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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 03:55 GMT
#641
On November 15 2013 12:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:39 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
No, sharrant is not notoriously difficult to read. What are you smoking?

Every game I played with him he has been mislynched.
Even as a cop.

I dunno what you have got up ya ass. But you need to remove it.

how many games is every game?

Definitely 3.
Maybe 4.

austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 15 2013 03:55 GMT
#642
On November 15 2013 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wgere did mocsta go.

Also how the fuck is Hiro your top townread Austin..
Ezpz.

On November 15 2013 09:12 hiro protagonist wrote:
My FOOLPROOF mayor candidacy Plan™:

step 1: Vote for me for mayor ^__^
step 2: Vote OOHCHILD* for pardner. + Show Spoiler +
Sorry VE, I lied about you being my running mate

step 3: I lynch OOHCHILD, taking out a polrizing player, and a pro-scum role day 1.

+ Show Spoiler +
*I reserve the right to lynch someone other than OHHCHILD should a better target apper
*I reserve the right to vote for a strong scumhunter for mayor who follows this plan.


##Vote: hiro protagonist
Could be interpreted as pro-town, could be trolly.

He gets poked about his post.
On November 15 2013 09:21 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:19 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 Grackaroni wrote:
I agree with VE. Let's elect Kushm4sta as Mayor and then allow him to exterminate the supposed Hiro Protagonist for his blatant anti kush sentiment.

there's actually stuff you could talk about, you know

Yeah, like my plan. I think its a good one and I would like everyone's opinion on it.

VE, despite you thinking I am Prp, and there for scum, what do you think of the plan?

His response is meh, not overwhelmingly townie.

BUT. BUT BUT BUT

On November 15 2013 09:35 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, well, out side of my policy lynch, how bout we talk about the positives of a pardner lynch:

*We kill off a pro scum role.
*It gets people to vote for not just the mayor, but who should be lynched. this means there will be more scumhunting day 1 and less dick wagging.
This post is good. This is a legitimate point, and something I also want people to talk about (see questions to risen/sharrant).

Plan + meh + good followup to plan before leaving = townie to me. It shows me that, while he's not super actively involved in side discussion or reads, he's thinking about how to use the setup to town's advantage. Nobody else has done this to the same extent as hiro.
Fe fi fo fum.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 03:55 GMT
#643
On November 15 2013 12:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:51 austinmcc wrote:
I will continue to watch you, VE, but right now I don't want to make you insta-mayor.

You don't have the power to do that even if you did. All I'm asking for is one measly little vote.

I am almost willing to do this but I feel like I am one easily piped.
*"Piped" is my term replacing "SVENGALID". The concept is still there and it is rich with meaning, like the word troll.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 15 2013 03:55 GMT
#644
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.

Pandain looks better than he did early game, but grack is still being a useless fuck and is in the same category as hiro.

Super is more belligerent than I've ever seen him and also overall not seemingly invested too much into the actual game. His start to the game was rocky at best and he came under fire for it rightly so. His response was to OMGUS and insult the people calling him out, and then never to commit fully to any reads.

Mig's one post was pro town but it was essentially meaningless. Of the "conversation" Moc talked about, this is the most interesting aspect because Mig never followed up on the question or offered his own thoughts. Perhaps he is a generally lurky player, but I expect better if he,s supposedly a vet.

Oats and VE are my two solid town reads. Everyone else either hasn't posted at all or isn't posting anything I find alignment indicative.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 15 2013 03:57 GMT
#645
On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.

Pandain looks better than he did early game, but grack is still being a useless fuck and is in the same category as hiro.

Super is more belligerent than I've ever seen him and also overall not seemingly invested too much into the actual game. His start to the game was rocky at best and he came under fire for it rightly so. His response was to OMGUS and insult the people calling him out, and then never to commit fully to any reads.

Mig's one post was pro town but it was essentially meaningless. Of the "conversation" Moc talked about, this is the most interesting aspect because Mig never followed up on the question or offered his own thoughts. Perhaps he is a generally lurky player, but I expect better if he,s supposedly a vet.

Oats and VE are my two solid town reads. Everyone else either hasn't posted at all or isn't posting anything I find alignment indicative.

betch, i am your top town

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 03:58 GMT
#646
On November 15 2013 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wgere did mocsta go.

Also how the fuck is Hiro your top townread Austin..

I'm at work where tl is firewalled.

Be grateful I'm posting.

I'm actually under the pump today, but can't stop pausing every 15min to refresh.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 15 2013 03:59 GMT
#647
On November 15 2013 12:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:51 austinmcc wrote:
I will continue to watch you, VE, but right now I don't want to make you insta-mayor.

You don't have the power to do that even if you did. All I'm asking for is one measly little vote.
VE, you might get my vote.

Except, that's a later consideration. Thinking I might run myself. Or maybe I decide later that your full name is Visceraeyes Scumberto McScumlichnaya. Which is a VERY scummy name, btw.
Fe fi fo fum.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 15 2013 03:59 GMT
#648
Welcome all to the great mayoral race of 2013 in our fair city.

I suggest people quit random spouting shit on who they are going to vote for or not vote for until we have a solid list of candidates. I dont know, like a selection of people who actually have a plan on how to deal with the game?

Lets break out this election for those who haven't fully read the OP or compared it to previous games of past with elections.

Mayor/pardoner are targetable by night actions, as well as have no bgs.

However. This game also fails to have roles to easily and quickly tell if the elected bodies are mafia or an assassin. A tracker can only get so much info.

As such to remove the annoyance of dealing with a mafia / assassin being elected whoever gets voted in should prove their worth of the position.

As much as a bunch of players like myself, VE, super, mig, etc... would want to be elected? Make us fucking earn it. We are high priority shots for mafia for sure but without bgs all the roles do is make us vets IE still killable early into the game most likely.

As such. Make us earn the election. Be it through whatever means you guys decide as a whole, but realistically no one should be sliding into these slots. Clear established reads on whoever gets in is whats required here.

Also, VE your arguing with oats about past games is fucking annoying and cluttering up the thread.
Also note: Anyone actively voting for a troll in this election should be lynched for obvious reasons.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 15 2013 03:59 GMT
#649
Obviously I disagree fundamentally; posting about the setup, even if it seems pro-town, is in no way shape or form good enough to be considered the towniest guy in the thread.

Austin is now on my sketchy list for that read.

gtg
Writer@WriterYamato
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 15 2013 03:59 GMT
#650
On November 15 2013 12:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 12:51 austinmcc wrote:
I will continue to watch you, VE, but right now I don't want to make you insta-mayor.

You don't have the power to do that even if you did. All I'm asking for is one measly little vote.

I am almost willing to do this but I feel like I am one easily piped.
*"Piped" is my term replacing "SVENGALID". The concept is still there and it is rich with meaning, like the word troll.

The vote represents more than just one's willingness to make me mayor. The vote is a statement. It's taking a stand and saying "Damnit I'm not going to deal with these scummy bastards anymore! I think VisceraEyes is town and I WANT MY VOICE TO BE HEARD AMONG THE STARS!!"
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 15 2013 04:00 GMT
#651
On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
grack is still being a useless fuck and is in the same category as hiro.

Shhhhh!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 15 2013 04:00 GMT
#652
I'm adding Yamato to the oh god so town post.

I don't think he's a good scum faker. I like how he's pressuring people, I like how he's forcing people to talk, his posts seem care-free but also right (= town alot )
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 15 2013 04:01 GMT
#653
I get totally different conclusions than you from his filter Austin.

First post was a joke and probably something pregame. So thats null.
Next post null.

Last post, what happens if scum get shennined into the mayor because scum fucks up? I dunno about you, but I do not feel comfortable with giving scum a scum favored role.
Its much better to just get the top 2 townies into those 2 roles.
No gg, No skill.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 15 2013 04:01 GMT
#654
On November 15 2013 12:59 yamato77 wrote:
Obviously I disagree fundamentally; posting about the setup, even if it seems pro-town, is in no way shape or form good enough to be considered the towniest guy in the thread.

Austin is now on my sketchy list for that read.

gtg

I take it back. You're not a smelly fart head. I still think you're town though.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 15 2013 04:01 GMT
#655
Grack who do you think is town
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 15 2013 04:02 GMT
#656
On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.
I think that you CAN categorize hiro's posts as drivel, without really reaching.

But I think if you look at...the progression of what you see as drivel, the trail of drivel, ze pattern into which his drivel is crystallized, it looks townie. His following up on a thought process, and one that is likely town, is townie in and of itself.

Agree/disagree? Agree/disagree not in relation to hiro? Like...I will firmly argue that you can read a progression of posts and a train of thought as townie even if the individual posts don't amount to much.
Fe fi fo fum.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 15 2013 04:02 GMT
#657
On November 15 2013 12:55 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wgere did mocsta go.

Also how the fuck is Hiro your top townread Austin..
Ezpz.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:12 hiro protagonist wrote:
My FOOLPROOF mayor candidacy Plan™:

step 1: Vote for me for mayor ^__^
step 2: Vote OOHCHILD* for pardner. + Show Spoiler +
Sorry VE, I lied about you being my running mate

step 3: I lynch OOHCHILD, taking out a polrizing player, and a pro-scum role day 1.

+ Show Spoiler +
*I reserve the right to lynch someone other than OHHCHILD should a better target apper
*I reserve the right to vote for a strong scumhunter for mayor who follows this plan.


##Vote: hiro protagonist
Could be interpreted as pro-town, could be trolly.

He gets poked about his post.
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:21 hiro protagonist wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:19 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 Grackaroni wrote:
I agree with VE. Let's elect Kushm4sta as Mayor and then allow him to exterminate the supposed Hiro Protagonist for his blatant anti kush sentiment.

there's actually stuff you could talk about, you know

Yeah, like my plan. I think its a good one and I would like everyone's opinion on it.

VE, despite you thinking I am Prp, and there for scum, what do you think of the plan?

His response is meh, not overwhelmingly townie.

BUT. BUT BUT BUT

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:35 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, well, out side of my policy lynch, how bout we talk about the positives of a pardner lynch:

*We kill off a pro scum role.
*It gets people to vote for not just the mayor, but who should be lynched. this means there will be more scumhunting day 1 and less dick wagging.
This post is good. This is a legitimate point, and something I also want people to talk about (see questions to risen/sharrant).

Plan + meh + good followup to plan before leaving = townie to me. It shows me that, while he's not super actively involved in side discussion or reads, he's thinking about how to use the setup to town's advantage. Nobody else has done this to the same extent as hiro.


Biggest issue with the plan to off the pardoner is coordinating the votes properly to achieve this. It requires a group of people day 1 who don't trust eachother to work together on a solid 1 person choice on who should be mayor, then getting enough people to split the vote just to get 1 player whos pardoner offed.

Its a solid idea, but its actual act of pulling it off is really bloody hard. I do give points for trying to break the setup, but I find it very hard to believe that a plan like this won't end up getting someone who shouldnt be elected elected, or town lynched stupidly
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 15 2013 04:03 GMT
#658
On November 15 2013 13:02 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.
I think that you CAN categorize hiro's posts as drivel, without really reaching.

But I think if you look at...the progression of what you see as drivel, the trail of drivel, ze pattern into which his drivel is crystallized, it looks townie. His following up on a thought process, and one that is likely town, is townie in and of itself.

Agree/disagree? Agree/disagree not in relation to hiro? Like...I will firmly argue that you can read a progression of posts and a train of thought as townie even if the individual posts don't amount to much.


That's the problem with what you are saying though. A train of thought is a human trait not a town/scum one. Just because he sticks to something and elaborates does not make him the towniest in the thread by a long shot.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 15 2013 04:03 GMT
#659
On November 15 2013 13:01 Pandain wrote:
Grack who do you think is town

Oatsmaster is probably town. yamato is likely too if he continues on the path that he has been going so far.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 04:03 GMT
#660
On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.

Pandain looks better than he did early game, but grack is still being a useless fuck and is in the same category as hiro.

Super is more belligerent than I've ever seen him and also overall not seemingly invested too much into the actual game. His start to the game was rocky at best and he came under fire for it rightly so. His response was to OMGUS and insult the people calling him out, and then never to commit fully to any reads.

Mig's one post was pro town but it was essentially meaningless. Of the "conversation" Moc talked about, this is the most interesting aspect because Mig never followed up on the question or offered his own thoughts. Perhaps he is a generally lurky player, but I expect better if he,s supposedly a vet.

Oats and VE are my two solid town reads. Everyone else either hasn't posted at all or isn't posting anything I find alignment indicative.

If anything anyone could say particularly indicated "town" everyone would post that every game. Which is why there isn't such a thing.

Yamato's post here highlights that nicely and I wanted to take an opportunity to point it out.

That being said, I take it personally as a failure to ditch my meta and will continue under that assumption. I will prove my alignment, and I will not be lynched. If I am lynched this game I am absolutely at a loss to improve. This statement should not indicate my alignment as it is WIFOM.


Coag who do you want for mayor and am I swinging BH?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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