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On November 16 2013 14:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
something that immediately jumps out to me in your notes as a "townslip" would be that you have lonemeow as town just because he claimed mason. There are scum masons in this game. I feel like you would know this if you are scum.

On November 16 2013 14:13 Holyflare wrote:



I honestly have no idea how this argument keeps getting used IN FAVOUR of LM. He's contributed jack shit, his only posts in the mason chat are asking what yamato thinks about rayn. This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum. He comes into the QT, asks what he should do with his power and asks who he should focus on. His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... despite him knowing the playstyles of other people (both factions) whereas he only knows one playstyle of yamato's, his reason for doing it? He picked a random person on the player list.... His only participation in this thread is shock at storrzerg being new/not new. Congratulations, he's in the background again.

As far as this little gem that I've seen:



Risen, you quite clearly know that this wasn't the only post that BH did in WHC so why does it not phase you that his content thus far has been utterly appalling? BH in WHC was shaparoning, giving reads, solving things and eventually got us to lynch your scum partner. Does this really look like the same BH to you?

On November 16 2013 03:50 Spaghetticus wrote:
I’m comfortable with confirming Yamato town. This may seem redundant since that’s the general consensus, but I’m very stringent so this is actually a pretty big step.

On my next readthrough I’ll be fine tooth combing for Mocsta and VE. I’ve got precious history with Mocsta, but he’s also quite active. I want to confirm him town if possible. VE seems like the next most obvious, given the amount of material he has provided. I don’t like some of VE’s towncalls, but I think they’ve already been covered by others.

LoneMeow masoning incident:
I find this unsuspicious. I’m probably more interested in those who tried to force this to be an issue.

Artanis and SS:
SS seems dense. The projected paradigm within which he claims to view the world where everyone’s decision making is based entirely on the single factor of whether or not victory is achieved, is silly.

Does he seriously expect people to sit through a month of his needless abuse in order to slightly increase their chances of winning a prizeless endeavour?

Does he seriously think that by espousing his (so far generally unimpressive) logic to the exclusion of compromise in the pursuit of cooperation, he will achieve his intended position of mayor?

I understand that some people have difficulty getting along with others, but it seems to me a cover. I’d like to hear people’s thoughts on his meta. For someone who proclaims his own competency as a vet at the beginning of the thread, this incompetency is not consistent from my (admittedly limited) perspective. It could very easily be used to obscure scummy motives.

Admittedly, there have also been town tells. I've mixed feelings here.

Grack:
The trolling seems a poor move. BC is hammering him, and IMO rightly so. Grack has fluffed, and Grack has not done much else. I can only think that:
- Grack does not care (useless town)
- Grack is in some way trying to modify his meta (unlikely)
- Grack is trying to scumbait (somewhat more likely)
- Grack is scum (most likely)
The Kush4prez line was possibly scumbait, but honestly I don’t see how a town Grack was planning on taking that bait (if successful) and then convincing town of his plan post hoc. The inevitable arse biting his actions have reaped was entirely foreseeable. It’s difficult to see him as town, as his actions have caused little but discord.

Yamato lynching BC:
I’m not sure, but did I miss the case? I see BC as good, I don’t want him to be scum. I’m not sure why that makes us need to lynch him without further information, as so far he’s been valuable.
Unless I’m missing something, Mocsta was right to demand more reasoning for yamato’s platform based on BC.
That said, Mocsta’s reasoning about cost/benefit for lynching BC confused me. If it’s what I think it is, it’s suspiciously dull.

Sharrant:
I’m not entirely certain how this became a thing, I’ll look into it in my next read. There didn't seem enough information at the time to make reads, that it was mentioned so many times sort of makes me think of artificial intervention.

Kushmasta:
His propensity for unpredictable play makes him unsuitable for mayor. Everyone knows this, though I think some take it too far. Policy lynching him seems both poor play and in poor taste. Using him as a vehicle for lynchbait/trolling is also pretty shit. I think people attempting to bring Kush into the spotlight are hard pressed to provide a believable town motive.
Other than that, there are a lot of people that are sliding around on my scale, but also a lot of undercommitment in posts. If you have a read, please don’t just state your conclusion, as it only begs the question, and junks up the thread with people demanding that you elaborate. You may feel like you’re getting straight to the point #lessismore #quietconfidence but the end result is a less cohesive discussion, and a less effective town.

On November 16 2013 07:28 Risen wrote:

Why are you defending Grack so hard? You have a point? Do you know Grack is town and want that juicy town cred?

On November 16 2013 07:27 Risen wrote:

Good post.

I'm leaning this way at this point as well. BC's post here
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is fantastic. I want to him to stick around and continue with stuff like this.
##vote: Bloodyc0bbler

On November 16 2013 09:52 Alakaslam wrote:

Redeemed. You will.