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TheChyz
Canada238 Posts
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
onlywonderboy (1): TheChyz dnyarri (6): chinstrap, Balla24, BigDad, sidesprang, Not voting (3): Asuna, onlywonderboy, dnyarri Currently, dnyarri is set to be lynched. Deadline is Friday, Jan 10 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! If there are errors, please let us know. | ||
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chinstrap
United Kingdom253 Posts
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
While this is a negative statement against Derrida it's hardly pushing him very hard. Could easily be a weak read to just to build cred if Derrida ever flipped scum (although I doubt the scum team expected it to come so soon) I also don't think his main theory of Asuna/dnyarri/Derrida is super solid. It revolves heavily around the idea of Derrida leaving out Asuana and dnyarri from his initial reads. I just can't imagine a scum player purposely leaving BOTH of his partners off of a list. It's so suspicious and something people could easily find. If that's what actually happened that might be the worst mafia play I've seen in all my newb games. If we are less certain about dnyarri being scum I'm fine with finding a new target, but at this point even if we lynch him we find out a lot of information regardless of how he flips. This is OWB's most recent post after I posted my case on him. Again, going by my read on him, he's still not making strong statements and is being wishy-washy with his opinions. "If we are less certain about dnyarri being scum I'm fine with finding a new target" says to me, "I don't want to make a decision on who to lynch so I'll just follow what people think." I think it's really suspicious that up to now, OWB has not made a single strong case on anyone, and I feel this fits more with his scum meta than town meta. His defense on Derrida definitely reads like a scum trying to save his buddy from being lynched. He also did not respond to my post on him at all. I would have expected a townie OWB to respond to the accusations in some way, and there is definite scum motivation for trying to ignore pressure and hope it goes away. Instead, he just pushes some flimsy reads and calls it a day. If Derrida wasn't NK'd last night, they may have been planning to run a defensive line such as 'Why would scum make a case against Jonny and Balla and then shoot them? This doesn't make sense, therefore Derrida could not have known what the night shot was going to be - hence he is bad townie." Then if OWB+Derrida push a mislynch today, they are in a very good position on Day 3 with 4 town and 0 scum dead. ##unvote ##vote: OnlyWonderBoy | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
onlywonderboy (3): TheChyz, chinstrap, suki dnyarri (4): Not voting (3): Asuna, onlywonderboy, dnyarri Currently, dnyarri is set to be lynched. Deadline is Friday, Jan 10 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! If there are errors, please let us know. | ||
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
Also, dnyarri: Please give us your opinion on OnlyWonderBoy. Asuna: Your thoughts on the dnyarri/OWB discussion as well. Also you need to vote someone. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
In summary: 1. Lazy scumhunting 2. Strange wording when discussing dnyarri. Disappears for the rest of the day as if the lynch was in the bag. 3. No defense. 4. Weak defense of Derrida last night, seemed a bit surprised that he died. ##unvote ##vote Onlywonderboy | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
I also took note of the post you are refering to, and find it somewhat wierd. Tho my thoughts where more that why would he say those things about Derrida if town allready moved past ? Unless he knew derrida was scum and he went overly defensive about it. I read up on a few of his old games: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102&user=onlywonderboy¤tpage=3 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430766&user=onlywonderboy I do feel his scumgame resembles this game more than his towngame. Tho I might just see what I want to see, so if someone else can also take a look at it, that would be nice. Also you played with him before Balla could you give some more insight since you were in those games. I feel he is more passive and talks about non reads stuff in his scum game, which I also feel he has been doing to some extent here. And in his town game he seems to be tring a lot more to find scum. Also if you check his profile you can see he is active here on TL.net. So why is he not posting more ? | ||
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Balla24
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Balla24
2322 Posts
On January 10 2014 16:46 Day_Walker wrote: Oh somehow I had it in my mind that BigDad voted for Dragoon first lynch. My bad. Since dnyarri has such a big target painted on him today, I wasn't putting much weight on the fact that BigDad has his vote on dnyarri right now. Right now I expect scum would be trying to put some of the heat on townies. Right now from my point of view, OWB is doing this. He is doing something that would make sense for scum to do. Of course it is totally possible that OWB it town, and its not a particularly strong argument for OWB scum even from my perspective. It's weird that when I share my thoughts about someone, I include both sides I see, even the side that I ultimately disfavor? Day_walker I really don't understand this and your following posts. OWB is very clearly scum in your eyes, yet somehow you decide to vote DNYARRI still even though OWB is voting for him. Then in your following post you take the exact same position as OWB and even point out how uneasy it makes you. Yet you do it anyways. It's also really annoying that you didn't vote last night, definitely should have showed your vote. | ||
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Balla24
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Day_Walker
104 Posts
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Deleted User 323385
41 Posts
I think onlywonderboy is certainly good candidate for lynching. onlywonderboy hasn't been around here to help find scum and only voted for me, which doesn't tell much since I have been safe bandwagon pick for some time. After comparing onlywonderboy's scum play, town play and current play, I think that onlywonderboy's current play resembles more their earlier scum play. I guess that we will hear more from onlywonderboy before night since onlywonderboy is getting more and more votes which can't be ignored. I'll read those answers when they appear and decide whether I vote against onlywonderboy or not. In order to save myself I should probably vote against onlywonderboy anyway though. Note that I'm still suspicious of Day_Walker after Day_Walker's last post. Balla24 already mentioned some inconsistencies. Here's something else said by Day_Walker: Also I'm starting to be bothered by the fact that if I assume dnyarri scum, there is no clear candidate for the remaining scum. And, if we assume dnyarri town, then the most suspicious looking people are me, OWB, and BigDad. So why do you Day_Walker still vote against me if you think that me being scum wouldn't give clear scum candidates? I think that would suggest that I'm either SK or townie. Note: I don't believe that both Day_Walker and onlywonderboy are scum since onlywonderboy has made some posts that are somewhat critical of Day_Walker but I still consider it as a possibility. So currently I suspect onlywonderboy little bit more than Day_Walker. | ||
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Balla24
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Deleted User 323385
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TheChyz
Canada238 Posts
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Balla24
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Day_Walker
104 Posts
So I think I need to retract my position that dnyarri is a strong lynch candidate, and if OWB flips scum then dnyarri actually looks quite town (based on OWB's day one vote). | ||
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Day_Walker
104 Posts
On January 11 2014 02:33 TheChyz wrote: DW, do you still think dnyarri is also scum, why or why not? | ||
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