EPTOn November 18 2013 08:31 Grackaroni wrote:
Tomorrow we lynch Koshi
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I don't like this first attack at all. Koshi implies that SS is scum for shitting up the thread and insulting other players but this is just standard SS play. I don't think even Koshi understands why he is calling SS scum. He decides that SS is not really trying to get elected, and that he is scum because of that, but there is probably more motivation for scum players to want to appear pro-town early and become mayor.
This contradiction is a big deal to me. The first line should imply that he is in favor of BC's post, yet he ends up disagreeing with all of his points. It's inconsistent and I think he is just making up his reads out of thin air.
I mentioned this earlier, I don't like the phrasing in this post. He seems afraid to outright accuse Supersoft, but he still wants to cast suspicion on to him.
Once again I think Koshi is playing scared. Earlier he said that he might be ok with lynching Rayn, and then as soon as Rayn accused him, he started giving him townie points for absolutely no reason. He also rushes in to Rayn's filter and searches his own name and tries to use that as a point against Rayn.
After that exchange insists several times that Rayn has to be scum for having a weak case, which isn't terrible reasoning. I don't like how much he uses the fact the people aren't listening to him to point towards him being scum. That is terrible reasoning.
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When he writes a case on Rayn his reasoning falls short.
-Who cares if people ignore his case. That doesn't make him scum. I also don't see him not caring that people disagree with his case.
-He says I am afraid. lol you are afraid.
-He thinks Sharrant is scum. But he could do this as town.
-He has the same SS read as me.
-He says he is good at reading Pandain and that Pandain is scum. he should wait longer. (?)
-Town Rayn ignores useless players - (I don't know if this is true and I don't actually remember Rayn spending too much time pushing me.)
Town Koshi is try hard. Koshi's filter this game is completely devoid of reasoning; he makes up scum reads as he goes along through the thread. He's given no reasoning why VA is scum. He's given no reasoning why Storrzerg is scum. He's given no reasoning why Yamato is scum. He's mentioned all of these people being scum several times throughout his filter before.
Koshi isn't town.
Tomorrow we lynch Koshi
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On November 15 2013 23:43 Koshi wrote:
supersoft
Do you really want to be Mayor? Your first post:
Your second post is you trying to stir up Yamato/VE who were at that point the most active posters in the thread that also wanted to be Mayor. The same second that you posted this you should have known that they would be mad. Why did you post this?
Oats said that you search for confrontation and are able to read people after that? But to me this looks like plain old shitting up the thread for no reason at all.
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You enter the thread claiming that you need to be elected. But instead of gathering support you are shitting up the thread and annoying the living shit out of VE and Yamato. Why? If you want to be elected, wouldn't it be better to play nice with these 2?
Btw, what is your read on VE and Yamato atm?
supersoft
Do you really want to be Mayor? Your first post:
Your second post is you trying to stir up Yamato/VE who were at that point the most active posters in the thread that also wanted to be Mayor. The same second that you posted this you should have known that they would be mad. Why did you post this?
Oats said that you search for confrontation and are able to read people after that? But to me this looks like plain old shitting up the thread for no reason at all.
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You enter the thread claiming that you need to be elected. But instead of gathering support you are shitting up the thread and annoying the living shit out of VE and Yamato. Why? If you want to be elected, wouldn't it be better to play nice with these 2?
Btw, what is your read on VE and Yamato atm?
I don't like this first attack at all. Koshi implies that SS is scum for shitting up the thread and insulting other players but this is just standard SS play. I don't think even Koshi understands why he is calling SS scum. He decides that SS is not really trying to get elected, and that he is scum because of that, but there is probably more motivation for scum players to want to appear pro-town early and become mayor.
This contradiction is a big deal to me. The first line should imply that he is in favor of BC's post, yet he ends up disagreeing with all of his points. It's inconsistent and I think he is just making up his reads out of thin air.
I mentioned this earlier, I don't like the phrasing in this post. He seems afraid to outright accuse Supersoft, but he still wants to cast suspicion on to him.
Once again I think Koshi is playing scared. Earlier he said that he might be ok with lynching Rayn, and then as soon as Rayn accused him, he started giving him townie points for absolutely no reason. He also rushes in to Rayn's filter and searches his own name and tries to use that as a point against Rayn.
After that exchange insists several times that Rayn has to be scum for having a weak case, which isn't terrible reasoning. I don't like how much he uses the fact the people aren't listening to him to point towards him being scum. That is terrible reasoning.
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On November 17 2013 00:39 Koshi wrote:
Rayn
Let's start with the 6 names rayn just gave us as his scumreads.
Holyflare : rayn made a case on Holyflare nobody understands or nobody supported. But for some reason rayn believed that people supported his case when he was discussing with me earlier. This so so strange because rayn hates it when people don't listen and follow his cases. rayn is scum and doesn't give 2 shits about his case.
Koshi : Started with townread on me, gave me scumread after I made a case on ss and dropped it. However, rayn doesn't know that he is giving me a scumread for that himself it seems as I asked him about why I am scum earlier and he couldn't reply. It is very strange for rayn to not let the thread know why somebody is scum. Especially when he would think and be able to prove I am scum because he can point out why I am scum pretty easily.
(PS: I am not playing afraid, hesitant or restricted this game. Does somebody believe that? Maybe you should ask proof from rayn) (PSII: rayn saying I am scum while I am town makes me bitter)
Sharrant: rayn has had a scumread on Sharrant since Sharrant made the conclusion rayn is scum while it should have been town. Pretty sure that is the same reason why rayn thinks Holyflare is scum. It's just weak, and silly. But could come from town rayn this one. But it's just silly that nobody knows why Sharrant is a scumread from rayn unless you read that 1 post about him.
supersoft: For the same reason I think supersoft is scum (disruptive townplay). So yay for us. I still got a scumread after I made my case on ss though.
Pandain/Grack: Both these names shouldn't be on rayn his list. rayn is confident in reading Pandain so he should be sitting on null till Pandain posts. Grack is scum because he is useless? town rayn ignores useless people if he has 4 scumreads in which he strongly believes.
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What I want to point out to everybody that scum rayn is still a very active player, it will always look like he is figuring out the game, scum rayn does this because he needs to come in and be able to take control when it is needed. So while it looks like he is atm playing the game and figuring out alignments I want to show you that he isn't.
The people that played with a town rayn before know that when rayn is figuring somebody out and starts to have a very strong scumread on this player he makes sure everybody in the thread knows about this. He will repeat constantly why somebody is scum and will try to convince people that he is right in every way possible. therefore, it is really important that you guys note down that rayn hasn't tried to convince any of the possible Mayors why he is town and or push his reads upon them. The 1 towngame rayn played like this would be Aperture but I do not believe this is a repeat of that.
Lynch rayn. I am certain that he is the best bet for scum.
Rayn
Let's start with the 6 names rayn just gave us as his scumreads.
Holyflare : rayn made a case on Holyflare nobody understands or nobody supported. But for some reason rayn believed that people supported his case when he was discussing with me earlier. This so so strange because rayn hates it when people don't listen and follow his cases. rayn is scum and doesn't give 2 shits about his case.
Koshi : Started with townread on me, gave me scumread after I made a case on ss and dropped it. However, rayn doesn't know that he is giving me a scumread for that himself it seems as I asked him about why I am scum earlier and he couldn't reply. It is very strange for rayn to not let the thread know why somebody is scum. Especially when he would think and be able to prove I am scum because he can point out why I am scum pretty easily.
(PS: I am not playing afraid, hesitant or restricted this game. Does somebody believe that? Maybe you should ask proof from rayn) (PSII: rayn saying I am scum while I am town makes me bitter)
Sharrant: rayn has had a scumread on Sharrant since Sharrant made the conclusion rayn is scum while it should have been town. Pretty sure that is the same reason why rayn thinks Holyflare is scum. It's just weak, and silly. But could come from town rayn this one. But it's just silly that nobody knows why Sharrant is a scumread from rayn unless you read that 1 post about him.
supersoft: For the same reason I think supersoft is scum (disruptive townplay). So yay for us. I still got a scumread after I made my case on ss though.
Pandain/Grack: Both these names shouldn't be on rayn his list. rayn is confident in reading Pandain so he should be sitting on null till Pandain posts. Grack is scum because he is useless? town rayn ignores useless people if he has 4 scumreads in which he strongly believes.
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What I want to point out to everybody that scum rayn is still a very active player, it will always look like he is figuring out the game, scum rayn does this because he needs to come in and be able to take control when it is needed. So while it looks like he is atm playing the game and figuring out alignments I want to show you that he isn't.
The people that played with a town rayn before know that when rayn is figuring somebody out and starts to have a very strong scumread on this player he makes sure everybody in the thread knows about this. He will repeat constantly why somebody is scum and will try to convince people that he is right in every way possible. therefore, it is really important that you guys note down that rayn hasn't tried to convince any of the possible Mayors why he is town and or push his reads upon them. The 1 towngame rayn played like this would be Aperture but I do not believe this is a repeat of that.
Lynch rayn. I am certain that he is the best bet for scum.
When he writes a case on Rayn his reasoning falls short.
-Who cares if people ignore his case. That doesn't make him scum. I also don't see him not caring that people disagree with his case.
-He says I am afraid. lol you are afraid.
-He thinks Sharrant is scum. But he could do this as town.
-He has the same SS read as me.
-He says he is good at reading Pandain and that Pandain is scum. he should wait longer. (?)
-Town Rayn ignores useless players - (I don't know if this is true and I don't actually remember Rayn spending too much time pushing me.)
Town Koshi is try hard. Koshi's filter this game is completely devoid of reasoning; he makes up scum reads as he goes along through the thread. He's given no reasoning why VA is scum. He's given no reasoning why Storrzerg is scum. He's given no reasoning why Yamato is scum. He's mentioned all of these people being scum several times throughout his filter before.
Koshi isn't town.
I think some of this is suspicious but I also think some of this is weak. I wouldn't put him in my top scum reads, but once I finish analyzing everyone and if there's room for one more scum, I'll put him on there.
