EPThey gumshoe. I remember you for when you made that poll that one time
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EchelonTee
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hey gumshoe. I remember you for when you made that poll that one time | ||
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On November 04 2013 07:30 hzflank wrote: Relish it while it lasts. I don't anticipate a quiet or passive game. Why is that? | ||
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On November 04 2013 07:13 thrawn2112 wrote: well it's definitely not a tuesday thing What? | ||
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On November 04 2013 08:53 Sylencia wrote: So to anyone who was in the original game, other than our usual win-con, what else should we be looking at in terms of how Witchcraft works? Kind of strange to say "ususual win-con" as opposed to just "other than our win-con". How do YOU think Witchcraft should be handled? | ||
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On November 04 2013 09:22 EchelonTee wrote: Kind of strange to say "ususual win-con" as opposed to just "other than our win-con". How do YOU think Witchcraft should be handled? On November 04 2013 10:07 Sylencia wrote: Relax there. Anyone who's played with me before nows I'm at work during these hours - though lazy on my part I don't have the time to extensively browse through the past to find all the information I want. In any case I wasn't asking "how to win guys", it was more of a "were there any traps which caused trouble for town that we should look out for" but since there's an entirely new cast of players pretty much there's not really any answers to give unless someone here obsed the last game and can remember it. If you have the time to write that paragraph, you have time to answer my question. Why won't you discuss your thoughts on Witchcraft, and only spend time defending yourself? I disagree with people claiming actions, because if I voted someone as a blue and they avoided the blue-vig, I'd like to continue voting them. | ||
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On November 04 2013 12:00 ObviousOne wrote: If you put Syl on the defensive by attacking for activity you are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of his lynch. That's just how it works with Syl. Try seeing what Syl does proactively first before you go all bat-shit with this. If you don't know Syl's MO then I'll make it one sentence for you: both alignments he ends up defending his activity to death and never gets the chance to do actual scum hunting. Therefore by leaving Syl to his devices you will more quickly get a feel for mindset and goals than cornering him. This is specific to Syl only but you can check out some past games to see what I mean. A scum one was This Town Ain't Big Enough mafia if I recall correctly. Please don't make it harder than it needs to be to get a read on Syl. I'm asking simple questions, not going all bat-shit. Please don't misrepresent me. I am not attacking based off of a lack of activity. I am pointing out that if Syl had the chance to write those lines, he had the time to respond to a simple question. I'm not going to baby someone; that's simply disrespectful. | ||
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On November 04 2013 13:44 Vanesco wrote: I'm having a really big scum read on Umasi currently. As explained before, in his first post I think only consists of 1 real accusation which is that I do not like talking about strategy since scum can meta it. To me it seems that he wants town to discuss strategy which leads me to the two most likely conclusions. 1) He doesn't know what to do, usually means a weak town and can be tricked easily by scum, or 2) mafia that wants to know the towns plans and how to use it against them His only other post is him making a joke at somebody who thinks he's scum and then saying that I didn't pressure Syl hard (which I explain in the paragraph above). He then talks about how I don't like to talk about strategy which I explain why above. He mistakenly calls strategy "mechanics" when they are completely different things (in my opinion). I view mechanics as the rules of the game where strategy is how to play the game. I don't know if this is just me but it seems like he wants to blame that I'm not allowing people to discuss the rules of the game when infact I just don't like when people discuss the strategy they are going to use. I don't like him. Where's the vote? | ||
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On November 04 2013 12:47 thrawn2112 wrote: i'm out for a bit...fairly bland start so far PSA: it is Nov 04 2013 which means I'm wearing a special hat for special people so I will likely NOT be sober at any given moment over the next 24-ish hrs I don't see anything blatantly scummy atm, but I do want to throw this list out there: rayn WoS Sylencia OO Vanesco Umasi if you aren't on this list then that means you either haven't posted, or you haven't posted anything memorable and as such you will be who I focus on first upon returning to the thread. So you are advocating a lurker lynch. | ||
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On November 04 2013 12:52 Umasi wrote: Main reasons we should vote for Vanesco is A: he preferred for a lack of talk about witchcraft specific mechanics (which is scum agenda but wuevuh) B: Ambiguous post about Sylencia, which was scummy at the time for being ambiguous and scumm-ier after ^^^that quote, as explained. On your point A, not wanting to talk about setup isn't necessarily scummy. Scum people love talking about setup because it allows them to stick in a lot of words without pressuring people. Look at me in Hogwarts. Your point B I somewhat agree with. On November 04 2013 13:52 Vanesco wrote: I have no reason to vote currently. There are still many people who have yet to post and it seems like an easy thing to just sheep on somebody else's vote without having to give much input. What are you talking about? Your reasoning for not voting is that other people could sheep onto you without giving input. The problem with that reasoning is as follows: 1.) You state that you have a "really big scum read on Umasi". 2.) If you have a big scum read on someone, it follows that you should want them lynched. 3.) If you vote them and people sheep on to you, those people are helping exact the lynch that you want. If you have a big scum read someone, why do you have a problem with people agreeing with your read? Is your read on Umasi actually not "really big"? This doesn't make sense. Gumshoe, you'd better start talking soon because in your last game (GoT Mafia) you said practically nothing and got vig'd N1 as a VT. I'd not like a repeat. | ||
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On November 04 2013 14:24 Vanesco wrote: I believe that by talking about a plan (in this game, with this setup) is a bad choice because lets say we find out that player X,Y,Z were voted on the most. That means the next 3 votes will probably overlap with at least 1 of the previously chosen players. This just seems like we are giving scum an easy way to kill one of the blue roles. I agree with this post. Without PMs (like in Liar Game, a game with a huge amount of votes+pms) it seems too hard to use Witchcraft Vote analysis to determine alignment. The gain doesn't seem worth the risk. | ||
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On November 04 2013 14:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Do you think Vanesco is scum for his actions or can he be town as well? Null, slight lean to scummy; his demeanor doesn't seem as active and pressuring as it did in Newbie Mafia L. Filter Though he does use the same "large scum read" terminology without immediately voting. On November 04 2013 14:59 thrawn2112 wrote: how's it goin? no, not even thinking about lynching yet. but i'm glad you brought it (lurker lynching) up what do you think about the drama? is it real drama or is it "real" drama? or just distracting and annoying? You said you would focus on the people not on your list. I took that to mean you were targeting lurkers, which you aren't at this point. What's your stance on lynching lurkers? Or am I to assmue that I am the target of your focus? Your set of questions don't make any sense to me. Do I think there is drama: Yes, people are being voted. Do I think it is scum influenced: Yes, it is more than likely that at least one of the active persons is scum. | ||
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On November 04 2013 10:12 thrawn2112 wrote: I am sooo uncomfortably unfamiliar with this player list.. I think Syl, WoS, and maybe Sn0 are the only people I've played with? OH lol and rayn ofc Oh Thrawn, can you tell me what you think of Syl since you've played with him before? | ||
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