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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 19 2013 21:35 GMT
#3781
On November 20 2013 06:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:
15% of the thread is you. You are 15% of the thread. And you provoke these endless dialogues with other people. I think 40% of the game is now you talking to someone else.
This is just madness. It doesn't help at all.
If I were scum, I'd just talk to you for 10 pages from every now and then. It is that easy.

The good thing is that rayn only does this as town. So we can just sheep him because he is most of the time pretty spot on.

Like with Mocsta?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
November 19 2013 21:35 GMT
#3782
I will prove that I can spam like the best of them!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 19 2013 21:35 GMT
#3783
On November 20 2013 06:30 supersoft wrote:
we have to kill rayn. He won't shut up otherwise.
He's delivering everyone the excuse to not read the game. And I can't blame anyone for it.

Also, I prefer spam over inactivity anyday everyday.
I had a good night of sleep.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 19 2013 21:37 GMT
#3784
super have you read the cases on Pandain? Thoughts? You must know that people arent going to lynch rayn for being loud. Similarly, people arent going to lynch you for being an asshole. Its part of how you play the game. This is town-rayn to a fucking tee, as much as you dont like it.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 21:37 GMT
#3785
To explain my scum/town bc connection, here is why I think BC is more fitting his scum meta.

On November 16 2013 09:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Vayne, what merit does BH lynching you have?

On November 16 2013 10:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 10:15 StorrZerg wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:05 Skanjab1s wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:
On November 16 2013 01:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?

Also what do you think of Skan?

Skan atm is a null read for me but he has said some really dumbass shit. Its not alignment indicative but if he keeps it up he will shift from null to red.

He is leaning scum on two of my strongest town reads currently for no real reason on either.


You should find better townreads then.


or you should be less bad? See how this game is played. How about you give me some real scum reads now rather than terrible ones.


Says the guy who took a whole page to say that Grack likes to troll.


Go read my old games. You will notice my hatred of trolls is well founded, but I still read their posts as they tend to actually slip up. Trolling is never acceptable and the way he is doing it actively hurts the town. Trolling can still be done in a way that while annoying as shit benefits the town. He has done nothing that is good and all that is bad. Look at the way he does his trolling compared to the positive ways he could and you will notice my read is pretty well founded.


This is also pretty convenient to not provide actual scum reads when running for mayor. And when your lynch flips town "well he was trolling so good lynch anyway" becomes acceptable.

I can't agree with this




How about you look at the other points I made on grack, how about you take a gander at the town grack filter I provided and compare to this game. All you are doing currently is repeating shit others have said and defending yourself. How about some real contribution since youve been gone so long and plan to be absent a ton in the near future

On November 16 2013 12:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Anyone else finding it odd that its taken bh more than 3 hours to catch up and post something?

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 19 2013 21:37 GMT
#3786
supersoft looks like an angry little girl who is crying in the corner when he can't dive a bike with people who actually can do that.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 19 2013 21:38 GMT
#3787
Especially when my contributions actually try to achieve something when he is just nomiting something out of his mouth.
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 19 2013 21:38 GMT
#3788
On November 20 2013 06:33 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:22 supersoft wrote:
This game is almost unreadable. I just skimmed through the last 20 pages and there is no content. It's just a huge monologue of rayn. I have to think about that. Maybe i'll do it in my next scumgame.
WAIT! I already did that in one of my scumgames. Because if you cripple the thread for like 3 days or so, everyone loses interest = easy scumwin.



Can you explain to me why you think BC is town? Or at least I got that impression from you in our chats and in thread.

I think BC is either scum or playing poorly, and I don't think I can decide that yet to make a definitive decision to lynch him tomorrow.

I'll explain my analysis:

1. He berated rayn for trying to find masons, yet in our first post in our mason chat he revealed something connected to you that I'm sure you know today. So that doesn't make sense. And I don't think I was town enough to justify revealing that info.

2. I revealed my mig notes' discovery which I felt pretty much definitively proved Mig is town. I don't like how BC was hesistant giving him a high town read. Here's his quote:
Show nested quote +
yeah. This actually could clear him. I know that SS was somewhat suspect of him but I think this essentially clears him. The only minute chance I think would be him as an assassin but given that the notes are public very unlikely

It says he's town, but I don't like how it just seems hesistant. Maybe I'm overthinking this part.


I looked over his town and scum games and the biggest thing that I found to differentiate them is that Town BC will find something suspicious and then analyze it himself. Scum BC will simply note it(until of course he gives a later big analysis) .

I don't like other areas of BC's play either
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 01:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

Point 3 has a ton of merit and looks bad. I honestly prefer a grack / storr lynch at this point but if HF keeps this behaviour up we will have a solid #3 to the list


Just seems weird to me, add that I think his grack analysis was pretty poor. "HF, if you keep this up, we'll lynch you!" Guess scum HF now knows what to do.

And other stuff like that, I can explain more if you want


BC has to explain these things in your QT.
I still believe he's town. Would be a grave mistake to vote him today.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 21:39 GMT
#3789
On November 20 2013 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
ss pan and BC all seem like really good kills


Mattchew you keep inviting yourself to get lynched
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 19 2013 21:39 GMT
#3790
On November 20 2013 06:39 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
ss pan and BC all seem like really good kills


Mattchew you keep inviting yourself to get lynched


strong candidate for the "too bad to be scum"-award
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 21:40 GMT
#3791
I don't doubt that SS, BH deserves to get 100% lynched.

I'm just still wondering why you think BC is town. I still haven't figured that out from you.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 19 2013 21:40 GMT
#3792
I see a bunch of quotes and an emphasis on "BC no like trolls".

Well done Pandain;

@Rayn
How certain are you that BH is scum? I read through your case on Pandain and the parts about BH are similar to my own thoughts - Pandain is all over the fucking place. I'd say its in a way that doesn't look like a bus. I dont think BH is scum, there I said it.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 19 2013 21:41 GMT
#3793
On November 20 2013 06:35 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:34 Koshi wrote:
supersoft might have released the kraken.

or even worse, the gracken.

+ Show Spoiler +
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I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 19 2013 21:42 GMT
#3794
... I am telling you people ... We lynch BH no matter what.
I had a good night of sleep.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 19 2013 21:43 GMT
#3795
On November 20 2013 06:22 supersoft wrote:
This game is almost unreadable. I just skimmed through the last 20 pages and there is no content. It's just a huge monologue of rayn. I have to think about that. Maybe i'll do it in my next scumgame.
WAIT! I already did that in one of my scumgames. Because if you cripple the thread for like 3 days or so, everyone loses interest = easy scumwin.


supersoft! ignore everyone else. if you really think that rayn is cluttering up the thread then stop talking about him

You thought BH was assassin before I posted his claim right?

Do you still think this? Why aren't you trying to save him? Oats is probably not getting lynched at this point. The only other two viable lynches seem to be pandain and bc.

A pandain lynch would make me a happy thrawn. I might be willing to consolidate on BC but it's not likely unless he's the only alternative to the BH lynch. I really liked his analysis of the mocsta/grack situation and there's been a few other times where his thought process has lined up with mine.

lol actually no i'm not lynching BC. imo he's the towniest out the vet group and I distinctly remember marv participating in a heated discussion about balancing teams

can everyone on BH look and panda and grack one more time?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 19 2013 21:45 GMT
#3796
On November 20 2013 06:40 Pandain wrote:
I don't doubt that SS, BH deserves to get 100% lynched.


Can you walk me through your thought process on BH again? I want you to start from the very moment you were suspicious of him, and include any and all times that your read changed and why.

the way you say he "deserves" to get lynched suggests that you know he aint gonna flip red
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 21:48 GMT
#3797
Thrawn we have talked about this way too much. I'm not going to change my mind.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 19 2013 21:49 GMT
#3798
On November 20 2013 06:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
I see a bunch of quotes and an emphasis on "BC no like trolls".

Well done Pandain;

@Rayn
How certain are you that BH is scum? I read through your case on Pandain and the parts about BH are similar to my own thoughts - Pandain is all over the fucking place. I'd say its in a way that doesn't look like a bus. I dont think BH is scum, there I said it.

I am very certain.
What i am saying about Pandain is that it could be a bus, because Pandain immediately retracts from his scumread on BH when BH un-claims. If they are both scum Pandain would know BH will retract from the claim and has an out already for calling BH scum earlier (because it was based purely on the claim - and he made a really bad argument about BH's earlier fakeclaims as scum, he even quoted the I'm a cop you idiot -game where the point of the game is for scum to fakeclaim cop, it has nothing to do with his claim in this game).
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 19 2013 21:51 GMT
#3799
On November 20 2013 06:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:22 supersoft wrote:
This game is almost unreadable. I just skimmed through the last 20 pages and there is no content. It's just a huge monologue of rayn. I have to think about that. Maybe i'll do it in my next scumgame.
WAIT! I already did that in one of my scumgames. Because if you cripple the thread for like 3 days or so, everyone loses interest = easy scumwin.


supersoft! ignore everyone else. if you really think that rayn is cluttering up the thread then stop talking about him

You thought BH was assassin before I posted his claim right?

Do you still think this? Why aren't you trying to save him? Oats is probably not getting lynched at this point. The only other two viable lynches seem to be pandain and bc.

A pandain lynch would make me a happy thrawn. I might be willing to consolidate on BC but it's not likely unless he's the only alternative to the BH lynch. I really liked his analysis of the mocsta/grack situation and there's been a few other times where his thought process has lined up with mine.

lol actually no i'm not lynching BC. imo he's the towniest out the vet group and I distinctly remember marv participating in a heated discussion about balancing teams

can everyone on BH look and panda and grack one more time?


That's the biggest thing that makes him NOT town.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 19 2013 21:51 GMT
#3800
On November 20 2013 06:48 Pandain wrote:
Thrawn we have talked about this way too much. I'm not going to change my mind.


at this point i'm more interested in trying to get a read on you than what you do with your vote. the reason I keep asking you to talk about this is because I'm still having a hard time seeing wtf your thought process actually would be if you're town

so just indulge me, ok?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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