 2013 05:55 JarJarDrinks wrote: I disagree.I think you're scum because of your hard-defending of Rean. I can't see a town motive for you to go apeshit about how we're mislynching him. You just can't be that sure about someone that you thought was scum @ one point. I think he's your scumbuddy and you're doing everything you can to keep him out of the noose. If rayn was town *AND* was certain Rean was town, he would act like this. My problem is, I cant follow how Rayn suddenly went from querying every punctuation of Rean to giving him town love. | ||
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On November 22 2013 09:18 Bereft wrote: mocsta, are you serious? Yes (if its true) Im still catching up on the thread so do not know whether onegu is stating fact, or interpretation. Either way, if it is interpretation I don't think it was malicious, | ||
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On November 22 2013 07:13 Aquanim wrote: Lol no. I want to lynch Rayn because I don't believe he plays this way as town. Rayn tunnels, it's what he does. Do you seriously believe this sequence of events from a town Rayn: - Rayn wants to lynch Bereft/Onegu - A bunch of votes materialises in Rayn - Rayn's now willing to lynch Jampidampi My impresssion from my quick read of what's happened since I went to sleep is that this trend is continuing: Rayn doesn't give a damn who we lynch today as long as it's not Rean. I think this is a fair synopses. | ||
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On November 22 2013 08:12 Bereft wrote: do you need it spelled out for you? why do you care so much about potentially mislynching Rean, but you don't have ANY qualms about lynching anyone else in the game? you DO realize it's not 2 town vs. 10 mafia, right? who's your strongest town read after Rean? Onegu? and how about after that? also, it's pretty obvious so I don't know why it begs repeating, but it's the job of every responsible townie to not throw away their vote and get a majority lynch on a scum read right now. scib, I'm looking at you. This is a really good post at a good time interval. The second part is prototypical town agenda, i suppose null. But the top part is good. Whilst others have conveyed rayn is voting every dog, cat and horse. This was a really effective way to communicate the message. its not 2 town vs 10 mafia indeed. | ||
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On November 22 2013 09:27 Bereft wrote: I don't think anyone did, its was a total cluster hahahin my post where i wrote why i think onegu is town, i've explicitly stated that i've no idea towards the end of his massive stream of consciousness post what he's trying to say: | ||
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On November 22 2013 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: This reaction to the Bereft post i said above is quite odd and is typical of how rayn has played since decidinghe didnt want rean lynched.WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE ABOUT MY TOWNREADS? WHAT'S THIS POST ABOUT? I just made a post on my top lynch target, and you ask me about fucking townreads. Well here you go. Onegu is town Rean is town Lonemeow/Holyflare is town Jampidampi is town Corazon is town sciberbia is most likely town Aquanim is most likely town there. | ||
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On November 22 2013 08:22 Aquanim wrote: This is a good post too. Even if rayn was town, there is no reason for aqua to articulate himself like this as rayn is ripe for the picking.Sure you made some shitty fabricated case, whatever. I could make cases all day on just about anyone if I tried, and if I wanted to. What I don't buy is that your suspicions of JJD appeared so quickly and erased your suspicions of Jampidampi/Onegu/me/whoever the hell else you've wanted to lynch apart from Mocsta and Bereft. The mere fact that you're shifting between lynches so quickly means you aren't serious about trying to get your scumread lynched. And like I said, town Rayn tunnels, he doesn't jump from lynch to lynch to lynch like this. As for those scumslips. The Mocsta one isn't a scumslip at all, asking "Have you been mislynched before?" doesn't mean in any way that he thinks you're a mislynch today. The Bereft one is better, but there's no way I'm lynching someone based on something which is almost certainly a typo whatever his alignment. The jjd case was possibly the biggest pile of crap I have read in this game. | ||
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On November 22 2013 08:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is teh second time Rayn has done an appeal to me. I dont like it.All he does is shit on me. And in the same sentence he tell people to not talk about me  If you are town i can guarantee thrawn is scum. But, plz, we need to lynch JJD. Mocsta, you know me, i do dumb (looking) stuff as town. But i have reasons for it. I have given my reasons. All these people i have never played before do not understand it. Look at Jampidampi, look at Onegu. They know my shit. They are not votingfor me. Why? They know what i do is not scumlike. Fuck jampidampi's behavior when i went "batshit crazy" on him was so 100% town. He knows NWM. He knows me and thinks critically. Apparenty you at least attempted to do so. haha. For a second think about it. If you can't understand it then okay, i fucked up. Then you vote for me. That's not the end of the world and i still have my reads to offer. But JJD - i tell you - he is scum. He is so very scum i suggest you read my case on him. He claims this is typical behaviour.. yet, my expectation of a town rayn is that he would go out of his way to prove this behavior is typical i.e. reinforce his position with quote after quote after quote. RAYN IS THE BEST LYNCH FOR TODAY | ||
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On November 22 2013 08:32 Holyflare wrote: Jesus christ, I'm about half way now and half of you are making full blown cases on people based on page 1 posts, this is shambolic and ridiculous. This is a bad post, especially tied in with LoneMeows posts. There is no intent here other than to discredit this town. Does HF say we are scummy for this? No, its just an observation that is shit-slinging. | ||
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I refuse you believe you guys are not present for this lynch? We need to make this rayn lynch happen. A no-lynch puts us in a terrible situation as we will just repeat this again D2 (minus a townie due to NK) Holyflare You are confirmed present and may be our only chance to reach a majority vote. I know you haven't read the game, but we are one vote off majority. I *IMPLORE* you to vote Rayn. P.S. there is 15min till deadline. This *is* urgent. | ||
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On November 22 2013 09:43 sciberbia wrote: There is 2 hours until deadline Moc. I will vote rayn only to avoid a no-lynch. Respond to my last post. Ohh shit.. i was gettign confused with mafia lx awesome, thanks man I was starting to panic. | ||
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On November 22 2013 09:42 sciberbia wrote: Take this as scummy if you want to but, if rayn is town I don't see him dropping this behaviour. Hes impeding anyone from having meaningful discourse as he just interrupts and calls you scum and tries to take a dump on your front lawn as soon as your arrive at the driveway after a 12hr shift.I don't want to lynch rayn at all. Anyone that has played with rayn before should know he does batshit crazy stuff, tunnels people, and has ridiculous convinction in his reads. He normally gets his shit together by D2 or D3 and if he's still doing this at that time then I'd lynch him without blinking an eye. But nothing I've seen from him this game isn't possible from town rayn, and in fact there is good reason to believe he's town. I'm not fully caught up, but just look at the thread atmosphere when rayn 'martyrs' himself and starts causing a ruckus. The majority of the votes were on Rean and Aquanim, and rayn wasn't even in the conversation of lynch candidates. Rayn's not a noob. He doesn't play to lose. He had to know that what he was saying was going to be unpopular. It doesn't make any sense as scum for him to make a bunch of bold assertions, vote himself, and generally just draw negative attention. The only way this makes ANY sense at all is if Rean is also scum, but even then it wouldn't help for rayn to get himself lynched. I don't really see it. I myself have also been struggling with motive for rayns actions. is he really that butthurt? if so, I would have expected he cool down by now, but instead he is getting progressively worse. Like i said last night, what is the trigger for this? Rayn was in my town reads the 24hrs ago - and was made aware of that. Thrawn pulls out an oddity on rayn and then we disagree on some post interpretations and he starts going batshit crazy eventuating to a martyr. The build up almost seems forced to me? My main issue is that I have identified *several* times that I can not follow how Rayn jumps from Rean is scum to Rean is town. he has made zero effort to fill in this gap Onegu is still the best lynch.. Onegu's only contribution since last night is a giant readdddz post where he votes Mocsta, and seems to content to be ignored, and hasn't posted since. Onegu does not seem to care about who gets lynched, and he's avoided discussing it with the town. @everyone in the thread right now explain the scum motivation for rayn throwing a bunch of shit and even voting himself just as it looked like Rean was going to be lynched. Also, explain ANYTHING you have seen in Onegu's play that makes you think he is town.[/QUOTE]I thought Onegu massive list post read alright (but I haven't double checked the facts) Now that we have 2 hrs, Im going to priortise cross-referencing his reads on Bereft. If they are bullshit, Onegu to me comes out looking pretty bad. The key difference for you guys is about this majority vote. Whilst you disagre with rayn (like onegu) you acknowledge a lynch is required today. Onegu on the other hand has not acknowledged this -- which gravely concerns me. I shouldnt have to appeal to him. | ||
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On November 22 2013 09:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: GTFOscib and thrawn: i am banking the game on you now. read my posts. please read my posts. please please please. if i am wrong on this you can laugh at me all day long but in mocsta,bereft,JJD there are at least 2 scum. 100% rayn guarantee. | ||
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On November 22 2013 09:42 sciberbia wrote: Take this as scummy if you want to but, if rayn is town I don't see him dropping this behaviour. Hes impeding anyone from having meaningful discourse as he just interrupts and calls you scum and tries to take a dump on your front lawn as soon as your arrive at the driveway after a 12hr shift.I don't want to lynch rayn at all. Anyone that has played with rayn before should know he does batshit crazy stuff, tunnels people, and has ridiculous convinction in his reads. He normally gets his shit together by D2 or D3 and if he's still doing this at that time then I'd lynch him without blinking an eye. But nothing I've seen from him this game isn't possible from town rayn, and in fact there is good reason to believe he's town. I'm not fully caught up, but just look at the thread atmosphere when rayn 'martyrs' himself and starts causing a ruckus. The majority of the votes were on Rean and Aquanim, and rayn wasn't even in the conversation of lynch candidates. Rayn's not a noob. He doesn't play to lose. He had to know that what he was saying was going to be unpopular. It doesn't make any sense as scum for him to make a bunch of bold assertions, vote himself, and generally just draw negative attention. The only way this makes ANY sense at all is if Rean is also scum, but even then it wouldn't help for rayn to get himself lynched. I don't really see it. I myself have also been struggling with motive for rayns actions. is he really that butthurt? if so, I would have expected he cool down by now, but instead he is getting progressively worse. Like i said last night, what is the trigger for this? Rayn was in my town reads the 24hrs ago - and was made aware of that. Thrawn pulls out an oddity on rayn and then we disagree on some post interpretations and he starts going batshit crazy eventuating to a martyr. The build up almost seems forced to me? My main issue is that I have identified *several* times that I can not follow how Rayn jumps from Rean is scum to Rean is town. he has made zero effort to fill in this gap Onegu is still the best lynch.. Onegu's only contribution since last night is a giant readdddz post where he votes Mocsta, and seems to content to be ignored, and hasn't posted since. I thought Onegu massive list post read alright (but I haven't double checked the facts)[/quote]Onegu does not seem to care about who gets lynched, and he's avoided discussing it with the town. @everyone in the thread right now explain the scum motivation for rayn throwing a bunch of shit and even voting himself just as it looked like Rean was going to be lynched. Also, explain ANYTHING you have seen in Onegu's play that makes you think he is town. Now that we have 2 hrs, Im going to priortise cross-referencing his reads on Bereft. If they are bullshit, Onegu to me comes out looking pretty bad. The key difference for you guys is about this majority vote. Whilst you disagre with rayn (like onegu) you acknowledge a lynch is required today. Onegu on the other hand has not acknowledged this -- which gravely concerns me. I shouldnt have to appeal to him. | ||
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On November 22 2013 09:53 Aquanim wrote: Big doesn't mean good. I didn't see a single one of your points that was actually substantitated by the quotes you supplied. Trust me when I say this. I'm finding Rayns cases townies - yes, he is that good My issue is not the cases, but the lack of anchorage which all started from the flipflop on rean. | ||
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