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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 01:47 GMT
#1394
One thing I just noticed while doing the filter diving needed for that last post is that you (vanesco) hardly ever scumhunt. You don't question people in a way that makes me think you're trying to figure out who is scum. You wasted a large amount of time being insanely fixated on the silly D1 votes. Right now you are being a complete turd and not caring about today's lynch which is the most important lynch of the game thus far. I ask you questions? You say you won't play along until koshi plays along. I ask you to show me why your lynch candidate (sno) is mafia, you won't play along and refer to your earlier posts. If you truly cared about finding scum then you'd be playing completely differently.

in other words I highly recommend anyone to take a good look at vanesco and consider him to be one of today's lynch candidates
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 02:47 GMT
#1396
vanesco where'd you run off to?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 04:29 GMT
#1397
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 04:37 GMT
#1399
On November 10 2013 13:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
man wtf is this game....I still want sylencia to tell me what his read of me is, and why the fuck he thinks its his job to berate town for lynching onegu when he did nothing to prevent it or present an alternative.


What do you think sylencia's berating of town says about his alignment and why? Annnnnnd do you have anything else you want to talk about?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 05:37 GMT
#1401
I agree about koshi/rayn/cephiro. That's in order of how confident I am. I would add you to the list except that I feel like I still need to hear a lot more from you before I decide.

That leaves sylencia, sn0, vanesco, umasi to chose from for all 3 mafia. Unfortunately none of them are around very much and I doubt that's gonna change any time soon. I still have a soft-spot for the snoman but he really needs to get in here asap.

fuck.... this game is a lurk fest.... I have close to the same amount of posts as all 4 of my main suspects have combined.

before this next bit I wanna say that I'm not trying to be rude or make the game less enjoyable for anyone no matter their alignment.... but the way this game is going we're likely to no-lynch until scum kill us all.

SYLENCIA

if you're gonna act above everyone else then you need to get the fuck in here and tell us plebs all the information we're missing that you'd have us believe you're so privy to

VANESCO/UMASI

both of you hardly ever post. you both have 3 or less pages of filter and that kind of activity is going to lose us the game if you're town. it's been hard for me to keep you guys separate in my mind all game. Right now I have the both of you characterized as that guy who gets along with most people but mostly gets ignored all game. More often then not this is why I lose games, because I ignore players like you guys and you end up being scum. Vanesco, this goes doubly for you for being so uncooperative with me earlier.

Sn0_Man

I want you to come and give us your own thoughts and stop sheeping me as your excuse to not play

CEPHIRO

If you're town then you're probably one of the scumteam's prime mislynch candidates so you need to do something about that. same sentiment goes for sn0man
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 07:13 GMT
#1403
hello scum
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 07:31 GMT
#1407
^^^ that's why I think he's town. it's very obvious how invested sn0 is into the game. (not much at all)

then you have van's and umi's half assed posts where they are acting like they care but it's sooooo obvious that they don't
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 08:09 GMT
#1408
##unvote
##vote umasi


I really think they're both scum, and umasi's last post is too much for me to let slide. Everything about it reads as meh idgaf lazy wishy washy uninterested uninvolved unemotional scumminess. With town being fucked as it is you'd expect a sense of urgency, frustration, desperation, or something. SOME kind of emotion or something that tells you that Umasi cares about the lynch. Today's lynch is the lynch that needs to be cared about the most and that's all he's got? Scum.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 08:31 GMT
#1411
On November 10 2013 17:20 Umasi wrote:
if I were pretending to give a shit, you would think I actually gave a shit.
far more pressing is the fact that you called me umi.


LOL

this post right here is an admission that its reasonable for me to believe that you don't give a shit. so are you a townie who is throwing away the game or are you scum?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 08:33 GMT
#1412
I mean hell Umais, it might be mylo so can you at least be bothered to write as much as a paragraph? Or explain your reads? Or your current thought process on anything? Or contribute to the scumhunt?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 09:21 GMT
#1413
ok. run away just like vanseco did.

really guys, if either of you are town, please know that I'm not trying to be an ass. i'm trying to get you to post enough so that myself and everyone else can be able to read your alignment correctly. so far both of you have strongly resisted my attempts to help you help town.

the reason I'm not picking on sn0man is because he is at least very straight forward about not wanting to help town. to me that's enough for me to read him and be confident in that read. what both of you guys did is show up for a brief time and kinda-sorta act like you care, but when I pressure you to actually contribute it's all excuses and silence. that looks FAR worse than sn0man's "lol sorry" types of posts.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 10:35 GMT
#1416
OK, thank you. ##unvote

Can everyone claim their D1 votes and say if they got elected for that cycle? And any roleblocks from n1/n2? I think we're still missing 1 blue claim from N1 (ceph claimed tracking syl with no result, umasi claimed rb rayn)
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#1417
oh yeah,

##Vote:Vanesco
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 10 2013 22:28 GMT
#1428
lol... this game is approaching GSL Open MM II level of lurkfest

why bh why?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 04:37 GMT
#1434
fuck i dont know what to say. i've typed out about 5 different posts but deleted all of them because there's no point. screw you guys for wasting a week of my life lol

+ Show Spoiler +
i'm not mad... just depressed. lol. i will keep playing because it'd be hilarious if town wins
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 04:42 GMT
#1435
oh WoS a special fuck you for that post-death post you made. it's better to just keep your mouth shut than posting something that's only going to make all the people in the game less motivated to play. you didn't post anything during the night phase so it was obvious that you'd given up. that's cool. just don't play against your win-con after you're already removed from the game alright?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 08:01 GMT
#1438
too add onto the point about van's posts feeling heavily constructed..

+ Show Spoiler +

On November 04 2013 15:50 Vanesco wrote:
Well I agree with the reasoning which is why I decided to vote. Also since many people commented on it, it seems like a fairly normal thing to do on TL mafia and since I plan on playing many more games, it would be foolish not to adapt. Overall, regardless whether I was voting for him or not, I still stand by Umasi being one of my scum reads.


On November 05 2013 16:02 Vanesco wrote:
thrawn:
[words words words words.....] Currently he is a scummy read to me. I would like to know your reasons why you unvoted rayn.
##Vote: thrawn2112


On November 04 2013 13:44 Vanesco wrote:
I don't get where this idea of my calling out Syl for not being firm is coming from. I just didn't like what he had to say and I decided that instead of people joking around I wanted to actually start the game, so I called him out. I didn't really take much of a stance because nothing in his response made me feel like he was scummy.

I'm having a really big scum read on Umasi currently.




I bolded the parts I'm about to talk about. IMO, saying "I'm having a really big scum read on X" is a very scummy way of saying "I really think X is scum." There are more instances of Van doing what I'm talking about than what I've quoted, if you look through his filter you see that he often takes care to qualify his reads as "scum reads" or "town reads." I don't claim to know what psychological reason would make a liar (in this game all scum players are essentially liars) talk in this specific way, but I do think that saying "I have a scum read on X" instead of "I think X is scum" is very unnatural. Another way of putting it is that it seems very constructed. Now OBVIOUSLY if someone says "I'm having a scum read on X" that's not any kind of huge scum tell. But when they talk like that the entire game, something's up. It makes me think Van's reads aren't actually his reads because of the strange way he refers to them.

Hmmm.. I'm not sure if I'm explaining this correctly. It's like two people are in front of me and I'm tasked to figure out which of them is happy and which isn't. Only one of them is happy but both of them want to convince me that they are the happy one. One of them is smiling. The other is saying "I am having a happy feeling" while maintaining a blank emotionless stare. In this game, Vanesco is the guy with the blank stare and empty words who is not happy (not town)
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 08:19 GMT
#1441
lol the hosts are more active than a few of yall
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 08:42 GMT
#1443
ok rayn i have a similar problem. first, i'm going off the assumption that hopeless and koshi are town. there's no way they aren't, they both just got done telling me they literally don't care about the game which they wouldn't have done if they were scum. there's also the election shit. specifically how koshi mentioned the 3 names asking if they were thought of as town, i jjust don't see him trying to pull off something tricky like that. so koshi and hopeless are town and it'd be idiotic to lynch either of them.

van is mafia and i don't doubt that at all. umasi... eh. i suggest you look at his post where he blue claimed and explained his witchcraft votes and actions, it all made sense and didn't look like something he just made up.

so who does that leave? syl, cephiro, sn0, and you lol. what really sucks is that i have a hard time believing that sn0 is scum, i have a hard time believing that you are scum, and i have a hard time believing that both cehp and syl are scum. I think the easiest of those to swallow is sn0man being scum but shit, i really just dont see it.

why dont you want to lynch vanesco?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 11 2013 08:44 GMT
#1444
if only syl ceph and sn0man would just play the game this would be so much fucking easier
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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