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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 14:45 GMT
#2181
Cora while you are here can you answer a question for me?


On November 25 2013 07:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
While I think it is a great case Onegu (and your recent activity has earned my unvote), I'm worried that killing Mocsta will put the thread to a screeching halt like it has been for most of D2. Look how inactive the thread has been with Mocsta's limited time to play this weekend.

In my opinion, Mocsta is one of those players who will either:

a)get killed in the first 2-3 nights
or
b)be lynched due to his behavior

A town Mocsta is a really good asset for town. Scum will be looking to nightkill him ASAP and if they don't do that, then there is a good chance he is one of them.

I'm not disagreeing with you because of my read on your or your points in the case- I just disagree with the principle of lynching Mocsta right now.

Is there anyone outside of Mocsta/Bereft you would be ok with lynching?



What points did you agree with, what part was great?
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
November 26 2013 14:48 GMT
#2182
cDgCorazon (0): thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Onegu, thrawn2112, sciberbia, Holyflare
Aquanim (2): thrawn2112. Mocsta, jampidampi, cDgCorazon, Rean, raynpelikoneet
Rean (0): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, raynpelikoneet, Bereft, Mocsta, thrawn2112, raynpelikoneet
Onegu (0): sciberbia, thrawn2112
Bereft (0): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (0): raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet (8): thrawn2112, Mocsta. Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Bereft, raynpelikoneet, cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, thrawn2112, raynpelikoneet, thrawn2112, Holyflare, sciberbia, raynpelikoneet
jampidampi (0): raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (1): Onegu, raynpelikoneet
JarJarDrinks (0): raynpelikoneet
No-Lynch (1): cDgCorazon


Bereft (0): thrawn2112
Alakaslam (1): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Mocsta
Chezinu (1): Mocsta, thrawn2112, Mocsta, thrawn2112
Onegu (0): cDgCorazon, cDgCorazon, Aquanim, thrawn2112, cDgCorazon, Chezinu
JarJarDrinks (6): cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Aquanim, Mocsta, thrawn2112, Bereft, thrawn2112, Mocsta, Aquanim, cDgCorazon, Alakaslam, Mocsta
sciberbia (0): Mocsta, Chezinu
Holyflare (1): Bereft, Aquanim, Chezinu
Mocsta (2): Bereft, Onegu, Holyflare
Thrawn2112 (0): cDgCorazon

It may be time for the rising star to face the dragon.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 26 2013 14:50 GMT
#2183
On November 26 2013 23:48 Chezinu wrote:
cDgCorazon (0): thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Onegu, thrawn2112, sciberbia, Holyflare
Aquanim (2): thrawn2112. Mocsta, jampidampi, cDgCorazon, Rean, raynpelikoneet
Rean (0): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, raynpelikoneet, Bereft, Mocsta, thrawn2112, raynpelikoneet
Onegu (0): sciberbia, thrawn2112
Bereft (0): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (0): raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet (8): thrawn2112, Mocsta. Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Bereft, raynpelikoneet, cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, thrawn2112, raynpelikoneet, thrawn2112, Holyflare, sciberbia, raynpelikoneet
jampidampi (0): raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (1): Onegu, raynpelikoneet
JarJarDrinks (0): raynpelikoneet
No-Lynch (1): cDgCorazon


Bereft (0): thrawn2112
Alakaslam (1): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Mocsta
Chezinu (1): Mocsta, thrawn2112, Mocsta, thrawn2112
Onegu (0): cDgCorazon, cDgCorazon, Aquanim, thrawn2112, cDgCorazon, Chezinu
JarJarDrinks (6): cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Aquanim, Mocsta, thrawn2112, Bereft, thrawn2112, Mocsta, Aquanim, cDgCorazon, Alakaslam, Mocsta
sciberbia (0): Mocsta, Chezinu
Holyflare (1): Bereft, Aquanim, Chezinu
Mocsta (2): Bereft, Onegu, Holyflare
Thrawn2112 (0): cDgCorazon

It may be time for the rising star to face the dragon.



yes yes we get it your read was wrong and now you have to battle cora in an epic fight, glhfgg
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 26 2013 14:51 GMT
#2184
mocsta* has to
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 26 2013 14:52 GMT
#2185
or you, i don't even care anymore ~_~
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
November 26 2013 14:52 GMT
#2186
On November 26 2013 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 23:48 Chezinu wrote:
cDgCorazon (0): thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Onegu, thrawn2112, sciberbia, Holyflare
Aquanim (2): thrawn2112. Mocsta, jampidampi, cDgCorazon, Rean, raynpelikoneet
Rean (0): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, raynpelikoneet, Bereft, Mocsta, thrawn2112, raynpelikoneet
Onegu (0): sciberbia, thrawn2112
Bereft (0): raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (0): raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet (8): thrawn2112, Mocsta. Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Bereft, raynpelikoneet, cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, thrawn2112, raynpelikoneet, thrawn2112, Holyflare, sciberbia, raynpelikoneet
jampidampi (0): raynpelikoneet
Mocsta (1): Onegu, raynpelikoneet
JarJarDrinks (0): raynpelikoneet
No-Lynch (1): cDgCorazon


Bereft (0): thrawn2112
Alakaslam (1): Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Mocsta
Chezinu (1): Mocsta, thrawn2112, Mocsta, thrawn2112
Onegu (0): cDgCorazon, cDgCorazon, Aquanim, thrawn2112, cDgCorazon, Chezinu
JarJarDrinks (6): cDgCorazon, thrawn2112, Mocsta, sciberbia, Aquanim, Mocsta, thrawn2112, Bereft, thrawn2112, Mocsta, Aquanim, cDgCorazon, Alakaslam, Mocsta
sciberbia (0): Mocsta, Chezinu
Holyflare (1): Bereft, Aquanim, Chezinu
Mocsta (2): Bereft, Onegu, Holyflare
Thrawn2112 (0): cDgCorazon

It may be time for the rising star to face the dragon.



yes yes we get it your read was wrong and now you have to battle cora in an epic fight, glhfgg


You have broken the Chezinu Rule. It will not be forgotten.. except you may not qualify for the rule.. Chezinu Rule only applies to those who have never played with Chez before.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 14:52 GMT
#2187
HF I think you are the riseing sun. I wonder who I am though?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 14:54 GMT
#2188
@ Chez can you interact with me even though we played together one time you never interacted with me
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
November 26 2013 14:54 GMT
#2189
On November 26 2013 23:52 Onegu wrote:
HF I think you are the riseing sun. I wonder who I am though?

Yes.. I am the sun! I am also the.. the... Undercover Analyst! I must not let the Eternium Dragon devour me!!! ROAR!!!!!!
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Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 26 2013 14:59 GMT
#2190
I was entertaining the idea that onegu was framed or a miller, but the way onegu and HF are reacting makes me feel pretty good that they are scum together. however I do have some lingering paranoia - would you guys be willing to humor me and vote HF out first? there's a tiny chance onegu was framed or is a miller, but about a 0% chance HF is actually a doctor.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 15:01 GMT
#2191
So the Holy Flare isnt the riseing sun. Interesting. I found out coras name meant heart so he cant be the dragon. There can only be one Eternium Dragon, I am ONEgu, but if that is the case maybe the Magician cast a spell on me because I am only ONEGUy.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 15:02 GMT
#2192
On November 26 2013 23:59 Bereft wrote:
I was entertaining the idea that onegu was framed or a miller, but the way onegu and HF are reacting makes me feel pretty good that they are scum together. however I do have some lingering paranoia - would you guys be willing to humor me and vote HF out first? there's a tiny chance onegu was framed or is a miller, but about a 0% chance HF is actually a doctor.



Why not possible cora is lieing and isnt Cop? Why only frame or miller. We are in mylo.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 26 2013 15:17 GMT
#2193
On November 26 2013 23:45 Onegu wrote:
Cora while you are here can you answer a question for me?


Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 07:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
While I think it is a great case Onegu (and your recent activity has earned my unvote), I'm worried that killing Mocsta will put the thread to a screeching halt like it has been for most of D2. Look how inactive the thread has been with Mocsta's limited time to play this weekend.

In my opinion, Mocsta is one of those players who will either:

a)get killed in the first 2-3 nights
or
b)be lynched due to his behavior

A town Mocsta is a really good asset for town. Scum will be looking to nightkill him ASAP and if they don't do that, then there is a good chance he is one of them.

I'm not disagreeing with you because of my read on your or your points in the case- I just disagree with the principle of lynching Mocsta right now.

Is there anyone outside of Mocsta/Bereft you would be ok with lynching?



What points did you agree with, what part was great?

I actually have to go to school now. I'm sorry but i will give you a better answer later.

For now, I agreed with the party about Mocsta changing his reads a lot (which was basically your whole case). It was more along the lines of "I'm really annoyed with Mocsta and if he keeps doing it I might start getting suspicious of him".
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 26 2013 16:05 GMT
#2194
On November 26 2013 23:59 Bereft wrote:
I was entertaining the idea that onegu was framed or a miller, but the way onegu and HF are reacting makes me feel pretty good that they are scum together. however I do have some lingering paranoia - would you guys be willing to humor me and vote HF out first? there's a tiny chance onegu was framed or is a miller, but about a 0% chance HF is actually a doctor.


I don't think you've paid any attention to this game or my previous ones.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 26 2013 16:38 GMT
#2195
On a break. A few questions for people:

@Holyflare
A couple of things. Can you explain your thrawn save N1 again for me?
Why are you lurking at the deadline and not participating in the discussion or giving out your reads if you are town?

@Alakaslam
You told us that Chezinu is town but you never gave any evidence for it and never suggested an alternate scum member. How come?

@Chezinu
Who's "true color" did you attempt to find out last night?
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
November 26 2013 16:45 GMT
#2196
On November 26 2013 20:07 Onegu wrote:
Can we please vote 24 hour day?

Day durations are going to stay the same, sorry.
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Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 26 2013 17:07 GMT
#2197
Cora has been a pretty unwavering town read for me since n1/d2. his explanation to moc of why he never gave scib a strong town read in his posting was extremely solid. while I don't know if I agree with him claiming 40 min before the deadline was over, his rationalization of it was consistent with a townie mindset in my opinion.

compare this to HF whose explanations and rationalizations for his actions are completely inconsistent with an actual blue role. I cannot believe for a moment he would be around at the deadline and change his save target to Cora without even questioning Cora's motivations, considering the suspicions he has of him. combined with the way he acted N1, it is basically impossible that even the most confused and foolish of doctors would do the things he's doing.

I think onegu is a good lynch but HF is a safer one. when we are at mylo I don't see any harm in being risk averse, and I hope you guys will agree.

also this last bit might be a bit of a stretch, but considering how he implies cora should've checked him he's probably the GF. if he flips GF we know that the scum check on onegu is basically unquestionable.

##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 17:25 GMT
#2198
Pics incomeing

Just going to give a link to the gallery there are 28 pics some are of the same page twice but not many sorry. Takeing a few minutes to upload because shitty internet.

Also I really am working on my cora case and trying to format it well so it is readable.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 17:43 GMT
#2199
first half, mocsta and cora filter notes for cases

Basicly these are tl;dr of their filters with my own notes added in so I can do quick checks.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 17:45 GMT
#2200
Again some are the same note but to try and let you read what I write.
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