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scibs.
I'm taking a dump but just wanted to let you know we are both cb'd. at least I admitted I had no time to filter dive you and raised points from recollection. whereas you just ignore what I write outright.
I decided to prioritise vorazon for good reason. its in my posy.. and guess what.
since then coraxon stepped it up and started producing the goods.
corazon like others, I would like yo see onehu case on me before laying down a vote. a lot of what you write seems damning though with the contradictions etc.
I'm feeling a jjd vote. his timeluy felurk only when voted is not resonating well with me.
I was expecting him to give impetus today.
I think aqua is town, nothing to do with his read on me. I was thinking about this before.., hes still posting and trying to solve the game.
I'm liking a lunch between jjd/onegu jampi/rean today.
jampi/rean might be modkilled so I'm going to join and vote
##unvote
##votte: jarjardrinks
aside from the tunnel on cotrazon I can't remember what he has done,
I'm not even sure who his scum reads are.
/arse wiped
I gotta go, be back in say 8hrs
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really bereft??
seriously, post game I would love to know what is so scummy about my play.
regardless of how I play scum personally, I don't even see how what I'm pushing is scummy?
I get poor play - and I'm extremely time poor this weekend. maybe ibshouldnt try to be a thread driver, but I see no one else taking ownership to move the thread forward
why does it take until a vote is thrown for people to come out of the woodworks.
its ok. I don't think u r scum though. when unconfident its normal to become paranoid.
ciao
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On November 24 2013 13:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
Oddly enough mocsta that vote makes me feel uneasy about you. I'd like you to explain who your main scumreads are and why, and who is the scummiest out of all of them and why.
I don't have settled thoughts anymore
just lots of play I don't like
its really frustrating everyone has stopped posting
what I have are town reads
you, bereft, aqua and cora
sci is like an ongoing outlier. sometimes Towny, sometimes scummy
so I'm left with the rest yo process of eliminate
none of them is posting
frankly, hokuflare is my favourite vote.. but I can't do it.
plus hes playing co pletely differently to Hogwarts 
I have to factor that in too.
I really have to go now. chat later
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bereft.
lthanks for looking for a phrase but notice onegu called himself hard tunneled
j reaffirmed it for him using his phrase
your welcome yo keep trying if you think it will help
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If anything
Bereft pointer between the two games where I am confirmed scum; indicates I am town this game.
(1)
When referring to onegu, i call him tunneled and then imemdiately ask him questions to try and probe his alignment.
(2)
When referring to Artanis, I call him tunnel, discredit him and then suggest him to go look for scum elsewhere.
Two extremely different approaches to the same issue (someone tunneling me as scum). The difference in approach is due to motive.
In (2) I just want to get the heat off me. In (1) I am actually trying to figure out if this guy is sincere in his tunnel to justify lack of contribution.
You know what, yes, Bereft. I have come in and given pro-town spiels asking others to contribute whilst throwing very low-mature reads.
In hindsight that's contradictory, yes.
But, I openly acknowledged i have low time this weekedn to play mafia, and its frustrating to specifically make an effort to check in, and the thread count hasn't moved -- and when it does move its the same people talking.
Corazon/Aquanim/myself.
Yes, I need to do less "spiels" and moer "filter diving" with pause before conclusions; and after tonight i will be doing that.
To insinuate scum because I have ben transparent is dumb. However, to take that one step further and consider me a viable lynched.. thats just plain stupid.
Lastly, as others already said, the onyl thing keeping me from lynching Holy is the claim.
I wanted him gone night1 more than anyone else and I raised several valid points against him. The fact remains that his claim is self-confirming.
If he is doctor; scum have *should* shoot him tonight
If there is 2 KP; we lynch him D3.
Even though I think he is scum, I would rather try and find the other 2.
##Unvote
JJD yes that was harsh of a vote. You were one of the people I was expecting to drive the thread this cycle, so I hate detest delurks to counter a vote.
Corazon
Yes, if Onegu doesn't give his case in say the next 6 to 8hrs, I want him lynched. Hes in the same time zone as me; and typically is active starting from around the next 6 hrs.
Hes had ample opportunity to deliver the case, and considering he was fixated on me, should have never really done bereft first.
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On November 24 2013 15:12 Bereft wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about an onegu lynch. I read your case, Cora, along with his filter. the problem is I find onegu hard to read (both literally and figuratively, the former of which has led to his scum read on me unfortunately). I'm actually very willing to consider that he might be town right now, because his tone sounds very genuine. also, the post where he gave me an out / an opportunity to play the newbie card stands out. I don't see why he would do this as scum: Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 19:05 Onegu wrote:
@bereft
Serious question how new are you? This drasticly influeances my read on you. Im going to make my case on you anyway because its halfway done and alot of is still relevant for you to answer he quoted me on this in his filter (I'd forgotten I'd said this): Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 02:19 Bereft wrote:
also cmon Onegu m'boy. I gave you a town read when no one else thought so. live up to the high hopes I have for you and make the right vote! this will be I-RO-NIC if mocsta's scum. This is good for discussion.
his tone sounds very genuine
Fair enough, but what is he discussing that sound genuine?
Is any of it related to hunting scum; or is it related to personal opinion/commentary?
newbie card gave me an out
Did it give you an out; or an opportunity for him not to present his case?
I dont recall reading you responding to the case; if you did apologies.
If not, did you think the case had merit?
Did you think the case would have *MORE* merit if it included "newbie card" factors?
At times in this game you have been aggressive and assertive; and other times you have bucked the trend and admitted a policy lynch... What type of newbie does this? I would argue the point is moot.
Tunnel on Mocsta
Who has the biggest "official" tunnel read on me in the thread
Onegu? Holyfalre? JJD? Bereft?
Apparently Onegu (Followed closely by Holyflare)
Who has actually voiced their concerns publicly in a transparent way.
No one (but kinda transparent = JJD + Bereft)
All Onegu/Holyflare have done is discredit. Heck, Onegu has been calling me scum for what 5 days of real life now? Yet no case has materialised.
Why have players like Bereft/JJd been able to voice concerns about my play over this interval and they arent the strongest advocate of my lynch?
Food for thought
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Scibs
I completely endorse that post of yours on p74, 100%
As for the host question, may have to PM it to him.
Unfortunately, I think its still too early to talk about modkills. These "dipshits" often post in the last 10 minute of the cycle screwing up all planning that occurs - as town or scum.
A majority may be difficult as well??
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hey scibs,
at least we are both suspicious of each other.
but I'm surprised u think onegu is a good scum player?
he enjoys playing scum,but skates by all his games by being allowed to useless as town or scum. hardly anything to be proud of.
what do you think regarding the discussion prompters I put up from berefts comments?
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On November 24 2013 16:05 sciberbia wrote:@Mocsta So here I am most definitely the best lynch today: + Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 09:31 Mocsta wrote:I didn't think it would take 13minutes for a response. But whatevers, I obviously haven't had a chance to look into Scibs filter in detail (or at all) since i was consumed with Corazon. Things I remember from Scibs - Terrible case on Corazon - Came in and gave a town read on Rayn, and then semi-AFK'd, he stated he wanted Onegu lynched as a priority but it was clear he was happy playing second-fiddle - Gives a defense of Bereft; and if Onegu was his best scum read, *SHOULD* have followed through with why Onegu is intentionally misrepresenting play and why Onegu is the best lynch for today. Essentially 2 cycles in a row, Scibs is happy emailing everyone a bulletin of his intentions and doing nothing to campaign for them. ##Unvote##Vote: SciberbiaIf someone wants to filter dive him whilst I'm gone, and prove otherwise - go ahead. until that point in time, he is most definitely the best lynch for today. And here 4 hours later I'm not even in your top 4. + Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
I'm liking a lunch between jjd/onegu jampi/rean today.
jampi/rean might be modkilled so I'm going to join and vote
##unvote
##votte: jarjardrinks
Nobody "did a filter dive while you were gone" and proved I was town, so what's the reasoning for this? nothing. you constantly make me paranoid with absense. so I make a point against you and you alleviate that paranoia.
painful but true.
gonna be out for 3 to 4 hrs now. if you want anything else, lemme k ow
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##vote: jarjardrinks*
Lets get a majority people !!!
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hmmmm
gonna read jjd filter now.
I'm disappointed onegu is still a no show.
I think the lynch will be between these two players.
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On November 21 2013 01:12 JarJarDrinks wrote:K, so I think Rean looks pretty bad too. Like really bad. Almost every one of his posts seem scummy to me. Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 12:50 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
I took a shower. Sorry for not wanting to smell bad.
Moc, I'm quite concerned that you have already used up >25% of your "self-allotted posts". If you're going to start spamming, it's going to be a problem.
Now to my goals/early game statements:
1. I'm not gonna make any meta crap posts. TBH I don't remember anyone's meta and it's ridiculously stupid logic. I'm not going to stand for it and I don't think you guys should either.
2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote.
3. I'm going to do my best to not be just an onlooker. I'm gonna try and facilitate discussion and ask a lot of questions instead of just answering questions and throw my ideas out there and just create more chaos.
On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.
Couldn't agree more. Also, don't shit up the thread with useless spam like the LXIII game please. I tried keeping up but the amount of shit posts just trolling/making useless jokes/comments is unbearable and makes it impossible to tell low-laying scum from trolling townies. If anyone goes around posting stupid oneliners without saying anything meaningful they have my vote >.> Says nothing about the game. Makes an empty threat. Posts completely obvious stuff. Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 12:55 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 12:52 Bereft wrote:
Rean, what do you think of Mocsta thus far? Talks a lot, seems awfully certain of everything he says. That's not what he thinks of Mocsta. That's telling us how Mocsta has been acting. It's a recap and nothing more. Did he really think that Bereft was asking how Mocsta was acting and NOT whether he though he scummy or not? Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 13:14 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 13:04 Aquanim wrote:On November 20 2013 12:55 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 12:52 Bereft wrote:
Rean, what do you think of Mocsta thus far? Talks a lot, seems awfully certain of everything he says. @Rean Given this, which way are you leaning on Mocsta in terms of alignment? I'd say town, scum is typically more laidback. But could just be a good scumbag. So Aqua follows up and he give a very non-committal answer of "probably town but could be scum". Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 13:36 Rean wrote:
Aquanim, you're constantly asking but never saying much about what you think. Gimme one town and one scum and reasons why please. @ least aqua is asking stuff. Rean never asked a question or gave any read, aside from the non read I posted above after he was asked TWICE. All his posts were stating the obvious/answering questions unrelated to reads. Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 15:50 Rean wrote:Smartass comment that I couldn't resist: + Show Spoiler +On November 20 2013 15:28 Mocsta wrote:post 10 On November 20 2013 15:29 Mocsta wrote:post 12 consider getting one of these, you could use it :3 More seriously: Mocsta, good post by post analysis but I don't agree with it all. Your points on both Scib and Corazon make sense but I think you're falling into the "he must be scum so I'll try to interpret everything he says as scummy" trap a little with Cora. In particular: + Show Spoiler +On November 20 2013 13:24 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 13:20 Aquanim wrote:
@Corazon
I'd like you to elaborate more on why you think sciberbia is scum. I don't entirely understand your argument at present. He's trying to get us to tunnel each other early so he can just sit around and piggyback on town lynches and point the finger at others. This is demonstrated when he essentially copies my post asking thrawn if he was a mason (deliberately, his post was at least 2-3 minutes after mine) and then decides that he can take my words and twist them when I pressure him about it. This is what troubles me about sciberia right now. seems like a legitimate point to me rather than a scum-slip. But it could be a way of distancing himself from Scib if he flips red. I also want to see Aquanim under a bit of pressure to see how he reacts but let's not do everything at once. And the lack of 5 people is rather disappointing still. Now here he seems to defend cora. He said earlier that he liked coras case on sci. He tells Moc that he's falling into the "he must be scum so I'll try to interpret everything he says as scummy" trap. And then again w/ the same non-committal read he gave Mocsta with "seems like a legitimate point to me rather than a scum-slip. But it could be a way of distancing himself from Scib if he flips red". Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 16:08 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 15:56 Mocsta wrote:
(A) Discredit me slightly - which is OK, the problem is the non-firm opinion on Corazon or Sciberbia
(B) Subtlely sway convo to Aquanim - again this could be OK in isolation, but I dont like with (A)
(C) Comment about lack of followup from 5 people.
B and C are there as a reminder. Aquanim feels to me like he's getting by too comfortably, but for now its a small lean towards scum as opposed to Corazon/Scib feeling much more scummy to me.And I'm not discrediting you, I want to warn you not to tunnelvision. Tunnelvision impairs you from thinking logically and it's lost me games in the past because I was convinced I was right and tried to make everything seem as if I was. Maybe that's why I seem non-commital, I don't want to repeat the same mistake. You're right that C/S are acting dodgy but don't close your mind. On November 20 2013 15:57 Aquanim wrote:
@Mocsta
If Corazon and sciberbia are both scum, what was their motive for going after one another as they have so early? It's focused a lot of attention on the two of them, and I can't imagine that being what scum wants.
@Rean
Why do you want to see me in particular pressured? To me you look like you're in the position that if I were scum I'd love: sit back, ask some questions, give some non-commital opinions from time to time and earn easy town credit while not under any real pressure. So one of your questions back at you: if you had a vig shot that only hit scum, who would you aim it at right now and why? So apparently, he now has a scumread from cora? Wasn't he JUST defending him? ##Vote: Rean thrawn
note jjd last point on rean. then note his intro line on nominating rean as scum.
it encapsulates.. more scummy TO ME
this was a pretty detailed post from jjd and was one of the reasons I had a town read on him.. I'm considering jjd sensed rean was going down and bussed him. I haven't checked vote counts to sense timing awareness though.
I'm on tablet tonight so its really hard to quote, but before this jjd goes from scum read on me to unjustified scum read on corazon to this read on rean. I do find it odd that jjd in his first post analysis of team states he is doing nothing, when he is in fact calling out his former scum read corazon.
food for thought
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On November 21 2013 01:43 JarJarDrinks wrote:Sorry to repost this again but wanted everyone to know what post we're all talking about since there seems to be some dispute: Show nested quote +On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game. So Cora, who thinks sciberia was making a calculated scum play, decides that correct thing to say about it is to tell him to stop. He then gives the person that he believes is smart scum advice on how to find scum. after the rean case, jjd spends a lot of time talking about corazon rocking the boat.
in fairness he was questioned about it by people like jampi, myself, corqzon so its unfair to state he instantly dropped his suspicions on rean.
what I find odd here is that hes not explaining why these points in corazin are conducive to hunting scum.
hes calling out poor/bad play, nothing more.
the disconcerting part is that he is phrasing his points as if they are indeed scummy.
consider his articulation with the rean case. why the sudden inability yo be specific with scum motivation here?
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On November 24 2013 23:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 22:29 sciberbia wrote:
@JJD
Have you reread Onegu and HolyFlare? What are your conclusions?
Who do you want to lynch today? I've read though Onegu filter a bunch of times now and I never come away thinking he's scum. We were scumbuddies once and though we won, I wasn,t paticularly impressed w/ his scum play. If onegu's scum here, he's playing it so much better than in our game. I've read through HF and he come's off as scummy to me. But the Doc claim makes no sense for scum. That's why, as thrawn pointed, I spent a lot of time talking the claim. I'd probably like to lynch the guy that just replaced in and dropped a random vote w/ like no explaination. And I'm sure someone will say something along the lines of "OMG scum just wants to go after the easy target", but whatever. Jampi was a scummy lurker and it's gonna be forever (barring a scumslip or something) before we get enough on the new guy.
so in short. you want town to continue to policy lynch. correct?
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On November 21 2013 04:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 03:50 Mocsta wrote:
"Did you read the Thrawn case?" (on Aquanim)
Yeah, it seems like his reason is basically because aqua isn't scumhunting. I disagree. Aqua is all over Rean for similiar reasons that I (and several others) are. He agree's w/ me on the cora/sci situation, even if he doesn't quite think it makes cora scum like I do. I mean, a huge part of thrawns case is that Aqua is accusing Rean. Which I think is a very town thing to do.
here jjd acknowledges he still has a scum read on corazon.
so I'm perplexed why he ignored rean calling put corazon in his case..
that aside, I find it odd given jjd case on rean that he would not request a lurker lynch on rean.
maybe its because he hasn't been replaced yet, but still odd in general.
3 scum, and he wants to take pot luck on a replacement?
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On November 21 2013 06:02 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 05:56 cDgCorazon wrote:
JJD. I'm done with that. If you fail to read my filter then I don't feel obliged to answer the same questions over and over again. I have read your filter. No need to answer it again it you did, just please link or quote a post where you explain the reason you had a scumread on sciberia @ that point in the game that isn't because of his first post.
prior I also felt jjd continuation of corqzon was townie.. I,e dog with a bone
however thinking about it more, hes trying to catch corazon out in a lie, but why is this so important to devote over 10posts to?
at no time does he articulate why this sequence from corazon is scummy
the dog with the bone thing is what is bugging me the most. its why I expected jjd to give impetusnthis weekend. he blames activity but he wasnt here much since before the weekend started either.
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bereft,
regarding the doc claim.., I'm inclined to believe hokyflare.. something so outrageous is fucking ballsy as scum. holy has big balls, but this claim is self confirming. let it run its course.
regarding jjd, since you are familat please look over the things I'm starting to point out,
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On November 21 2013 06:53 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 06:40 cDgCorazon wrote:
Yeah it better be ok because it's the last I'm answering about it. You're not reading my filter...I made several posts about where I talk about why I was suspicious of Sci. The end. You don't get to end it. Would you rather I vote for you instead of question you about it? Stop saying I'm not reading your filter because I've read it more than I've read anyone elses as evidenced by the fact that I've quoted the shit out of it. The bottom line is: - You said Sci was scummy for his page 1 post - You later said that you would not base a scum read off of page 1 posts - You refuse to acknowledge or defend the above Now I'll stop if you want and are saying you're not gonna address this anymore. But what I posted above are all facts that people should be aware of.
I like this post.
feels pretty sincere as a response
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On November 21 2013 22:33 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 17:25 Mocsta wrote:
The Good: {Thrawn, JarJarDrinks, Aquanim, Bereft}
The Bad: {Onegu, LoneMeow, Rayn, Sciberbia}
The Ugly: {Rean, jampidampi, Corazon}
<3 you man. Pretty much my reads exactly. Though I'd probably move Scib and Onegu up to the green group. Rayn has fallen way down for me from his early game. If I was gonna remove anyone from the reds, Rayne would probably take their place. The only thing troubling, and I think you touched on this earlier, I'm not sure if I'm crazy about a Rean/Cora scumteam. Would need to reread a bunch but I think that can be worried about after the flip.
jjd has been pushing cora/rean as his two leads a, and is now doubting their coexidtance.
I find this odd.
here he assets rayn has fallen to a scum read. which implies he had a preexisting town read. I don't think the phrasing allows for null.
On November 22 2013 00:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I don't like anty lynch aside from Rayn or Rean here. Rayn made his move and got all the votes off Rean. If we switch to someone else, we're letting him dictate the vote. If we move off Rayne, they need to go back to Rean.
this suggests he thought rayn was trying to save reany. hence the scum read on both.
I don't mind this as a town tell because at the time I had considered the same theory.
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On November 24 2013 23:57 Bereft wrote:hi mocsta, i saw you sent me some discussion prompters last night. i promise i'll get to them. but first, i wanted to address this: Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 16:09 Mocsta wrote:On November 24 2013 16:05 sciberbia wrote:@Mocsta So here I am most definitely the best lynch today: + Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 09:31 Mocsta wrote:I didn't think it would take 13minutes for a response. But whatevers, I obviously haven't had a chance to look into Scibs filter in detail (or at all) since i was consumed with Corazon. Things I remember from Scibs - Terrible case on Corazon - Came in and gave a town read on Rayn, and then semi-AFK'd, he stated he wanted Onegu lynched as a priority but it was clear he was happy playing second-fiddle - Gives a defense of Bereft; and if Onegu was his best scum read, *SHOULD* have followed through with why Onegu is intentionally misrepresenting play and why Onegu is the best lynch for today. Essentially 2 cycles in a row, Scibs is happy emailing everyone a bulletin of his intentions and doing nothing to campaign for them. ##Unvote##Vote: SciberbiaIf someone wants to filter dive him whilst I'm gone, and prove otherwise - go ahead. until that point in time, he is most definitely the best lynch for today. And here 4 hours later I'm not even in your top 4. + Show Spoiler +On November 24 2013 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
I'm liking a lunch between jjd/onegu jampi/rean today.
jampi/rean might be modkilled so I'm going to join and vote
##unvote
##votte: jarjardrinks
Nobody "did a filter dive while you were gone" and proved I was town, so what's the reasoning for this? nothing. you constantly make me paranoid with absense. so I make a point against you and you alleviate that paranoia. painful but true. gonna be out for 3 to 4 hrs now. if you want anything else, lemme k ow can you please expand on what specifically alleviated your concerns on sciberia? you say that it's his absence that made you paranoid. but in your actual vote, you make no mention that his absence is a concern: + Show Spoiler + On November 24 2013 09:31 Mocsta wrote:I didn't think it would take 13minutes for a response. But whatevers, I obviously haven't had a chance to look into Scibs filter in detail (or at all) since i was consumed with Corazon. Things I remember from Scibs - Terrible case on Corazon - Came in and gave a town read on Rayn, and then semi-AFK'd, he stated he wanted Onegu lynched as a priority but it was clear he was happy playing second-fiddle - Gives a defense of Bereft; and if Onegu was his best scum read, *SHOULD* have followed through with why Onegu is intentionally misrepresenting play and why Onegu is the best lynch for today. Essentially 2 cycles in a row, Scibs is happy emailing everyone a bulletin of his intentions and doing nothing to campaign for them. ##Unvote##Vote: SciberbiaIf someone wants to filter dive him whilst I'm gone, and prove otherwise - go ahead. until that point in time, he is most definitely the best lynch for today. furthermore, you said this: Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
If anything
Bereft pointer between the two games where I am confirmed scum; indicates I am town this game.
(1)
When referring to onegu, i call him tunneled and then imemdiately ask him questions to try and probe his alignment.
(2)
When referring to Artanis, I call him tunnel, discredit him and then suggest him to go look for scum elsewhere.
Two extremely different approaches to the same issue (someone tunneling me as scum). The difference in approach is due to motive.
In (2) I just want to get the heat off me. In (1) I am actually trying to figure out if this guy is sincere in his tunnel to justify lack of contribution. is this not an attempt at discrediting my opinion? Show nested quote +On November 24 2013 13:09 Mocsta wrote:
really bereft??
seriously, post game I would love to know what is so scummy about my play.
regardless of how I play scum personally, I don't even see how what I'm pushing is scummy?
I get poor play - and I'm extremely time poor this weekend. maybe ibshouldnt try to be a thread driver, but I see no one else taking ownership to move the thread forward
why does it take until a vote is thrown for people to come out of the woodworks.
its ok. I don't think u r scum though. when unconfident its normal to become paranoid.
ciao 2.
no thats not a discredit. thats me stating I find you to be not confident in tpyour reads.
discredit would be to call you a noon and insinuate younpack scum hunting capability.
my point was, when uncertain its easy to jump over anything that doesn't agree with your opinion.,,, notice I have done that a lot this cycle. hence, I think you are unconfident town, rather than scum taking an opportune moment to discredit me
1. I can't really explain it. hes sitting in this awkward zone for me where he seems to care about the lynch. but is inactive enough not to have thread presence to campaign.
I.e, ideal lblending spot for scum,
if there is active svum in this game. by virtue of activity it would be sciberbisa.can cross that bridge when one scum is left thoguh
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