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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 03:06 GMT
#4121
HERE, FOR THE FOURTH TIME:
On November 20 2013 11:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
I'm suggesting that you are letting supersoft as a poster affect you instead of actually looking at the game as a whole


he only mentioned mocsta last second on an on the cuff remark, who is to say if he became mayor that somebody couldn't have "changed his mind"?

it is wifom at best and shouldn't really matter either way

This is what i tried to say earlier. supersoft says after the deadline "i am rereading Mocsta's filter".
There is no guarantee he would lynch Mocsta at all. Especially considering he does never bring Mocsta up on N1. Not a single time after the lynch.

do i need to bring the quotes or are you too lazy to check by yourself?
table for two on a tv tray
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 20 2013 03:07 GMT
#4122
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
November 20 2013 03:10 GMT
#4123
How SS became pardoner is unquestionably a bit shady. He got last second pushed into it while running against a third party and a town. But even if we don't know that SS would have killed mocsta the fact that he said he was his #1 choice with 15 min left is worth something. People should keep it in mind for the future but for now he isn't a priority and if he finds some scum then everything is peachy.

Moderator
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 20 2013 03:11 GMT
#4124
On November 20 2013 12:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 12:02 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:56 austinmcc wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:48 austinmcc wrote:
rayn, ss is very likely town.

Also, if you think he's mafia and i'm mafia, I chose to make him pardoner and not mayor

Yeah and pardoner is pro-scum role and better than mayor if the mayor lynches town on D1. Also as people have said supersoft said he will lynch Mocsta. So i don't see the problem here.
I will draw a picture for you in a bit.

The problem is that methinks you are wrong about ss's alignment. And meknows you're wrong about me. And the scenarios you are creating don't really make the BEST sense. So I think you need to reexamine.

Don't twist the argument. You said it does not make sense for you two to be scum i said it makes perfect sense if you are scum. Now how does it not make sense if you are both scum again?

there's still the fact that SS had absolutely no way of knowing that VE would show up for the lynch.

I have fucking explained that three times already. There is no guarantee ss will in fact lynch Mocsta.
How the fuck is it so hard to read the thread? This is why i need to post all the stuff many times, people do not read.

lol I was the one arguing with you about this earlier. And that's still dumb; you don't play Russian Roulette with a 2 shot vigi for no reason. He had no prior suspicion of Mocsta. No scum player would put themselves in a situation like that where they would be really likely have to back track and claim scum to the thread. VE wasn't even voting for himself to get elected.

You get in these tunnel visions and it hurts your reads. Take a break and think about it later. He's really unlikely to be scum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 20 2013 03:15 GMT
#4125
look. If SS uses pardon we lynch him.
EZ.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 03:15 GMT
#4126
Well when i wake up tomorrow i am going to make a post on how supersoft's read on Mocsta and Oats evolves from "i have 7 scumreads and none of them are Mocsta/Oats, then i wanna kill Mocsta but never bring him up after the lynch, then i suddenly make a big case on Oats while having never talked about him before".

good night.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2013 03:18 GMT
#4127
On November 20 2013 12:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 12:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:02 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:56 austinmcc wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:48 austinmcc wrote:
rayn, ss is very likely town.

Also, if you think he's mafia and i'm mafia, I chose to make him pardoner and not mayor

Yeah and pardoner is pro-scum role and better than mayor if the mayor lynches town on D1. Also as people have said supersoft said he will lynch Mocsta. So i don't see the problem here.
I will draw a picture for you in a bit.

The problem is that methinks you are wrong about ss's alignment. And meknows you're wrong about me. And the scenarios you are creating don't really make the BEST sense. So I think you need to reexamine.

Don't twist the argument. You said it does not make sense for you two to be scum i said it makes perfect sense if you are scum. Now how does it not make sense if you are both scum again?

there's still the fact that SS had absolutely no way of knowing that VE would show up for the lynch.

I have fucking explained that three times already. There is no guarantee ss will in fact lynch Mocsta.
How the fuck is it so hard to read the thread? This is why i need to post all the stuff many times, people do not read.

lol I was the one arguing with you about this earlier. And that's still dumb; you don't play Russian Roulette with a 2 shot vigi for no reason. He had no prior suspicion of Mocsta. No scum player would put themselves in a situation like that where they would be really likely have to back track and claim scum to the thread. VE wasn't even voting for himself to get elected.

You get in these tunnel visions and it hurts your reads. Take a break and think about it later. He's really unlikely to be scum.
VA already brought up that when SS mentioned he was reading into mocsta austin switched his vote to VE. What do you make of that?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 20 2013 03:18 GMT
#4128
On November 20 2013 10:09 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 10:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im sorry what SS? Lynching people that arent town is bad?


You hang tomorrow! Oh I get you hanged, even if i have to enlarge my filter to 100 pages!

And like Bloodycobbler said, I will ride your contrails on it.

Yeah, I'm fired up for more huge filters. I could care less if Raynepelikoneet is mad hatter, except that he's perfect there as a two shot vig.
I want to cause him to use that power.

SuperSoft please don't bloat your filter. Rayn Svengali doesn't need to be repeated
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2013 03:19 GMT
#4129
In regards to austin, not Ss
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 20 2013 03:30 GMT
#4130
On November 20 2013 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 12:11 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:02 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:56 austinmcc wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:48 austinmcc wrote:
rayn, ss is very likely town.

Also, if you think he's mafia and i'm mafia, I chose to make him pardoner and not mayor

Yeah and pardoner is pro-scum role and better than mayor if the mayor lynches town on D1. Also as people have said supersoft said he will lynch Mocsta. So i don't see the problem here.
I will draw a picture for you in a bit.

The problem is that methinks you are wrong about ss's alignment. And meknows you're wrong about me. And the scenarios you are creating don't really make the BEST sense. So I think you need to reexamine.

Don't twist the argument. You said it does not make sense for you two to be scum i said it makes perfect sense if you are scum. Now how does it not make sense if you are both scum again?

there's still the fact that SS had absolutely no way of knowing that VE would show up for the lynch.

I have fucking explained that three times already. There is no guarantee ss will in fact lynch Mocsta.
How the fuck is it so hard to read the thread? This is why i need to post all the stuff many times, people do not read.

lol I was the one arguing with you about this earlier. And that's still dumb; you don't play Russian Roulette with a 2 shot vigi for no reason. He had no prior suspicion of Mocsta. No scum player would put themselves in a situation like that where they would be really likely have to back track and claim scum to the thread. VE wasn't even voting for himself to get elected.

You get in these tunnel visions and it hurts your reads. Take a break and think about it later. He's really unlikely to be scum.
VA already brought up that when SS mentioned he was reading into mocsta austin switched his vote to VE. What do you make of that?

I think that's silly. I really doubt it went down like you are implying.

SS: "Oh shit Grack said Mocsta. Nothing I can do now but bus Mocsta and hope VE wins mayor and shows up for the mayor lynch that he was trying to give to me"
Austinmcc "Daaaaaamn better switch to VE hehe!"
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 20 2013 03:31 GMT
#4131
On November 20 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 11:56 austinmcc wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:48 austinmcc wrote:
rayn, ss is very likely town.

Also, if you think he's mafia and i'm mafia, I chose to make him pardoner and not mayor

Yeah and pardoner is pro-scum role and better than mayor if the mayor lynches town on D1. Also as people have said supersoft said he will lynch Mocsta. So i don't see the problem here.
I will draw a picture for you in a bit.

The problem is that methinks you are wrong about ss's alignment. And meknows you're wrong about me. And the scenarios you are creating don't really make the BEST sense. So I think you need to reexamine.

Don't twist the argument. You said it does not make sense for you two to be scum i said it makes perfect sense if you are scum. Now how does it not make sense if you are both scum again?
It doesn't make perfect sense. You can FORCE it to make sense if you super want to. But it doesn't sit there and make sense.

Pardoner is a nice scum role, but it's only REALLY good at the end of the game. Mayor gives you a free lynch, NO CHANCE of some asshat townie ruining your game by lynching mafia. I don't think you can actually say, "NO! THIS ROLE IS BETTER. THE END! RAWR!"

You're also really focused on him saying he'd lynch mocsta. He MIGHT have lynched someone else. But you don't know that, and you have absolutely no reason to believe, based just on his posts then, that he wouldn't lynch mocsta. You THINK he's scum for other reasons, so you work his comment on mocsta to make sense from a scum POV. But, on its own, you have no reason to believe there's a lie there.
Fe fi fo fum.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 20 2013 03:32 GMT
#4132
On November 20 2013 12:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
HERE, FOR THE FOURTH TIME:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 11:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
I'm suggesting that you are letting supersoft as a poster affect you instead of actually looking at the game as a whole


he only mentioned mocsta last second on an on the cuff remark, who is to say if he became mayor that somebody couldn't have "changed his mind"?

it is wifom at best and shouldn't really matter either way

This is what i tried to say earlier. supersoft says after the deadline "i am rereading Mocsta's filter".
There is no guarantee he would lynch Mocsta at all. Especially considering he does never bring Mocsta up on N1. Not a single time after the lynch.

do i need to bring the quotes or are you too lazy to check by yourself?

This on page 207

207


2 0 7

TWO HUNDRED SEVEN

I work

Today, I waited for a delivery of about 12 gallons of stuff

Did not come until 2

I took off for Phoenix

Got a call at 4:30, where are you? It's a half hour after closing. We can't keep open like this, I'm sorry but you need to come tomorrow... See you then.

AZ does not do daylight savings time. Wow I feel dumb.

Come back to thread: "you lazy idiots play unacceptably"

Nice plan scum- Rayn shit up thread, shit on lazy town, Bloodycobbler shit on lazy town and Rayn to dissacociate, discourage town that is already demoralized by huge game full of "lazy! Lazy! Lazy! So lazy! We need to lynch laziness!" And every contradictory voice ignored, except by each other and they all shit on each other. I am guilty of this.

So pissed I could out but that is cruel. I'm in this for the long haul!

But don't expect miracles. After all I expect to be ignored, or shat on when taking anti-ignore measures. Is rather be ignored until someone filter dives me looking for scum.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 20 2013 03:33 GMT
#4133
I don't even see why pardoner is a good scum role. If somebody I want to lynch gets pardoned I'm just going to lynch SS.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 20 2013 03:36 GMT
#4134
On November 20 2013 12:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't even see why pardoner is a good scum role. If somebody I want to lynch gets pardoned I'm just going to lynch SS.


another round of night kills, and you can't know for sure if they are pardoning town or scum. So it's an annoying role if it's held by scum.
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 20 2013 03:41 GMT
#4135
On November 20 2013 12:33 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't even see why pardoner is a good scum role. If somebody I want to lynch gets pardoned I'm just going to lynch SS.
It's best at/near endgame to spring as a trap and cut a day off town's count, maybe preserve a crucial NK at the very end.

It's not very good early/mid, or at least NOT on a more veterany player, because you give yourself up to save someone else and that's maybe not a good trade
Fe fi fo fum.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
November 20 2013 03:45 GMT
#4136
On November 20 2013 11:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 11:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah rayn, I was slightly confused by Risen.

Why is SS scum though rayn?

Because he is acting like a baby and every time he posts he whines about me posting so much bohoo too hard to read bullcrap and then says nothing.. Also as i said i refuse to believe scum did not want to run for mayor.

Lynch me out then Rayn. I feel the same way.


I'm am so lucky I am able to glance at the phone and try to keep up or I would be COMPLETELY useless.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 20 2013 03:46 GMT
#4137
lol are you guys fucking dumb?
If supersoft is scum he is now one time lynchproof and we can't even vig him because he has a vest so yeah, pardoner not a good scum role totes...
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 20 2013 03:49 GMT
#4138
On November 20 2013 12:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:11 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:02 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:56 austinmcc wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:48 austinmcc wrote:
rayn, ss is very likely town.

Also, if you think he's mafia and i'm mafia, I chose to make him pardoner and not mayor

Yeah and pardoner is pro-scum role and better than mayor if the mayor lynches town on D1. Also as people have said supersoft said he will lynch Mocsta. So i don't see the problem here.
I will draw a picture for you in a bit.

The problem is that methinks you are wrong about ss's alignment. And meknows you're wrong about me. And the scenarios you are creating don't really make the BEST sense. So I think you need to reexamine.

Don't twist the argument. You said it does not make sense for you two to be scum i said it makes perfect sense if you are scum. Now how does it not make sense if you are both scum again?

there's still the fact that SS had absolutely no way of knowing that VE would show up for the lynch.

I have fucking explained that three times already. There is no guarantee ss will in fact lynch Mocsta.
How the fuck is it so hard to read the thread? This is why i need to post all the stuff many times, people do not read.

lol I was the one arguing with you about this earlier. And that's still dumb; you don't play Russian Roulette with a 2 shot vigi for no reason. He had no prior suspicion of Mocsta. No scum player would put themselves in a situation like that where they would be really likely have to back track and claim scum to the thread. VE wasn't even voting for himself to get elected.

You get in these tunnel visions and it hurts your reads. Take a break and think about it later. He's really unlikely to be scum.
VA already brought up that when SS mentioned he was reading into mocsta austin switched his vote to VE. What do you make of that?

I think that's silly. I really doubt it went down like you are implying.

SS: "Oh shit Grack said Mocsta. Nothing I can do now but bus Mocsta and hope VE wins mayor and shows up for the mayor lynch that he was trying to give to me"
Austinmcc "Daaaaaamn better switch to VE hehe!"


I am not implying ss is scum. I am implying austin could be.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 20 2013 03:49 GMT
#4139
On November 20 2013 12:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol are you guys fucking dumb?
If supersoft is scum he is now one time lynchproof and we can't even vig him because he has a vest so yeah, pardoner not a good scum role totes...
This bit is important though
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 20 2013 03:50 GMT
#4140
On November 20 2013 12:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 12:30 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:11 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 12:02 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:56 austinmcc wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 11:48 austinmcc wrote:
rayn, ss is very likely town.

Also, if you think he's mafia and i'm mafia, I chose to make him pardoner and not mayor

Yeah and pardoner is pro-scum role and better than mayor if the mayor lynches town on D1. Also as people have said supersoft said he will lynch Mocsta. So i don't see the problem here.
I will draw a picture for you in a bit.

The problem is that methinks you are wrong about ss's alignment. And meknows you're wrong about me. And the scenarios you are creating don't really make the BEST sense. So I think you need to reexamine.

Don't twist the argument. You said it does not make sense for you two to be scum i said it makes perfect sense if you are scum. Now how does it not make sense if you are both scum again?

there's still the fact that SS had absolutely no way of knowing that VE would show up for the lynch.

I have fucking explained that three times already. There is no guarantee ss will in fact lynch Mocsta.
How the fuck is it so hard to read the thread? This is why i need to post all the stuff many times, people do not read.

lol I was the one arguing with you about this earlier. And that's still dumb; you don't play Russian Roulette with a 2 shot vigi for no reason. He had no prior suspicion of Mocsta. No scum player would put themselves in a situation like that where they would be really likely have to back track and claim scum to the thread. VE wasn't even voting for himself to get elected.

You get in these tunnel visions and it hurts your reads. Take a break and think about it later. He's really unlikely to be scum.
VA already brought up that when SS mentioned he was reading into mocsta austin switched his vote to VE. What do you make of that?

I think that's silly. I really doubt it went down like you are implying.

SS: "Oh shit Grack said Mocsta. Nothing I can do now but bus Mocsta and hope VE wins mayor and shows up for the mayor lynch that he was trying to give to me"
Austinmcc "Daaaaaamn better switch to VE hehe!"


I am not implying ss is scum. I am implying austin could be.
scumaustin I don't think has ever been this dumb. You're suggesting that i read ss LOOKING AT mocsta, and within the same minute, post that I'm moving my vote, despite already saying the order I wanted and why I had voted ss in the first place (and noting that someone had moved onto ss so I didn't need to be there anymore).

Ya, same minute.

But not nefarious. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Fe fi fo fum.
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