EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 310
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VayneAuthority
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VayneAuthority
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
1) loved BC's retarded case against Grack and continues to think Grack is mafia. Doesn't actually look like he is evaluating new information and changing his reads. 2) It isn't just that he wasn't around but he was posting for nearly 2 solid days in his other game while completely ignoring this one. Then he comes back says something about how he wasn't scummy enough and insinuates it was part of some plan, he also told me it was "special tactics" along with disinterest. But then comes in today and blames it on the state of the game demotivating him. Makes 0 mention of his special tactics or plan. Thrawn's story doesn't add up and just seems like some made up bs. Can you show me what exactly makes you think Thrawn is town? | ||
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VayneAuthority
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Mig
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On November 25 2013 04:14 VayneAuthority wrote: For me it's about looking at early game play as that is when people do not try to be tricky as there is no perspective on the game yet. If you go back and look at BC's early reads I am pretty confident that every single one of those reads is horseshit. I don't think he put hiro randomly on there to fuck with us. Pretty sure those are all genuinely incorrect reads. There is also discussion between thrawn and BC as you pointed out. There is some other stuff but im not going to go into too much detail at this point in the game. Suffice to say I have reasons as well for why Risen is town but not as strong. So what we should just assume everyone BC mention is automatically town? BC even gave himself an out on the hiro thing, said if he came back and was active he wouldn't be suspicious. This seems like pretty faulty reasoning. Why do you think Risen is town? | ||
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Mig
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VayneAuthority
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 25 2013 04:23 VayneAuthority wrote: you aren't going to be convinced by my style of play just like most people here so it's fruitless, I can already tell. I'm just going to wait until lynch. I like you....  but I have to agree with mig about thrawn, he is way too inconsistent. He called BC's really shitty post on lurkers that was aggressive "good post" and was buddying up to him all throughout the days. God damn do I actually have to make a case on this? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On November 17 2013 10:20 thrawn2112 wrote: sup HEY KOSHI <3 On November 17 2013 10:46 thrawn2112 wrote: @ all town people i've shared intimate mafia experiences with tell me if you're town On November 17 2013 10:57 thrawn2112 wrote: hey why haven't you said hi to me yet? On November 17 2013 10:59 thrawn2112 wrote: no I think not.. what's up? On November 18 2013 12:42 thrawn2112 wrote: OATS and KOSHI i'd like to have a chat with each of you 2. Did pushes on two people + Show Spoiler + Austin Asked him questions and then later followed it up. Now think's he is town but at least he did that. Me Why he thought I was scum, so his logic for me being scum came about specific reasons that arose in thread and he stuck with it. Makes sense. 3. Kept asking questions to everyone. I know that this can be a scummy thing, but his questions seemed genuine to me. So if someone does pushes, good questions, and is carefree I'm more likely to think they are town then scum. I agree that his day 3 is suspicious, but that's it. I suppose there's not much good arguing about it because it's just interpetation. I'll note that he still masoned me despite me telling him to mason you because you're probably better at determining his alignment, but even that could be explained by him trying to get a better read on me or thinkimg im more able to be convinced. I have to go to a sign-up thing for class but I'll be back in like 20 | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
2) Push on austin and push on you? That's great, 2 people that were already thought to be scum. 3)Questions, questions? Where are his answers? All of those 3 points prove anything BUT him being towny. | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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raynpelikoneet (6): Mr.cc, koshi, pandain, slam, risen, austin Why would you ever vote rayn!? I seriously think we should be voting into these people too. Or at least generate more discussion around them. | ||
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Holyflare
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##Vote: Risen | ||
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VayneAuthority
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Grackaroni
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##Vote: Risen | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Equally people who are simply sheeping ss are suspect. OMG a flipped townie had scum reads we must follow them to the letter has never, EVER been advised on TL. Besides, if we're going to go with super's TOP scum read that title belongs to Oats, so you're just plain wrong. Regardless, I still need to be lynched today. I'll field as many questions before I go as possible. We still have a little over a day so plenty of time to pick through people's justifications for voting me. Those are my observations thus far. There is no case on me afaik, so people saying the case against me is strong are being odd. Finally, stop with the martyr posts. Saying martyr over and over does not make this a martyr. I recognize that my being alive is an obstacle that town must overcome or scum are going to use this to confuse conversation the rest of the game. Martyring would be "omg I suck just lynch me plz ugh". That's not what I'm doing. What I'm doing is very logical and calculated. I mean just look at all the horrible reasons people are having to come up with to vote for me. VA has town reads on both Thrawn and I and is voting for me what? Why not vote for your top scum read, I'm still the clear front runner to be lynched. Why not voice who your top scum read is at the very least if you want to hold your vote on me to stay in line with my reasoning for the day? | ||
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Pandain
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Risen
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On November 25 2013 04:55 Grackaroni wrote: Risen just wants to WIFOM us out of lynching him lol. He's hoping someone will say at the last second "scum would never just martyr themselves if they are going to lose kp right?" He throws out these reads of scum being within me/vayne/Mig, tells us to lynch him so that we can trust his reads, and then gives absolutely no reasoning to help town lynch the mafia he doesn't think will get lynched. ##Vote: Risen This is a pro-town vote post. This is what people should be doing. Look very closely at the people who don't give proper justification and are trying to leave themselves open. Grack says "Risen trying to WIFOM bomb us" could be very true and is the reason I need to be lynched. Clears both the BC WIFOM bomb and any potential shenans I could be doing. "Risen is trying to make a big play here" my past plays are in line with this. This point is supported by meta without Grack saying omg look at Risen's past play metametameta. "No justification for reads" fair enough. I wish this post had actually included reasons my play was anti-town and pro-scum, but this is what people should be doing. Those who have not are suspect and need to be looked into. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 25 2013 05:04 Pandain wrote: Can you please explain why I am scum. I'm not satisfied by the logs fiasco outcome. I don't care that you "totally wanted to hide your vet status". You called a player you didn't knows alignment a liar openly in thread. You openly said "this player altered the logs" and that could very easily get someone lynched. This is followed by the SS kill at night. This removes the other half of the duo and almost "confirms you town" for 0 reason. How does that confirm you town in any way at all? You know what I fucking hate? All these people running around saying "I'm totally confirmed town because scum would never do this lololol". That's the reason scum would do it. Then there's your interactions with people earlier before that were giving me tingly feelings I didn't like. No specific example. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
If I had to kill 4 people right now I would kill Onegu, Koshi, Oats, Thrawn | ||
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