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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 15 2013 02:05 GMT
#501
On November 15 2013 10:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless, Onegu and Koshi played with me in withcraft. I don't remember if someone else is in this game. Why?

Why?
Why?
You ask Why?

Lol mattchew, make your jokes more obvious.

No gg, No skill.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 02:05 GMT
#502
On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

Yeah, super's mafia.


oh god, you're reatarded.

I disagree.

Either: He is right, you are scum,
Or: He is wrong, you both interact poorly here
Or: He is not only wrong, but he is intentionally wrong and actually Pied-Pipering you.

Or: something else. But VE is far from idiocy, I can give you am example of idiocy in a heartbeat and in fact will do so.

Game: Newbie Mini Mafia XLVIII
Filter: Alakaslam

Game: Aperture Mafia 2: Part 2
Filter: Alakaslam

For alignment specific idiocy.

Do not insult needlessly.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 15 2013 02:05 GMT
#503
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 02:06 GMT
#504
Firstly,
I am announcing my intention to run for mayor.

My campaign is a simple one.
I will play my normal game: pressure/hunt scum openly in the thread.
This person will then create the justification for my votes as mayor.

Having said that, the goal of this game is not to lynch scum day1, but to lynch scum repeatedly.
If an alternative <more popular> candidate will lynch my day1 target, then; I am willing to step down.


Secondly,

Once there are two or three front-runners for the mayor candidacy (perhaps in 24hrs time), we need to start discussing how to handle the pardoner situation.

The typical solutions are:
(1) Put the day1 lynch target as pardoner, so we remove the role from the game
(2) If there is a very-strong town read on someone worth NK'n, make them the pardoner so they get the NK protection.

As stated before, there is no point discussing this until the game develops more.


Lastly,
I present my best read:

On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?
On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
Kill people who claim to be mafia

claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

hunt scum

lynch them with fire


This conversation stuck out to me, enough to warrant a filter-dive.

Its hard to give an opinion on Mig. What he said is pro-town, but its also the general spiel either alignment can spew.
Will need to see more from Mig to form an opinion, however.....

What I am more concerned about is Storrzerg.
Specifically:
On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

The justification presented for an rng lynch (" it keeps people active") is a' token gesture' at best, and 'devoid of any responsibility' at worst. --> I deem this to irrevocably satisfy scum motivations.

Compare Storrzerg to Hogwarts.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&currentpage=41#814
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2013 05:51 StorrZerg wrote:
i still think sn0 man is the best lynch atm

Firstly his Stance on HufflePuff

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing


Such a think is uncalled for specifically since "Hufflepuff has produced the fewest Dark wizards of all the four Houses, if any."


Thus my scum meeter was going nuts, now this isn't enough for a day 1 lynch but it is a very good start.
After I called him out, he ignored me and made this very weird post.

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 08:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Theres a certain amount of scum motivation to not trying the pickup line challenge simply because you feel like another house could be influenced more easily by scum. Since a scum player would know which house had the most scummers in it (and/or the least strong town)


Again, this post just read really weird to me.


So i checked his post history in previous games, and imo doesn't line up with his town. (usually he has more effort into his posts longer posts etc) He hadn't done anything till i called him out which his next post was

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 08:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:16 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:15 I-be-Pro wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:01 I-be-Pro wrote:
Anyways, that's it for me, have to wake up in 7 hours again. Something that might be interesting from my QT or might just be plainly nothing:

Skanjab1s asked if I am I-be-Pro (I called myself Toad in the QT... sry) - nothing wrong with this one at all, despite my recent attacks against him.
snowman answered that question with a positive (trying to rephrase here...)

Think he has been reading the thread and is actively lurking atm. Make of that what you want. I don't have the time to type any more tonight, sry.


If you think is nothing wrong with it, then why bother posting it at all? Seems rather pointless, no?

It's how I play d1. I make a big deal out of very minor things to make people talk about things happening in the thread instead of talking about politics/house-quests or whatever else. The intention is to get some reactions from people and have a quick start into d1. Some people have to start the discussion somehow and I usually take that as my job on d1.

Means I'm usually a big meanie on d1 and I'm often times stating things that look like nothing to people and they're hardly anything else to me most of the time as well. But I find that a lot better than having a discussion the first 24 hours about some weird plan of someone because people have to commit somewhat the way I'm doing things.

I might add it is currently working but now I'm really sleeping


So your plan for catching scum is "post things that aren't important, because then people will talk about unimportant things and that will give me reads"

Why don't you 1-up him by posting important things?



He then pretty much goes dark after that.

I will conclude my thoughts with he is none other than Slytherin scum.
(btw this just so happens to have the house with the most notorious dark wizards in our world. He is very well a puppet to his parents)

ps
die scum




In one of his first posts he plays balls-to-the-wall and presents a scum read with analysis.

In this game we get:
On November 15 2013 08:36 StorrZerg wrote:
yamato77 will have to back me as well.

he knows that I hunt for scum.

also we should lynch people who claim mafia, 100% pro town tip
Generic spiel + potential scum slip.
The town mentality is " hunt scum"
Hunting "for" scum, as a first post is.. interesting

On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?



Kill people who claim to be mafia

claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

hunt scum

lynch them with fire

As explained prior, RNG for lynch does not share congruence with his attitude to "hunt scum"
But is congruent with "hunting for scum"

On November 15 2013 08:43 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:38 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?

We could reasonably select mayors based on how much we like their lynch choices.

That will be my main platform, anyway. Any political support I give should I step out of the race would have to be to a player I think is actually going to lynch mafia.


How about an active guy?
a guy that is looking out for the town because he is town!


time to let some fresh blood lead the town straight and true
im the clear and easy town read, no chance to be scum.

More generic spiel. Since when is activity an indicator of alignment for the majority of players?

On November 15 2013 09:50 StorrZerg wrote:
Joke
ill be great
whywon't peoplee let the scrub give it a go
I'll try and make a bigger impact tomorrow, today is just not good for posting
First he wants to be mayor due to "hunting for scum"
Secondly, his justification is "to give a scrub a shot".
Thirdly, Playing the n00b card??



Storrzerg clearly has no motivation to scum hunt.
I get that his posting was early Day1 -- perhaps there was nothing to "focus" on.
However, each of his posts has exhibited a mindset not conducive to finding scum, let alone lynch scum.

His platform is a RNG lynch hidden behind newbie undertones, and ultimately:

where I stand currently with my mayor target is: Storrzerg
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 15 2013 02:07 GMT
#505
On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn.

You get modkilled for not voting. :p

What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 15 2013 02:11 GMT
#506
On November 15 2013 11:06 Mocsta wrote:
Firstly,
I am announcing my intention to run for mayor.

My campaign is a simple one.
I will play my normal game: pressure/hunt scum openly in the thread.
This person will then create the justification for my votes as mayor.

Having said that, the goal of this game is not to lynch scum day1, but to lynch scum repeatedly.
If an alternative <more popular> candidate will lynch my day1 target, then; I am willing to step down.


Secondly,

Once there are two or three front-runners for the mayor candidacy (perhaps in 24hrs time), we need to start discussing how to handle the pardoner situation.

The typical solutions are:
(1) Put the day1 lynch target as pardoner, so we remove the role from the game
(2) If there is a very-strong town read on someone worth NK'n, make them the pardoner so they get the NK protection.

As stated before, there is no point discussing this until the game develops more.


Lastly,
I present my best read:

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
Kill people who claim to be mafia

claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

hunt scum

lynch them with fire


This conversation stuck out to me, enough to warrant a filter-dive.

Its hard to give an opinion on Mig. What he said is pro-town, but its also the general spiel either alignment can spew.
Will need to see more from Mig to form an opinion, however.....

What I am more concerned about is Storrzerg.
Specifically:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

The justification presented for an rng lynch (" it keeps people active") is a' token gesture' at best, and 'devoid of any responsibility' at worst. --> I deem this to irrevocably satisfy scum motivations.

Compare Storrzerg to Hogwarts.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052&currentpage=41#814
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2013 05:51 StorrZerg wrote:
i still think sn0 man is the best lynch atm

Firstly his Stance on HufflePuff

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing


Such a think is uncalled for specifically since "Hufflepuff has produced the fewest Dark wizards of all the four Houses, if any."


Thus my scum meeter was going nuts, now this isn't enough for a day 1 lynch but it is a very good start.
After I called him out, he ignored me and made this very weird post.

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 08:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Theres a certain amount of scum motivation to not trying the pickup line challenge simply because you feel like another house could be influenced more easily by scum. Since a scum player would know which house had the most scummers in it (and/or the least strong town)


Again, this post just read really weird to me.


So i checked his post history in previous games, and imo doesn't line up with his town. (usually he has more effort into his posts longer posts etc) He hadn't done anything till i called him out which his next post was

Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 08:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:16 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:15 I-be-Pro wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 08:01 I-be-Pro wrote:
Anyways, that's it for me, have to wake up in 7 hours again. Something that might be interesting from my QT or might just be plainly nothing:

Skanjab1s asked if I am I-be-Pro (I called myself Toad in the QT... sry) - nothing wrong with this one at all, despite my recent attacks against him.
snowman answered that question with a positive (trying to rephrase here...)

Think he has been reading the thread and is actively lurking atm. Make of that what you want. I don't have the time to type any more tonight, sry.


If you think is nothing wrong with it, then why bother posting it at all? Seems rather pointless, no?

It's how I play d1. I make a big deal out of very minor things to make people talk about things happening in the thread instead of talking about politics/house-quests or whatever else. The intention is to get some reactions from people and have a quick start into d1. Some people have to start the discussion somehow and I usually take that as my job on d1.

Means I'm usually a big meanie on d1 and I'm often times stating things that look like nothing to people and they're hardly anything else to me most of the time as well. But I find that a lot better than having a discussion the first 24 hours about some weird plan of someone because people have to commit somewhat the way I'm doing things.

I might add it is currently working but now I'm really sleeping


So your plan for catching scum is "post things that aren't important, because then people will talk about unimportant things and that will give me reads"

Why don't you 1-up him by posting important things?



He then pretty much goes dark after that.

I will conclude my thoughts with he is none other than Slytherin scum.
(btw this just so happens to have the house with the most notorious dark wizards in our world. He is very well a puppet to his parents)

ps
die scum




In one of his first posts he plays balls-to-the-wall and presents a scum read with analysis.

In this game we get:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:36 StorrZerg wrote:
yamato77 will have to back me as well.

he knows that I hunt for scum.

also we should lynch people who claim mafia, 100% pro town tip
Generic spiel + potential scum slip.
The town mentality is " hunt scum"
Hunting "for" scum, as a first post is.. interesting

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?



Kill people who claim to be mafia

claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

hunt scum

lynch them with fire

As explained prior, RNG for lynch does not share congruence with his attitude to "hunt scum"
But is congruent with "hunting for scum"

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:43 StorrZerg wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:38 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?

We could reasonably select mayors based on how much we like their lynch choices.

That will be my main platform, anyway. Any political support I give should I step out of the race would have to be to a player I think is actually going to lynch mafia.


How about an active guy?
a guy that is looking out for the town because he is town!


time to let some fresh blood lead the town straight and true
im the clear and easy town read, no chance to be scum.

More generic spiel. Since when is activity an indicator of alignment for the majority of players?

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:50 StorrZerg wrote:
Joke
ill be great
whywon't peoplee let the scrub give it a go
I'll try and make a bigger impact tomorrow, today is just not good for posting
First he wants to be mayor due to "hunting for scum"
Secondly, his justification is "to give a scrub a shot".
Thirdly, Playing the n00b card??



Storrzerg clearly has no motivation to scum hunt.
I get that his posting was early Day1 -- perhaps there was nothing to "focus" on.
However, each of his posts has exhibited a mindset not conducive to finding scum, let alone lynch scum.

His platform is a RNG lynch hidden behind newbie undertones, and ultimately:

where I stand currently with my mayor target is: Storrzerg

No matter what you do or say, I won't vote you for mayor this game because I hold grudges and last time I gave you the benefit of the doubt I got burned when an ounce of the same from you could have swung the game in our favor; get punished for that act now and it is expunged.

That being said, I'm interested to see StorrZerg actually provide some content before deciding whether I think he's mafia - content with regard to others' alignment and what he thinks about it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 15 2013 02:12 GMT
#507
hm mocsta is either scum for jumping on lynchbait or town jumping on lynchbait.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 15 2013 02:12 GMT
#508
lol what VE. Grow up pls.
No gg, No skill.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 15 2013 02:13 GMT
#509
On November 15 2013 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol what VE. Grow up pls.

What? I'm saying I can't trust him to do as he says because he's clearly willing to lie as a townie when it matters. He's gotta earn that shit back.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 15 2013 02:15 GMT
#510
So you think hes town. Why?
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 15 2013 02:16 GMT
#511
On November 15 2013 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
hm mocsta is either scum for jumping on lynchbait or town jumping on lynchbait.

So classic chainsaw defending oats is back in town.

Gg too easy.

Nice attempt to belittle my case. Storrzerg is an experienced player. Far from lynch bait.

Want to have another go and explain why you disagree with my findings.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 15 2013 02:16 GMT
#512
On November 15 2013 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
So you think hes town. Why?

I'm saying if he's scum I don't want him as mayor and if he's town I can't trust him to be mayor. I haven't said anything about his alignment.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 15 2013 02:18 GMT
#513
VE u should come on irc with me its pretty lonely there.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 15 2013 02:18 GMT
#514
Well at least I would just be ghosting while reading the game so I don't know that would be much of an improvement.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 15 2013 02:18 GMT
#515
On November 15 2013 11:16 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
hm mocsta is either scum for jumping on lynchbait or town jumping on lynchbait.

So classic chainsaw defending oats is back in town.

Gg too easy.

Nice attempt to belittle my case. Storrzerg is an experienced player. Far from lynch bait.

Want to have another go and explain why you disagree with my findings.

So am I scum or am I bad?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 15 2013 02:19 GMT
#516
On November 15 2013 11:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
So you think hes town. Why?

I'm saying if he's scum I don't want him as mayor and if he's town I can't trust him to be mayor. I haven't said anything about his alignment.

yeah that makes sense.

What do you think his alignment is?
No gg, No skill.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 15 2013 02:21 GMT
#517
Mocsta: StorrZerg, while being an experienced player, I think is a little intimidated by the format change. I don't think saying "Give the new guy a chance" while he's running for mayor is admissible as "playing the newb card" anyway.

And please don't get into it with Oats dude - I'm barely restraining myself as it is.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 15 2013 02:22 GMT
#518
On November 15 2013 11:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 11:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 11:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
So you think hes town. Why?

I'm saying if he's scum I don't want him as mayor and if he's town I can't trust him to be mayor. I haven't said anything about his alignment.

yeah that makes sense.

What do you think his alignment is?

I'm leaning town but obviously my regard for Mocsta's scumplay is known so it's tenuous.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 15 2013 02:29 GMT
#519
Mocsta can you explain more simply why Storrzerg is scum. what is the difference between hunting for scum and wanting to hunt scum?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 15 2013 02:31 GMT
#520
On November 15 2013 09:21 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

This is false. Please address the post where I explain what my reasoning for not liking your statement actually is.


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On November 15 2013 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Fuck this. This is garbage.


You mean this peace of wisdom???

VE not coming out so great on this either.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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