Witchcraft Mini Mafia II - Page 3

On November 05 2013 16:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ET i don't think those posts you quoted from thrawn make him scummy. There is noone in this game who has contributed to the game in every post of theirs and his vote on me was perfectly reasonable given our interactions in Desert. If you accuse thrawn of being scum because of that i must say you come off as at least as scummy as him ebcause (1) he actually explained his vote and (2) you could have seen that the vote was totally legit at that time for what i said if you looked at his reasoning.

The last quote is actually the only thing that i agree is scummy and in addition to that there are more of those in thrawn's filter.

But, why are you picking some random quotes from thrawn's filter and make it look like he has not contributed much?
Can you do a compilation of thrawn's & gumshoe's contributions to the game and show me thrawn has contributed more than gumshoe has, because afaik that's what you are accusing thrawn of?

On November 05 2013 17:47 thrawn2112 wrote:


The list:

I was not making a list of who isn't lurking with the promise to attack lurkers. I wasn't even making a list of anti-lurkers. I was making a list of anyone who (including lurkers, obviously) wasn't committing to conversation. So the people not on the list includes both lurkers and people like yourself, who at the time I didn't feel like they'd done anything meaningful. The list even included some people who were borderline lurking but at least had made some type of impression on me. The only purpose of such a list is to hopefully intimidate people not on the list to dip their toes farther into the water.

Rayn vote:

If you've really gone through my town games like you appear to then you should see my rayn vote is very much like something I'd do. And you're wrong, I do give my reasoning and I do not regret having my vote on rayn. I think if you read all of my posts about rayn then you can see a clear progression of my read.

Everything else:

Sorry I just don't take the game seriously 100% of the time, especially when I'm bored.

LOL btw I looked at one of my cases you linked as evidence of how I can write a serious case, and one of my points against prom was that he wasn't being my friend. That whole post was kinda trollish, I'm kinda wondering why you used that as an example because there are probably a lot better ones to pick from. With you claiming to have done meta research on me yet you can't see my rayn vote coming from a town thrawn makes me think you went looking into my meta already knowing the outcome of your results.

On November 05 2013 17:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
I still don't think I'd go Sn0 today (though if he acts the same way tomorrow as he does today he's dead tomorrow) and I feel better about Umasi than I did so maybe it is thrawn.

On November 05 2013 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
TLRD;
(1) EchelonTee's reasoning for thrawn being scum changes half-way through D1 for some parts of his argument. When townies do this they add new content to their case. EchelonTee, instead of doing this, changes his reasoning for old content to fit his case better. There is no town motivation for doing so.
(2) EchelonTee does "skim through player's filter from another game" without actually even skimming through it. There is no town motivation to go into other player's filter from another game and then do nothing there.
[u](3) EchelonTee when being called out for his case says "prove to me he is town". This is not how the game works and everyone should know this. This is a justification to sit on his vote when he can't actually prove (as it seems) thrawn is scum because nobody can possibly prove thrawn is town at this stage of the game.
(4) EchelonTee is not paying attention and making up stuff on the fly. This has been proven by many things. His filter skim, his change of reasoning, his answer to my gumshoe case, him asking people's opinions on his case on thrawn and when people give them he misses it.

None of those things i can see a townie doing in any situation.

On November 05 2013 17:52 EchelonTee wrote:I did not do intensive meta research. I skimmed your posts, but did not skim rayn's posts. If I missed some huge, obvious interaction that shows that you must be town and rayn believes so, I could back off for now.

On November 05 2013 18:07 EchelonTee wrote:

Why not Sn0 today?

On November 06 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Last game I gave him a townread for something and he said stuff like "don't give me a townread for that" and shit. Maybe not full martyr but the mindset is the same. Its "Would scum throw away "towncred" like this? Would scum call attention to themselves like this? Of course not". Its how Onegu plays.

I'll admit that I often get the same vibes from his townplay and in general I have real difficulty reading Onegu, but I'd argue that that makes him a serious liability to have moving into the late game. And he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town.

I mean, if he IS town, then he wants to die so we should oblige him and solve that questionmark. If he is scum, then we lynch scum. It feels like the right move right now.

Besides what townie ever self votes except in frustration? This wasn't frustration it was "look at me I'm so cooperative and want town to win" yeah right.

On November 05 2013 05:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
OO's awful paranoid or something.

Though rayn was being oblivious and threatening votes for bad reasons. OO still overreacted pretty hard.

Thoughts?

On November 05 2013 04:56 ObviousOne wrote:
Rayn that's a pretty shit thing to get hung up about considering it has zero bearing on this game at all, only has anything at all to do with my ability to read WoS as scum.

On November 06 2013 03:38 thrawn2112 wrote:


Yes, scum can martyr but don't town do it way more often? another reason I have to believe Onegu is because of the way he spilled all his reads right before his vote.