EPTLM, what is your updated view on how things have gone. Has anything drastically changed and have you caught up?
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LM, what is your updated view on how things have gone. Has anything drastically changed and have you caught up? | ||
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My other vote will go on risen. He comes into the thread and gives us a few names, tells us players look bad and then leaves again. His scum game that I played with him he did the same thing, although in a much more gameplaying way. He is pretty useless and just trying to confuse us. Therefore: ##Vote: Risen ##Vote: BloodyC0bbler | ||
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On November 23 2013 04:29 Onegu wrote: No I was caught up with this thread, I had read everything I just didnt add much, and didnt feel like I needed to. Regardless of if I am in 2 games or not irl stuff would have came up and I would be absent from this game for the same period, I didnt post over there either. You've given us unsubstantiated reads, why are your choices scum, what proves it, why should we vote them. Don't expect us to listen to what you have to say until you actually give content. | ||
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Onegu is literally full of crap too. Yes, I bussed in hogwarts but that was because it was necessary, the entire scum team died bar 3 people. This game nothing really went wrong, what need would I have to bus? 1 scum is dead in 2 nights. Not really a scenario where anyone would need to bus really, he comes back to the thread claiming that he has read but really, nothing he says has any weight to it. He gives an updated list of people he thinks are scum, 2 names. 2 names that he has "pushed" this game to no avail and when there is a 5 man scum team that is appalling. BC, why isn't EVERYONE ON THIS GUY. A fucking vigi aimed claimed to aim his shot at BC and he was RB'd, how much more evidence do you even need?? If BC was town, he would be dead 100%. There is no way that they waste a rb on a vig attacking a town instead of potentially using it elsewhere because really, who else was in the limelight other than BC for potential lynch today? A list of lurkers. Great. There is no logical reason he is alive other than the entire scum being lurkers. | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:15 Risen wrote: Which part are you referring to. I'm an open book yo The part about WHC and you returning to screw things up. That's what you did in that game. You had a scum read on me day 1 because I said the same thing yet somehow it fell off with not really much comment on it and now here we are again with you saying the same thing, disregarding everything before. I want to know why this game is different to that game? It's just less words but same motive IMO | ||
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On November 23 2013 08:52 Risen wrote: I think up until about three hours ago you would have been correct. Then shit hit the fan and things went to hell in a hand basket. I think scum are now having to get involved in the conversation. Who was the one that returned to get in the conversation again? Oh yeh that was you. You clearly haven't read i made huge cases on hopeless/oats and bc day 2 which bc is followed up on, the other became unsure outliers and i could have switched to any of them if you weren't being difficult | ||
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On November 23 2013 14:28 Onegu wrote: So I can tottally see a scum Koshi pushing for a town rayn lynch so he can go post game I got you because of thier history, and because of this he makes sure austin hammers him. HF you bus as scum, yes the situation was different but that doesnt change the fact that YOU CALLED ME SCUM DAY 1 WHEN WE STILL HAD 6 SCUMMERS IN HOGWARTS. /dunked I think you're confusing bussing with calling out an afk team mate. You honestly believe I was pushing BC all throughout day 2 just to lynch a mafia doctor over an easy BH assassin lynch? Onegu your reads seriously need updating because the only thing you have called me up on is the LM thing on day 1 and you even give reasoning for why he SHOULDN'T be town??? We NEEDED to bus on hogwarts because we were losing so badly and every day our kp got blocked. This game is going way too favourably for scum for someone to do that, I agree light bussing maybe in order, which is why thrawn is scummy as all shit for his vote on BC whilst seemingly defending him the entire time but for your only reads to be austin (who has appeared to be very towny the past day and me (who did a lot to get BC shot/lynched)) you must be kidding right? On November 23 2013 06:21 Onegu wrote: 4:18 am Goodnight.... Im not goinf to lynch LM rayn, I still cant believe a scum LM would mason a town yamato. He would ask his scum qt what he should do and they wouldnt let him do that, and yes he would ask, I have been on the same scum team with him twice and he always asks. Pandain maybe I could but I dont have the energy to look right now. This is exactly what I said about LM and exactly what Onegu is calling me scummy for. LM would come back and ask for the towniest person to mason with = yamato. I can't honestly believe this guy has lived so long. @Everyone else, I want to point you in the direction of Onegu. Not only has he returned to the thread with no real reads whatsoever he has been absent from pretty much every conversation we've had in order to solve this game EVERY day. Where have you seen his input that has made you think "hmm, maybe he's right lets do that", the answer is never and then he returns with a town read on BC, ignoring any facts that occured through the vig shot scenario or his posts on d2. Then I direct you to this post: On November 23 2013 18:32 Onegu wrote: Welcome to town meta onegu. I learned not to do this in my first two newbies as scum so I only do it as town now. This struck me as interesting because I don't think anyone would intentionally say they are playing to their own town meta. Then I remembered that Onegu has said this before here: (This is from Hogwarts Scum QT) onegu 10-17-2013 05:45 PM ET (US) Im playing to my town meta, I will be more active tomorrow. In my qt they have you holy pegged as town. Anyway I have to sleep now, will catchup in the morning. He is confident that he knows his town meta and can play to it. So why would he say that here if he wasn't trying to intentionally play to it too? _________________________________ There are a lot of specifics on Onegu's filter that I can get into and make a case on but for now I think Onegu is actually scum. His votes were on his scum reads austin and me which had nobody else on them but he didn't vote on his null reads to save his town read? Really? That doesn't compute. Of course scum can pull shenanigans at the last minute, that is what they are known for, he knows this too but still doesn't register it. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Marvellosity: Holyflare + supersoft mason Day 3/Night 3 Holyflare: Hello! Supersoft: hi. Whats up? I have an exam from 13:45-18.45 CEST and I will hit the gym after that. I'll be here at about 21:00 CEST Can you give me some analysis on my red/black-listed people? Supersoft: what do you want from me? Calling me scum? Holyflare: You want reads on everyone in the game...? Supersoft: sure! Holyflare: Sorry i was out and could only post a few posts from my phone every so often. What I want to know is why you get the feeling that BC is town, I mean, everything he has done has pointed to him not possessing a towny mindset. Coming up with a reason that grack is scum despite saying mocsta's flip absolves everyone he was arguing with, returning to the thread and arguing that we aren't lynching lurkers and BH when everyone in the thread was on BH. One of his top 3 scum reads was shot by mig and his only actual contribution this game was to question mig why he shot him? Is your view based purely on your mason QT because I do not get a towny impression from him there, he calls BH 100% definitive scum despite saying that BH is also unreadable, his scum read was grack for trolling and being useless but that ignores other people that were doing the same; oats etc. Supersoft: i have a good discussion with mig going on. It's really refreshing to talk in these QTs out of crazyrayns range. Holyflare: BloodyC0bbler - scummy, based on what I just said Mig - BC does put doubt into my mind about him but as I see it he didn't shoot BC because me and artanis were putting up a smokescreen to shoot BC, Mig didn't want to waste a bullet by shooting the same target and he can't possibly know there is a rb'er on their team if nobody has said so so far and if this whole affair wasn't mentioned my original read on him was town Onegu - He hasn't been here but his first posts were only targetting me and for shitty reasons, he then focused austin and that's his entire contribution this game, he just returned and made a god awful list of who he thought was scum without any reasoning. I think he might be scum. Koshi - He looks like towny koshi, he's trying to get rayn killed right now because he thinks he is justified in his read on him. I don't think he'd go out of his way to go past thread sentiment and get people to vote rayn Coagulation - I do not know anything about him hiro protagonist thrawn2112 - is posting in another game and not here after being called out by austin (even if that case seemed misguided) also scummy Hopeless1der - original scum read, hasn't changed, not contributing Grackaroni - mocsta flip made him look towny, I do not know what to honestly think of him other than his total lack of real contributions, I'd have to wait for a BC flip because if BC flips scum I think grack is also scum Pandain - looked scummy based off of rayn's/hopeless' case, hasn't said much after day 2 half way. Haven't got awful vibes from him and I'm pretty sure he claimed doctor to you based on his reactions. Still a bit surprised that he claimed 25 posts into a mason qt with you because he had no way of knowing if you were town based on that, looks like a case of too much knowledge if anything supersoft - i really liked your day 1, I've felt that you have slipped off a bit. I liked that you didn't want to lynch BH because I was pushing the same vendetta to gain information. I think you are pretty towny for that, covered up a potential doc too so yeh VayneAuthority - no reason not to believe he isn't hatter, hasn't promoted an agenda like people say his scum games have raynpelikoneet - towny from sheer amount of posts and confusion on his part, dumb, but towny  austinmcc - think he might be vet, his questions day 1 didn't really lead anywhere towards his reads, in mason chat with me he also ignored me when i was talking about mocsta until I called him out for it and then he said "oh yeh dont think mocsta is scum", wary of him but his play today suggests towny Risen - ......nothing to comment on but ruining town Mr. Cheesecake - lurker, no idea LoneMeow - also lurker, made a case on why he could be scum and I think that applies, been sitting back whilst we shit on everything Alakaslam - don't think he's scum based off of day 1/2 but can't be sure as he's changed his style a lot Oatsmaster - I made a case on him with BC and hopeless as my other reads, I think his play was really bad and everytime I mention him people throw me off of him saying useless is his town meta... -.- Holyflare: wow sorry that was totally bad formatting........... Holyflare: BloodyC0bbler - scummy, based on what I just said Mig - BC does put doubt into my mind about him but as I see it he didn't shoot BC because me and artanis were putting up a smokescreen to shoot BC, Mig didn't want to waste a bullet by shooting the same target and he can't possibly know there is a rb'er on their team if nobody has said so so far and if this whole affair wasn't mentioned my original read on him was town Onegu - He hasn't been here but his first posts were only targetting me and for shitty reasons, he then focused austin and that's his entire contribution this game, he just returned and made a god awful list of who he thought was scum without any reasoning. I think he might be scum. Koshi - He looks like towny koshi, he's trying to get rayn killed right now because he thinks he is justified in his read on him. I don't think he'd go out of his way to go past thread sentiment and get people to vote rayn Coagulation - I do not know anything about him hiro protagonist thrawn2112 - is posting in another game and not here after being called out by austin (even if that case seemed misguided) also scummy Hopeless1der - original scum read, hasn't changed, not contributing Grackaroni - mocsta flip made him look towny, I do not know what to honestly think of him other than his total lack of real contributions, I'd have to wait for a BC flip because if BC flips scum I think grack is also scum Pandain - looked scummy based off of rayn's/hopeless' case, hasn't said much after day 2 half way. Haven't got awful vibes from him and I'm pretty sure he claimed doctor to you based on his reactions. Still a bit surprised that he claimed 25 posts into a mason qt with you because he had no way of knowing if you were town based on that, looks like a case of too much knowledge if anything supersoft - i really liked your day 1, I've felt that you have slipped off a bit. I liked that you didn't want to lynch BH because I was pushing the same vendetta to gain information. I think you are pretty towny for that, covered up a potential doc too so yeh VayneAuthority - no reason not to believe he isn't hatter, hasn't promoted an agenda like people say his scum games have raynpelikoneet - towny from sheer amount of posts and confusion on his part, dumb, but towny austinmcc - think he might be vet, his questions day 1 didn't really lead anywhere towards his reads, in mason chat with me he also ignored me when i was talking about mocsta until I called him out for it and then he said "oh yeh dont think mocsta is scum", wary of him but his play today suggests towny Risen - ......nothing to comment on but ruining town Mr. Cheesecake - lurker, no idea LoneMeow - also lurker, made a case on why he could be scum and I think that applies, been sitting back whilst we shit on everything Alakaslam - don't think he's scum based off of day 1/2 but can't be sure as he's changed his style a lot Oatsmaster - I made a case on him with BC and hopeless as my other reads, I think his play was really bad and everytime I mention him people throw me off of him saying useless is his town meta... -.- Supersoft: your read on me is strange you need to explain that to me. What am I doing with the doctor? Holyflare: I called pandain out on the fact that he said in post 25 of your mason log "you are town btw so i'm a vet, the way he worded it (I realise you aren't a native speaker) does not imply he is a veteran player it implies that since you are town he should tell you that he is a vet role. When called out about this he said "SS must have forged the logs because I never said that" so I assumed you did it because he was a doctor and you were covering for him. Now I find out you didn't change the log at all and so he is a liar. Is that information correct? Holyflare: I want to know your reads though. Holyflare: Also who your rb'd, can't remember if you mentioned it Supersoft: Oats and after that Mattchew. My reads are in my filter. I made a list and I have cases on Risen, Oats, Thrawn and Coag. Holyflare: Why are you ignoring everything I say about pandain? Holyflare: I also want detailed reads like i have done, not a list please Ignored everything to do with discussing my reads other than mention himself, ignores everything to do with BC and pandain too. This guy is suspicious as all hell in this QT. | ||
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On November 24 2013 00:54 supersoft wrote: i had no time to further deal with you... It was pointless and I cannot do everything at once. At the same time i was talking to mig in our QT and posting in the thread and rereading. What do you expect from me? The flip was a long time ago and you can talk in qt's during night, you mentioned nothing about anything at all. There are still things to talk about. | ||
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He stated he picked a player on the list. I never said scum LM picked randomly I said his qt told him who to mason quite blatantly here: " This is 100% LM that I saw in hogwarts when he was scum. He comes into the QT, asks what he should do with his power and asks who he should focus on. His power got used on conveniently the most towny person at the start of the game without reading.... " | ||
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