EPTPoofter voted you 3rd in the bandwagon on day1. Everybody randomly switches off of you to July because July did something quite scummy. His reasoning though is that your vote is "too easy" and he switches to July, even though I was pointing out that July's vote was being "too easy" for me already. He goes from one easy target to another... why? He was getting really close to an E00 lynch... he had 5 people I think? I don't get that...
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Balla24
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Poofter voted you 3rd in the bandwagon on day1. Everybody randomly switches off of you to July because July did something quite scummy. His reasoning though is that your vote is "too easy" and he switches to July, even though I was pointing out that July's vote was being "too easy" for me already. He goes from one easy target to another... why? He was getting really close to an E00 lynch... he had 5 people I think? I don't get that... | ||
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Balla24
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On November 01 2013 09:04 iamperfection wrote: final vote count July617 (9): StorrZerg, E00e (1): StorrZerg (0): Tehpoofter (0): OdinofPergo (3): These are the important votes from day 1 in my opinion. When I came back and started railing on Odin so hard there was a real chance to have Poofter lynched. I failed to realize nyxnyxnyx and cakeman were for that lynch after my post and their own analysis. E00e, nyx and July voted for and stayed on Odin which means very little. I think E00e is town, cakeman null and this says nothing about nyx at all. Gonna be digging through filters for a while before the day post. Balla you or I will probably be shot tonight so make sure to say what is you have to say. I'll recheck the reads you posted earlier and see if I come up with anything else to add to them. Also, I fucking hate how owb is playing this game. It doesn't feel scummy but so little attention is in itself scummy by not helping us as town. I still don't want him lynched yet but we have 60~~ hours till next lynch. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
I mean, I see where you're coming from with that point. Then poofter's vote is on E00e at some point so if he's caught it will draw attention away from himself. I think E00e's voting pattern is more significant. | ||
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Balla24
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It was hard to sell Odin as a lynch target, more so than July. | ||
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Balla24
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On November 05 2013 03:31 JonnyLaw wrote: I'm not sure Balla. Poofter was the fourth vote. You think he joined the bandwagon just to say he changed his mind and it was too easy? I mean, I see where you're coming from with that point. Then poofter's vote is on E00e at some point so if he's caught it will draw attention away from himself. I think E00e's voting pattern is more significant. I agree, that's why I'm railing into him about it ATM. He's not responding though. | ||
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Balla24
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Balla24
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On November 04 2013 13:14 Balla24 wrote: OWB: OWB -> Poofter interactions: - No real interaction with poofter. Didn't really like the day1 case on him (I didn't either). - Day 2, says he will read his filter after admitting he was tunnel visioning on vonthin, then nothing until soon before vote where he says everybody has already made up their mind on poofter and his vote wouldn't matter. Kind of annoying.... means I don't know where he stood before the vote. Voting patterns: D1: E00, decided between E00 and Storr. "Surprised" at july vote, where he did somewhat defend him before he went AFK. D2: Vonthin. Barely considered anyone else. Admitted he tunnel visioned. Poofter -> OWB interactions: -Doesn't mention OWB at ALL until end of D2 where he insta votes him on return to thread, says he doesn't really have reasoning to vote him. I don't buy that. There has to be a reason. Could be as simple as panic vote... could be as complicated as a buss. Who knows. Hard to read. - Says to look at Jonny/Cake/OWB when he flips town... eh... kind of wanna disregard this completely... When I look at my summary post here. This is definitely wayyyyyy more consistent with new scum players than E00's is. OWB soft-defends poofter on day1, tunnel visions on vonthin. Neither of them really mention each other besides that until D2, where owb almost completly ignores the case on poofter even after admitting he tunnel visioned on vonthin. | ||
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Balla24
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OWB does not mention odin at all in his filter besides paraphrasing what others said about him. Might be onto something here. | ||
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cakemanofdoom
336 Posts
Plus July had voted for him at that point. Poofter seemed to like attacking people who attacked him. So yeah, I still think Storr's scummy for all his earlier play and his later stuff doesn't help much. Trying to direct votes off poofter at the last minute is fishy to me, and stuff about the mod confirmation and "last minute" vote change could easily be scum gambits to look good after it was pretty clear that poofter was gonna get lynched. Vonthin for following Storr on that jump off poofter is also looking bad, though this one I might be able to chalk up to being convinced by Storr? Ehh still fairly heavily the suspicious side. Also, the fact that poofter was able to pop in at the very end to avoid a modkill makes me suspect that the mafia team might have planned from some point to get votes off him by having him stay quiet and make everyone else think that he'd die anyways. Are we holding off on talking about Storr, etc. in order to be openminded? I'm up for that too, but I'll make it clear that Storr and to a slightly lesser degree Vonthin are my top suspects. Will look into owb for now. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
At this point also, I think it would be beneficial to switch over to discussing your possible pairs instead of individual targets. We have 2 days worth of interactions. It becomes harder to analyze but also easier to come to conclusions. Especially when our main evidence on day3 is going to be interactions with poofter. For now, i'd say my top pairs are (in order of most suspicious to least suspicious): Owb/Odin Vonthin/Storr Vonthin/E00 | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
Storr put his vote on july early and left it there. He gained credibility early by posting advice on how to play the game. Then by leaving his vote there it makes people look at july every time there is a vote post. "oh yeah July's an option." I'm poring over storr's filter at the moment. It's large. | ||
onlywonderboy
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Balla24
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On November 05 2013 04:13 JonnyLaw wrote: Looking at the voting owb and storr are not both scum. Owb would have thrown his vote on July before leaving for the day. Simple as that. Storr put his vote on july early and left it there. He gained credibility early by posting advice on how to play the game. Then by leaving his vote there it makes people look at july every time there is a vote post. "oh yeah July's an option." I'm poring over storr's filter at the moment. It's large. Nah dude how can you say that... poofter was on E00 still... why would OWB switch to July when E00 still had some votes? On Storr i'm willing to agree but hesitantly. Only reason being his day2 vote thing with poofter. No way he would have bussed poofter like that (when he thought the day was ending). | ||
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Balla24
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On November 05 2013 04:14 onlywonderboy wrote: Fuck. I know I've been playing like shit this game. Not trying to make excuses, but this has been by far the busiest I've been during a mafia game. I tried to contribute by focusing on Von, but I put all my eggs in one basket and didn't move onto other reads when I realized people weren't interested in voting Von day 2. I know I've made a lot of weak promises this game, but I hope I can find time to make some posts and participate in the discussion so I can better help the town with day 3 and of course prove my innocence. Bullshit. Start now. | ||
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Balla24
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cakemanofdoom
336 Posts
From what I can tell, he makes a few inconclusive reads, and then goes on to tunnel Vonthin for the rest of the game. Making some extra random posts here and there. His cases on Vonthin aren't bad, but if Vonthin's town then it could just be finding a lurker, deciding he's an easy target, and sticking with it to stay consistent. On his own play alone... he looks scummy. I've said this before, but decided to revisit him since it's been a while, and now I realize he posted almost nothing since then. If there were more potential scum left I'd be very comfortable lynching him; still think he's a fairly reasonable lynch. I'll get to looking at pairs when I find time to do so. It'll probably be sometime after day 3 starts. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
Storr has some odd posts. I'll post a write up once i'm done so we can get some opinions for day 3. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
I didn't mean I was going to wait until day 3, poor choice of words. I'm working on reading filters right now. Gotta go to class but I can probably post during it. I just figured I needed to make my presense known since I was coming under fire. | ||
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