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On November 15 2013 11:44 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Well town do it regardless of whether they need to do it or not just as much as scum do...but I like that you're at least considering town motivation for things that's awesome. So you say leaning scum on Sharrant but not really sure. I'd probably buy that for a dollar. What do you think about Alakaslam?
@ Oats: as I am also curious, if I am suspiciously more coherent even than at Resistance don't worry, it is actually the complete removal of stress over mafia. I am thinking with a whole and complete head, and this may be gone given the wrong pressures.
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On November 15 2013 11:47 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:On November 15 2013 11:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 15 2013 11:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Mocsta can you explain more simply why Storrzerg is scum. what is the difference between hunting for scum and wanting to hunt scum?
What's so compelling about Mocsta's StorrZerg suspicion that you should comment on that and not any of the other suspicions being flown around? This might be the first post in which you don't mention Kush. It's the worst accusation I've seen. O really..... Storrzerg could be town making a selfish play for mayor. I can dig that, been there done that. I actually acknowledged this in my post. However, what I identified after a filter dive is that aside from a game plan to campaign for mayor his choice of play is pro town. Every game I have played in, it has always been scum pushing rng... Myself included in that increasingly larger subset. Storrzerg positions himself as a reliable scum hunter, asserting that unknowns yamato and VE would vote for him. Then spins this around proposing RNG on the basis of forcing activity. Yeah... I don't buy this, and neither should anyone else. It's a cheap cop out and I can not imagine a town person would approach a mayor game in this fashion. So.. your town. Why is this such a bad accusation that you are willing to delurk to voice concern. Actually fuck that Grack. If you are so certain it is bad play I want him lynched... Who do YOU want lynched as of now.
I don't think that's true at all. Lots of townies push RNG normally including myself. You posted a long fluffy post with 3 weak points.
Storrzerg played the noob card- It's not scummy for newbs to use the noob card.
He added the word for between hunt scum - wat?
He thinks it would be a good idea to suggest RNG to raise activity - How does that make him scum?
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On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta.
Oats baby.
Read my case again
I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game.
He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.
Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E
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On November 15 2013 11:50 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Well town do it regardless of whether they need to do it or not just as much as scum do...but I like that you're at least considering town motivation for things that's awesome. So you say leaning scum on Sharrant but not really sure. I'd probably buy that for a dollar. What do you think about Alakaslam? @ Oats: as I am also curious, if I am suspiciously more coherent even than at Resistance don't worry, it is actually the complete removal of stress over mafia. I am thinking with a whole and complete head, and this may be gone given the wrong pressures.
Now that you've caught up I want you to tell me who you're suspicious of. Failing that, tell me who you're considering to vote for mayor. And if you fail that, I swear on everything that is holy I will convince BH to run for mayor, I will ensure he wins and I'll make it my mission to see that he lynches you.
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On November 15 2013 11:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:46 Alakaslam wrote:Caught up. I don't trust VE but I don't think he is scum yet. I don't claim to be able to read him; this is just a pair of Lincoln coppers I used to own. Coag, I will probably do that, in inside jokes dispersed here an  Blazinghand d there, if you want to waste your tunnel on me over that know that it is a waste, therefore antitown unless there are reasons to think I would THE GREAT bloody cobbler as scum- so give reasons why that is a valid reason to tunnel me if that is an honest threat. That being said, I'm moving on to the vote thread after a bit more deliberation So no comments about anyone's alignment whatsoever after making a big show of catching up and finally getting caught up. Noted.
Fine, "upgrade you to scum" since it is impossible to not make a determination by 12 pages into day one.
Logic misuse noted.
Anyway, I am still waiting on developments with the apparent "Storrzerg is new" situation. How new is he actually?
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I dont see much different from normal Alak tbh
Do you have a special way of reading him VE?
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On November 15 2013 11:45 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:44 Grackaroni wrote:On November 15 2013 11:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 15 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:On November 15 2013 11:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 15 2013 11:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Mocsta can you explain more simply why Storrzerg is scum. what is the difference between hunting for scum and wanting to hunt scum?
What's so compelling about Mocsta's StorrZerg suspicion that you should comment on that and not any of the other suspicions being flown around? This might be the first post in which you don't mention Kush. It's the worst accusation I've seen. Okay, so why are you asking him to convince you that Storr is scum? Shouldn't you be like, saying Kush should lynch Mocsta or something? My point is that you broke character for that - like maybe Storr IS scum and you panicked. But you know how association cases go. I'd lynch you before Storr because I think you breaking character for that one clarification/whatever is more telling than Storr playing the newb card. I'd like to talk to him about his case? I'm not role playing or something I just post what I want. I know but what you've wanted to post up to now has been "LOL ELECT KUSH WHATEVER THE FUCK" and now that Mocsta has brought up StorrZerg, now it's srs bsns. I know you're not role-playing, it's just a shift in mindset. A SHIFTY shift imo.
But was it Shifty or Shifty ?
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On November 15 2013 11:55 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:50 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 11:44 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Well town do it regardless of whether they need to do it or not just as much as scum do...but I like that you're at least considering town motivation for things that's awesome. So you say leaning scum on Sharrant but not really sure. I'd probably buy that for a dollar. What do you think about Alakaslam? @ Oats: as I am also curious, if I am suspiciously more coherent even than at Resistance don't worry, it is actually the complete removal of stress over mafia. I am thinking with a whole and complete head, and this may be gone given the wrong pressures. Now that you've caught up I want you to tell me who you're suspicious of. Failing that, tell me who you're considering to vote for mayor. And if you fail that, I swear on everything that is holy I will convince BH to run for mayor, I will ensure he wins and I'll make it my mission to see that he lynches you.
Well, you were my vet pick, I hadn't made a mid pick but was leaning Koshi or Holyflare.
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On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.
Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E
I dont even know what you are talking about.
Did storrzerg open the same in all of his town games? And open differently in all of his scum games?
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On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game. Oats, shy are you so prickly this game. Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous. Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E
I can answer this. Oats doesn't like that I'm judgemental about his play. I'm trying really hard to reign it in, but the fact remains that he's felt slighted by me in the past. We recently won a game where we were scum together and in spite of winning together, I still managed to touch a couple of nerves.
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well yeah you called me bad VE.
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Oats gets the "worst player of the game" award though for essentially claiming scum this last day when he could have instead easily set up a DBZ/Oats dichotomy for the last team by just shutting the hell up.
Even though I totally played the best distancing game ever.
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On November 15 2013 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see much different from normal Alak tbh
Do you have a special way of reading him VE?
This is an immediate red flag. This is the first game ever- literally the first game ever where I have not been insane troll logic spewing left and right. I don't know that you could possibly be reading me this game, I haven't posted a single YouTube video or reference to "page 35", or anything TL about me here. As for OMGUS where are the CHUPAZI spam, the pictures of vultures crows and cockfights, the talking about nitrogen and all manner of random BS?
So here is who I'd vote to lynch right here VE how convenient
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On November 15 2013 11:54 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:47 Mocsta wrote:On November 15 2013 11:38 Grackaroni wrote:On November 15 2013 11:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 15 2013 11:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Mocsta can you explain more simply why Storrzerg is scum. what is the difference between hunting for scum and wanting to hunt scum?
What's so compelling about Mocsta's StorrZerg suspicion that you should comment on that and not any of the other suspicions being flown around? This might be the first post in which you don't mention Kush. It's the worst accusation I've seen. O really..... Storrzerg could be town making a selfish play for mayor. I can dig that, been there done that. I actually acknowledged this in my post. However, what I identified after a filter dive is that aside from a game plan to campaign for mayor his choice of play is pro town. Every game I have played in, it has always been scum pushing rng... Myself included in that increasingly larger subset. Storrzerg positions himself as a reliable scum hunter, asserting that unknowns yamato and VE would vote for him. Then spins this around proposing RNG on the basis of forcing activity. Yeah... I don't buy this, and neither should anyone else. It's a cheap cop out and I can not imagine a town person would approach a mayor game in this fashion. So.. your town. Why is this such a bad accusation that you are willing to delurk to voice concern. Actually fuck that Grack. If you are so certain it is bad play I want him lynched... Who do YOU want lynched as of now. I don't think that's true at all. Lots of townies push RNG normally including myself. You posted a long fluffy post with 3 weak points. Storrzerg played the noob card- It's not scummy for newbs to use the noob card. He added the word for between hunt scum - wat? He thinks it would be a good idea to suggest RNG to raise activity - How does that make him scum?
Damn auto correct some of the above came out wrong.
Ohh well.
Storrzerg isn't a noob. Anyways. This is pointless. I have identified my grievances with storrzerg and am somewhat surprised that you and oats are trying to cockblock storrzerg from having to respond.
I don't like this from either of you.
My suggestion is to shut up and let storrzerg respond. You can reassess your reads from there.
In the meantime. Grack. You dodged my question.
Who do YOU want to lynch, cos all I'm hearing is who you don't.
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Mocsta I disagree with you.
I think Storr could be scum, but it's not certain yet and your reasons are pretty weak.
You say he plays the noob card, but he did it in regards to "why not vote a noob like me mayor  " which doesn't help his cause which is what scum would normally do. Not inconceivable he just did it inherently but doesn't mean he's scum for that.
Second I think you nitpick too much, he said he was still going to hunt for scum, hunt for scum is the same as hunting even when he said RNG, I think that's a bit too suspicious to say for a mayor canidateship.
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On November 15 2013 10:53 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
By the way.: Everyone who votes outside voting for mig, BC, BlazingHand, or myself is playing antitown.
At least, I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. I fixed this for you, retaining all of your true intent, adding some compatible intent in te form of an inside joke, and containing equally flawed logic. Wouldn't it be convenient if this was the scum team? Highly unlikely, but then it is highly unlikely that any single player is scum- yet there is a guarantee of at least one. Therefore, you should elect players based on what they say, being WARY of those who have shown exceptional skill as well as those who have little or no skill. In fact, we want an absolute moderate with regard to meta until a veteran has sufficiently shown themselves to be town to earn our trust- in which case a veteran becomes ideal. This point is why I usually talk about Svengali at some point. However, that is just an attempt to sound laughable- a meta I plan to give one last ditch effort to destroy here before turning wholly to co/hosting games with the very occasional /in. Therefore, I will from now on refer to it thus; "The Peid Piper Problem". The pied piper mislead a bunch of rats through skill; so also can forum vets who rolled scum. I'm not an Assassin, therefore I'm not running for mayor. That was the only case in which I actually planned to run. I am still catching up.
On November 15 2013 11:05 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown. On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate. Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you? Seriously yamato... Yeah, super's mafia. oh god, you're reatarded. I disagree. Either: He is right, you are scum, Or: He is wrong, you both interact poorly here Or: He is not only wrong, but he is intentionally wrong and actually Pied-Pipering you. Or: something else. But VE is far from idiocy, I can give you am example of idiocy in a heartbeat and in fact will do so. Game: Newbie Mini Mafia XLVIII Filter: Alakaslam Game: Aperture Mafia 2: Part 2 Filter: Alakaslam For alignment specific idiocy. Do not insult needlessly.
On November 15 2013 11:46 Alakaslam wrote:Caught up. I don't trust VE but I don't think he is scum yet. I don't claim to be able to read him; this is just a pair of Lincoln coppers I used to own. Coag, I will probably do that, in inside jokes dispersed here an Blazinghand d there, if you want to waste your tunnel on me over that know that it is a waste, therefore antitown unless there are reasons to think I would THE GREAT bloody cobbler as scum- so give reasons why that is a valid reason to tunnel me if that is an honest threat. That being said, I'm moving on to the vote thread after a bit more deliberation
looks the same to me.
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On November 15 2013 12:01 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see much different from normal Alak tbh
Do you have a special way of reading him VE? This is an immediate red flag. This is the first game ever- literally the first game ever where I have not been insane troll logic spewing left and right. I don't know that you could possibly be reading me this game, I haven't posted a single YouTube video or reference to "page 35", or anything TL about me here. As for OMGUS where are the CHUPAZI spam, the pictures of vultures crows and cockfights, the talking about nitrogen and all manner of random BS? So here is who I'd vote to lynch right here VE how convenient
Short of resistance but I still wasn't trying as hard to be downright cold as this game.
I agree with VE that I will gladly be an ass in mafia but I also agree with Coag that I have Laugh USA in my radio for that and John Pinette is as much funnier than I am as he is heavier.
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fml I had to write this out twice because I had so many tabs open ~_~
@ rayn's post earlier: Here
You claim that my case was in fact bad but then you agree with everything that I had specifically laid out within it, what gives? Did you just not read it? Clearly there were no good reads at that present time and for a mayor to be established reads must be thrown around, which is exactly what I was saying. Your choice of mayor is based entirely off if you agree with their reads? Why?
You also debase the entirety of it because of the one line that said if "I failed to lynch my top scum readS". The plurality in reads assumes that one would live past day 1 and be able to use their double voting power as you cannot lynch multiple reads on day 1.
There is also:
On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1.
You were scum partners with risen in heavyweight. You know he is crazy and will literally do anything or write anything to win. How can you be so quick to have a town read on him based off of a post? He has won world champs and also has the "best mafia play" award or whatever. To quite openly say you will not read him for the rest of day 1 is making me apprehensive to say the least.
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@rest of the town
Also some other things that struck me as odd;
Hopeless' start to the game:
On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run?
I've played one game with this guy and in that game (he was town) at the very start he was trying to contribute to current conversations and get things talking. This games start has been very lackluster from him. After asking VE about his past mayor games VE responds that he has been mayor once and he died night 1.
By no means are they solid credentials in any terms. His contributions were just useless "won't vote for kush" posts. He then drops his mayor vote onto VE after hearing about his 1 game experience and leaves the thread.
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I'm actually leaning a bit more suspiciously towards rayn right now; however I thought it was interesting to see these 2 posts just as I refreshed.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn. You get modkilled for not voting. :p
What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually. On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E
Obviously no associative tells between unflipped players yada yada but I find it "psychologically intriguing" when people bring up similarities like that. Obviously if you are scum, the posts that stick out to you the most are your scum partners and so you can subconsciously repeat them etc. However, this is a lackluster point to say the least just something I'd thought I'd note.
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On November 15 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 10:53 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
By the way.: Everyone who votes outside voting for mig, BC, BlazingHand, or myself is playing antitown.
At least, I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. I fixed this for you, retaining all of your true intent, adding some compatible intent in te form of an inside joke, and containing equally flawed logic. Wouldn't it be convenient if this was the scum team? Highly unlikely, but then it is highly unlikely that any single player is scum- yet there is a guarantee of at least one. Therefore, you should elect players based on what they say, being WARY of those who have shown exceptional skill as well as those who have little or no skill. In fact, we want an absolute moderate with regard to meta until a veteran has sufficiently shown themselves to be town to earn our trust- in which case a veteran becomes ideal. This point is why I usually talk about Svengali at some point. However, that is just an attempt to sound laughable- a meta I plan to give one last ditch effort to destroy here before turning wholly to co/hosting games with the very occasional /in. Therefore, I will from now on refer to it thus; "The Peid Piper Problem". The pied piper mislead a bunch of rats through skill; so also can forum vets who rolled scum. I'm not an Assassin, therefore I'm not running for mayor. That was the only case in which I actually planned to run. I am still catching up. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown. On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate. Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you? Seriously yamato... Yeah, super's mafia. oh god, you're reatarded. I disagree. Either: He is right, you are scum, Or: He is wrong, you both interact poorly here Or: He is not only wrong, but he is intentionally wrong and actually Pied-Pipering you. Or: something else. But VE is far from idiocy, I can give you am example of idiocy in a heartbeat and in fact will do so. Game: Newbie Mini Mafia XLVIII Filter: Alakaslam Game: Aperture Mafia 2: Part 2 Filter: Alakaslam For alignment specific idiocy. Do not insult needlessly. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:46 Alakaslam wrote:Caught up. I don't trust VE but I don't think he is scum yet. I don't claim to be able to read him; this is just a pair of Lincoln coppers I used to own. Coag, I will probably do that, in inside jokes dispersed here an Blazinghand d there, if you want to waste your tunnel on me over that know that it is a waste, therefore antitown unless there are reasons to think I would THE GREAT bloody cobbler as scum- so give reasons why that is a valid reason to tunnel me if that is an honest threat. That being said, I'm moving on to the vote thread after a bit more deliberation looks the same to me.
The last one is the only one I could conceivably see as being similar
Did you even understand me before? Or do I still fail to get my thoughts across?
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aaaaandddd yeh it's like 5 fucking pages later of course -.-
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