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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 04 2013 01:12 GMT
#121
I am sooo uncomfortably unfamiliar with this player list.. I think Syl, WoS, and maybe Sn0 are the only people I've played with?

OH lol and rayn ofc
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
November 04 2013 01:30 GMT
#122
On November 04 2013 09:50 Vanesco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 08:53 Sylencia wrote:
So to anyone who was in the original game, other than our usual win-con, what else should we be looking at in terms of how Witchcraft works?

I don't really like this. You don't really put effort in to even cross-check the players from the last game (of witchcraft) which is really simple to do. The only player to play in the last one is Thrawn who was shot night 1. But I think that is not very relevant since each game can turn out different. I think you should come to your own conclusions on how to play this themed game instead of hoping others tell you how to play. It just seems like your not willing to put the effort in to even try to solve this game for yourself. It's also very dangerous to discuss strategy because scum can see everything also and can use that against town. I'm of the opinion that everybody should play the way THEY think is the correct way to play.

I think it's scummy that I read this and I can't tell if you think Sylencia is scummy or not, when my first impression was 'he's acting accusatory' (with your first line) but then continue reading and can't actually determine if you just think his thoughts are bad or if he's scummy for his lack of ideas on the setup and for him not looking up a player list.
Also, asking us not to discuss strategy is blatantly scum agenda.
##Vote: Vanesco
Also, I support claiming votes and actions after they occur, so once it's back to the blues being VTs and unviggable, can't really think of a downside.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 04 2013 01:43 GMT
#123
##Vote: raynpelikoneet
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 04 2013 01:48 GMT
#124
Umasi can I sheep you?
I don't even like sheeping but I fucking love your post.
Also you're not lynching me like you said you would so that's a plus.

Hell I'll even add a little of my own somethin'-somethin'.

Vanesco's post looks like typical 'scum trying to jump on the first odd thing somebody does for early game contributions n' shizz.

##Vote: Vanesco

Vanesco it was you who said you're new to TL but not new to mafia in general, right?

Also thrawn y dat vote?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Vanesco
Profile Joined October 2013
United States105 Posts
November 04 2013 02:03 GMT
#125
Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 04 2013 02:05 GMT
#126
On November 04 2013 10:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote: raynpelikoneet

wassup?
table for two on a tv tray
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 04 2013 02:07 GMT
#127
On November 04 2013 11:03 Vanesco wrote:
Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day.

Vanesco seems like a reasonable fellow at the moment, he was the tat to my tit, the business time to my business socks. I like his response here.

WoS could make that response as either side, I interpret his endorsement of Umasi purely as appreciation for that post. The tidbit about not even liking to sheep makes me lean more town than scum.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 04 2013 02:11 GMT
#128
On November 04 2013 11:03 Vanesco wrote:
Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day.

ugghghghghghghgh
I hate this conversation. It happens so damn often.

First of all: don't talk about ongoing games. Even if you're dead. (I make that mistake way too often as well.)
Second - I don't find joking around early game or your attempt to 'start conversation' or move shit forward alignment indicative. Waaayyyy too much WIFOM there, so I'm going to ignore it.

Let's talk about something relevant, shall we?
What do you think of hzflank and his attempt to make plays?
Or Sylencia's response to your attack?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 04 2013 02:12 GMT
#129
On November 04 2013 11:07 ObviousOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 11:03 Vanesco wrote:
Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day.

Vanesco seems like a reasonable fellow at the moment, he was the tat to my tit, the business time to my business socks. I like his response here.

WoS could make that response as either side, I interpret his endorsement of Umasi purely as appreciation for that post. The tidbit about not even liking to sheep makes me lean more town than scum.

Why dat? I feel like my first instinct (meta aside) if I were analyzing a post like that would be scum making early excuses for himself. Seems like an odd conclusion to draw.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 04 2013 02:13 GMT
#130
btw i am going to be most likely useless this game, at least if WoS is town and dies.
table for two on a tv tray
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 04 2013 02:14 GMT
#131
On November 04 2013 11:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 11:07 ObviousOne wrote:
On November 04 2013 11:03 Vanesco wrote:
Yes that was me WaveofShadow (what name abbreviation do you prefer?). I haven't played with anybody here but ObviousOne was host of my only TL game (Newbie Mini Mafia 50). If you just look at like first 1-2 pages of day 1 of that then you realize that I start off pretty similar. I don't like to start of games with "oh how is everybody doing, lets have fun and make jokes guys". That contributes very little to town in my opinion and just putting something on someone will always get the conversation rolling. Overall I'm happy the game is being started (more seriously) and that suspicion is being put on people (even if it is me). We are never going to gain anything just sitting around and making jokes all day.

Vanesco seems like a reasonable fellow at the moment, he was the tat to my tit, the business time to my business socks. I like his response here.

WoS could make that response as either side, I interpret his endorsement of Umasi purely as appreciation for that post. The tidbit about not even liking to sheep makes me lean more town than scum.

Why dat? I feel like my first instinct (meta aside) if I were analyzing a post like that would be scum making early excuses for himself. Seems like an odd conclusion to draw.

I was keeping it quite jovial. I'm sort of surprised I wasn't the target of his concern if he really wanted to get down to business but it seems more a stylistic choice of play.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 04 2013 02:15 GMT
#132
Plus I want people nice and comfortable so they will talk more. Feels like a really slow start. Totes allowed to change my mind later.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 04 2013 02:20 GMT
#133
On November 04 2013 11:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw i am going to be most likely useless this game, at least if WoS is town and dies.

all of my wat
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 04 2013 02:22 GMT
#134
i mean not much posts, i say what i say when i have to say WoS, like now.
table for two on a tv tray
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 04 2013 02:25 GMT
#135
On November 04 2013 11:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean not much posts, i say what i say when i have to say WoS, like now.

I mean, I get the spam reduction, but you 'had to say' that if I'm town and I die you won't be talking?

I don't think I understand.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Vanesco
Profile Joined October 2013
United States105 Posts
November 04 2013 02:33 GMT
#136
On November 04 2013 11:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
What do you think of hzflank and his attempt to make plays?
Or Sylencia's response to your attack?


I'm assuming you are talking about this. I like hzflank's analysis since it makes sense to me, but like I mentioned before I do not like really discussing strategy that much since scum can just meta it. Overall it feels like a townny play trying to rally everybody in one general direction.

With Sylencia I can understand being busy and being a little lazy even tho it took me maybe a minute to cross reference people. He even answers himself that unless anybody obs'd last game then there is no answer to his question. So at this moment I have him as a null read.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 04 2013 02:33 GMT
#137
On November 04 2013 11:14 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm sort of surprised I wasn't the target of his concern if he really wanted to get down to business.


Can you refer me to what you're referring to?

##unvote hello rayn
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 04 2013 02:34 GMT
#138
Looking the playerlist you are the guy i can work with the best.
I can't read OO for shit.
I hope Cephiro does not do dumb stuff like he did in Hogwarts.
Lurk Sylencia = lynch, otherwise idk
Sn0dude played really well in Hogwarts, i except that from him here aswell.
gumshoe ....
thrawn i misread on Desert until he actually started making sense, hope he does that too here
Umasi was good in some game as town i think? Says nothing = lynch
Onegu is tricky, damn he was tricky in Hogwarts. A guy to read closely.
ET is town or scum at last N1, based purely on Hogwarts.
hzflank i can read.
Vanesco noob, no idea. contribute or die.

and yeah, that's it.
table for two on a tv tray
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 04 2013 02:37 GMT
#139
On November 04 2013 11:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 11:14 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm sort of surprised I wasn't the target of his concern if he really wanted to get down to business.


Can you refer me to what you're referring to?

##unvote hello rayn

The absence of goofing around? Or what?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
November 04 2013 02:40 GMT
#140
On November 04 2013 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Looking the playerlist you are the guy i can work with the best.
I can't read OO for shit.
I hope Cephiro does not do dumb stuff like he did in Hogwarts.
Lurk Sylencia = lynch, otherwise idk
Sn0dude played really well in Hogwarts, i except that from him here aswell.
gumshoe ....
thrawn i misread on Desert until he actually started making sense, hope he does that too here
Umasi was good in some game as town i think? Says nothing = lynch
Onegu is tricky, damn he was tricky in Hogwarts. A guy to read closely.
ET is town or scum at last N1, based purely on Hogwarts.
hzflank i can read.
Vanesco noob, no idea. contribute or die.

and yeah, that's it.

I am easy to read. Filter length is 100% accurate indicator. Scum OO is still a scaredy-cat. Pants-on-head may also be used as a town indicator in lieu of filter length. That takes a bit more time to assess though.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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