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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:04 GMT
#2361
On November 18 2013 03:00 Koshi wrote:
There is too much angry in you rayn, you havent done enough work to justify that anger. The anger is nothing new btw. Started quite early in your filter.
PS: Nobody knows why you think Holyflare is scum.



See this makes rayn town....
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:06 GMT
#2362
On November 18 2013 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 03:03 Onegu wrote:
Koshi you dont think rayn actually believes HF is scum, like some of rayns points arent the best but I really think he thinks he found scum. And Im not the biggest fan of HF either but that is besides the point.


Did you read what I wrote to you earlier by the way?



Yeah but I havent mulled over what it means yet, I plan on going back to it after I finish my filter reads.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 17 2013 18:08 GMT
#2363
huuuuuuh......? Onegu, let me just give you some food for thought re:rayn because your analysis of him isn't necessarily correct.

Here is his WHC mafia filter he's doing the exact same thing he did in that game. Tunneling onto me and not being entirely coherent on his cases. People didn't think they made sense, just like now. I was town, he was scum in that game.

What do you think now? I want to hear the reasons of your thinking rather than opinions.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 17 2013 18:09 GMT
#2364
On November 18 2013 03:04 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 03:00 Koshi wrote:
There is too much angry in you rayn, you havent done enough work to justify that anger. The anger is nothing new btw. Started quite early in your filter.
PS: Nobody knows why you think Holyflare is scum.

See this makes rayn town....

If rayn found scum, everybody knows why that person is scum. This game we dont know why Holyflare is scum in rayns mind even though rayn made posts about how his case is the best and how he doesnt have to repeat why Holyflare is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 18:13 GMT
#2365
If people can't understand these simple things then my work is done here and i can quit this game:

1) Holyflare says i called Risen town. I didn't, i explained it. After that Holyflare still says i called Risen town. This means he has either not read my posts (which is unbelieveable because he thought i was scum for it) or he has read my posts and arguing about bullshit. If he had read my posts he should have called me out for making up bullshit but he didn't. Instead he twisted the argument into something i have never said - in any case what Holyflare says i did is not true - he is making shit up for some reason and townies do not make shit up.

2) He made a big ass campaign for running for mayor. He never followed those points he brought up and the campaign was shit in the first place. He never did try to convince anyone someone is scum. He never tried to get anyone lynched. He never tried to convince the other candidates someone was scum. He doesn't even have scumreads it seems because he is not talking about them.

3) His read on me changed for no reason. None of the reasons he called me scum for "went away". The only thing that happened was i made some reads (which he did call bad).

4) That's all he has done this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 18:14 GMT
#2366
On November 18 2013 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 03:04 Onegu wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:00 Koshi wrote:
There is too much angry in you rayn, you havent done enough work to justify that anger. The anger is nothing new btw. Started quite early in your filter.
PS: Nobody knows why you think Holyflare is scum.

See this makes rayn town....

If rayn found scum, everybody knows why that person is scum. This game we dont know why Holyflare is scum in rayns mind even though rayn made posts about how his case is the best and how he doesnt have to repeat why Holyflare is scum.

That's because you can't read or are scum.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 18:17 GMT
#2367
It's funny how the people who can actually read me don't call me scum (yamato and Onegu) and basically everyone else does. Go ahead and make a big case Koshi, nobody knows why you think i am scum.
table for two on a tv tray
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:22 GMT
#2368
On November 18 2013 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
huuuuuuh......? Onegu, let me just give you some food for thought re:rayn because your analysis of him isn't necessarily correct.

Here is his WHC mafia filter he's doing the exact same thing he did in that game. Tunneling onto me and not being entirely coherent on his cases. People didn't think they made sense, just like now. I was town, he was scum in that game.

What do you think now? I want to hear the reasons of your thinking rather than opinions.



Nah thats different imo, first in that game he makes the case on you, people question him on it and he defends it lightly not pushing it much and then unvotes you saying he might be wrong.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 17 2013 18:26 GMT
#2369
On November 18 2013 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's funny how the people who can actually read me don't call me scum (yamato and Onegu) and basically everyone else does. Go ahead and make a big case Koshi, nobody knows why you think i am scum.

For 2morroz
I had a good night of sleep.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:26 GMT
#2370
On November 18 2013 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 03:04 Onegu wrote:
On November 18 2013 03:00 Koshi wrote:
There is too much angry in you rayn, you havent done enough work to justify that anger. The anger is nothing new btw. Started quite early in your filter.
PS: Nobody knows why you think Holyflare is scum.

See this makes rayn town....

If rayn found scum, everybody knows why that person is scum. This game we dont know why Holyflare is scum in rayns mind even though rayn made posts about how his case is the best and how he doesnt have to repeat why Holyflare is scum.



Ask WoS if that is true. Town rayn tunnels him hardcore with reasons arent so solid in P4. And not everyone were convinced WoS was scum either. Rayn can make cases that not everyone follows as town or scum, its how he pushes those cases and what he does with them that make him scum or town.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 17 2013 18:29 GMT
#2371
Meh, don't blame you VE for being a knucklehead. Not who I would have killed, but I didn't run for mayor. Up next to kill should be yamato/OOHCHILD/HF
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
November 17 2013 18:30 GMT
#2372
I can't make sense of the thread right now.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 17 2013 18:30 GMT
#2373
Koshi can you comment on austin?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 17 2013 18:32 GMT
#2374
On November 18 2013 03:30 Onegu wrote:
Koshi can you comment on austin?

Austin is town in my book.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 17 2013 18:33 GMT
#2375
On November 18 2013 03:22 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
huuuuuuh......? Onegu, let me just give you some food for thought re:rayn because your analysis of him isn't necessarily correct.

Here is his WHC mafia filter he's doing the exact same thing he did in that game. Tunneling onto me and not being entirely coherent on his cases. People didn't think they made sense, just like now. I was town, he was scum in that game.

What do you think now? I want to hear the reasons of your thinking rather than opinions.



Nah thats different imo, first in that game he makes the case on you, people question him on it and he defends it lightly not pushing it much and then unvotes you saying he might be wrong.


So then, if I were to say, agree with you that that is how rayn plays town. The difference in his pushes, can you see why I'd get a then town read on rayn earlier? Seeing as this is one of rayn's main points in his case is that not up to you to correct him? Why have you let him continue with it if you are agreeing with what I said?
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
November 17 2013 18:33 GMT
#2376
On November 18 2013 03:29 Risen wrote:
Meh, don't blame you VE for being a knucklehead. Not who I would have killed, but I didn't run for mayor. Up next to kill should be yamato/OOHCHILD/HF


You think Yamato scum? Why?

Do you actually think OOHCHILD scum, or are you more of a policy lynch sorta guy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 17 2013 18:35 GMT
#2377
On November 18 2013 03:29 Risen wrote:
Meh, don't blame you VE for being a knucklehead. Not who I would have killed, but I didn't run for mayor. Up next to kill should be yamato/OOHCHILD/HF


Some explanation would be nice because scum risen said these exact same things in WHC about upcoming lynches. I'd like some actual reasoning behind your intentions please.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 17 2013 18:40 GMT
#2378
Also, a question to rayn. Why if you think I am most definitely scum have you not questioned me on reads of other people? Surely you could be making connection theories, arguments, researching my points on them, doing anything in any shape or form to determine your next move? Why have so much aggression on one person when there are actually 6 scum?

In that light, @rayn, what do you think of pandain? He may or may not feature in my cases.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#2379
On November 18 2013 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
Also, a question to rayn. Why if you think I am most definitely scum have you not questioned me on reads of other people? Surely you could be making connection theories, arguments, researching my points on them, doing anything in any shape or form to determine your next move? Why have so much aggression on one person when there are actually 6 scum?

In that light, @rayn, what do you think of pandain? He may or may not feature in my cases.

Because i have only 1 vote (maybe two given what VE does) during the day.
I think i have pretty clearly told what i think of Pandain. Are you again not reading?

Do you think i am scum or not?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 17 2013 18:45 GMT
#2380
Holflare what about these 5? You think any of them are certain town?

Rayn, VA, yamato, LM, BH
I had a good night of sleep.
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