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On November 05 2013 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote: He's pretty unapologetic about basically having dick all for most of the day thus far. Doesn't strike me as scummy at the moment, since as you well know it is certainly possible for town not to have strong scumreads on the first day. I do see a marked difference in what I did D1 in ## and what thrawn is doing right now and I will be keeping watch. Rayn, are you going to be playing this game? May as well tell me now. I mean two of his reads are "i have not read their posts". And two of them are "they have not done anything". well that's as much reasoning i have given at this point for someone being scum (which is nothing). At least i do not have 4 targets, only one atm. I will be playing the game, i will tell you who is scum. I don't know yet for sure about who is scum. thrawn were you serious when you said you don't remember Sylencia playing scum? | ||
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thrawn i find that hard to believe because the last game you played here Sylencia was scum in.. | ||
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On November 05 2013 10:44 ObviousOne wrote: Preferable to the out-of-cigarettes Rayn. If you read the last page of my filter.. I was not lying regardless of my alignment. | ||
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After second reading gumshoe's big post was really bad and could have been all said in 10 words. Apparently that was a fake post too.. | ||
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On November 05 2013 10:54 ObviousOne wrote: I thought this was a drunk posting joke. I'm all about dae jokesen. No i really mean it - read my last page of filter from ## game if you are curious. | ||
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On November 05 2013 10:56 ObviousOne wrote: Was your cutting back on spamming in general a tactical move to improve your play (deliberate choice) or just a side effect of other committments? opposite. just because i do not care when i am expected to have near 24/7 activity. | ||
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I don't think that's scummy at all. I had the same kind of train of thought about Vanesco that i see from WoS. Just because WoS did post his thought process in many parts does that make him scum? What's wrong in the thought process, i don't anything wrong with it - maybe i am biased because i thought basically the same at first and reached into similar conclusion than WoS did - but could you elaborate more on why the thought process can't come from a townie? | ||
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First you point out general stuff like "Scum is under constant pressure, scum is also more likely to be inconsistent.". This is not true at all, scum are far more concerned about their image and keeping their story straight than townies are. You call out WoS for trying to look like town because scum try hard to look like town. Townies don't? Then you bring up examples but you do not tell why WoS' actions are scum-motivated rather than town motivated. Then you say this: "Why would one as town ever want to intentionally cause suspicion on himself along his comrades?". You just called you WoS for doing something you are arguing against here. That's the first 33% of your case. Next is the Van thing i addressed already. You bring up many times "this could be scumplay or townplay". That's not convincing and i stop reading an argument that says so because you yourself debunk the argument. You do not tell why WoS "defending" Van must come from scum and cannot come from a townie. That's another 33%. Last part is saying WoS does not have definite scumreads. Nobody does because it's 24h into the game. Just because he does not make a 1000 word case 24h into D1 and is not certain of who is scum does not make him scum, or if it does in your opinion, feel free to tell why because you sure are not telling that in your case. That's the last 33% of the case. 1% is spaces. | ||
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Being undecisive at this point of the game or asking other people's opinions is not scummy. That's pretty much everything i have to say. Of course it would be cool if everyone played perfectly and pressured people and shut down cases/arguments that are obviously bad but that's unfortunately what people are capable of doing. ##Vote: gumshoe just because i do not like anything he has said this game. | ||
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On November 05 2013 12:47 Umasi wrote: am I misunderstanding what you just said? One of the things I dislike about Vanesco is his attempt to stop discussion about coven powers. am I misinterpreting what you just wrote or did you misinterpret what I said? second scum read=echelontee third scum read=Sn0 Still watching rayn. There is no reason to discuss the coven powers ans i dislike every comment that talks about them. It does absolutely no good to town atm. | ||
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On November 05 2013 12:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Come on dude, this is a bit of a copout. Can you explain at all? I really don't think a scum gumshoe would go through the effort to do what he did---do you remember his play from Basterd? tbh no, i do not remember his play from Basterd. I remember he claimed on N1 but i don't even remember why. After that he has been modkilled for inactivity or soht because i accidently outed him as blue (in a game i somehow thought everyone was blue) while he did pretty much nothing. 50% of my case on him is that i want him to actually say something uselful and 50% is that what he has said is either faked for no reason or useless contributions or something that makes no sense to me. | ||
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On November 05 2013 13:14 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright let's play a game. It's called, 'What are people's reads on Syl?' When I get 3-4 answers I will explain my own and why. Bonus points to hzflank if he is one of them. Umasi too. Also Rayn. I think his posting before the last couple of posts is fine. I don't like his vote on ET - what it is based on, and how it happened. ET's posting Sylencia calls him out for was fine at that point he posted the case on thrawn. There is nothing wrong with it and while thrawn has imo made better posts now it seems like Syl is trying to say "look at this guy voting for a person many people think is town" and misrepresenting the vote based on circumstances that were present when ET actually made the vote. Also the vote happened after Sylencia called Cephiro "something to watch out for", then he goes reading filters and suddenly there is a vote on ET as a result of filter diving (in about 15 minutes, i doubt he read many filters..) and i don't like it at all. | ||
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