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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 26 2013 07:20 GMT
#2101
On November 26 2013 15:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude yeah it's a closed setup. With cop and doctor, (again why doctor didn't die is more WIFOM -_-) millers are easily possible. But yeah, it's pretty strong indication...

Onegu are you against me voting you or are you exasperated?

Maybe skimming isn't the best thing let me really read stuff



Im exasperated, my own fault I cant convey my thoughts clearly, and I look scummy but I do in every town game I play, kinda why I joined a bootcamp game to get feedback, and then a red check on me I expect it to be believed. But then coupled with what I will say on cora later in my case and my green flip, if we dont get endgame with my flip I really still believe we can pull this out if town gets to day 4. Because it will be obvious cora is scum. Then I will spoiler the connections cora has with mocsta so you can add that to my case on mocsta, and when I flip please, please, please read it give it a chance and see where I am comeing from. If you actully read it and disagree with it fine but read it that is really all I ask. Of course this is assumeing we dont get endgame post.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 26 2013 07:22 GMT
#2102
On November 26 2013 16:03 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:59 Onegu wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:52 Mocsta wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:45 Onegu wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
Why is holyflare off this list.

He buses as scum. Why can't he be riding your cases to earn town cred.

Why is his dubious timing if the doc claim ignored.

Why so double standard?

Why are you writing novels?



True HF busses, He didnt just ride my cases he has added points, And now we are in mylo I am trying to give the scum team now as I will be lynched today. As I said rean would be the last person I voted, also as I said earlier if we get down to only one scum left and HF the claimed doctor is still alive then he really should be looked at, until there is only one scum left I read town on HF. If there is only one scum left and it is mylo or lylo and they left the claimed doctor alive until only one scum left the I could see him being scum. But only at that point, unless that happens my read goes to rean.

Lol.. that doesn't answer the question at all.

Why do you treat holyflare town for dubious claim timing, and treat Corazon opposite for the same dubious timing.

In your case against me you think I do this to jampi, and this are scummy.

So tables are turned.. why onegu?

Further the above doesn't explain why holy is town, if anything it sounds lime he is town by Poe.



No I didnt say HF is town because of his claim timeing, I think its null, but I point out coras for 2 reasons, 1 a cop check can be messed with via framer, and 2 if I was scum and he was going to cop check me and I knew I would flip red why not kill him, he has been just as active if not more active than thrawn and aqua, why not the claimed blue who was going to have a red check on me.

Look I gave my scumteam, if somehow we get to lylo with one scum alive and the claimed doctor is still alive at that point yes he becomes scummy, until that happens I have a town read on him.
why not kill him??

Notice that you.. chezinu.. holy were not posting in the thread at cycle end.

It's equally wifom to state you did not see the claim lol...

Stop with the Strawman arguments and start playing the game.




Ok fine we can say thats wifom, and not a point against him if you want, for now. Although the why claim cop before deadline because it can be fucked with still stands.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 26 2013 07:24 GMT
#2103
On November 26 2013 16:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude Cora is so town. anyone questioning that is seeing the world differently from me.



Just conjecture, but lets say I flip town what then?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:24 GMT
#2104
On November 26 2013 16:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 12:51 Mocsta wrote:
So it's 5-3 and MYLO

Cora fake claim could be an awesome start to finish off the game but I prefer his play as town. And the sudden change on sciberbia does seem hard to fake.

I much prefer hf giving up and deciding to copy the blszinghand fake doc claim strat.
This buys them another cycle and possibly gets a mislynch.

Fact. Holyflare has nothing nothing all game.
Corazon has been present all cycles.

Yes scum is
Hf, onegu, chezinu


Mocsta nobody pushing Chezinu?

Please, bear in mind what I said of him.

Here's the problem
Bereft is townier than you or cheZ

If you want to stick up for chez, process of elimination leaves just you.

So whose scum: you or chezinu? Lol...

We can deal with this after the lynch.

As an aside. Chez replaced jampidampi. Did you read my jampi case?

Cos we know onegu hasn't (to comment on it as asked)
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 26 2013 07:25 GMT
#2105
Ok I will comment on it. Moment.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:26 GMT
#2106
On November 26 2013 16:24 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 16:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude Cora is so town. anyone questioning that is seeing the world differently from me.



Just conjecture, but lets say I flip town what then?

Then it's gg.

Why the appeal to emotion.

You think town try to emotionally blackmail people like this?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:30 GMT
#2107
On November 26 2013 16:20 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude yeah it's a closed setup. With cop and doctor, (again why doctor didn't die is more WIFOM -_-) millers are easily possible. But yeah, it's pretty strong indication...

Onegu are you against me voting you or are you exasperated?

Maybe skimming isn't the best thing let me really read stuff



Im exasperated, my own fault I cant convey my thoughts clearly, and I look scummy but I do in every town game I play, kinda why I joined a bootcamp game to get feedback, and then a red check on me I expect it to be believed. But then coupled with what I will say on cora later in my case and my green flip, if we dont get endgame with my flip I really still believe we can pull this out if town gets to day 4. Because it will be obvious cora is scum. Then I will spoiler the connections cora has with mocsta so you can add that to my case on mocsta, and when I flip please, please, please read it give it a chance and see where I am comeing from. If you actully read it and disagree with it fine but read it that is really all I ask. Of course this is assumeing we dont get endgame post.

K Onegu what you are doing I have seen before. And some sage put it to rest.

Here, I will paraphrase as it is a game in progress.

Your options are, if you are town:
1: push your own lynch, then have your confirmed reads given after another round of night kills with no certainty that you are right (unless it's that good; in which case)
2: give the reads+reasons now, and if they are really really good, people may listen now and not lynch you and possibly hit scum (because this list assumes you aren't, so it's a "duh" higher chance) and if they aren't, people will discuss them and maybe figure something out from the discussion
3: focus on defending, which may or may not work and leaves town with nothing after your flip.

Note, since 2 is the best option, I will have 4 be it's corruption:
4: you can give hostile reads and Rayne yourself, and even if your reads are good then because you didn't give them in a level headed manner nobody reads them even if you flip green or blue.

Of course if you are scum it doesn't matter and your team should just bus you now.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:32 GMT
#2108
On November 26 2013 16:24 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 16:19 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 12:51 Mocsta wrote:
So it's 5-3 and MYLO

Cora fake claim could be an awesome start to finish off the game but I prefer his play as town. And the sudden change on sciberbia does seem hard to fake.

I much prefer hf giving up and deciding to copy the blszinghand fake doc claim strat.
This buys them another cycle and possibly gets a mislynch.

Fact. Holyflare has nothing nothing all game.
Corazon has been present all cycles.

Yes scum is
Hf, onegu, chezinu


Mocsta nobody pushing Chezinu?

Please, bear in mind what I said of him.

Here's the problem
Bereft is townier than you or cheZ

If you want to stick up for chez, process of elimination leaves just you.

So whose scum: you or chezinu? Lol...

We can deal with this after the lynch.

As an aside. Chez replaced jampidampi. Did you read my jampi case?

Cos we know onegu hasn't (to comment on it as asked)

Well in that case fire away at Chezinu, but I have sorrow over it. But then, as scum he is probably crafty to answer my query.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:34 GMT
#2109
Its ok slam.

One scum at a time. Onegu first.

I'm having real trouble thinking you are scum. You actually sound like you are having fun and aren't spamming useless stuff.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:36 GMT
#2110
On November 26 2013 16:24 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 16:19 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 12:51 Mocsta wrote:
So it's 5-3 and MYLO

Cora fake claim could be an awesome start to finish off the game but I prefer his play as town. And the sudden change on sciberbia does seem hard to fake.

I much prefer hf giving up and deciding to copy the blszinghand fake doc claim strat.
This buys them another cycle and possibly gets a mislynch.

Fact. Holyflare has nothing nothing all game.
Corazon has been present all cycles.

Yes scum is
Hf, onegu, chezinu


Mocsta nobody pushing Chezinu?

Please, bear in mind what I said of him.

Here's the problem
Bereft is townier than you or cheZ

If you want to stick up for chez, process of elimination leaves just you.

So whose scum: you or chezinu? Lol...

We can deal with this after the lynch.

As an aside. Chez replaced jampidampi. Did you read my jampi case?

Cos we know onegu hasn't (to comment on it as asked)

And actually no, there is WIFOM. If this is a masterful Cora fake claim-

Oh wait then we lose because Cora is clairvoyant (XD) and will SVENGALI us to his victory. But remember, from my perspective if Chezinu isn't, you take my place... of course I know nothing of bereft so far, so maybe I would just disagree with you in general if Chezinu wasn't scum..
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:38 GMT
#2111
On November 26 2013 16:34 Mocsta wrote:
Its ok slam.

One scum at a time. Onegu first.

I'm having real trouble thinking you are scum. You actually sound like you are having fun and aren't spamming useless stuff.

It's just fresch aire, I'm getting pounded in two other games. I did an offsite replace, maybe wasn't smart...
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:46 GMT
#2112
Slam
Are you town?

Would you lie to me?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
November 26 2013 07:47 GMT
#2113
On November 26 2013 16:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 16:20 Onegu wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude yeah it's a closed setup. With cop and doctor, (again why doctor didn't die is more WIFOM -_-) millers are easily possible. But yeah, it's pretty strong indication...

Onegu are you against me voting you or are you exasperated?

Maybe skimming isn't the best thing let me really read stuff



Im exasperated, my own fault I cant convey my thoughts clearly, and I look scummy but I do in every town game I play, kinda why I joined a bootcamp game to get feedback, and then a red check on me I expect it to be believed. But then coupled with what I will say on cora later in my case and my green flip, if we dont get endgame with my flip I really still believe we can pull this out if town gets to day 4. Because it will be obvious cora is scum. Then I will spoiler the connections cora has with mocsta so you can add that to my case on mocsta, and when I flip please, please, please read it give it a chance and see where I am comeing from. If you actully read it and disagree with it fine but read it that is really all I ask. Of course this is assumeing we dont get endgame post.

K Onegu what you are doing I have seen before. And some sage put it to rest.

Here, I will paraphrase as it is a game in progress.

Your options are, if you are town:
1: push your own lynch, then have your confirmed reads given after another round of night kills with no certainty that you are right (unless it's that good; in which case)
2: give the reads+reasons now, and if they are really really good, people may listen now and not lynch you and possibly hit scum (because this list assumes you aren't, so it's a "duh" higher chance) and if they aren't, people will discuss them and maybe figure something out from the discussion
3: focus on defending, which may or may not work and leaves town with nothing after your flip.

Note, since 2 is the best option, I will have 4 be it's corruption:
4: you can give hostile reads and Rayne yourself, and even if your reads are good then because you didn't give them in a level headed manner nobody reads them even if you flip green or blue.

Of course if you are scum it doesn't matter and your team should just bus you now.



I will do two, and have been. Will give a cora case before lynch. I cannot do three because I know my town play doesnt look good and I wasnt active day one due to irl reasons, so I wont defend myself from a red check, I have addressed coras case on me and showed why it is incorrect.

About Jamps case I have to do some fact checking because iirc at the time when jamp said that he agreed I thought he was talking about someone elses point on aqua not thrawn. But I will also show cora does the same thing you are calling out jamp though. 2 times cora gives merit to a case but doesnt think it is a good time.

Also the held back part he isnt talking about aqua. He is talking out cora and scib. And then talking about consolidateing if he has to, he never takes back his read. Then he gives rayn a town read but votes his scum read in aqua. Help me with your thought process when I get back, Ill post my thoughts and concerns and you let me know in a bit.

Ill be back in a bit.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:50 GMT
#2114
On November 26 2013 16:46 Mocsta wrote:
Slam
Are you town?

Would you lie to me?

K

I have never understood why people ask this. No, Mocsta, I'm scum. I give up now because you asked. Because I would never lie to you.

???

What is expected from that question lol!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:51 GMT
#2115
The held back is rean talking about sciberbia.

Lol..

And no one ever called you scummy for being afk.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:52 GMT
#2116
On November 26 2013 16:47 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 16:30 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 16:20 Onegu wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Dude yeah it's a closed setup. With cop and doctor, (again why doctor didn't die is more WIFOM -_-) millers are easily possible. But yeah, it's pretty strong indication...

Onegu are you against me voting you or are you exasperated?

Maybe skimming isn't the best thing let me really read stuff



Im exasperated, my own fault I cant convey my thoughts clearly, and I look scummy but I do in every town game I play, kinda why I joined a bootcamp game to get feedback, and then a red check on me I expect it to be believed. But then coupled with what I will say on cora later in my case and my green flip, if we dont get endgame with my flip I really still believe we can pull this out if town gets to day 4. Because it will be obvious cora is scum. Then I will spoiler the connections cora has with mocsta so you can add that to my case on mocsta, and when I flip please, please, please read it give it a chance and see where I am comeing from. If you actully read it and disagree with it fine but read it that is really all I ask. Of course this is assumeing we dont get endgame post.

K Onegu what you are doing I have seen before. And some sage put it to rest.

Here, I will paraphrase as it is a game in progress.

Your options are, if you are town:
1: push your own lynch, then have your confirmed reads given after another round of night kills with no certainty that you are right (unless it's that good; in which case)
2: give the reads+reasons now, and if they are really really good, people may listen now and not lynch you and possibly hit scum (because this list assumes you aren't, so it's a "duh" higher chance) and if they aren't, people will discuss them and maybe figure something out from the discussion
3: focus on defending, which may or may not work and leaves town with nothing after your flip.

Note, since 2 is the best option, I will have 4 be it's corruption:
4: you can give hostile reads and Rayne yourself, and even if your reads are good then because you didn't give them in a level headed manner nobody reads them even if you flip green or blue.

Of course if you are scum it doesn't matter and your team should just bus you now.



I will do two, and have been. Will give a cora case before lynch. I cannot do three because I know my town play doesnt look good and I wasnt active day one due to irl reasons, so I wont defend myself from a red check, I have addressed coras case on me and showed why it is incorrect.

About Jamps case I have to do some fact checking because iirc at the time when jamp said that he agreed I thought he was talking about someone elses point on aqua not thrawn. But I will also show cora does the same thing you are calling out jamp though. 2 times cora gives merit to a case but doesnt think it is a good time.

Also the held back part he isnt talking about aqua. He is talking out cora and scib. And then talking about consolidateing if he has to, he never takes back his read. Then he gives rayn a town read but votes his scum read in aqua. Help me with your thought process when I get back, Ill post my thoughts and concerns and you let me know in a bit.

Ill be back in a bit.

Two is the only townie option anyway. But you are kind of doing one? Minus pushing yourself?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:52 GMT
#2117
On November 26 2013 16:50 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 16:46 Mocsta wrote:
Slam
Are you town?

Would you lie to me?

K

I have never understood why people ask this. No, Mocsta, I'm scum. I give up now because you asked. Because I would never lie to you.

???

What is expected from that question lol!

U gave the town response.

All is good in the word. Halle fucking lujah
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:53 GMT
#2118
Lol.. slam just mindfucked scum

Nice
Traplogix
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:54 GMT
#2119
X-May that if you come back with those reads before deadline.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 08:02 GMT
#2120
Actually that whole thing is Austinmcc, I think.

Remember I said it was from another game's drama that I learned. A daw may have Greek in it's bill.

Onegu is doing very nearly what another person is getting over doing- it was such a recent association, I did not forget.

So... No more me talking about games in progress!! >
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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