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austinmcc
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On November 18 2013 07:36 Blazinghand wrote: i THINK this was supposed to be BC*this would be a great reason to call me scum if I did any of these things, but I definitely haven't been active enough to do any of that. I've made like 3 posts this game Not sure. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:46 StorrZerg wrote: @austinmcc thoughts? don't think you responded, i know i took a while :/ You get slight townpoints for half of your view of BC being in relation to his post on yourself? For whatever reason, I kind of like that you're focused on why he's attacking you and why you think he's wrong about you. In my head, you're trying to figure out why he's wrong about you. If you were scum, then he's correct, and maybe you fight his read and call him scum or whatever, but you KNOW he's right and so I don't think you can put quite as much emphasis on his read. Minor though. Minor points. The rest is...stuff I agree with but was also already in thread. Not a lot to do with it  As far as your read on OOHCHILD...I'd like to see more? You lay out some clear thoughts on him, but end up null leaning town. What, out of the things you identified, do you think is MOST important out of everything he's done? The early bits? His read post? His saying he was masoned with skan? Either most important as far as getting a read on OOHCHILD or most important as far as him contributing to the game as a whole. Also, he doesn't explain his reads. What's the one you LEAST agree with? If you had a toddler and he had a toddler, would you pit your kid against his kid in a kidfight to the death, where the strength of each toddler would be based on the correctness of your read on the person in question? ... which one are you sure he's wrong on and you feel different, sure enough you'd risk your real or hypothetical kid's life? | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:59 Alakaslam wrote: Tee hee.Well it is in my filter on page Wait Wtf ...yeah I forgot This also feels townie? It better not just be a ploy, or I shall be cross with you. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:37 Pandain wrote: I remain curious about this.However this is poor play because it invites the real tracker to then claim in thread which would be absolutely awful because then mafia would know that is the true tracker. We don't know if there IS a tracker. If there is a tracker, we don't know how many. (1) Why does there have to be a tracker? (2) Why would some other tracker claim, given that setup is semi-open, and he doesn't know how many trackers there are? (3) IF there could only be one tracker, and BH claims tracker, why would the real tracker claim? Doesn't he believe now that BH is scum for fakeclaiming? Why does he reveal himself as a tracker when he COULD just call BH scum, get people to try and lynch BH (because let's be honest, BH hadn't done anything that really made him look super townie)? | ||
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Buncha masons doesn't mean there are ANY roles. It might mean this game is ONLY masons as power roles, balanced between town and scum, and nothing else needs to be there (I feel like there's been one or two games with a ton of a single role, i THINK it was mason too). Trackers would usually be in games where other people have night actions. I would expect trackers to counterbalance cop/doc/vigi/RB, because you want trackers when you have mafia night actions. Trackers don't care about no masons. There may be times where folks counterclaim and find out there are extra docs/cops or whatever, but this is DAY ONE of a semi-open game with 30 something people. I agree that we can all play poorly, but I dunno about someone randomly "counter"claiming tracker just because BH randomly posts some stuff and claims tracker. Seems farfetched. At the very least, I think you're making a LOT of assumptions to get to a point where you can say "If A, then X, if B, then Y." You're relying on so many assumptions about tracker numbers and blue behavior, just to get to a variety of possible conclusions. That seems muy shakioso. Where that's spanish for very shaky. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i do not think they are necessarily town. And i do not think BH's claim makes him anything. I am not saying you are not allowed to call him scum, but you have focused on his claim for like latest 20 posts of yours. It's useless because his claim does not make him anything. ^ | ||
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If you want to argue about why he might or might not be scum because he might or might not be tracker, then I firmly believe it's a waste of time. Even if YOU don't, "AMG IS BH FUR REALZ?" is a great chance for scum to be active about something that doesn't matter. If he's scum, people can go OH YEAH I GOT DEM BIG BALLZ I WAS RIGHT. And other people can go OH NO I GOT LIL BALLZ I WAS WRONG. Same if he's town. But either way, it's not determinative of YOUR alignment whether you're right about BH or not, you're just guessing. And in doing so, you're providing fertile ground for mafia players to post a bunch about a thing that is a topic of conversation but is actually just useless speculation. Speculation good. Giving mafia places to hide bad. Don't do it. Plox. | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:04 OOHCHILD wrote: /batmanvoicepretty useless list with zero research behind it... poe scummers BloodyC0bbler Mattchew Coagulation Hopeless1der Stutters695 Mr. Cheesecake LoneMeow Alakaslam WHERE'S THE SALSA!? | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:37 Blazinghand wrote: I'm sorry for the boring night I am tracking Austin. If I die id put him and grack as top reads. my read on yam is conditional. I left some reasoning with my mason partner since if I reveal what I think about yam meta he will game it.  | ||
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Reading now. | ||
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(1) OOHCHILD came off very townie to me.
(2) Mig is town.
(3) I like the BH lynch. Someone touched on this i think, but didn't hammer it home. Read this post - + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2013 16:32 Blazinghand wrote: I think so. in a moc/grack/foo scumteam, grack is a weak link. Moc wants to live for multiple days and get his shots off, so it's a reasonable bus. It also ties in with grack's playstyle, the troll-serious-troll thing. Moc can back off his bus if he needs to, saying "oh that was grack trolling" or something, or he can ramp up the pressure if he thinks a grack lynch is coming, and he wants credit. Both are reasonable. It's a pretty flexible bus and it makes sense with the moc role. Look at dat. IF MOCSTA WERE BUSSING GRACK HE WOULD HAVE SHOT GRACK FOR SUPER DUPER FREE TOWN CRED. So not only could mocsta NOT bus anything D1 because it was mayoral, but mocsta COULD have bussed super duper sexy hard if he really wanted to. BH's reasoning for the mocsta/grack interaction reads SO illogical to me that it's just more fuel. It's not a case of not reading the thread, mocsta flipped assassin. ANYONE who thinks mocsta was bussing grack has to account for the fact that mocsta couldn't lynch anyone D1 and could have shot anyone N1. ##vote: BH (4) There's a separate post coming on some thrawn stuff (5) Koshi, why would you suggest that if BH flips town, we lynch a top scumread of his as one of the double lynches tomorrow? Someone else called you out for essentially saying we should follow a dude who, if town, has stated he doesn't have much time and isn't keeping up. But why would we EVER give a lynch to a single dude after death over town consensus? (6) rayn no longer scummy, imo. He's way way way too spammy, but oh well. He followed up on questions about Holyflare when nobody was discussing HF and he could have sat on other topics, he's made some good points today, and while I feel like he's...trying to post in too many directions at once for right now, i like MOST of them. Although he's been spammy and the thread is difficult to catch up with, it's not difficult to catch up with because rayn has been having THE SAME shitfight with people. He's spammy in a bunch of different directions, most of them townie and good, and that's a big positive, imo. It means less likely he's intentionally clogging thread, because he shouldn't be starting new discussions if he just wants to clog (or should start only meaningless discussions). (7) If VE were scum and posted a list D1 of 5 or whatever people to shoot, I would expect there to be scum on it. Never hard and fast rule, but if you think he's scum because so many of his possible D1 kills were town, then I'd be interested in hearing whether you think UNFLIPPED people on that list are likely scum (if VE is scum). (8) Probably a separate post on BC as well? I'll do thrawn and BC solo in separate posts. (9) I did not get the sense that HF was trying to read me in mason chat. I gave him a pass early, thought about going back to look, but never did, felt I was doing some stuff in thread and stuck with that. So...I didn't feel that EITHER of us was really trying to tease out the other's alignment. I was curious that he might find me slightly scummy, but never for super articulated reasons beyond the very obvious (amg he active but no reads, wut dis?)/ (10) ss also looks good for wanting to kill rayn to save the thread. He's had good posts today, the mocsta thing makes him look good as well. Everyone can say "but maybe he wouldn't have actually killed mocsta if we elected him!!!!" Nobody cares. Yes, he might have done any number of things, he could have spammed nothing but goatse pics as mayor. But your speculation over what he might have done holds less weight than his statements about what he was going to do, and saying "I will lynch mocsta with my mayoral lynch" --> "JK dudes, lynching this other guy" --> mocsta ever flipping would look TERRIBLE for ss. Absolutely not worth saying you'll do it and opening yourself up to looking that bad as scum. | ||
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On November 20 2013 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care how long you wait for anything from me So i have now been waiting for your scumreads for five days austin. Youstill seem to be having none. I hope you get lynched next. One day, we will play a nice happy game. | ||
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On November 20 2013 09:08 Pandain wrote: BC, thrawn looks good but I want to see if I'm overreacting to some stuff, thrawn post in the works nowWho do you think is scum austin besides BH On November 20 2013 09:11 Holyflare wrote: In friendly sarcastic mode, YES IT IS TOTALLY GONNA HAPPEN I'M JUST GONNA BE SUPER AGGRESSIVE FOR THE LAST 45 MINUTES OF THE DAY RAWR RAWR RAWR. So you wrote all of that up just to come to the same conclusion that almost everyone in the thread has? (lynch BH). I am going to wait for your other seperate posts on BC etc before I come to an actual conclusion on what you've done with your answers. You said in mason chat that you HAD to be a lot more aggressive today? Is that going to start? Mig and Kush points are pretty useful at least. Got sidetracked, last 48 hours did not go as planned. Working on stuff now, but any aggression can't come D2 because D2 practically over. | ||
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