EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 8
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On November 18 2013 07:12 yamato77 wrote: who do you think is town and why? I'm really lost. I can question almost all of my townreads and I hate games like this. Lynch BH, then lynch Vayne. Good follow-up so far. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:32 yamato77 wrote: Why do you like my follow up when I think the guy you voted for is scummy and I think Vayne is town? Did you even read my posts? I'm talking about me I like my own plan for tommorow and the day after. I think you're wrong about SS and in fact know you're wrong after talking to him in Mason. And whenever you think Vayne is town he's scum and whenever you think he's scum he's town. Vayne is playing too passive this game and while he does that as scum, he's also not really pushing anyone while previously his posts would help guide people. This time he's just giving reflectful commentary. | ||
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The fact he's just started to get really active at night doesn't prove anything actually. Scum or town BH would start being active now. Instead it's more important to realize he has been effectively afk during the thread with no real thread presence except defending himself and that is pretty unacceptable. His tracker claim is absoltely awful play as town and okay play as scum. He varies between being active and always posting whenever he's mentioned and then not posting at all besides. Which is pretty suspicious to me. While I'll agree the claim makes sense compared to his previous crumbs, he claimed 6 hours before mayor lynch would even be decided. Which doesn't make sense from a town perspective who wants to win, who wouldn't claim a blue role unless he was then going to do something with it. BH claimed tracker and then didn't do anything with it except with his defense. This contrasts with his Heavyweight claim where he did claim early(did he? Can't remember how early) and then he pushed and used his town prescence to get a scum claim. BH's claim doesn't make sense from a town perspective. Him defending his claim actually makes it twice as worse. He comes back night one and then has a scum read on Grack. Great. okay | ||
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This is unacceptable and is also a pretty good lynch. Don't say that this is always Stutters play because he played damn better in ##. And he said he was going to lurk alot in his scum game with me when we were both scum. The part for BH that I can't get over is that he justifies his claim which is the main force certifying my scum read of him. | ||
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Blazinghand is tracker and claims tracker -Reveals he is tracker -Invites him to be roleblocked and cause the second most important blue role to be roleblocked -Invites a kill on him at night If it was last minute, alright. Even last hour maybe if Yamato was in the lead. However Yamato was ahead by one vote, in fact BH didn't read this but actually a minute before BH claimed VE was in the lead by one vote. This was also 6 hours before and there was really no certainty that Yamato was going to be mayor. Please address this BH if you want. Conclusion if town: Poor play, town but didn't think it through BH is town, not tracker, claims tracker -Manages to get Yamato/others off his ass -Gets town cred and is town(although it's misleading town cred) -Has to justify it later but w/e king of shenanies. -Invites mafia roleblocks/kills on a non-important role. However this is poor play because it invites the real tracker to then claim in thread which would be absolutely awful because then mafia would know that is the true tracker. Conclusion: Good claim but with terrible drawback that could lead to clusterfuck Because of this, it is undeniable poor play and a bad claim. I would understand if BH made a mistake because it seems a BH thing to do. However the fact he still stands by his claim really makes him scum in my eyes because he's trying to justify poor play when it's objectively bad play. There are no good reasons. Blazinghand is thus mafia justifying a poor claim. I'm attributing this to him pulling a shennanie akin to the wrestling mafia game, and it's backfired. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote: can you link to where he said that? Can't find it in my QT so maybe I'm confusing him with another person. Even if I was mafia though I wouldn't purposely spout lies. Still makes his play unacceptable with a meta slight confirmation in my favor when you compare his play with ## | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:40 austinmcc wrote: I remain curious about this. We don't know if there IS a tracker. If there is a tracker, we don't know how many. (1) Why does there have to be a tracker? (2) Why would some other tracker claim, given that setup is semi-open, and he doesn't know how many trackers there are? (3) IF there could only be one tracker, and BH claims tracker, why would the real tracker claim? Doesn't he believe now that BH is scum for fakeclaiming? Why does he reveal himself as a tracker when he COULD just call BH scum, get people to try and lynch BH (because let's be honest, BH hadn't done anything that really made him look super townie)? 1.If you don't think there's a tracker when masons stack with other roles and there are 30 people...; I mean it's possible but very unlikely esp. since suicide bomber would invite roles like tracker existing 2. It's poor play but people do it all the time. See doctors counterclaiming doctors and roles counterclaiming roles. Hell I did it but it was okay because Mason is less important. If BH has your mindset, then it's even worse play as town because it doesn't really confirm him and yet better play as scum because no one will counter-claim. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:40 Pandain wrote: Can't find it in my QT so maybe I'm confusing him with another person. Even if I was mafia though I wouldn't purposely spout lies. Still makes his play unacceptable with a meta slight confirmation in my favor when you compare his play with ## cooperative how. Maybe I'll switch to Vayne or Stutters. | ||
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I think it's impossible BH is tracker. And a town BH claiming does invite other people claiming I'm sorry but that is a fact and BH has played enough games to know that. And why would he fake-claim to get people off of his back when there are better ways (aka using a vote on VE, arguing for VE). I don't like how he's been active but poorly active throughout day one, and he's had time to play and yet played like he didn't. It's easy for a busy scum to justify his play by being busy; it's remarkable how town who are busy still have ways to contribute | ||
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His responses have not been in his favor. Didn't rayn make a fake-claim as scum in witchcraft? Haven't you guys learned? | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:56 OOHCHILD wrote: woulld scum bh really fake claim tracker? seems unlikely I'm sure scum BH would love fake-claiming tracker as scum he would be the first person to do such a thing. | ||
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On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote: I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it. I am the cop. Woah what is this I wondered what he turned hmmm | ||
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Comes in halfway through, does typical RNG shit, runs for mayor, that's it. Then has a scum read on Grack. ok | ||
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