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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 06:46 GMT
#2081
On November 26 2013 15:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:37 Onegu wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:17 Mocsta wrote:
Wait a sec.

Why did you feel the need to add more?
That directly suggests you are creating a novel.

You sold this case as a post by post analysis, so why break out of this pattern to strengthen a point??



Im not, all of that I posted makes you scum, this is one of the strongest points though. I believe all of my case points to you being scum. But this point is the nail imo.

Your strongest point is that I called out a scumslip in the first hour of the day?

Is this what you want me to take at face value?


No my strongest point was the jamp thing.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 06:47 GMT
#2082
On November 26 2013 13:49 cDgCorazon wrote:
Also, the fact that Mocsta is still alive basically means HF/Onegu are scum.

Scenarios: HF/Onegu are town, scum would kill Mocsta to have us mislynch one of them

HF/Onegu are town, scum would not kill Mocsta would be a bad play b/c Mocsta is a great analysis player and has no pressure from anyone outside of HF/Onegu

HF/Onegu are scum, they kill Mocsta and expose themselves as scum because they've tunneled a townie the whole game and are out of reads

HF/Onegu are scum, they let Mocsta live so they can continue to tunnel him and fake activity/scumhunting

It's the last one. HF/Onegu have put all of their eggs in the Mocsta basket and forces them to keep him alive

@Alakaslam:
You seem to understand Chezinu's dialect of English- is there anything magical that he has said that looks townie to you?

Yes this was the one that jumped out at me, GUYS- DO NOT LYNCH CHEZINU.

Look at what Thrawn said about him, I can't remember- basically, he is our strongest asset if he is with us. I gave him a huge novel to read as a private question, so 1: butt out and 2: WAIT. I want to see his reply.

Chezinu, I have an idea so that you don't need to go through Coag who may not have much time. I will put WriteCraft in a spoiler.

I need to make sure with Coag though.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 06:49 GMT
#2083
Oh you were talking about you saying scumslips, and then calling out HF for seeing scum slips. Yeah I pointed out everything, and you saying that is being a hypocrite and normally I assoiate that with scum, sure town can do that also but people needed to see you did it.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:52 GMT
#2084
On November 26 2013 15:45 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
Why is holyflare off this list.

He buses as scum. Why can't he be riding your cases to earn town cred.

Why is his dubious timing if the doc claim ignored.

Why so double standard?

Why are you writing novels?



True HF busses, He didnt just ride my cases he has added points, And now we are in mylo I am trying to give the scum team now as I will be lynched today. As I said rean would be the last person I voted, also as I said earlier if we get down to only one scum left and HF the claimed doctor is still alive then he really should be looked at, until there is only one scum left I read town on HF. If there is only one scum left and it is mylo or lylo and they left the claimed doctor alive until only one scum left the I could see him being scum. But only at that point, unless that happens my read goes to rean.

Lol.. that doesn't answer the question at all.

Why do you treat holyflare town for dubious claim timing, and treat Corazon opposite for the same dubious timing.

In your case against me you think I do this to jampi, and this are scummy.

So tables are turned.. why onegu?

Further the above doesn't explain why holy is town, if anything it sounds lime he is town by Poe.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 06:53 GMT
#2085
Slam I have a red check, do you believe it or not, vote me if you believe and then vote for 24 hour day as the red check will be all anyone really talks about except HF being scum with me as you can see.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 06:53 GMT
#2086
On November 26 2013 15:44 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
Slam. Come join us bud !!

Fwiw I hope you are here still too!

I am
In OP

Scum can delay kp .. so have 0 kp night1 and shoot twice night2

Ok. Even more my point then, see if they had 2kp normally this makes actually it still doesn't make sense. If they were blue hunting and wanted to make sure Cora woulda 100% died. Either they weren't here or were thinking doc stuff? But why wouldn't they consolidate the shot either way.

I am wifoming myself here. I begin to think the Thrawn kill was significant though because I'm looking at Chezinu. But that still doesn't make sense because they would kill me. Or maybe they disagree with Cora :s

K what else do we have though. Why is Chezinu scum so quickly to others ?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:54 GMT
#2087
On November 26 2013 15:49 Onegu wrote:
Oh you were talking about you saying scumslips, and then calling out HF for seeing scum slips. Yeah I pointed out everything, and you saying that is being a hypocrite and normally I assoiate that with scum, sure town can do that also but people needed to see you did it.

Need to see.. lol.. for what reason

Filler content?

It's obvious now, and was obvious then it meant nothing
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 06:55 GMT
#2088
On November 26 2013 15:53 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:44 Mocsta wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
Slam. Come join us bud !!

Fwiw I hope you are here still too!

I am
In OP

Scum can delay kp .. so have 0 kp night1 and shoot twice night2

Ok. Even more my point then, see if they had 2kp normally this makes actually it still doesn't make sense. If they were blue hunting and wanted to make sure Cora woulda 100% died. Either they weren't here or were thinking doc stuff? But why wouldn't they consolidate the shot either way.

I am wifoming myself here. I begin to think the Thrawn kill was significant though because I'm looking at Chezinu. But that still doesn't make sense because they would kill me. Or maybe they disagree with Cora :s

K what else do we have though. Why is Chezinu scum so quickly to others ?

How much of the thread have you read.. I can't follow where you ate coming from, because I dont know how much u might be missing.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 06:56 GMT
#2089
On November 26 2013 15:53 Onegu wrote:
Slam I have a red check, do you believe it or not, vote me if you believe and then vote for 24 hour day as the red check will be all anyone really talks about except HF being scum with me as you can see.

...

If I missed it you want me to see?

What?

... Ok WIFOM are you related to Risen? Thanks I guess? Or NSAM? What are you trying to accomplish lol

A check is strong indication, but it isn't proof... Unless, let me reread the op
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 26 2013 06:59 GMT
#2090
On November 26 2013 15:52 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:45 Onegu wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
Why is holyflare off this list.

He buses as scum. Why can't he be riding your cases to earn town cred.

Why is his dubious timing if the doc claim ignored.

Why so double standard?

Why are you writing novels?



True HF busses, He didnt just ride my cases he has added points, And now we are in mylo I am trying to give the scum team now as I will be lynched today. As I said rean would be the last person I voted, also as I said earlier if we get down to only one scum left and HF the claimed doctor is still alive then he really should be looked at, until there is only one scum left I read town on HF. If there is only one scum left and it is mylo or lylo and they left the claimed doctor alive until only one scum left the I could see him being scum. But only at that point, unless that happens my read goes to rean.

Lol.. that doesn't answer the question at all.

Why do you treat holyflare town for dubious claim timing, and treat Corazon opposite for the same dubious timing.

In your case against me you think I do this to jampi, and this are scummy.

So tables are turned.. why onegu?

Further the above doesn't explain why holy is town, if anything it sounds lime he is town by Poe.



No I didnt say HF is town because of his claim timeing, I think its null, but I point out coras for 2 reasons, 1 a cop check can be messed with via framer, and 2 if I was scum and he was going to cop check me and I knew I would flip red why not kill him, he has been just as active if not more active than thrawn and aqua, why not the claimed blue who was going to have a red check on me.

Look I gave my scumteam, if somehow we get to lylo with one scum alive and the claimed doctor is still alive at that point yes he becomes scummy, until that happens I have a town read on him.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 06:59 GMT
#2091
Dude yeah it's a closed setup. With cop and doctor, (again why doctor didn't die is more WIFOM -_-) millers are easily possible. But yeah, it's pretty strong indication...

Onegu are you against me voting you or are you exasperated?

Maybe skimming isn't the best thing let me really read stuff
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:01 GMT
#2092
Onegu
Let me get this straight.

You want me to believe that Corazon had the grandeur to plan this fake claim night 1.. hence explaining his immediate change in opinion to sciberbia and thus putting himself at the end of night 2 to set you up for MYLO?

And then. You want me to believe holyflare did not fake claim to avoid being lynched. instead he did not put a save on the most obvious night kill choice?

Is this correct?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:03 GMT
#2093
On November 26 2013 15:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:52 Mocsta wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:45 Onegu wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:36 Mocsta wrote:
Why is holyflare off this list.

He buses as scum. Why can't he be riding your cases to earn town cred.

Why is his dubious timing if the doc claim ignored.

Why so double standard?

Why are you writing novels?



True HF busses, He didnt just ride my cases he has added points, And now we are in mylo I am trying to give the scum team now as I will be lynched today. As I said rean would be the last person I voted, also as I said earlier if we get down to only one scum left and HF the claimed doctor is still alive then he really should be looked at, until there is only one scum left I read town on HF. If there is only one scum left and it is mylo or lylo and they left the claimed doctor alive until only one scum left the I could see him being scum. But only at that point, unless that happens my read goes to rean.

Lol.. that doesn't answer the question at all.

Why do you treat holyflare town for dubious claim timing, and treat Corazon opposite for the same dubious timing.

In your case against me you think I do this to jampi, and this are scummy.

So tables are turned.. why onegu?

Further the above doesn't explain why holy is town, if anything it sounds lime he is town by Poe.



No I didnt say HF is town because of his claim timeing, I think its null, but I point out coras for 2 reasons, 1 a cop check can be messed with via framer, and 2 if I was scum and he was going to cop check me and I knew I would flip red why not kill him, he has been just as active if not more active than thrawn and aqua, why not the claimed blue who was going to have a red check on me.

Look I gave my scumteam, if somehow we get to lylo with one scum alive and the claimed doctor is still alive at that point yes he becomes scummy, until that happens I have a town read on him.
why not kill him??

Notice that you.. chezinu.. holy were not posting in the thread at cycle end.

It's equally wifom to state you did not see the claim lol...

Stop with the Strawman arguments and start playing the game.

Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:04 GMT
#2094
On November 26 2013 15:55 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:44 Mocsta wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
Slam. Come join us bud !!

Fwiw I hope you are here still too!

I am
In OP

Scum can delay kp .. so have 0 kp night1 and shoot twice night2

Ok. Even more my point then, see if they had 2kp normally this makes actually it still doesn't make sense. If they were blue hunting and wanted to make sure Cora woulda 100% died. Either they weren't here or were thinking doc stuff? But why wouldn't they consolidate the shot either way.

I am wifoming myself here. I begin to think the Thrawn kill was significant though because I'm looking at Chezinu. But that still doesn't make sense because they would kill me. Or maybe they disagree with Cora :s

K what else do we have though. Why is Chezinu scum so quickly to others ?

How much of the thread have you read.. I can't follow where you ate coming from, because I dont know how much u might be missing.

I am missing everything before I replaced. Today was busy and I looked at LXIII and also I'm not wholly caught up on current events. Also, I like how Chezinu is approaching his replace, seeing what people do NOW and determining who is what. Reads that don't make any sense will be criticized, and old info will be brought back by others.

This way, we don't fall back and can still be useful.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:10 GMT
#2095
On November 26 2013 16:04 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 15:55 Mocsta wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:44 Mocsta wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
Slam. Come join us bud !!

Fwiw I hope you are here still too!

I am
In OP

Scum can delay kp .. so have 0 kp night1 and shoot twice night2

Ok. Even more my point then, see if they had 2kp normally this makes actually it still doesn't make sense. If they were blue hunting and wanted to make sure Cora woulda 100% died. Either they weren't here or were thinking doc stuff? But why wouldn't they consolidate the shot either way.

I am wifoming myself here. I begin to think the Thrawn kill was significant though because I'm looking at Chezinu. But that still doesn't make sense because they would kill me. Or maybe they disagree with Cora :s

K what else do we have though. Why is Chezinu scum so quickly to others ?

How much of the thread have you read.. I can't follow where you ate coming from, because I dont know how much u might be missing.

I am missing everything before I replaced. Today was busy and I looked at LXIII and also I'm not wholly caught up on current events. Also, I like how Chezinu is approaching his replace, seeing what people do NOW and determining who is what. Reads that don't make any sense will be criticized, and old info will be brought back by others.

This way, we don't fall back and can still be useful.
do you realise that no one is actually pushing chezinu?

It's onegu vs Corazon
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:14 GMT
#2096
I still don't get why two claimed blues both survived though. I'm not so much worried about Cora as HolyFlare.

I don't care if scum sent their pm at the start of the night and were gone, HF had claimed. There was no reason not to shoot HF. That might be exactly what they want me to think, but it seems most people have Holyflare as scummy nonetheless. Is HF scummy for no other reason than his claim?

Of course in the event he is doctor that is a really stupid lynch.

Yeah. I threw my thoughts Down making this post and so you can read my conclusion forming before your eyes! XD

##Vote: Onegu
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:15 GMT
#2097
On November 26 2013 16:10 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2013 16:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:55 Mocsta wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:53 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:44 Mocsta wrote:
On November 26 2013 15:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 26 2013 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
Slam. Come join us bud !!

Fwiw I hope you are here still too!

I am
In OP

Scum can delay kp .. so have 0 kp night1 and shoot twice night2

Ok. Even more my point then, see if they had 2kp normally this makes actually it still doesn't make sense. If they were blue hunting and wanted to make sure Cora woulda 100% died. Either they weren't here or were thinking doc stuff? But why wouldn't they consolidate the shot either way.

I am wifoming myself here. I begin to think the Thrawn kill was significant though because I'm looking at Chezinu. But that still doesn't make sense because they would kill me. Or maybe they disagree with Cora :s

K what else do we have though. Why is Chezinu scum so quickly to others ?

How much of the thread have you read.. I can't follow where you ate coming from, because I dont know how much u might be missing.

I am missing everything before I replaced. Today was busy and I looked at LXIII and also I'm not wholly caught up on current events. Also, I like how Chezinu is approaching his replace, seeing what people do NOW and determining who is what. Reads that don't make any sense will be criticized, and old info will be brought back by others.

This way, we don't fall back and can still be useful.
do you realise that no one is actually pushing chezinu?

It's onegu vs Corazon

Last I was in the thread people were saying he was scum claiming with Scib, which makes no sense in light of other things, but Cora had him on a scum list and as cop how he reads the game is critical.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:16 GMT
#2098
Dude Cora is so town. anyone questioning that is seeing the world differently from me.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 26 2013 07:17 GMT
#2099
##unvote
##vote: onegu


Let me know when you are ready to continue battling.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 26 2013 07:19 GMT
#2100
On November 26 2013 12:51 Mocsta wrote:
So it's 5-3 and MYLO

Cora fake claim could be an awesome start to finish off the game but I prefer his play as town. And the sudden change on sciberbia does seem hard to fake.

I much prefer hf giving up and deciding to copy the blszinghand fake doc claim strat.
This buys them another cycle and possibly gets a mislynch.

Fact. Holyflare has nothing nothing all game.
Corazon has been present all cycles.

Yes scum is
Hf, onegu, chezinu


Mocsta nobody pushing Chezinu?

Please, bear in mind what I said of him.
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