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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#5601
On November 23 2013 09:28 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:26 austinmcc wrote:
I like oats's D1 filter and do not want to vote him. I disagree with ss's case, and I think the only major thing against oats FOR ME is the missing KP.


FUCK the day1 filter!!!! he has done nothing townish!!! NOTHING!!! HE IS SCUM!!!
I disagree with you saying he has done nothing townish. I read a decent amount of townish stuff in his filter.
Fe fi fo fum.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:30 GMT
#5602
On November 23 2013 09:28 austinmcc wrote:
Thanks BC for your reads and the thoughts if you are town. Can I ask you about your numbers? Is you saying to lynch me if "3" people in your list flip town supposed to be a "2"?


I think all 5 scum are in that list. I would also lynch the first 4 first. if 3 of those are somehow town you proceed to lynch into oats/mig/you. Id lynch you last.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 23 2013 00:30 GMT
#5603
On November 23 2013 09:24 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:21 Risen wrote:
Austin, knowing that rayn has been reading the thread and just popped in and left now how does that change your recent post?
I think he's probably not asleep.

I think...there's a decent chance he's mafia. I'm not overly confident in it. I think there are benefits to town for lynching him, but that's a TERRIBLE justification for a lynch at this point, imo.


Mainly, I want to look elsewhere still.

Yeah I can dig it. Really digging that post by BC, too. Last minute shenans onto Oats from BC go?

##unvote: raynpelikoneet
##vote: Oatsmaster


Deal with rayn tomorrow. That martyr post is godawful especially with Pandain above him. I really want one of ss/panda and oats flipping today. Last second train lets do this people.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 23 2013 00:31 GMT
#5604
EBWOP: I'm a total sheep and didn't move my vote. If BC flips town I'm so boned rofl
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:31 GMT
#5605
Which questions thrawn?
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 23 2013 00:32 GMT
#5606
On November 23 2013 09:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Risen what Clarity says about your play after WHWC is 100% correct. You are so fucking delusional i have no idea what to say. You make absolutely zero sense in anything you say and you should be policylynched in all the games because you do nothing but hurt the town as either alignment.

Lol Rayn cmon broooooooo

I'd believe this if we weren't so awesome together
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 23 2013 00:32 GMT
#5607
EBWOP: I'm not gonna lie Rayn that actually hurt me. I really hope you're scum b/c I really did think you liked me
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 23 2013 00:33 GMT
#5608
On November 23 2013 09:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Which questions thrawn?


On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.


you do sorta the same thing to mig in your read list
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 23 2013 00:34 GMT
#5609
The temptation to move shit around last second is something I can't resist if I stay. Then I'll look like my mafia play award self if the people im moving between happen to be town. So I'm leaving things as they stand. Godspeed homies.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:35 GMT
#5610
On November 23 2013 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Which questions thrawn?


Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.


you do sorta the same thing to mig in your read list


My read on mig is that he has played a game that imo doesn't correspond with how he claims to play. Albeit I think my read of him is far less solid then it once was which is why he is now so far town on my scum list. He should be offed only after the first 4 + oats. Simple. I harassed him on his night actions, and i wasn't satisfied with the results, but at the same time the way he has played over this day cycle has been really solid aside from those interactions. I think his night actions are suspect, I dont like how he responded, I also don't like that he isn't being a more vocal and active voice in the game. Overall hes way too passive for what I know he can do and should be doing.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:35 GMT
#5611
On November 22 2013 13:25 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 13:22 Holyflare wrote:
On November 22 2013 13:20 Pandain wrote:
What incriminating information do i have against me


You just lied to us and tried to frame another player for the lie?


Supersoft didn't put my real role in the thread. I don't know why he faked it, but I'm grateful because for all you know I'm a tracker and so I get shot.

He is town



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NOW I SEE IT:

Okay people. He is lying. He claimed what i copied you. lol. Actually that's a nice plan. He claims tracker or whatever gets shot and eats one hit, since he's vet.

Yes sorry. I didnt actually realize that this "vet" thing was a claim haha.

Either way. I see nothing scummy about me or him in this incident.
If i had faked the log to save our tracker. what's scummy about that?
If he now lies about his role. Nothing scummy about it, since i only see that his lie affects the scumteam and not us.

Sadly noone thought about this for a single second and the one who accuse Pandain or me for that are actually mafia.

Plus this really townish move by Pandain makes me much more confident that he's town.
Unvote him ASAP nerds!!!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:36 GMT
#5612
On November 23 2013 09:29 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:28 supersoft wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:26 austinmcc wrote:
I like oats's D1 filter and do not want to vote him. I disagree with ss's case, and I think the only major thing against oats FOR ME is the missing KP.


FUCK the day1 filter!!!! he has done nothing townish!!! NOTHING!!! HE IS SCUM!!!
I disagree with you saying he has done nothing townish. I read a decent amount of townish stuff in his filter.


Post it here and don't just talk about it!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 23 2013 00:37 GMT
#5613
I still want to lynch BC instead of oats. If I am wrong about things then so be it, but he has been waffling all over "I haven't played a good town game in forever" and "Guys here are my reads and last testament you can win the game if you just follow them," artanis got RBed, BC hasn't been a LARGE factor in the game or been shot, SOMEONE(s) that is relatively veteran-y and somewhat active probably gets put in the mafia group (I don't count coag as a vet for this purpose because I haven't seen him play active scum/help his scum team (tee hee); mig is out for me as a strong townread).


BC has had a number of large-ish, well-reasoned, good lookin' posts. But when he's casually discussing things and active in thread, it tends to be focused on a limited range of topics - his own defense, grack, and earlier today, mig. Maybe he's on to stuff, but I feel like his sexy looking posts are markedly different from his casual posts, and that makes me worried that he's packaging the posts he really needs to make in order to look decent, drawing them up ahead of time, and dropping them to convince people, then dipping out of the thread. If the very convincing posts weren't usually made after long absences, I'd be...more inclined to believe them? Or if they were sloppy or something? I'm pretty sure I do actually believe this.
Fe fi fo fum.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 23 2013 00:38 GMT
#5614
On November 23 2013 09:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Which questions thrawn?


On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.


you do sorta the same thing to mig in your read list


My read on mig is that he has played a game that imo doesn't correspond with how he claims to play. Albeit I think my read of him is far less solid then it once was which is why he is now so far town on my scum list. He should be offed only after the first 4 + oats. Simple. I harassed him on his night actions, and i wasn't satisfied with the results, but at the same time the way he has played over this day cycle has been really solid aside from those interactions. I think his night actions are suspect, I dont like how he responded, I also don't like that he isn't being a more vocal and active voice in the game. Overall hes way too passive for what I know he can do and should be doing.


..... but what's your read on him?

"My read on mig is that he has played a game that imo doesn't correspond with how he claims to play."

Idk what alignment that is
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:38 GMT
#5615
On November 23 2013 09:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Which questions thrawn?


On November 23 2013 08:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.


you do sorta the same thing to mig in your read list


My read on mig is that he has played a game that imo doesn't correspond with how he claims to play. Albeit I think my read of him is far less solid then it once was which is why he is now so far town on my scum list. He should be offed only after the first 4 + oats. Simple. I harassed him on his night actions, and i wasn't satisfied with the results, but at the same time the way he has played over this day cycle has been really solid aside from those interactions. I think his night actions are suspect, I dont like how he responded, I also don't like that he isn't being a more vocal and active voice in the game. Overall hes way too passive for what I know he can do and should be doing.


forget mig. He's town. I know it 94,7% sure!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 23 2013 00:39 GMT
#5616
My other vote went on thrawn. I don't want to lynch LM and he doesn't have boatloads on him, I don't want to lynch pandain, and rayn is ... such a tossup.
Fe fi fo fum.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:40 GMT
#5617
Pandain (5): Risen, Hopeless1der, raynpelikoneet, Coagulation, Risen, Pandain, thrawn2112, LoneMeow

This wagon is terrible! Get off him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 23 2013 00:40 GMT
#5618
You guys do realize that BC hasn't looked in a single filter right. He's had me as a scum read for 3 days and hasn't analyzed a single one of my posts. Or tried to question me about a single one of my posts.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 23 2013 00:41 GMT
#5619
On November 23 2013 09:37 austinmcc wrote:
I still want to lynch BC instead of oats. If I am wrong about things then so be it, but he has been waffling all over "I haven't played a good town game in forever" and "Guys here are my reads and last testament you can win the game if you just follow them," artanis got RBed, BC hasn't been a LARGE factor in the game or been shot, SOMEONE(s) that is relatively veteran-y and somewhat active probably gets put in the mafia group (I don't count coag as a vet for this purpose because I haven't seen him play active scum/help his scum team (tee hee); mig is out for me as a strong townread).


BC has had a number of large-ish, well-reasoned, good lookin' posts. But when he's casually discussing things and active in thread, it tends to be focused on a limited range of topics - his own defense, grack, and earlier today, mig. Maybe he's on to stuff, but I feel like his sexy looking posts are markedly different from his casual posts, and that makes me worried that he's packaging the posts he really needs to make in order to look decent, drawing them up ahead of time, and dropping them to convince people, then dipping out of the thread. If the very convincing posts weren't usually made after long absences, I'd be...more inclined to believe them? Or if they were sloppy or something? I'm pretty sure I do actually believe this.
The first sentence of this is important to me. I KNOW that's something to be conflicted on, and if he's town then okay, he was conflicted on it.

But BC has argued both:

(1) I am not threatening to scum, that's why they kept me alive, my town game has been butt recently

and

(2) You guys are all horribly wrong, I am right. Here are the reads you should 100% follow, and I am town.

Granted, he KNOWS his alignment, and may KNOW what's wrong with his lynch. But it's somewhat difficult to trust that, and he is VERY VERY VERY certain about pushing his own full scumlist while saying he hasn't had a good town game in a while. Maybe this is it and he breaks back into a form he's happy with, or somewhat happy with, but I see these as divergent trains of thought.
Fe fi fo fum.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:42 GMT
#5620
On November 23 2013 09:37 austinmcc wrote:
I still want to lynch BC instead of oats. If I am wrong about things then so be it, but he has been waffling all over "I haven't played a good town game in forever" and "Guys here are my reads and last testament you can win the game if you just follow them," artanis got RBed, BC hasn't been a LARGE factor in the game or been shot, SOMEONE(s) that is relatively veteran-y and somewhat active probably gets put in the mafia group (I don't count coag as a vet for this purpose because I haven't seen him play active scum/help his scum team (tee hee); mig is out for me as a strong townread).


BC has had a number of large-ish, well-reasoned, good lookin' posts. But when he's casually discussing things and active in thread, it tends to be focused on a limited range of topics - his own defense, grack, and earlier today, mig. Maybe he's on to stuff, but I feel like his sexy looking posts are markedly different from his casual posts, and that makes me worried that he's packaging the posts he really needs to make in order to look decent, drawing them up ahead of time, and dropping them to convince people, then dipping out of the thread. If the very convincing posts weren't usually made after long absences, I'd be...more inclined to believe them? Or if they were sloppy or something? I'm pretty sure I do actually believe this.


I totally feel why you would feel this way. My only issue with this I a) have been a large factor. Just not in the way you would hope for (being a prime suspect sucks but is still a large part), and b) not being shot theoretically puts you, mig, me all in the same boat as scummyness. I would mention SS as well but well he has pardoner vet vest.

Also austin. I recognize you can feel the difference in my posts. I would too. Given that any post I write that's larger then say, 5-10 lines is something I generally spend 30 minutes to an hour just writing, not counting any work gone into filter diving. Its a ton of work, and requires me to spend far more time writing them. I think you can appreciate this as you would know it to be true from doing your own analytical work. Casual posts are things you write quickly.

You also shouldn't be blaming me for long absences and huge posts when multiple players are also guilty of this. I am fine with you targetting me but if you are nailing me for certain aspects you should also be looking at others in the same light.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
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