• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:39
CET 14:39
KST 22:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship2[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage1Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16 [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RSL S3 ro16
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1626 users

TL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 36

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 396 Next
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 05:32 GMT
#701
On November 15 2013 14:20 Holyflare wrote:
What does scum matt look like then?

To be honest. I dunno.

I'm. Not confident reading him because I naturally find him scummy.
Much like I'm not confident reading you after Hogwarts.


In voice mafia, scum mattchew is more aggressive than town mattchew.
I.e. he uses his knowledge advantage to become more useful

It's hard to say whether that crosses over to this game or is actually relevant.


Either way mattchew is a guy that yes needs to post more throughout the game but like sharrant. I think these types of players are coin flippy day1. Nothing wrong with pressure, but I wouldn't bank on a firm read either side.








Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 05:34 GMT
#702
On November 15 2013 14:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 15 2013 14:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 13:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 15 2013 13:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 13:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:54 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:47 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
[quote]
What's so compelling about Mocsta's StorrZerg suspicion that you should comment on that and not any of the other suspicions being flown around? This might be the first post in which you don't mention Kush.

It's the worst accusation I've seen.

O really.....

Storrzerg could be town making a selfish play for mayor.
I can dig that, been there done that.
I actually acknowledged this in my post.

However, what I identified after a filter dive is that aside from a game plan to campaign for mayor his choice of play is pro town.

Every game I have played in, it has always been scum pushing rng... Myself included in that increasingly larger subset.
Storrzerg positions himself as a reliable scum hunter, asserting that unknowns yamato and VE would vote for him.
Then spins this around proposing RNG on the basis of forcing activity.

Yeah... I don't buy this, and neither should anyone else.
It's a cheap cop out and I can not imagine a town person would approach a mayor game in this fashion.


So.. your town. Why is this such a bad accusation that you are willing to delurk to voice concern.
Actually fuck that Grack. If you are so certain it is bad play I want him lynched... Who do YOU want lynched as of now.

I don't think that's true at all. Lots of townies push RNG normally including myself. You posted a long fluffy post with 3 weak points.

Storrzerg played the noob card- It's not scummy for newbs to use the noob card.
He added the word for between hunt scum - wat?
He thinks it would be a good idea to suggest RNG to raise activity - How does that make him scum?


RNG is a dumb as fuck way to approach things.

Also Storr cant play the noob card because hes not a newb. Hes been playing for ages. A player being mayor or not before does not mean they will make a good choice. Someone who is clearly making solid choices and decisions is who should get it. If storr thinks he can win with the "noob" card we should lynch him purely on the fact hes not new.

Given that he wants to add RNG to the list as well then it seems to me like we have a good solid day 1 removal unless he straightens himself out

Storrzerg is still playing in newbies games, and quite frankly his handling of the cop claim with me last game in Hogwarts was rather silly. I <3 RNG. Liking RNG doesn't make somebody scum. I actually think scum should be more afraid of RNG.


I disagree completely. RNG is stupid as fuck. We aren't playing a lottery we are playing a game of mafia. Why would I be random when I can read what people say / what they ignore and base my reads/votes accordingly? RNG when you have information is dumb and clearly not in the benefit of the town. Factor in we have mayor elections and you are advocating giving someone a role that is powerful for no good reason aside from you like rng is dumb as fuck.

Also what? how is he still in newbie games.

You, my friend, shall have to talk to the hand. The Blazinghand that is when he inevitably pushes a mayoral random lynch and I support him in his endeavors.


This was like "we need to find the scum and remove them. With scum remover. New scum remover available for three easy installments of $19.95 a month."

What does the epic one have to do with Storrzerg?

he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price?

You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge

I troll no further albeit tempting
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 05:35 GMT
#703
On November 15 2013 14:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:14 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 14:09 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 15 2013 14:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 13:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 15 2013 13:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 13:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:54 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:47 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:
[quote]
It's the worst accusation I've seen.

O really.....

Storrzerg could be town making a selfish play for mayor.
I can dig that, been there done that.
I actually acknowledged this in my post.

However, what I identified after a filter dive is that aside from a game plan to campaign for mayor his choice of play is pro town.

Every game I have played in, it has always been scum pushing rng... Myself included in that increasingly larger subset.
Storrzerg positions himself as a reliable scum hunter, asserting that unknowns yamato and VE would vote for him.
Then spins this around proposing RNG on the basis of forcing activity.

Yeah... I don't buy this, and neither should anyone else.
It's a cheap cop out and I can not imagine a town person would approach a mayor game in this fashion.


So.. your town. Why is this such a bad accusation that you are willing to delurk to voice concern.
Actually fuck that Grack. If you are so certain it is bad play I want him lynched... Who do YOU want lynched as of now.

I don't think that's true at all. Lots of townies push RNG normally including myself. You posted a long fluffy post with 3 weak points.

Storrzerg played the noob card- It's not scummy for newbs to use the noob card.
He added the word for between hunt scum - wat?
He thinks it would be a good idea to suggest RNG to raise activity - How does that make him scum?


RNG is a dumb as fuck way to approach things.

Also Storr cant play the noob card because hes not a newb. Hes been playing for ages. A player being mayor or not before does not mean they will make a good choice. Someone who is clearly making solid choices and decisions is who should get it. If storr thinks he can win with the "noob" card we should lynch him purely on the fact hes not new.

Given that he wants to add RNG to the list as well then it seems to me like we have a good solid day 1 removal unless he straightens himself out

Storrzerg is still playing in newbies games, and quite frankly his handling of the cop claim with me last game in Hogwarts was rather silly. I <3 RNG. Liking RNG doesn't make somebody scum. I actually think scum should be more afraid of RNG.


I disagree completely. RNG is stupid as fuck. We aren't playing a lottery we are playing a game of mafia. Why would I be random when I can read what people say / what they ignore and base my reads/votes accordingly? RNG when you have information is dumb and clearly not in the benefit of the town. Factor in we have mayor elections and you are advocating giving someone a role that is powerful for no good reason aside from you like rng is dumb as fuck.

Also what? how is he still in newbie games.

You, my friend, shall have to talk to the hand. The Blazinghand that is when he inevitably pushes a mayoral random lynch and I support him in his endeavors.


This was like "we need to find the scum and remove them. With scum remover. New scum remover available for three easy installments of $19.95 a month."

What does the epic one have to do with Storrzerg?

he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price?

You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge

I troll no further albeit tempting

Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 15 2013 05:37 GMT
#704
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:

he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price?

You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge

I troll no further albeit tempting

Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise



Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 15 2013 05:39 GMT
#705
rayn is a jerk
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 15 2013 05:40 GMT
#706
shout out to my boi grack
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 15 2013 05:40 GMT
#707
so is pandain.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 15 2013 05:41 GMT
#708
On November 15 2013 14:39 Coagulation wrote:
rayn is a jerk


jerk/jerk?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 15 2013 05:41 GMT
#709
On November 15 2013 14:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:39 Coagulation wrote:
rayn is a jerk


jerk/jerk?


yes.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 15 2013 05:42 GMT
#710
On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:

he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price?

You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge

I troll no further albeit tempting

Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise



Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked.

The games you quoted are both over a year old; Play styles can change a lot over time. His recent play in Hogwarts also did not match either of the town games you listed as meta, yet he was town in that game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 15 2013 05:42 GMT
#711
agreed
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 05:42 GMT
#712
On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:

he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price?

You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge

I troll no further albeit tempting

Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise



Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked.

Yeah I am really displeased with Mattchew but I have actually never seen him before. I haven't the foggiest idea why he is not elaborating on anything.

However there are positives here: he is really quick to actually read, and nearly every post has a read of sorts, which, although not a lot of content, is still content.

I don't understand his reads on me either but it was encouraging when he shared the pattern they followed.

I see no scum motive for what he is doing as of this time.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 05:45 GMT
#713
On November 15 2013 14:42 Holyflare wrote:
agreed

???

So what was the point of the call out and meta follow up, if you agree it doesn't support your conclusion.

To be frank. I find this suspicious regardless of Matt's alignment.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 15 2013 05:46 GMT
#714
Hey Pandain, I think Kushm4sta has shattered our dreams by not running for mayor.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 15 2013 05:47 GMT
#715
On November 15 2013 14:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote:
On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:

he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price?

You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge

I troll no further albeit tempting

Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise



Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked.

The games you quoted are both over a year old; Play styles can change a lot over time. His recent play in Hogwarts also did not match either of the town games you listed as meta, yet he was town in that game.



I disagree with you:

here is his filter for hogwarts: click me!

while yes, there are singular lines, there is also hefty content at parts just like the town games I linked, albeit this game is still early so it's justifiable for the near future, I want to hear more from him because right now I think it falls more in line with his scum game (even if it is old)


Either way he is not around to defend himself and so I'll move elsewhere for now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 15 2013 05:47 GMT
#716
On November 15 2013 14:45 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:42 Holyflare wrote:
agreed

???

So what was the point of the call out and meta follow up, if you agree it doesn't support your conclusion.

To be frank. I find this suspicious regardless of Matt's alignment.



was agreeing with coag and grack posted simultaneously? lol
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 05:51 GMT
#717
On November 15 2013 14:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Pandain, I think Kushm4sta has shattered our dreams by not running for mayor.

Please, please, please be masa and mune

To then stop trolling

Awaken

And become a hardcore beast as wrecks scum

And then should you be destroyed

To leave behind a bent sword that we can use dream stone to reforge

And change history.



With that massive hulk of double meaning video game reference, I now bow out for sleep's sake.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 15 2013 05:53 GMT
#718
On November 15 2013 14:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 14:42 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 15 2013 14:37 Holyflare wrote:
On November 15 2013 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:

he has taken up the position as the leader of RNG lynches ever since the downfall of Palmar. Now quit changing the subject you silly Alaskan lamb; where can we find this scum remover and can you be more flexible on price?

You can get it from deep CHUPAZI, I am not sure what they would charge

I troll no further albeit tempting

Not actually sure if I can deliver on that promise



Your take on mattchew please? Also I want to hear more opinions on rayn, don't want to let him pass unchecked.

The games you quoted are both over a year old; Play styles can change a lot over time. His recent play in Hogwarts also did not match either of the town games you listed as meta, yet he was town in that game.



I disagree with you:

here is his filter for hogwarts: click me!

while yes, there are singular lines, there is also hefty content at parts just like the town games I linked, albeit this game is still early so it's justifiable for the near future, I want to hear more from him because right now I think it falls more in line with his scum game (even if it is old)


Either way he is not around to defend himself and so I'll move elsewhere for now.

Mattchew did nothing at the start of that game. And I'm right that you should be looking at current games. Of course Mattchew is going to start off games more try hard in older games than in recent games when he has played more games . I think that's true for most players.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 15 2013 05:54 GMT
#719
I'd bet even Vayne did something during his first few games of mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 15 2013 05:57 GMT
#720
Well I looked at the TL database and that was the latest game he played in on there. That's all I have to go by and it was this year. It's quite clearly not his first game either it is his 21st.

Prev 1 34 35 36 37 38 396 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Korean Royale
12:00
Open Qualifier #2
Solar vs Ryung
WardiTV738
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 72
Codebar 30
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 19334
Bisu 2922
Pusan 414
Hyuk 335
Stork 317
Last 222
Barracks 218
Leta 134
ToSsGirL 120
Aegong 45
[ Show more ]
Sharp 32
JulyZerg 29
sas.Sziky 28
zelot 24
Free 20
Shine 6
Terrorterran 5
Dota 2
qojqva1882
Dendi700
XcaliburYe510
420jenkins188
BananaSlamJamma116
Counter-Strike
x6flipin384
oskar40
edward31
Other Games
singsing1673
crisheroes335
B2W.Neo325
DeMusliM278
Happy270
Pyrionflax228
hiko200
Fuzer 183
Sick162
XaKoH 134
Hui .119
SortOf77
QueenE21
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL131
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 17
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 84
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2634
Other Games
• Shiphtur119
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
4h 21m
OSC
9h 21m
The PondCast
20h 21m
LAN Event
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
OSC
1d 22h
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.