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On November 24 2013 12:35 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 24 2013 12:06 JarJarDrinks wrote:On November 24 2013 12:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
you insist on outing every single roll citation needed Making an issue over obvious sarcasm is scummy. Uh no. It's not sarcasm because you said the same thing in your "case" against me? Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 11:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
-jarjar... don't like his posts, and haven't liked them for awhile now ever since I read what rayn said about him. i don't like his focus on cora or how he goes about it and I don't like how much he likes talking about hf's claim. i dont like how he thinks getting hf to post flavor is alignment indicative (almost all hosts provide fake claims) and I don't like that he asked other people to claim to try and confirm hf's story. scum So were you being sarcastinc there too? If not, please explain why you lied.
The top one is obviously sarcasm and I do not believe that the sarcasm could be lost on you. The bottom one is a "lie" but only in the sense that "other people" was poor word choice on my part... remember that that spoiler is my stream consciousness reads.. it's me posting thoughts into the thread without bothering to reread or fact check any of it. It's not an optimal way to make cases but it is an optimal way of telling everyone exactly what my state of mind is like. It's not a "lie" that tells you anything about my alignment nor does it discredit my assertion that you are asking for role information when there is no reason to do so.
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On November 24 2013 12:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 23 2013 00:15 JarJarDrinks wrote:
The fact that you think that rayn was completly wrong w/ all of his reads and gave me AND bereft townreads after the flip is suspicious to me. townie "the thing you did is suspicious" scummy "the thing you did is suspicious to me" Reason? It's forced and fake. "Is suspicious" is more aggressive/confrontational, or townie. When you say something "is suspicious" you are saying that something is suspicious. You are trying to make a point to everyone else in the thread that X person is scummy for X reasons. When you say something "is suspicious to me" you are allowing that maybe it's not that suspicious, but it is to you. It's also forced and fake because it's too many words. When you want to say something there is a natural way of saying it, and natural ways of saying things have a lower word-count than ways of saying things thought up by somebody who is lying. This can't be a real case right? This is more sarcasm I assume?
No that's legit. That guy was mafia. When people use more words than needed to say something as simple as "I think this is scummy" and turn it into "My read is that this is scummy in my opinion" it strongly suggests that their posts and thoughts are unnatural, or faked.
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Oddly enough mocsta that vote makes me feel uneasy about you. I'd like you to explain who your main scumreads are and why, and who is the scummiest out of all of them and why.
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On November 24 2013 13:57 Aquanim wrote:
EBWOP: The only thing stopping me from lynching Holy right now is that doctor claim.
same here
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JJD hasn't done anything. Lately he's thrown dirt on Cora, Mocsta, and spent a lot of time talking about HF's claim which would be an easy thing for scum to talk about. He's not talking to people trying to convince them of his reads, and as Mocsta pointed out his delurk timing to defend himself after I randomly voted him doesn't look good. Combine that with what someone just pointed out about his actions leading up the lynch and I think there's a pretty obvious pattern suggesting that he doesn't actually care about discussion or helping town trying to figure out who to lynch.
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eh idk what to do ##unvote because I hate having my vote down when i'm undecided
jampi/rean both afk, if one or both are town it makes it that much harder to get a majority on scum. if both are town and neither of them vote then town only has 6 votes and we need 6 votes to reach majority... doesn't look good
hf is making no efforts to find scum but still finds time to defend his doc claim and insult people?
I dont remember ever disagreeing with anything that's been pointed out about onegu recently
my possible lynch targets are therefore JJD, HF, and Onegu.
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On November 25 2013 03:04 Bereft wrote:
i would agree with sixty percent odds. there is something that i would like to know. does chezinu write hidden messages only? will he really vote scib?
Talking about how or why chezinu plays or might be town can only decrease his effectiveness if he is indeed town. On the other side of the coin if I think he's scum I'd rather him not know this until it's too late for him to adjust his play accordingly. I'm content to just watch and see how often I can figure out what he's getting at.
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Hi Corazon.
Chezinu! Look into my eyes.. what do you see? What lies beyond them, and what are they reflecting?
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On November 25 2013 07:17 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 07:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hi Corazon.
Chezinu! Look into my eyes.. what do you see? What lies beyond them, and what are they reflecting? Do you plan on buddying everyone in this game?
that was not buddying that is me trying to read him. don't interrupt conversations
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Cor the only reason I haven't joined your Onegu wagon is because I don't have any confidence that I can pick him out when he's scum. I just now read his case and it didn't make me feel anything at all about his alignment. The same goes for the rest of his filter. I don't know if it's language barrier or what, but I am never confident reading him no matter if I think he's town or scum. I honestly don't know how to make that call and if I end up voting him, it will mostly be a process of elimination and consolidation vote.
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I'm going to stand by my game long stance that Mocsta is super town. I think his personality causes his posts to look suspicious, like he's at least as concerned with coming off as intelligent or funny as he is with playing the game and that makes his posts look more suspicious than they should.
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On November 25 2013 07:27 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 07:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
Cor the only reason I haven't joined your Onegu wagon is because I don't have any confidence that I can pick him out when he's scum. I just now read his case and it didn't make me feel anything at all about his alignment. The same goes for the rest of his filter. I don't know if it's language barrier or what, but I am never confident reading him no matter if I think he's town or scum. I honestly don't know how to make that call and if I end up voting him, it will mostly be a process of elimination and consolidation vote. I told you to have more of a thread presence today and you've failed to do that. It's detrimental to town.
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Stop talking to me unless you're wanting to converse about reads or unless you decide I'm scum and want to figure it out. Yesterday I hadplanned on moving the thread along but I kept coming back in and seeing you throwing a fit and voting anyone who got on your nerves. You were acting like rayn did, trying to take complete control over the thread and telling everyone what they can and can't talk about. I went with the "if you don't have anything nice to say" idea so I ignored this game until you calmed down.
On November 25 2013 07:27 Bereft wrote:
alright guys let's get our shit together. if you guys can't rally behind a mocsta or HF lynch, I think we should lynch chezinu if he doesn't come back into the thread with something useful. I'm not keen to lynch JJD or onegu over chezinu right now.
Why do you want to lynch Chezinu? Do you think he will flip red? Ignore consolidation and everything... who do you want to lynch?
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read this
+ Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 12:06 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 12:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
you insist on outing every single roll citation needed On November 24 2013 12:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 12:05 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote: JarJarDrinks
I might can do the Onegu thing but I need to reaffirm my position on him. I am much more confident about JarJar for the reasons I posted in the "notes" spoiler and what I said in my last quote. Are you Fn kidding me? + Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 11:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
-jarjar... don't like his posts, and haven't liked them for awhile now ever since I read what rayn said about him. i don't like his focus on cora or how he goes about it and I don't like how much he likes talking about hf's claim. i dont like how he thinks getting hf to post flavor is alignment indicative (almost all hosts provide fake claims) and I don't like that he asked other people to claim to try and confirm hf's story. scum THAT'S your case? You don't like my posts? Well way to make a case that I couldn't possibly defend myself against. What don't you like about my posts. Why is it scummy to focus on cora? Why is it scummy to ask for flavor? This is the most vague bullshit case I've seen. The only thing you posted that is actually scummy is a complete lie. On November 24 2013 12:35 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 24 2013 12:06 JarJarDrinks wrote:On November 24 2013 12:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
you insist on outing every single roll citation needed Making an issue over obvious sarcasm is scummy. Uh no. It's not sarcasm because you said the same thing in your "case" against me? Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 11:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
-jarjar... don't like his posts, and haven't liked them for awhile now ever since I read what rayn said about him. i don't like his focus on cora or how he goes about it and I don't like how much he likes talking about hf's claim. i dont like how he thinks getting hf to post flavor is alignment indicative (almost all hosts provide fake claims) and I don't like that he asked other people to claim to try and confirm hf's story. scum So were you being sarcastinc there too? If not, please explain why you lied. On November 24 2013 12:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 23 2013 00:15 JarJarDrinks wrote:
The fact that you think that rayn was completly wrong w/ all of his reads and gave me AND bereft townreads after the flip is suspicious to me. townie "the thing you did is suspicious" scummy "the thing you did is suspicious to me" Reason? It's forced and fake. "Is suspicious" is more aggressive/confrontational, or townie. When you say something "is suspicious" you are saying that something is suspicious. You are trying to make a point to everyone else in the thread that X person is scummy for X reasons. When you say something "is suspicious to me" you are allowing that maybe it's not that suspicious, but it is to you. It's also forced and fake because it's too many words. When you want to say something there is a natural way of saying it, and natural ways of saying things have a lower word-count than ways of saying things thought up by somebody who is lying. This can't be a real case right? This is more sarcasm I assume? On November 24 2013 22:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 16:51 thrawn2112 wrote:
JJD hasn't done anything. Lately he's thrown dirt on Cora, Mocsta, and spent a lot of time talking about HF's claim which would be an easy thing for scum to talk about. He's not talking to people trying to convince them of his reads, and as Mocsta pointed out his delurk timing to defend himself after I randomly voted him doesn't look good. Combine that with what someone just pointed out about his actions leading up the lynch and I think there's a pretty obvious pattern suggesting that he doesn't actually care about discussion or helping town trying to figure out who to lynch. OK, go back and reread and then come back and explain to the town that this did not happen. That's the 2nd time you've posted a lie to make me look scummy.
When you (JJD) think that somebody (thrawn) is lying and making ridiculous cases against you, wouldn't you be suspicious of them? Does JJD sound like he's suspicious of me? No, he's just really angry. He's angry because he's scum and he's mad that I figured out that he's scum and he thinks my cases are bad and doesn't believe he should be lynched because of them. If he was town and decided I was intentionally lying to mislynch him he would looking into my filter and asking me questions about it, or saying my push on him is scummy, etc.
##vote: JarJarDrinks
Corazon.. I made a bunch of posts about why JJD is mafia last night. You barely commented on them besides saying it was too hasty of a vote. If you want me to even think about not lynching JJD then you need to convince me that I'm wrong about him.
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you're missing the main point of what I just said. here's what your post should be
On November 25 2013 07:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Scum would try to discredit and attack the person (this is what he did, trying to discredit me by calling me a liar, but not scum)
Town would try to discredit and attack the argument as well as being suspicious of the person attacking them
Go read those quotes again. Does it look like JJD thinks I'm mafia? He IS trying to discredit me by making fun of my cases and calling me a liar, but he is NOT calling me scum. He is trying to make me look bad, and therfore make my case look bad, without having to stick his neck out by calling me mafia. If he's town, and thought I was lying about him and making really terrible cases he would be suspicious of my motives. He was not suspicious, he was only interested in making me look bad.
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On November 25 2013 08:07 Bereft wrote:thrawn, why are you so certain mocsta is town? is it because he called you his baby?? Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 15:28 Mocsta wrote:post 10Thrawn baby: De ja Vu all over again. We might as well be masons + innocent childs  trust me, these sweet nothings will get you nowhere. do you think onegu's case is without merit?
telepathy
Onegu's case was about mocsts switching his scumreads all the time for no reason. Surely after yesterday's lynch everyone has learned not to use that as a scum tell? Onegu needs to prove why Mocsta's switches promote scum agenda and I don't know how that can be done until we see more flips.
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On November 25 2013 08:21 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 08:14 thrawn2112 wrote:you're missing the main point of what I just said. here's what your post should be On November 25 2013 07:59 cDgCorazon wrote:
Scum would try to discredit and attack the person (this is what he did, trying to discredit me by calling me a liar, but not scum)
Town would try to discredit and attack the argument as well as being suspicious of the person attacking them
Go read those quotes again. Does it look like JJD thinks I'm mafia? He IS trying to discredit me by making fun of my cases and calling me a liar, but he is NOT calling me scum. He is trying to make me look bad, and therfore make my case look bad, without having to stick his neck out by calling me mafia. If he's town, and thought I was lying about him and making really terrible cases he would be suspicious of my motives. He was not suspicious, he was only interested in making me look bad. Maybe he thinks you are just misguided town? Town can make bad cases too, not just scum. I think he is trying to make only your case look bad, and you are making the incorrect conclusion that he is trying to make you look bad also. Your lynch isn't on his agenda, so I'm more inclined to think that he just thinks you are town making a bad case, which isn't too far off if you are town.
Speaking of JJD's agenda, what is it? What has he done during D2? He has thrown suspicion on you and mocsta but he hasn't pushed either of those lynches. He was very trusting of HF's blue claim and that is very suspicious. He asked for roleblock claims and that is suspicious. I'm not even suggesting that he is fishing for blue claims to plan out his night kills. It's bad because townies don't try to figure out claims by asking other people to claim this early on in the game. Townies know that if someone with a blue role has a reason for knowing that HF's claim is bs, that blue role will come forth. Asking roleblockers to claim this early on just isn't what townies do.... because townies don't want to reveal blue roles. He still hasn't voted. We have no idea who he wants to lynch.
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On November 25 2013 09:11 cDgCorazon wrote:
Sorry Moc, there is no way we are going to no-lynch today. It's only going to hurt us with lack of information. We need a flip.
People voting Mocsta: You need to find other lynch trains. JJD is an acceptable one but I'm starting to think again that Onegu is the best one. I hate to say this but if you Mocsta voters force a no-lynch, I will hunt you down relentlessly and policy lynch you all. Pick a different lynch.
I am in an opposite situation. I'm more confident about JJD but I think onegu is a good lynch and will consolidate if needed. I've had a suspicion all throughout this cycle that scum want to lynch mocsta today and jjd and onegu both fit that bill, but I'd argue JJD is scummier about it because he's hasn't taken a stand about his mocsta read. Onegu's case is bad and looks like a scum case as people have pointed out so I don't mind consolidating.
Please don't tell people what to do with their votes, if they are scum I'd rather not give them "advice." Town knows how to consolidate.
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Is the New Brown State's foreign policy one of isolationism, is it one of ignoring the queries of others? Many do not look kindly upon such primitive ideology.
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