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probuLing
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States75 Posts
January 05 2014 22:34 GMT
#241
On January 06 2014 07:33 Balla24 wrote:
@Asuna Hihi~

Considering you are a new comer, what is your experience with this game? Is this your first time, how did you get into it etc..

I've played mafia before, but it's just the vanilla irl version, not with these roles.
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chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 05 2014 22:34 GMT
#242
On January 06 2014 07:29 Balla24 wrote:
Who's gonna help me create a tough environment for mafia to hide in & help me lynch some mafia? If so, how do you suggest we proceed in day 1?

My top priorities are

- to start the game at a very high pace, to make sure that lurking is not only discouraged but also easy to spot and call out.
- immediately start some conversation by having some arguments (this is where its a bit tricky), we need people to fos right away when they feel off about somebody so that we can start reading each other.


Sounds like overeager towncred grabbing scum play to me.

##Vote: Balla24
TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
January 05 2014 22:35 GMT
#243
I agree with lurking to be discouraged by just lynching them for the most part. If they are scum then that's an easy kill, if they are town they provide nothing helpful and might cause some confusion in finding actual scum.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 05 2014 22:37 GMT
#244
So like, have you played a lot or have you watched/read any games before this?
probuLing
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States75 Posts
January 05 2014 22:38 GMT
#245
On January 06 2014 07:37 Balla24 wrote:
So like, have you played a lot or have you watched/read any games before this?

I played a few times irl but I haven't watched/read any of these games.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 05 2014 22:38 GMT
#246
On January 06 2014 07:34 chinstrap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 07:29 Balla24 wrote:
Who's gonna help me create a tough environment for mafia to hide in & help me lynch some mafia? If so, how do you suggest we proceed in day 1?

My top priorities are

- to start the game at a very high pace, to make sure that lurking is not only discouraged but also easy to spot and call out.
- immediately start some conversation by having some arguments (this is where its a bit tricky), we need people to fos right away when they feel off about somebody so that we can start reading each other.


Sounds like overeager towncred grabbing scum play to me.

##Vote: Balla24

I think you might be jumping the gun a little bit on this one. Don't get me wrong, Balla plays a scary mafia because he looks town almost the entire game, but in the game he was town he was very active and led the town by making lots and lots of posts. So his MO is always being active regardless of alignment.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 05 2014 22:42 GMT
#247
On January 06 2014 07:38 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 07:34 chinstrap wrote:
On January 06 2014 07:29 Balla24 wrote:
Who's gonna help me create a tough environment for mafia to hide in & help me lynch some mafia? If so, how do you suggest we proceed in day 1?

My top priorities are

- to start the game at a very high pace, to make sure that lurking is not only discouraged but also easy to spot and call out.
- immediately start some conversation by having some arguments (this is where its a bit tricky), we need people to fos right away when they feel off about somebody so that we can start reading each other.


Sounds like overeager towncred grabbing scum play to me.

##Vote: Balla24

I think you might be jumping the gun a little bit on this one. Don't get me wrong, Balla plays a scary mafia because he looks town almost the entire game, but in the game he was town he was very active and led the town by making lots and lots of posts. So his MO is always being active regardless of alignment.


I appreciate the defense but... he's IC he can do whatever he wants including mess around... Instead of trying to pocket me let's hear how you're gonna help me achieve my goals of catching scum
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 05 2014 22:44 GMT
#248
@Asuna how do you feel about TheChyz's entry post?
TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
January 05 2014 22:47 GMT
#249
Why so eager to have people help you achieve your goals? Maybe they don't agree with them. If onlywonderboy is right, then your rules help you if you are scum as well since you seem to be very active in which lynching lurkers would help your cause of staying alive. Also having people fight can cause confusion in the town. So I don't see a reason why people should just help you achieve your goals.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 05 2014 22:54 GMT
#250
I don't feel like the IC should just have free reign to mess around. We know he's not scum but I still felt the need to say why his read may be off. I know you're all about hunting scum, but there's value in not sparking early suspicion on people who may be town.

My main goal this game is to be more active and contribute meaningful analysis to the town. This may seem basic, but I've failed at it the last couple games so I'm hoping to actually follow through with it this time.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
probuLing
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States75 Posts
January 05 2014 22:55 GMT
#251
On January 06 2014 07:44 Balla24 wrote:
@Asuna how do you feel about TheChyz's entry post?

If you mean the one that's basically kill the quiet people, sounds like every mafia game I've ever played.
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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 05 2014 22:55 GMT
#252
You must of misunderstood me... "my goals of catching scum" not specifically my OWN priorities. I'm fine with others having their own priorities, but overall this game is about catching scum.

Another point, i'm not active in lynching lurkers, that's not what he said and its not what I said. My goal is to create an environment where it's HARD to survive as a lurker, that is, a very active game where the lurker #s are down very very low and are easy to single out. If it comes to the point where i have to lynch a lurker because there's no better lynch I will but that is not my priority.
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
January 05 2014 22:59 GMT
#253
On January 06 2014 07:55 Balla24 wrote:
You must of misunderstood me... "my goals of catching scum" not specifically my OWN priorities. I'm fine with others having their own priorities, but overall this game is about catching scum.

Another point, i'm not active in lynching lurkers, that's not what he said and its not what I said. My goal is to create an environment where it's HARD to survive as a lurker, that is, a very active game where the lurker #s are down very very low and are easy to single out. If it comes to the point where i have to lynch a lurker because there's no better lynch I will but that is not my priority.


I was mid drafting a post very similar to your second paragraph but the NFL playoffs can be distracting.

Anti lurking environment is great, randomly policy lynching lurkers is not.

However a policy debate is also highly distracting. So lets get past that and concentrate on finding dem sucummers.

Ps. I never mess around!
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 05 2014 23:02 GMT
#254
On January 06 2014 07:55 Asuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 07:44 Balla24 wrote:
@Asuna how do you feel about TheChyz's entry post?

If you mean the one that's basically kill the quiet people, sounds like every mafia game I've ever played.


I'm just trying to gauge how people play... it's certainly pretty generic and you can't read to deep into it. But some people would analyze it very hard.

For example: He seems to be agreeing with something that nobody said, which hints that he wasn't carefully reading ("I agree with lurking to be discouraged by just lynching them for the most part")
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 05 2014 23:06 GMT
#255
On January 06 2014 07:47 TheChyz wrote:
Also having people fight can cause confusion in the town.


What did you mean by this?
TheChyz
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada238 Posts
January 05 2014 23:08 GMT
#256
On January 06 2014 07:29 Balla24 wrote:
- to start the game at a very high pace, to make sure that lurking is not only discouraged but also easy to spot and call out.


On January 06 2014 07:35 TheChyz wrote:
I agree with lurking to be discouraged by just lynching them for the most part. If they are scum then that's an easy kill, if they are town they provide nothing helpful and might cause some confusion in finding actual scum.


Hi "nobody", I'm TheChyz.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 05 2014 23:09 GMT
#257
"By just lynching them" that's the important part.
sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
January 05 2014 23:10 GMT
#258
On January 06 2014 07:47 TheChyz wrote:
Why so eager to have people help you achieve your goals? Maybe they don't agree with them. If onlywonderboy is right, then your rules help you if you are scum as well since you seem to be very active in which lynching lurkers would help your cause of staying alive. Also having people fight can cause confusion in the town. So I don't see a reason why people should just help you achieve your goals.



You don't see a reason why people should help Bella with creating a "tough environment for mafia to hide in and lynch some mafia" ?
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
January 05 2014 23:11 GMT
#259
offtopic

+ Show Spoiler +
Here we go with this Bella stuff again ^_^, it's Balla and I am male, let's nip that right in the butt
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 05 2014 23:13 GMT
#260
On January 06 2014 07:59 chinstrap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2014 07:55 Balla24 wrote:
You must of misunderstood me... "my goals of catching scum" not specifically my OWN priorities. I'm fine with others having their own priorities, but overall this game is about catching scum.

Another point, i'm not active in lynching lurkers, that's not what he said and its not what I said. My goal is to create an environment where it's HARD to survive as a lurker, that is, a very active game where the lurker #s are down very very low and are easy to single out. If it comes to the point where i have to lynch a lurker because there's no better lynch I will but that is not my priority.


I was mid drafting a post very similar to your second paragraph but the NFL playoffs can be distracting.

Anti lurking environment is great, randomly policy lynching lurkers is not.

However a policy debate is also highly distracting. So lets get past that and concentrate on finding dem sucummers.

Ps. I never mess around!

Are policy debates generally considered to be distracting? I find analyzing people's opinions on policy and trying to find scum based on that more productive than just lynching lurkers.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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