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On November 15 2013 12:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah that was leftover rage - understand that that post directly followed the endgame post which directly followed the situation I'm referring to. Having gone over the situation I fully admit to a bit of bias where that bit is concerned. I'm sorry Oats, I didn't mean to upset you. You know I love you. Here, come lie beside me. I won't let anyone hurt you anymore.
#nohomo
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On November 15 2013 12:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:14 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 15 2013 12:07 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 15 2013 10:53 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
By the way.: Everyone who votes outside voting for mig, BC, BlazingHand, or myself is playing antitown.
At least, I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. I fixed this for you, retaining all of your true intent, adding some compatible intent in te form of an inside joke, and containing equally flawed logic. Wouldn't it be convenient if this was the scum team? Highly unlikely, but then it is highly unlikely that any single player is scum- yet there is a guarantee of at least one. Therefore, you should elect players based on what they say, being WARY of those who have shown exceptional skill as well as those who have little or no skill. In fact, we want an absolute moderate with regard to meta until a veteran has sufficiently shown themselves to be town to earn our trust- in which case a veteran becomes ideal. This point is why I usually talk about Svengali at some point. However, that is just an attempt to sound laughable- a meta I plan to give one last ditch effort to destroy here before turning wholly to co/hosting games with the very occasional /in. Therefore, I will from now on refer to it thus; "The Peid Piper Problem". The pied piper mislead a bunch of rats through skill; so also can forum vets who rolled scum. I'm not an Assassin, therefore I'm not running for mayor. That was the only case in which I actually planned to run. I am still catching up. On November 15 2013 11:05 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown. On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate. Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you? Seriously yamato... Yeah, super's mafia. oh god, you're reatarded. I disagree. Either: He is right, you are scum, Or: He is wrong, you both interact poorly here Or: He is not only wrong, but he is intentionally wrong and actually Pied-Pipering you. Or: something else. But VE is far from idiocy, I can give you am example of idiocy in a heartbeat and in fact will do so. Game: Newbie Mini Mafia XLVIII Filter: Alakaslam Game: Aperture Mafia 2: Part 2 Filter: Alakaslam For alignment specific idiocy. Do not insult needlessly. On November 15 2013 11:46 Alakaslam wrote:Caught up. I don't trust VE but I don't think he is scum yet. I don't claim to be able to read him; this is just a pair of Lincoln coppers I used to own. Coag, I will probably do that, in inside jokes dispersed here an  Blazinghand d there, if you want to waste your tunnel on me over that know that it is a waste, therefore antitown unless there are reasons to think I would THE GREAT bloody cobbler as scum- so give reasons why that is a valid reason to tunnel me if that is an honest threat. That being said, I'm moving on to the vote thread after a bit more deliberation looks the same to me. The last one is the only one I could conceivably see as being similar Did you even understand me before? Or do I still fail to get my thoughts across? I never understood you. So do you now? How the hell am I supposed to word things? I have stopped trolling and my head hurts with the assumption of -_- during my leisure time. It's like working a 16 hour day for kicks but I'm thinking it will pay off irl to become more serious here. I still dont really understand you. Its ok, just play the game and dont care about whether I can read properly.
If this is actually the case your ability to read is less important than my apparent inability to write as I am town deadweight in that situation. I see this as alignment indicative to an extent though, so I would prefer a bit more help or a better comparison from you.
VE no comment? Did you get what you were asking for?
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I dont know what you are asking me Alak.
Your writing style cant be changed. Thats fine.
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We're working through issues HF, deep issues. Hard issues. And I'm gonna reach into the core and grab hold of those issues. And SQUEEZE them.
Er......what I mean is that I want Oats and I to be able to work together. We're not going to be able to do so if he hates my guts needlessly.
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On November 15 2013 12:18 Risen wrote:
1) All gut feeling. Not a very logical read. Has some basis in the potential for a scum rayn to think like that, but honestly it's just gut. Still think he should be lynched, my gut is usually right.
2) I honestly don't know. I don't even know what hiro is talking about. I'll come back to (2) later maybe.
I don't love the answer on rayn. You essentially grabbed one small post of his, called him scum for it, claimed to support anyone who wanted to lynch him. But you grabbed it because it "had some basis in the potential for a scum rayn to think like that"?
I can see calling it just a gut read, but usually you can at least explain something about WHY your gut thought something. The timing, the smiley, something out of place. This reads like it was maybe a thing scum rayn could do, therefore he's scum, without exploring anything else.
It's k, we're gonna keep chatting later in the cycle.
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On November 15 2013 12:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know what you are asking me Alak.
Your writing style cant be changed. Thats fine.
Dissus just a kumpleetlee phalse statement yo
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This oats/ve thing has to stop.
It's making it a lot Harder to read either player as there is now motive that exists outside this game to consider.
Sharrant is a name that keeps popping out.
Can someone walk me through what the problem is.
Iirc he has made one post.
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On November 15 2013 12:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know what you are asking me Alak.
Your writing style cant be changed. Thats fine.
This statement is incorrect, and if I work quickly enough, it will be apparent.
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Oats, slam is saying that only the last post you quoted was like his previous games (in posting style). He's now saying that if you can't read him that's not a problem for you because you can read others, it's a problem for him because he cannot convey townieness to the thread if he can't be read.
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lol what Mocsta.
Read Sharrant's posts and make your own opinion.
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See its clearly my problem.
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Dang it Mocsta.
Well anyway I think some are mistaking sharrant for Storrzerg or Softiforget, because woah I did not see that coming
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On November 15 2013 12:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Dang it Mocsta.
Well anyway I think some are mistaking sharrant for Storrzerg or Softiforget, because woah I did not see that coming
I thought you caught up with the thread? Sharrant has been mentioned quite a few times for his posts and austin just linked some to risen. What is your take on him (filter dive his 1-2 posts)?
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On November 15 2013 12:23 Mocsta wrote:
Sharrant is a name that keeps popping out.
Can someone walk me through what the problem is.
Iirc he has made one post.
It's a thing that a couple people of interest to me poked at, and I want to tease out their poking.
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On November 15 2013 12:23 Mocsta wrote:
This oats/ve thing has to stop.
It's making it a lot Harder to read either player as there is now motive that exists outside this game to consider.
Sharrant is a name that keeps popping out.
Can someone walk me through what the problem is.
Iirc he has made one post.
There are motives that exist outside the game to consider with every player of every game.
I disliked how Sharrant just looked to appear active - he asked a couple of players questions that led nowhere and then disappeared. I like that people are talking about him because it means maybe he'll feel inclined to participate more fully if he's town and if he's scum, why it gets his name in the hat for lynch regardless of who's mayor in the end.
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On November 15 2013 12:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
See its clearly my problem.
So what is the cause? This is not usual for you far as I can see. I know I am not in the best position to talk about what is usual when I am purposefully setting out to destroy my own meta, but it is what I have to go in until you clarify a bit using some specifics.
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On November 15 2013 09:53 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 09:48 yamato77 wrote:On November 15 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 15 2013 09:43 Holyflare wrote:I would like to make my pitch to you for the mayoral election. As some of you may not know me here is the current list of games that I have played on TL. While short, it is full of content that would be helpful in ensuring a victory for us. + Show Spoiler [ My portfolio] +Newbie Mini Mafia XLV - This, my first newbie game on TL. I systematically determined the entire scum team on night 1 of the game and was subsequently killed for this. This game is paramount in showing my determination in hunting scum. I am very analytical and will deliver my reads in a coherent manner that serves town in the best way possible. Examples - although hefty - can be seen here: Cases
Newbie Mini Mafia XLVII Although this game was over from day 1 and a scum victory due to modkills, I was still the voice for the town and actively pushed my reads for lynches. Newbie Mini Mafia XLVI In this game I was responsible for eliminating the scum team and ensuring a town victory due to my analysis and reads. I was the driving force behind this win. World Heavyweight Championship Mafia In this game I was under a lot of pressure day 1 but consequently I was able to become pretty much confirmed town because of this. My read and lynch choice was scum and although this was a loss (due to my error no doubt) I felt that I contributed to the best of my ability at the time. My posting style heavinly reflects what alignment I am as Hogwarts mafia will show. Hogwarts Mafia (Themed) In this game I struggled to prove that I was town after day 1. I was confused after a shambolic display night 1 and degraded into mindless line posts, it was obvious I was mafia if you looked at my content. __________________________________________________________________________________________ Now that the formalities are over and done with I will speak to you about my strategy as mayor. Simply, this can be broken down into 3 stages.
Process of Mayoral lynches- Determine my top scum reads based on analysis. These choices will be my most preferred lynches.
- Failing to lynch my top scum reads, i.e if thread sentiment does not follow, I will only lynch into people that I consider scum by way of a convincing case from other people or actual knowledge based play (meta, good points etc.)
- Get rid of people that have contributed nothing, only if we are in a fit state as a town to be able to do this.
Now, while I may not be the first choice for most of you at this current point in time, I suggest that we hold off on voting for an actual mayor until later in the day. Obviously, blindly voting people into a mayoral role this early is extremely questionable as nobody has displayed any content at all. Also, later in the day I would have displayed the traits that I am best known for displaying as town and my contributions will most definitely be worth more then. If I have then gained your favour as an electoral candidate at that point then I thank you and I shall lead us onto (hopefully) another town victory. Thank you for your consideration, - HolyflareMayoral candidate, TL Mafia LXIII 2013 Also probably town. Anyone else? This is a read I highly disagree with. Last two townreads out of you have been a bit dodgy ;] I think he is instead more dodgy honestly. I like how out there he is putting himself early for a VE, I don't think short bad posts like that are really scum indicative; indeed more town indicative. If you make a bad post like "this guy is town" but then don't justify yourself when its not immediately obvious, you put yourself under suspicion when you wouldn't want that as scum. As town you might not care. I don't think he really cares that much to justify himself. I get more a town feel.
I was joking, I actually think VE is town. The smiley was a sarcastic one.
On another note, did hiro ever answer me about why he softclaimed? If not, he's mafia.
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On November 15 2013 12:27 Alakaslam wrote:So what is the cause? This is not usual for you far as I can see. I know I am not in the best position to talk about what is usual when I am purposefully setting out to destroy my own meta, but it is what I have to go in until you clarify a bit using some specifics.
I dunno, I just cant follow your sentances. For example, I would type the quote like this.
What's causing it? Its not normal man. Im currently trying to change the way I post so I cant really comment on it, but can you explain in detail?
Something like that.
Look Alak, just play the game and dont worry about stuff like this.
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On November 15 2013 12:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Dang it Mocsta.
Well anyway I think some are mistaking sharrant for Storrzerg or Softiforget, because woah I did not see that coming I thought you caught up with the thread? Sharrant has been mentioned quite a few times for his posts and austin just linked some to risen. What is your take on him (filter dive his 1-2 posts)?
With regard to me being caught up on the thread. One bit of advice Raynepelikoneet and IamPerfection have given me is to not get lost in the woods for the sake I inspecting every tree. I am now taking this a step further: if I think the type of tree you plant in these woods is useless, I will just shy of ignore it. So that tells you what I thought. That being said I will read his couple posts.
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On November 15 2013 12:29 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 09:53 Pandain wrote:On November 15 2013 09:48 yamato77 wrote:On November 15 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 15 2013 09:43 Holyflare wrote:I would like to make my pitch to you for the mayoral election. As some of you may not know me here is the current list of games that I have played on TL. While short, it is full of content that would be helpful in ensuring a victory for us. + Show Spoiler [ My portfolio] +Newbie Mini Mafia XLV - This, my first newbie game on TL. I systematically determined the entire scum team on night 1 of the game and was subsequently killed for this. This game is paramount in showing my determination in hunting scum. I am very analytical and will deliver my reads in a coherent manner that serves town in the best way possible. Examples - although hefty - can be seen here: Cases
Newbie Mini Mafia XLVII Although this game was over from day 1 and a scum victory due to modkills, I was still the voice for the town and actively pushed my reads for lynches. Newbie Mini Mafia XLVI In this game I was responsible for eliminating the scum team and ensuring a town victory due to my analysis and reads. I was the driving force behind this win. World Heavyweight Championship Mafia In this game I was under a lot of pressure day 1 but consequently I was able to become pretty much confirmed town because of this. My read and lynch choice was scum and although this was a loss (due to my error no doubt) I felt that I contributed to the best of my ability at the time. My posting style heavinly reflects what alignment I am as Hogwarts mafia will show. Hogwarts Mafia (Themed) In this game I struggled to prove that I was town after day 1. I was confused after a shambolic display night 1 and degraded into mindless line posts, it was obvious I was mafia if you looked at my content. __________________________________________________________________________________________ Now that the formalities are over and done with I will speak to you about my strategy as mayor. Simply, this can be broken down into 3 stages.
Process of Mayoral lynches- Determine my top scum reads based on analysis. These choices will be my most preferred lynches.
- Failing to lynch my top scum reads, i.e if thread sentiment does not follow, I will only lynch into people that I consider scum by way of a convincing case from other people or actual knowledge based play (meta, good points etc.)
- Get rid of people that have contributed nothing, only if we are in a fit state as a town to be able to do this.
Now, while I may not be the first choice for most of you at this current point in time, I suggest that we hold off on voting for an actual mayor until later in the day. Obviously, blindly voting people into a mayoral role this early is extremely questionable as nobody has displayed any content at all. Also, later in the day I would have displayed the traits that I am best known for displaying as town and my contributions will most definitely be worth more then. If I have then gained your favour as an electoral candidate at that point then I thank you and I shall lead us onto (hopefully) another town victory. Thank you for your consideration, - HolyflareMayoral candidate, TL Mafia LXIII 2013 Also probably town. Anyone else? This is a read I highly disagree with. Last two townreads out of you have been a bit dodgy ;] I think he is instead more dodgy honestly. I like how out there he is putting himself early for a VE, I don't think short bad posts like that are really scum indicative; indeed more town indicative. If you make a bad post like "this guy is town" but then don't justify yourself when its not immediately obvious, you put yourself under suspicion when you wouldn't want that as scum. As town you might not care. I don't think he really cares that much to justify himself. I get more a town feel. I was joking, I actually think VE is town. The smiley was a sarcastic one. On another note, did hiro ever answer me about why he softclaimed? If not, he's mafia. What claim? If you mean the cop buddies post, that was pregame, and referring to him and koshi being cops in whatevermabob mafia.
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