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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 23 2013 00:42 GMT
#5621
Vote Count:


Pandain (5): Risen, Hopeless1der, raynpelikoneet, Coagulation, Risen, Pandain, thrawn2112, LoneMeow

Grackaroni (2): Risen, BloodyC0bbler, Koshi, Coagulation

BloodyC0bbler (9): VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, Mr. Cheesecake, austinmcc, Mig, Grackaroni, Koshi, Hopeless1der, Koshi, Mr. Cheesecake, Pandain, Holyflare, LoneMeow, thrawn2112

LoneMeow (2): VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, Mr. Cheesecake

supersoft (1): Risen, Koshi, Koshi, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Hopeless1der, Risen

Mig (2): BloodyC0bbler, Oatsmaster

Coagulation (0): Grackaroni, Oatsmaster

VayneAuthority (0): Koshi, Mr. Cheesecake, Koshi, Alakaslam

raynpelikoneet (5): Alakaslam, Koshi, Mr Cheesecake, Pandain, Koshi, Pandain, Alakaslam, Risen

Oatsmaster (2): Alakaslam, supersoft, Risen

Risen (4): Oatsmaster, Mig, supersoft, Alakaslam, Pandain, Holyflare, Onegu, supersoft, Grackaroni

Alakaslam (1): VayneAuthority, Risen, raynpelikoneet

Onegu (1): Oatsmaster

Koshi (0): Onegu

Holyflare (1): Onegu, Risen

austinmcc (1): Onegu

thrawn2112 (1): austinmcc

Not voting (1 vote):: Alakaslam (1),


Deadline is in . Voting is mandatory.

Currently
BloodyC0bbler and Pandain are set to be lynched! If you see a vote out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:42 GMT
#5622
well okay shit BC is dead... oky... i guess we lynch Risen then.
If BC flips scum against all odds. i think Oats might look a lot better -_-
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#5623
I would rather pandain not get lynched. The vote list is pretty bad and he has done somethings that put him at risk to benefit town.

BC you have pandain 100% town why don't you move a vote to Risen who is null. If you are actually town.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#5624
Risen lynch much better than Pandain/Rayn imo. gogo
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#5625
meh I lose my other bomb then. I'm a VT for all intents and purposes now
I come in for the scraps
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:44 GMT
#5626
On November 23 2013 09:40 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys do realize that BC hasn't looked in a single filter right. He's had me as a scum read for 3 days and hasn't analyzed a single one of my posts. Or tried to question me about a single one of my posts.


I asked you ages ago for 5 valid contributions youve done and you couldn't do it. Since then I have scanned your filter and guess what? I don't need to answer your, or analyze you post by post. You have 0 fucking content. You have been riding the "i pushed mocsta and almost got him lynched card"

Thats all you got. Given that most people didn't want me constantly filling the thread with "grack is scum and heres a page of analysis why" I stopped.

Sucks for you that I pegged you. Sucks for me no one believes me.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 23 2013 00:44 GMT
#5627
Vayne/austin Vote Risen? Austin you said we should consolidate votes. Voting thrawn is not consolidating.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 23 2013 00:44 GMT
#5628
ill switch my slam vote to risen because I only had him as town for doing nothing, if you guys don't want to lynch LM I guess whatever but im not changing that one
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 23 2013 00:44 GMT
#5629
On November 23 2013 09:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:37 austinmcc wrote:
I still want to lynch BC instead of oats. If I am wrong about things then so be it, but he has been waffling all over "I haven't played a good town game in forever" and "Guys here are my reads and last testament you can win the game if you just follow them," artanis got RBed, BC hasn't been a LARGE factor in the game or been shot, SOMEONE(s) that is relatively veteran-y and somewhat active probably gets put in the mafia group (I don't count coag as a vet for this purpose because I haven't seen him play active scum/help his scum team (tee hee); mig is out for me as a strong townread).


BC has had a number of large-ish, well-reasoned, good lookin' posts. But when he's casually discussing things and active in thread, it tends to be focused on a limited range of topics - his own defense, grack, and earlier today, mig. Maybe he's on to stuff, but I feel like his sexy looking posts are markedly different from his casual posts, and that makes me worried that he's packaging the posts he really needs to make in order to look decent, drawing them up ahead of time, and dropping them to convince people, then dipping out of the thread. If the very convincing posts weren't usually made after long absences, I'd be...more inclined to believe them? Or if they were sloppy or something? I'm pretty sure I do actually believe this.


I totally feel why you would feel this way. My only issue with this I a) have been a large factor. Just not in the way you would hope for (being a prime suspect sucks but is still a large part), and b) not being shot theoretically puts you, mig, me all in the same boat as scummyness. I would mention SS as well but well he has pardoner vet vest.

Also austin. I recognize you can feel the difference in my posts. I would too. Given that any post I write that's larger then say, 5-10 lines is something I generally spend 30 minutes to an hour just writing, not counting any work gone into filter diving. Its a ton of work, and requires me to spend far more time writing them. I think you can appreciate this as you would know it to be true from doing your own analytical work. Casual posts are things you write quickly.

You also shouldn't be blaming me for long absences and huge posts when multiple players are also guilty of this. I am fine with you targetting me but if you are nailing me for certain aspects you should also be looking at others in the same light.
I feel that almost all my medium and large-size posts are rushed through, have some poor reasoning in them, and are often difficult to follow. I am TERRIBLE at crafting a really nice-reading post, and if I craft something, it tends to be for maximum stupidity. But...I understand what you're saying, and agree that it SHOULD be that way.

I totally agree on the absences thing, and it IS something that I'm looking at or will be looking at. I've got vayne/cheese/you/thrawn/onegu as people who really disappeared for times today. You had way more ... legitimate posts/reads than the rest in that group, most of the rest threw a couple posts together and whooshed away. To some extent, a couple mafia in that group explains why reads are so confused and most people feel like they're chasing their tails today.
Fe fi fo fum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
November 23 2013 00:45 GMT
#5630
On November 23 2013 09:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:40 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys do realize that BC hasn't looked in a single filter right. He's had me as a scum read for 3 days and hasn't analyzed a single one of my posts. Or tried to question me about a single one of my posts.


I asked you ages ago for 5 valid contributions youve done and you couldn't do it. Since then I have scanned your filter and guess what? I don't need to answer your, or analyze you post by post. You have 0 fucking content. You have been riding the "i pushed mocsta and almost got him lynched card"

Thats all you got. Given that most people didn't want me constantly filling the thread with "grack is scum and heres a page of analysis why" I stopped.

Sucks for you that I pegged you. Sucks for me no one believes me.

No I did it lol. Then I asked you and you quit talking to me.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:45 GMT
#5631
On November 23 2013 09:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:40 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys do realize that BC hasn't looked in a single filter right. He's had me as a scum read for 3 days and hasn't analyzed a single one of my posts. Or tried to question me about a single one of my posts.


I asked you ages ago for 5 valid contributions youve done and you couldn't do it. Since then I have scanned your filter and guess what? I don't need to answer your, or analyze you post by post. You have 0 fucking content. You have been riding the "i pushed mocsta and almost got him lynched card"

Thats all you got. Given that most people didn't want me constantly filling the thread with "grack is scum and heres a page of analysis why" I stopped.

Sucks for you that I pegged you. Sucks for me no one believes me.


i am afraid playing antitown is the new townmeta around. :-(
vote risen. I wanna kill at least one scummer today...
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 23 2013 00:45 GMT
#5632
On November 23 2013 09:44 Mig wrote:
Vayne/austin Vote Risen? Austin you said we should consolidate votes. Voting thrawn is not consolidating.
I don't want to lynch risen. I would rather consolidate onto rayn.
Fe fi fo fum.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 23 2013 00:46 GMT
#5633
On November 23 2013 09:45 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:44 Mig wrote:
Vayne/austin Vote Risen? Austin you said we should consolidate votes. Voting thrawn is not consolidating.
I don't want to lynch risen. I would rather consolidate onto rayn.


only to purify the thread? no.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 23 2013 00:46 GMT
#5634
On November 23 2013 09:45 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:44 Mig wrote:
Vayne/austin Vote Risen? Austin you said we should consolidate votes. Voting thrawn is not consolidating.
I don't want to lynch risen. I would rather consolidate onto rayn.

Of course you would because you are fucking scum.
table for two on a tv tray
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:47 GMT
#5635
On November 23 2013 09:44 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:37 austinmcc wrote:
I still want to lynch BC instead of oats. If I am wrong about things then so be it, but he has been waffling all over "I haven't played a good town game in forever" and "Guys here are my reads and last testament you can win the game if you just follow them," artanis got RBed, BC hasn't been a LARGE factor in the game or been shot, SOMEONE(s) that is relatively veteran-y and somewhat active probably gets put in the mafia group (I don't count coag as a vet for this purpose because I haven't seen him play active scum/help his scum team (tee hee); mig is out for me as a strong townread).


BC has had a number of large-ish, well-reasoned, good lookin' posts. But when he's casually discussing things and active in thread, it tends to be focused on a limited range of topics - his own defense, grack, and earlier today, mig. Maybe he's on to stuff, but I feel like his sexy looking posts are markedly different from his casual posts, and that makes me worried that he's packaging the posts he really needs to make in order to look decent, drawing them up ahead of time, and dropping them to convince people, then dipping out of the thread. If the very convincing posts weren't usually made after long absences, I'd be...more inclined to believe them? Or if they were sloppy or something? I'm pretty sure I do actually believe this.


I totally feel why you would feel this way. My only issue with this I a) have been a large factor. Just not in the way you would hope for (being a prime suspect sucks but is still a large part), and b) not being shot theoretically puts you, mig, me all in the same boat as scummyness. I would mention SS as well but well he has pardoner vet vest.

Also austin. I recognize you can feel the difference in my posts. I would too. Given that any post I write that's larger then say, 5-10 lines is something I generally spend 30 minutes to an hour just writing, not counting any work gone into filter diving. Its a ton of work, and requires me to spend far more time writing them. I think you can appreciate this as you would know it to be true from doing your own analytical work. Casual posts are things you write quickly.

You also shouldn't be blaming me for long absences and huge posts when multiple players are also guilty of this. I am fine with you targetting me but if you are nailing me for certain aspects you should also be looking at others in the same light.
I feel that almost all my medium and large-size posts are rushed through, have some poor reasoning in them, and are often difficult to follow. I am TERRIBLE at crafting a really nice-reading post, and if I craft something, it tends to be for maximum stupidity. But...I understand what you're saying, and agree that it SHOULD be that way.

I totally agree on the absences thing, and it IS something that I'm looking at or will be looking at. I've got vayne/cheese/you/thrawn/onegu as people who really disappeared for times today. You had way more ... legitimate posts/reads than the rest in that group, most of the rest threw a couple posts together and whooshed away. To some extent, a couple mafia in that group explains why reads are so confused and most people feel like they're chasing their tails today.


can I just ask you this one thing for clarification. Why would you just say that of a group of people you are pinning as scum for a largely selected behaviour are you opting to lynch the one performing the most town? I get that I'm a dead man now but I really want to know your thought process on it
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 23 2013 00:47 GMT
#5636
My vote is feeling lonely. Somehow supersoft is exempt from the world of logical conclusions. Back to BC then.
##Unvote: supersoft
##Vote: BC
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 23 2013 00:48 GMT
#5637
BC why arent you switching. You have pandain as 100% town?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 23 2013 00:48 GMT
#5638
On November 23 2013 09:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:40 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys do realize that BC hasn't looked in a single filter right. He's had me as a scum read for 3 days and hasn't analyzed a single one of my posts. Or tried to question me about a single one of my posts.


I asked you ages ago for 5 valid contributions youve done and you couldn't do it. Since then I have scanned your filter and guess what? I don't need to answer your, or analyze you post by post. You have 0 fucking content. You have been riding the "i pushed mocsta and almost got him lynched card"

Thats all you got. Given that most people didn't want me constantly filling the thread with "grack is scum and heres a page of analysis why" I stopped.

Sucks for you that I pegged you. Sucks for me no one believes me.

No I did it lol. Then I asked you and you quit talking to me.


Because anyone can dig through my filter and find at least 5-10 reasons why I am town and then 5-10 reasons why i am not.

It depends on perspective and nothing else. You literally have nothing
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 23 2013 00:48 GMT
#5639
I still think the safest double lynches would be pandain/austin or BC/mig because there is mutually exclusive scum in both of these. I am pretty sure about that
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 23 2013 00:48 GMT
#5640
On November 23 2013 09:46 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 09:45 austinmcc wrote:
On November 23 2013 09:44 Mig wrote:
Vayne/austin Vote Risen? Austin you said we should consolidate votes. Voting thrawn is not consolidating.
I don't want to lynch risen. I would rather consolidate onto rayn.


only to purify the thread? no.
Partway to purify. Partway because his stuff between last night and early today looks suspect. He jumped from me being 100% scum to believing my vet claim and having me town, to putting me back as scum. He hopped on each and every possible lie or misconception and called people scum for it. He has been incredibly active earlier today, but it never felt like he had CLEAR suspects and was PUSHING THEM. It felt like he was flailing around in the thread, jumping around, and for all his activity he wasn't DOING anything with it.

If you can look at all of rayn's posts today and give me a clear suspect or two that he legitimately tried to get lynched by pushing them and convincing people and not moving off of, I am all ears.
Fe fi fo fum.
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