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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:49 GMT
#5641
On November 23 2013 09:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:45 austinmcc wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:44 Mig wrote:
Vayne/austin Vote Risen? Austin you said we should consolidate votes. Voting thrawn is not consolidating.
I don't want to lynch risen. I would rather consolidate onto rayn.

Of course you would because you are fucking scum.


yeah yeah everyone is scum. we get it. Now shut up and live! I'll save your ass you annoying bummer.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 23 2013 00:49 GMT
#5642
Bc why you ignoring me!
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 23 2013 00:49 GMT
#5643
[image loading]
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 23 2013 00:49 GMT
#5644
Rayn you can also save yourself if you just vote Risen
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:50 GMT
#5645
On November 23 2013 09:49 Coagulation wrote:
[image loading]


nice, can you make me one of these, too?
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:50 GMT
#5646
On November 23 2013 09:48 Mig wrote:
BC why arent you switching. You have pandain as 100% town?


because I was responding to people? jesus dude.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 23 2013 00:51 GMT
#5647
Ok sorry.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 23 2013 00:51 GMT
#5648
On November 23 2013 09:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:44 austinmcc wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:37 austinmcc wrote:
I still want to lynch BC instead of oats. If I am wrong about things then so be it, but he has been waffling all over "I haven't played a good town game in forever" and "Guys here are my reads and last testament you can win the game if you just follow them," artanis got RBed, BC hasn't been a LARGE factor in the game or been shot, SOMEONE(s) that is relatively veteran-y and somewhat active probably gets put in the mafia group (I don't count coag as a vet for this purpose because I haven't seen him play active scum/help his scum team (tee hee); mig is out for me as a strong townread).


BC has had a number of large-ish, well-reasoned, good lookin' posts. But when he's casually discussing things and active in thread, it tends to be focused on a limited range of topics - his own defense, grack, and earlier today, mig. Maybe he's on to stuff, but I feel like his sexy looking posts are markedly different from his casual posts, and that makes me worried that he's packaging the posts he really needs to make in order to look decent, drawing them up ahead of time, and dropping them to convince people, then dipping out of the thread. If the very convincing posts weren't usually made after long absences, I'd be...more inclined to believe them? Or if they were sloppy or something? I'm pretty sure I do actually believe this.


I totally feel why you would feel this way. My only issue with this I a) have been a large factor. Just not in the way you would hope for (being a prime suspect sucks but is still a large part), and b) not being shot theoretically puts you, mig, me all in the same boat as scummyness. I would mention SS as well but well he has pardoner vet vest.

Also austin. I recognize you can feel the difference in my posts. I would too. Given that any post I write that's larger then say, 5-10 lines is something I generally spend 30 minutes to an hour just writing, not counting any work gone into filter diving. Its a ton of work, and requires me to spend far more time writing them. I think you can appreciate this as you would know it to be true from doing your own analytical work. Casual posts are things you write quickly.

You also shouldn't be blaming me for long absences and huge posts when multiple players are also guilty of this. I am fine with you targetting me but if you are nailing me for certain aspects you should also be looking at others in the same light.
I feel that almost all my medium and large-size posts are rushed through, have some poor reasoning in them, and are often difficult to follow. I am TERRIBLE at crafting a really nice-reading post, and if I craft something, it tends to be for maximum stupidity. But...I understand what you're saying, and agree that it SHOULD be that way.

I totally agree on the absences thing, and it IS something that I'm looking at or will be looking at. I've got vayne/cheese/you/thrawn/onegu as people who really disappeared for times today. You had way more ... legitimate posts/reads than the rest in that group, most of the rest threw a couple posts together and whooshed away. To some extent, a couple mafia in that group explains why reads are so confused and most people feel like they're chasing their tails today.


can I just ask you this one thing for clarification. Why would you just say that of a group of people you are pinning as scum for a largely selected behaviour are you opting to lynch the one performing the most town? I get that I'm a dead man now but I really want to know your thought process on it
I think that you have other indicia I'm working off of.

Vayne/Cheese/Onegu all fit the bill for what I'm looking for.

Thrawn fits the bill but ALSO has his reaction to pandain/me lacking reads, and his odd reaction to your posts on mocsta/grack meta (which I disagree with, and if you're scummy, indicates that he is likely scum because his reaction was so different than others).

You get voted over those dudes because - (1) I was already looking at you; (2) stuff last night with Artanis's shot; (3) the mayoral votes are wonky and it feels like scum should have TRIED to get a candidate elected at some point or another, and you sort of fit that; (4) people who got shot last night had you as mafia; (5) some is pure expectations, which are higher of you (from me), than cheese or onegu.
Fe fi fo fum.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 23 2013 00:51 GMT
#5649
On November 23 2013 09:50 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:49 Coagulation wrote:
[image loading]


nice, can you make me one of these, too?


Yeah man. I will make 1 for everybody in game and we all post em and whoever cant is scum.

mafia solved.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 23 2013 00:51 GMT
#5650
Vote Count:


Pandain (5): Risen, Hopeless1der, raynpelikoneet, Coagulation, Risen, Pandain, thrawn2112, LoneMeow

Grackaroni (2): Risen, BloodyC0bbler, Koshi, Coagulation

BloodyC0bbler (10): VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, Mr. Cheesecake, austinmcc, Mig, Grackaroni, Koshi, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Mr. Cheesecake, Pandain, Holyflare, LoneMeow, thrawn2112, Hopeless1der

LoneMeow (2): VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, Mr. Cheesecake

supersoft (0): Risen, Koshi, Koshi, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Hopeless1der, Risen

Mig (1): BloodyC0bbler, Oatsmaster

Coagulation (0): Grackaroni, Oatsmaster

VayneAuthority (0): Koshi, Mr. Cheesecake, Koshi, Alakaslam

raynpelikoneet (5): Alakaslam, Koshi, Mr Cheesecake, Pandain, Koshi, Pandain, Alakaslam, Risen

Oatsmaster (2): Alakaslam, supersoft, Risen

Risen (6): Oatsmaster, Mig, supersoft, Alakaslam, Pandain, Holyflare, Onegu, supersoft, Grackaroni, VayneAuthority, BloodyC0bbler

Alakaslam (0): VayneAuthority, Risen, raynpelikoneet

Onegu (1): Oatsmaster

Koshi (0): Onegu

Holyflare (1): Onegu, Risen

austinmcc (1): Onegu

thrawn2112 (1): austinmcc

Not voting (1 vote):: Alakaslam (1),


Deadline is in . Voting is mandatory.

Currently
BloodyC0bbler and Risen are set to be lynched! If you see a vote out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:52 GMT
#5651
You realize its reasons like that, that I suspect you right? It likely shouldn't but it bothers the fuck out of me
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 23 2013 00:52 GMT
#5652
On November 23 2013 09:49 Mig wrote:
Rayn you can also save yourself if you just vote Risen

But i don't think he is scum so i won't.
table for two on a tv tray
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:53 GMT
#5653
I am so sad right now...
I am either terribly wrong and BC played me like a fiddle or I am right and we're lynching this dude who is in my eyes one of the most helpful and friendly players in this town

BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:54 GMT
#5654
On November 23 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:44 austinmcc wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:37 austinmcc wrote:
I still want to lynch BC instead of oats. If I am wrong about things then so be it, but he has been waffling all over "I haven't played a good town game in forever" and "Guys here are my reads and last testament you can win the game if you just follow them," artanis got RBed, BC hasn't been a LARGE factor in the game or been shot, SOMEONE(s) that is relatively veteran-y and somewhat active probably gets put in the mafia group (I don't count coag as a vet for this purpose because I haven't seen him play active scum/help his scum team (tee hee); mig is out for me as a strong townread).


BC has had a number of large-ish, well-reasoned, good lookin' posts. But when he's casually discussing things and active in thread, it tends to be focused on a limited range of topics - his own defense, grack, and earlier today, mig. Maybe he's on to stuff, but I feel like his sexy looking posts are markedly different from his casual posts, and that makes me worried that he's packaging the posts he really needs to make in order to look decent, drawing them up ahead of time, and dropping them to convince people, then dipping out of the thread. If the very convincing posts weren't usually made after long absences, I'd be...more inclined to believe them? Or if they were sloppy or something? I'm pretty sure I do actually believe this.


I totally feel why you would feel this way. My only issue with this I a) have been a large factor. Just not in the way you would hope for (being a prime suspect sucks but is still a large part), and b) not being shot theoretically puts you, mig, me all in the same boat as scummyness. I would mention SS as well but well he has pardoner vet vest.

Also austin. I recognize you can feel the difference in my posts. I would too. Given that any post I write that's larger then say, 5-10 lines is something I generally spend 30 minutes to an hour just writing, not counting any work gone into filter diving. Its a ton of work, and requires me to spend far more time writing them. I think you can appreciate this as you would know it to be true from doing your own analytical work. Casual posts are things you write quickly.

You also shouldn't be blaming me for long absences and huge posts when multiple players are also guilty of this. I am fine with you targetting me but if you are nailing me for certain aspects you should also be looking at others in the same light.
I feel that almost all my medium and large-size posts are rushed through, have some poor reasoning in them, and are often difficult to follow. I am TERRIBLE at crafting a really nice-reading post, and if I craft something, it tends to be for maximum stupidity. But...I understand what you're saying, and agree that it SHOULD be that way.

I totally agree on the absences thing, and it IS something that I'm looking at or will be looking at. I've got vayne/cheese/you/thrawn/onegu as people who really disappeared for times today. You had way more ... legitimate posts/reads than the rest in that group, most of the rest threw a couple posts together and whooshed away. To some extent, a couple mafia in that group explains why reads are so confused and most people feel like they're chasing their tails today.


can I just ask you this one thing for clarification. Why would you just say that of a group of people you are pinning as scum for a largely selected behaviour are you opting to lynch the one performing the most town? I get that I'm a dead man now but I really want to know your thought process on it
I think that you have other indicia I'm working off of.

Vayne/Cheese/Onegu all fit the bill for what I'm looking for.

Thrawn fits the bill but ALSO has his reaction to pandain/me lacking reads, and his odd reaction to your posts on mocsta/grack meta (which I disagree with, and if you're scummy, indicates that he is likely scum because his reaction was so different than others).

You get voted over those dudes because - (1) I was already looking at you; (2) stuff last night with Artanis's shot; (3) the mayoral votes are wonky and it feels like scum should have TRIED to get a candidate elected at some point or another, and you sort of fit that; (4) people who got shot last night had you as mafia; (5) some is pure expectations, which are higher of you (from me), than cheese or onegu.



As a devils advocate. Why would I as scum not more actively push myself to get into office instead of SS or VE. I could have if I had wanted really pushed for it and likely gotten pardoner over one of those two had I seriously made an effort. Instead I opted to push them in. As well as, why as a player like I am shoot people that view me as scum thus securring my own death when I could instead shoot other people to make them look bad, etc..
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:55 GMT
#5655
On November 23 2013 09:53 supersoft wrote:
I am so sad right now...
I am either terribly wrong and BC played me like a fiddle or I am right and we're lynching this dude who is in my eyes one of the most helpful and friendly players in this town



Baddies be bad brosky. Can't blame them for being terrible. Only upshot is a few people finally stepped up to do shit. Who cares if I die for it
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 23 2013 00:57 GMT
#5656
On November 23 2013 09:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:51 austinmcc wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:44 austinmcc wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:37 austinmcc wrote:
I still want to lynch BC instead of oats. If I am wrong about things then so be it, but he has been waffling all over "I haven't played a good town game in forever" and "Guys here are my reads and last testament you can win the game if you just follow them," artanis got RBed, BC hasn't been a LARGE factor in the game or been shot, SOMEONE(s) that is relatively veteran-y and somewhat active probably gets put in the mafia group (I don't count coag as a vet for this purpose because I haven't seen him play active scum/help his scum team (tee hee); mig is out for me as a strong townread).


BC has had a number of large-ish, well-reasoned, good lookin' posts. But when he's casually discussing things and active in thread, it tends to be focused on a limited range of topics - his own defense, grack, and earlier today, mig. Maybe he's on to stuff, but I feel like his sexy looking posts are markedly different from his casual posts, and that makes me worried that he's packaging the posts he really needs to make in order to look decent, drawing them up ahead of time, and dropping them to convince people, then dipping out of the thread. If the very convincing posts weren't usually made after long absences, I'd be...more inclined to believe them? Or if they were sloppy or something? I'm pretty sure I do actually believe this.


I totally feel why you would feel this way. My only issue with this I a) have been a large factor. Just not in the way you would hope for (being a prime suspect sucks but is still a large part), and b) not being shot theoretically puts you, mig, me all in the same boat as scummyness. I would mention SS as well but well he has pardoner vet vest.

Also austin. I recognize you can feel the difference in my posts. I would too. Given that any post I write that's larger then say, 5-10 lines is something I generally spend 30 minutes to an hour just writing, not counting any work gone into filter diving. Its a ton of work, and requires me to spend far more time writing them. I think you can appreciate this as you would know it to be true from doing your own analytical work. Casual posts are things you write quickly.

You also shouldn't be blaming me for long absences and huge posts when multiple players are also guilty of this. I am fine with you targetting me but if you are nailing me for certain aspects you should also be looking at others in the same light.
I feel that almost all my medium and large-size posts are rushed through, have some poor reasoning in them, and are often difficult to follow. I am TERRIBLE at crafting a really nice-reading post, and if I craft something, it tends to be for maximum stupidity. But...I understand what you're saying, and agree that it SHOULD be that way.

I totally agree on the absences thing, and it IS something that I'm looking at or will be looking at. I've got vayne/cheese/you/thrawn/onegu as people who really disappeared for times today. You had way more ... legitimate posts/reads than the rest in that group, most of the rest threw a couple posts together and whooshed away. To some extent, a couple mafia in that group explains why reads are so confused and most people feel like they're chasing their tails today.


can I just ask you this one thing for clarification. Why would you just say that of a group of people you are pinning as scum for a largely selected behaviour are you opting to lynch the one performing the most town? I get that I'm a dead man now but I really want to know your thought process on it
I think that you have other indicia I'm working off of.

Vayne/Cheese/Onegu all fit the bill for what I'm looking for.

Thrawn fits the bill but ALSO has his reaction to pandain/me lacking reads, and his odd reaction to your posts on mocsta/grack meta (which I disagree with, and if you're scummy, indicates that he is likely scum because his reaction was so different than others).

You get voted over those dudes because - (1) I was already looking at you; (2) stuff last night with Artanis's shot; (3) the mayoral votes are wonky and it feels like scum should have TRIED to get a candidate elected at some point or another, and you sort of fit that; (4) people who got shot last night had you as mafia; (5) some is pure expectations, which are higher of you (from me), than cheese or onegu.



As a devils advocate. Why would I as scum not more actively push myself to get into office instead of SS or VE. I could have if I had wanted really pushed for it and likely gotten pardoner over one of those two had I seriously made an effort. Instead I opted to push them in. As well as, why as a player like I am shoot people that view me as scum thus securring my own death when I could instead shoot other people to make them look bad, etc..
Not entirely sure, the mayoral votes are ODD.

Mocsta stayed on himself the whole time, indicating that either scum didn't have a great candidate, had too many people inactive/AFK, or didn't care too much.

If thrawn is scum, hiro was super inactive and that would also lend credence to mafia not being able to really push a candidate, as 1/6 of their voice/votes weren't around.

So I can't tell if you were a mafia campaign that was aborted because of low activity or something, or if mafia didn't care, or if supersoft was a mafia candidate, or WHAT the heck went on. Essentially, if you're saying you, as scum, woudl have pushed for yourself to get into office, then I can come back and say WHO DID SCUM PUSH? Cuz either ss comes out looking bad if scum pushed someone hard, or else scum didn't really have a push on anyone.
Fe fi fo fum.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 23 2013 00:57 GMT
#5657
Oh man how exciting!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:57 GMT
#5658
On November 23 2013 09:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:53 supersoft wrote:
I am so sad right now...
I am either terribly wrong and BC played me like a fiddle or I am right and we're lynching this dude who is in my eyes one of the most helpful and friendly players in this town



Baddies be bad brosky. Can't blame them for being terrible. Only upshot is a few people finally stepped up to do shit. Who cares if I die for it


BC.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 23 2013 00:57 GMT
#5659
Oh BC please be town. PLEASE BE TOWN DOUBLE TOWN LYNCH LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:58 GMT
#5660
lol i am THIS close to pardon him :D
I just know it doesnt help anything. Would get us both lynched :-D
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