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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 15 2013 04:06 GMT
#661
I want a VE mayor. and no your not swinging BH right now.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 15 2013 04:06 GMT
#662
On November 15 2013 13:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.

Pandain looks better than he did early game, but grack is still being a useless fuck and is in the same category as hiro.

Super is more belligerent than I've ever seen him and also overall not seemingly invested too much into the actual game. His start to the game was rocky at best and he came under fire for it rightly so. His response was to OMGUS and insult the people calling him out, and then never to commit fully to any reads.

Mig's one post was pro town but it was essentially meaningless. Of the "conversation" Moc talked about, this is the most interesting aspect because Mig never followed up on the question or offered his own thoughts. Perhaps he is a generally lurky player, but I expect better if he,s supposedly a vet.

Oats and VE are my two solid town reads. Everyone else either hasn't posted at all or isn't posting anything I find alignment indicative.

If anything anyone could say particularly indicated "town" everyone would post that every game. Which is why there isn't such a thing.

Yamato's post here highlights that nicely and I wanted to take an opportunity to point it out.

That being said, I take it personally as a failure to ditch my meta and will continue under that assumption. I will prove my alignment, and I will not be lynched. If I am lynched this game I am absolutely at a loss to improve. This statement should not indicate my alignment as it is WIFOM.


Coag who do you want for mayor and am I swinging BH?

thought you were scum
now i dont
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 15 2013 04:06 GMT
#663
On November 15 2013 13:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I get totally different conclusions than you from his filter Austin.

First post was a joke and probably something pregame. So thats null.
Next post null.

Last post, what happens if scum get shennined into the mayor because scum fucks up? I dunno about you, but I do not feel comfortable with giving scum a scum favored role.
Its much better to just get the top 2 townies into those 2 roles.
See question 2 to risen and question 2 to sharrant - + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=571&topic_id=434275
(Same to BC).

I think the thought process is particularly townie. I don't think it's a magical super duper mega can't ever fail town plan. But it smells townie, and I wanted to poke at specific people to see what they thought about---whether they identified holes or not.
Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 15 2013 04:08 GMT
#664
Btw austin, its been suggested in the 2 mayor games Ive played so far, i assume its not a new thing. Anyway, its not that bad for scum if a townie gets the pardorner and then gets lynched. Its way worse if a townie gets pardoner and is totally town and will never get lynched.
No gg, No skill.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 15 2013 04:09 GMT
#665
On November 15 2013 13:03 Alakaslam wrote:
If I am lynched this game I am absolutely at a loss to improve.

I disagree with this statement. Even good players get lynched as town (ask Foolishness.) Even good players get lynched frequently as town (ask Ace). Even good players are wrong (ask BC.) Even good players are wrong often (you can take my word on this one.)

Never give up hope. When you give up hope, scum have truly and completely won.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 15 2013 04:10 GMT
#666
On November 15 2013 13:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 13:02 austinmcc wrote:
On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.
I think that you CAN categorize hiro's posts as drivel, without really reaching.

But I think if you look at...the progression of what you see as drivel, the trail of drivel, ze pattern into which his drivel is crystallized, it looks townie. His following up on a thought process, and one that is likely town, is townie in and of itself.

Agree/disagree? Agree/disagree not in relation to hiro? Like...I will firmly argue that you can read a progression of posts and a train of thought as townie even if the individual posts don't amount to much.


That's the problem with what you are saying though. A train of thought is a human trait not a town/scum one. Just because he sticks to something and elaborates does not make him the towniest in the thread by a long shot.
I don't find him townie for having a train of thought.

I find him townie for his specific train of thought and the way it progressed.

Also, we're talking about my read here. What he's done DOES make him the towniest in the thread to me. Promise. I am, in fact, not just lying about my reads for no reason.


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 15 2013 04:12 GMT
#667
On November 15 2013 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Btw austin, its been suggested in the 2 mayor games Ive played so far, i assume its not a new thing. Anyway, its not that bad for scum if a townie gets the pardorner and then gets lynched. Its way worse if a townie gets pardoner and is totally town and will never get lynched.
It's not a magical new thing, but a specific person suggested it and did so in a certain way. I found that way townie. Still do. Still will.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 15 2013 04:15 GMT
#668
Anyway, I would still like to hear from sharrant and rayn.

Risen, given all this other discussion on the matter now, I'm still interested in what scumrisen does assuming that town chooses a mayor who clearly articulates his D1 lynch, and chooses to make the mayor's D1 lynch 2nd in votes, so as to off the pardoner.
Fe fi fo fum.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
November 15 2013 04:16 GMT
#669
Austin I want to see sharrant post more before I make a judgement on him. I do this as someone who doesn't really remember his play from much (i dont read games I don't play in normally and hes never left a lasting impression with me)

Risen however has made a post that I fucking loath.
On November 15 2013 11:41 Risen wrote:
Can't be bothered to read all this. Love it when I'm scum, reason I hate being town.


Anyone who cannot be bothered to read a game of mafia from start to finish when town should be fucking banned from playing. I seriously cannot get behind people who do this shit.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 15 2013 04:16 GMT
#670
Austin, the read is sketchy because not only is it based off of bad logic (collectively, I think it's obvious this is the case), but that it's the one read you've mentioned so far. It seems so much like you're reaching for a reason to justify a read you never should have given in the first place.

Anyway, that's really my last post for a good chunk of time. At least 8 hours. So bye.
Writer@WriterYamato
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 15 2013 04:21 GMT
#671
On November 15 2013 13:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Austin I want to see sharrant post more before I make a judgement on him.
Zees is why I ask him ze questions. We're in agreement here. I have a tentative read, but want to shore it up slightly.
Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 15 2013 04:38 GMT
#672
[image loading]

finished reading the thread

If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary-wise; what it is it wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?
I come in for the scraps
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 15 2013 04:42 GMT
#673
Will the almighty Vayne be running for mayor?
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
November 15 2013 04:49 GMT
#674
On November 15 2013 11:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 11:47 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Mocsta can you explain more simply why Storrzerg is scum. what is the difference between hunting for scum and wanting to hunt scum?

What's so compelling about Mocsta's StorrZerg suspicion that you should comment on that and not any of the other suspicions being flown around? This might be the first post in which you don't mention Kush.

It's the worst accusation I've seen.

O really.....

Storrzerg could be town making a selfish play for mayor.
I can dig that, been there done that.
I actually acknowledged this in my post.

However, what I identified after a filter dive is that aside from a game plan to campaign for mayor his choice of play is pro town.

Every game I have played in, it has always been scum pushing rng... Myself included in that increasingly larger subset.
Storrzerg positions himself as a reliable scum hunter, asserting that unknowns yamato and VE would vote for him.
Then spins this around proposing RNG on the basis of forcing activity.

Yeah... I don't buy this, and neither should anyone else.
It's a cheap cop out and I can not imagine a town person would approach a mayor game in this fashion.


So.. your town. Why is this such a bad accusation that you are willing to delurk to voice concern.
Actually fuck that Grack. If you are so certain it is bad play I want him lynched... Who do YOU want lynched as of now.

I don't think that's true at all. Lots of townies push RNG normally including myself. You posted a long fluffy post with 3 weak points.

Storrzerg played the noob card- It's not scummy for newbs to use the noob card.
He added the word for between hunt scum - wat?
He thinks it would be a good idea to suggest RNG to raise activity - How does that make him scum?


RNG is a dumb as fuck way to approach things.

Also Storr cant play the noob card because hes not a newb. Hes been playing for ages. A player being mayor or not before does not mean they will make a good choice. Someone who is clearly making solid choices and decisions is who should get it. If storr thinks he can win with the "noob" card we should lynch him purely on the fact hes not new.

Given that he wants to add RNG to the list as well then it seems to me like we have a good solid day 1 removal unless he straightens himself out
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 04:49 GMT
#675
On November 15 2013 13:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 13:03 Alakaslam wrote:
If I am lynched this game I am absolutely at a loss to improve.

I disagree with this statement. Even good players get lynched as town (ask Foolishness.) Even good players get lynched frequently as town (ask Ace). Even good players are wrong (ask BC.) Even good players are wrong often (you can take my word on this one.)

Never give up hope. When you give up hope, scum have truly and completely won.

But what then when I am actually scum myself? XD

But this is the real me, I am perfectionist-lazy. Bad combo but like any bad/good hybrid, better than just lazy.

Dinnae worry though I will prove myself able here
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 15 2013 04:49 GMT
#676
Fuck balls I'll read this later
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
November 15 2013 04:52 GMT
#677
On November 15 2013 13:49 OOHCHILD wrote:
Fuck balls I'll read this later


Pretty bad start given that people want you to be mayor
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 04:53 GMT
#678
On November 15 2013 13:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Austin I want to see sharrant post more before I make a judgement on him. I do this as someone who doesn't really remember his play from much (i dont read games I don't play in normally and hes never left a lasting impression with me)

Risen however has made a post that I fucking loath.
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 11:41 Risen wrote:
Can't be bothered to read all this. Love it when I'm scum, reason I hate being town.


Anyone who cannot be bothered to read a game of mafia from start to finish when town should be fucking banned from playing. I seriously cannot get behind people who do this shit.

And it's not even all that long yet the first 15 pages is pregame chatter.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 04:54 GMT
#679
On November 15 2013 13:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 13:49 OOHCHILD wrote:
Fuck balls I'll read this later


Pretty bad start given that people want you to be mayor

I think said people are trolling

Funny Kush's timing however
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
OOHCHILD
Profile Joined September 2013
United States570 Posts
November 15 2013 04:55 GMT
#680
I think I'm the worst possible pick for mayor given that I'm never ever nked.
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