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JarJarDrinks
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 22 2013 23:26 Aquanim wrote: Now I wouldn't normally pre-empt an answer like this, but I'm pretty sure I already asked this question and Corazon already answered... in the posts directly after the quoted one. @Onegu, JJD: Do you find Corazon's explanation here insufficient? I think that you pointing out that it was pretty damn close to exactly what he did was spot on. Cora said he was transparent about his reasons while Onegu wasn't. Here's both of their posts telling us that Rayn was a bad wagon: On November 22 2013 04:33 Onegu wrote: Anyway mocsta is my biggest scumread now. Also Rayn is a terrible lynch today please change, ill try to be up for deadline but no promises. Anyway its 2:30am and typeing all that up on a tablet is difficult. ##VOTE:Mocsta @Rayn stop marytring and come back and push your reads. On November 22 2013 11:28 cDgCorazon wrote: You know what, I don't want any part of this. Rayn and Moc are just battling with their egos and this whole thing is silly. I would say that I'd rather have Rayn be lynched so we can move on to more things but I also think it is really stupid that we are voting Rayn out when it's pretty obvious to me now that he is town. ##unvote ##Vote: No-lynch This is stupid and I can't believe that it has come to this. Rayn is a bad lynch and Onegu/Aqua are way better lynches today. And in response to this: On November 22 2013 12:20 cDgCorazon wrote: Wouldn't it make sense for Onegu to put a vote on Moc in the middle of the Rayn tunnel to look like he was making an effort to scum-hunt and then be able to distance himself from a Rayn lynch? I mean, it's exactly what Cora did except w/ Onegu. The only difference is Cora didn't actually put his vote on anyone. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 23 2013 00:02 Mocsta wrote: This just seems like such fake indignation.I don't get this. how am I not playing town that people like jarjar think I am a chance to flip scum? Here's what I said. On November 22 2013 22:23 JarJarDrinks wrote: Also gonna look into Rayns other scumreads though I don't know how much stock I can put into them because of how wrong he was about me. But I don't feel like he could really go 0 for 3 in his reads so if I had to choose 1 scum between Moc and Bereft, right now I'm gonna say it's Moc. But this is before my reread. And Rayn, the confirmed town, thought u were scum. Shouldn't you be more incredulous of that as opposed to me? It'd be stupid to just ignore what rayn had to say. I think it's unlikely that he missed the whole scum team w/ his reads. So it makes sense that @ least ONE of the people he named is scum. And since I have the benefit of narrowing it down to 2 names, I'm certainly gonna analyse it. The fact that you think that rayn was completly wrong w/ all of his reads and gave me AND bereft townreads after the flip is suspicious to me. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 23 2013 02:06 cDgCorazon wrote: Um. wouldn't scum be more inclined to have him flip green ASAP if his reads were wrong?The only reason I could see scum trying to lynch Rayn is if his reads were right. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 23 2013 02:30 Holyflare wrote: This doesn't make sense to me. You say he "screw[ed] up the thread" as we saw. But no one listened to him at all. So why would scum care to have him leave the thread if he's shitting it up AND no one is listening to him? Once he's gone, the town knows all his reads are real.Yes, rayn pushes any target he has forever, wrong or right. If he's alive he can screw up the thread in that respect (as you guys saw). If his reads were wrong a scum team that knows him would keep him alive. So most likely his reads were right and he got lynched ("policy lynched") for it. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 23 2013 02:41 cDgCorazon wrote: So then how could you say that Scum would want to lynch rayn if his reads were right? They should want to keep him in the game no matter what. But especially if his reads were right.Yes but the town atmosphere for the last 12 hours of the game was absolutely terrible. If we had no-lynched Rayn would still an issue and we would waste D2 on it. I guarantee that. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 23 2013 02:50 cDgCorazon wrote: No No No that's not what you said. It was the opposite in fact. U said if Rayns reads were right they should want to kill him UNLESS scum is bad. Well I also said the scum could be misreading the game. That would be possible especially if they have been lurking and not posting in the thread. Here's the post: On November 23 2013 02:06 cDgCorazon wrote: @JJD If I was scum in that situation, what would I do? I would have 2 goals: 1. Keep Rayn alive 2. Not change my story in my attempt to keep Rayn alive The only reason I could see scum trying to lynch Rayn is if his reads were right. So either: 1. All the scum did not vote for Rayn 2. Rayn's reads are at least somewhat correct (at least 1 is scum) 3. The scumteam is just bad To be fair to Onegu, he said that he was not able to make a post before the deadline but to be honest I looked at the time for Australia and I really believe that Onegu could have made a post that said "Hey guys, I don't think Rayn is scum. I'm sticking with my vote" which would have made me accept his vote more. The fact that he didn't kind of points to the fact that he doesn't care about the lynch, a sentiment that has been echoed by many players here. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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So I think we should all just assume that scum attack was foiled. Whether or not it was a HF heal or something else, we can't be sure. HF made his claim 17 minutes before the deadline. More than enough time for scum to change it's target. So I think the shooter was roleblocked. I think we should discuss a potential roleclaim from anyone w/ a roleblocking role. Would love to hear opinions on it. And Holy, can u post ur flavor please? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 23 2013 12:35 Aquanim wrote: Oh OK. Totally forgot that. Please disregard my last post.Scum have the power to withhold their shot and use it tomorrow. Can you tihnk of a particularly good reason why they wouldn't choose to do this? | ||
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On November 23 2013 10:55 cDgCorazon wrote: Yeah. I would definitely not throw out the possibility that 2 scum were off the lynch. Not quite a scumslip, but pretty close I think. Cora posted quite a bit about how Onegu was likley scum because of how he voted. He made a post right before the flip where he wrote his name in red caps 3 times and then he made several posts after about how scummy he was. So how exactly can someone who believes that say "I think if there was a scum OFF the Rayn lynch, it is very likely to be [Jampi]." His brain shouldn't even be able to process that sentence. He tries to cover it up when questioned by saying: Yeah I meant BESIDES Onegu. But you would think that he wouldn't forget his top scum read. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 24 2013 00:36 cDgCorazon wrote: OK, so now you're OK w/ policy lynching but yesterday you refused to vote for Rayn even thoughI'm done. I'm absolutely done. From now on, I'm just going to vote everyone who nitpicks my posts for no reason. Fuck you guys. On November 23 2013 02:41 cDgCorazon wrote: ... the town atmosphere for the last 12 hours of the game was absolutely terrible. If we had no-lynched Rayn would still an issue and we would waste D2 on it. I guarantee that. ????? So why again did you vote no-lynch yesterday? _____________________________________________ On November 24 2013 00:58 cDgCorazon wrote: Go back to your QT and figure out a way not to get lynched, idiot. Why would you call Onegu an idiot if you believe he's scum? Let's say I believe that you're town. Do you think that scum shouldn't try to get townies lynched? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 24 2013 09:57 Holyflare wrote: What's up? Mind posting ur flavor? | ||
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On November 24 2013 11:54 Holyflare wrote: Are you scum trying to out doctors when there is quite clearly one here? I think multiple docs is unlikely. I'm trying to figure out why cora doesn't buy your claim. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 24 2013 11:56 thrawn2112 wrote: Don't make it like I'm asking people to just roleclaim their role. I think it would be unlikely to have 2 docs so I asked cora to claim doc if that's the reason he hasn't bought the claim from the begining. Trading a doc claim to catch scum is worth it. Especially if scum probably would suspect him (which they would).and I don't like that he asked other people to claim to try and confirm hf's story. Saying that I "asked other people to claim" is a lie. I asked ONE person to conditionally claim. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 24 2013 12:01 thrawn2112 wrote: citation neededyou insist on outing every single roll | ||
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On November 24 2013 12:05 thrawn2112 wrote: ##Vote: JarJarDrinks I might can do the Onegu thing but I need to reaffirm my position on him. I am much more confident about JarJar for the reasons I posted in the "notes" spoiler and what I said in my last quote. Are you Fn kidding me? + Show Spoiler + On November 24 2013 11:56 thrawn2112 wrote: -jarjar... don't like his posts, and haven't liked them for awhile now ever since I read what rayn said about him. i don't like his focus on cora or how he goes about it and I don't like how much he likes talking about hf's claim. i dont like how he thinks getting hf to post flavor is alignment indicative (almost all hosts provide fake claims) and I don't like that he asked other people to claim to try and confirm hf's story. scum | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 24 2013 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote: Uh no. It's not sarcasm because you said the same thing in your "case" against me?Making an issue over obvious sarcasm is scummy. On November 24 2013 11:56 thrawn2112 wrote: So were you being sarcastinc there too? If not, please explain why you lied.-jarjar... don't like his posts, and haven't liked them for awhile now ever since I read what rayn said about him. i don't like his focus on cora or how he goes about it and I don't like how much he likes talking about hf's claim. i dont like how he thinks getting hf to post flavor is alignment indicative (almost all hosts provide fake claims) and I don't like that he asked other people to claim to try and confirm hf's story. scum | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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On November 24 2013 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote: This can't be a real case right? This is more sarcasm I assume?townie "the thing you did is suspicious" scummy "the thing you did is suspicious to me" Reason? It's forced and fake. "Is suspicious" is more aggressive/confrontational, or townie. When you say something "is suspicious" you are saying that something is suspicious. You are trying to make a point to everyone else in the thread that X person is scummy for X reasons. When you say something "is suspicious to me" you are allowing that maybe it's not that suspicious, but it is to you. It's also forced and fake because it's too many words. When you want to say something there is a natural way of saying it, and natural ways of saying things have a lower word-count than ways of saying things thought up by somebody who is lying. | ||
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