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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 04 2013 19:26 GMT
#1241
im back, balla still want me to do that filter on tehpoofter about E00e?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2013 19:26 GMT
#1242
Cakeman you might not survive till day 3 if you don't post your reads before night ends. You have 5.5 hrs. Throw out your feelings if nothing else. By putting it out there, night killing you should be less attractive since your reads are on the table.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 04 2013 19:33 GMT
#1243
On November 05 2013 04:26 StorrZerg wrote:
im back, balla still want me to do that filter on tehpoofter about E00e?


Nah. You're good, do whatt u want to dooooooo~
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2013 19:41 GMT
#1244
Storr pushes me constantly in night phase trying to gain traction. Mentions wanting to vig me. Is this to plant an idea in the town vig's head?

On November 01 2013 06:55 StorrZerg wrote:
Im really happy to see most of town pulling off the single votes, we still have 2 people, July and Odin who are both on the chopping block.

@Jonnylaw if i was a day vig i would shoot you right now. you are disruptive on the vote right now when we only have 2 hours to go. you can switch focus to me tomorrow, but right now its not happening so stop trying to screw with town.


That post really bothers me. This is right as I bring Odin to the forefront of discussion. It's not during the night phase arguments. I don't mind being questioned or accused but what is the motivation for saying this because I brought a new lynch target into the game? There was a lot of time and I thought I could form a good enough argument to avoid the E00e or July lynches on day 1.

He's been chasing weak players all game. Posts huge segments on Nyx and virtually pressures july into collapse. Then this is the start of the owb train.

On November 03 2013 05:08 StorrZerg wrote:
OWB i'd lynch him today.
Defends Nyx for bad reasons imo on day 1.

So maybe they are linked. Votes of him and Nyx kinda link up on E00e.




I'm halfway through the filter. I'm leaving this here for now while I read the rest. I don't want this to grow out of control in one post.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2013 19:42 GMT
#1245
ebwop the traction started in day phase and so did the vigi comment.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 04 2013 19:58 GMT
#1246
IIRC that post about dayviging you was in response to you backing off a bit from Odin and suggesting other targets instead of July:

On November 01 2013 06:45 JonnyLaw wrote:
As the deadline approaches I still don't see how july is the best lynch target. July's posting with confidence albeit it's not good.

If july flips town what have we learned? Absolutely nothing.

Even E00e is better because he condemned Odin so harshly.
Storr is even better at this point. He's still failing to contribute anything useful.

Fuck it, if we need 7th vote I'm doing it but I see no gain of information from July's shitposting.



Obzy and I were also a bit annoyed with that post, but looking back it was a good post. I would chalk that up to just being annoyed with the post and posting emotionally, i mean, dayviging isn't even in this game.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2013 20:09 GMT
#1247
disclaimerThis post looks long but there's not a lot of actual reading. Please look over it.

On November 03 2013 05:50 StorrZerg wrote:
@tehpoofter why did you go on july, when Cake had all ready cast his vote on july? If you think cake is scum did you think it was a bus? I know its hard to answer that question after the fact when it is clear that july was town. How come you didn't' express your concern more about cake while voting on july?



On November 03 2013 05:53 StorrZerg wrote:
After finishing tehpoofter filter, yet another person who has yet to contribute to today.

I actually don't' want to lynch him. I really liked the pressure he put on cake as well as his reasoning. my only problem, was he followed cake, to vote july. I feel if he was town he would have expressed more concern with following his #1 scum read onto the july vote. Honestly this is the biggest scum feeling i get from tehpoofter. If i take that out, i read him fairly town.



This post reads incredibly scummy. He's "pressuring" poofter while at the same time he's really trying to alleviate our fears about him. Oh, this is why he COULD be scum but I don't think so.

On November 03 2013 06:12 StorrZerg wrote:
For now i'd lynch nyx, owb


and i have far more people leaning town, who i wouldn't be interested in lynching today

obzy
balla
jonny
odin
Vonthin
tehpoofter

null on
cake
E00e

i don't think i missed anyone..



Like really? A few short posts before this he tried to say cake and I are a scum team and should be lynched. Why don't you follow up on this read when no one else latches onto it. Well, Obzy does on me but that's different. Nyx and owb are playing badly. I'll eat my shoe if they're a scum team together. All of these posts combine keep pressure away from poofter, vonthin and odin.

Check page 6 of storr's filter he's still riding cakeman. Cakeman was poofter's final vote as well.

On November 04 2013 05:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 04:43 Balla24 wrote:
I think both nyx and OWB are silly lynches... they're both similar to july (pre-july-defense) that I can't get a full read on them... their plays are erratic and I can't see a reasoning for them. They aren't pushing anyone hard.

If it ends up being one of them I would rather go with OWB as a feeling over any substance, but I think they are both bad lynches. Would much rather lynch Vonthin/Poofter (I put these two together since I see them on a similar level almost), Storr and finally Jonnylaw as my last lynch target.

Would appreciate it if everybody put their votes down though... there's only like 5 hours or so left and half of us haven't voted...



instead of saying silly lynches. Why don't you post a defense for them? or explain why they are town. On the note that you cant' get a full read on them, do you think you would be able to get a full read on them if they continue with how they are playing?



Why explain why those two are town? I don't know if they are. Why not look for someone who is not town?


On November 04 2013 07:06 StorrZerg wrote:
Why do inactives get a free pass in this game? How do inactives who are scummy not get lynched?


Im in general attacking inactive people...
I made a good case against nyx... its just kinda bonus he is being bad and inactive


He's trying so hard to lynch lurkers on day 2. Lynching a lurker day 2 is so risky when we've made a solid case for poofter already. You're fucking right it's a bonus. It worked for July why not for nyx?

On November 04 2013 08:02 StorrZerg wrote:
##Vote: onlywonderboy

as a placeholder at minimum



Storr wanted to lynch nyx then votes owb. IT WORKED FOR JULY WHY NOT FOR OWB AS WELL!

Storr then goes on to vote poofter and unvote him then revote him.

On November 04 2013 09:02 StorrZerg wrote:
well i look a little stupid now :/
Still willing to go on OWB



No shit you are.

This is at @owb

On November 04 2013 09:46 StorrZerg wrote:
What about myself? or Cake? (the only other 2 you could vote for that have votes on them)


No one wanted to vote for cakeman except poofter.

On November 04 2013 10:05 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 10:03 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Oh this is interesting.. I guess I'm going to have to re-evaluate my read on you Jonny.


tbh, i couldn't imagine this kind of push to bus a partner on day 2 with plenty of other options to lynch. Might be more clear now on why Vans was lynched. Setting up cake/jonny is possible (more so on making jonny clear today than cake imo)


DING DING DING Who went on myself and cakeman day 2? I'll answer that question. Storrzerg! It looked like I was going to implode with obzy and balla so it was easy pressure. He quickly backs off of questioning me at all when it's clear balla and I are having a good ole time scum hunting.




JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2013 20:14 GMT
#1248
Also don't forget the voting.

On November 04 2013 09:40 ObviousOne wrote:
JonnyLaw (0): Obzy, OdinOfPergo
onlywonderboy (1): Vonthin, Obzy, StorrZerg, E00e, StorrZerg, Vonthin, Tehpoofter
StorrZerg (1): nyxnyxnyx, cakemanofdoom
Vonthin (1): Balla24, onlywonderboy, OdinOfPergo
nyxnyxnyx (0): StorrZerg
Tehpoofter (7): JonnyLaw, Balla24, cakemanofdoom, OdinOfPergo, StorrZerg, Obzy, Vonthin, StorrZerg, Vonthin
Cakemanofdoom (1): Tehpoofter
Day 2 ends in at 01:00 GMT (+00:00).
If there are any errors please let us know.
[/b][/blue]


Looks like von and storr are trying to get away from poofter, but want to do it gently. As if we have another option. It's not great play though because I think Balla, cake obzy and I were clearly not going to move. Maybe if Odin had gone with them.

You want scum pairs?

storr/vonthin (most obvious, almost too obvious) storr has never mentioned von in a post. Like ever, not even once from what I read.

storr/nyx or owb or E00e those three are all neutral to me. They could be town and based on voting patterns I'd say are likely all poorly performing town players.

storr/odin I put this right behind the vonthin read.

Yeah there's a pattern in my scum team reads.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2013 20:16 GMT
#1249
Sorry for the triple post but I just noticed this interesting part of voting yesterday.

On November 04 2013 09:40 ObviousOne wrote:
onlywonderboy (1): Vonthin, Obzy, StorrZerg, E00e, StorrZerg, Vonthin, Tehpoofter
[/b]
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 04 2013 20:18 GMT
#1250
Hahahaha I love that post, Jonny... dunno why I find it funny but yeahhhhhhhhh

Alright. I feel comfortable heading into day3 now. Only people i'd still like to hear from is Obzy and Odin and obviously defenses from the accused.

Should be an interesting night.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2013 20:28 GMT
#1251
Going into tomorrow all I have to say is

Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 04 2013 20:31 GMT
#1252
rip in peace jonny
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 04 2013 20:44 GMT
#1253
I'm glad Johnny brought me up nyx in regards to our play being similar. For while we both have been kind of detached from the game, I think he has shown some scum tendencies as of late. I realize it's easy to attach to lurkers, but I really don't like his last couple posts. Especially the way he has list of town players and who are likely to be scum or town. He has actually put time into his read on Storr, but he says he is certain either Odin or I are scum without ever really giving an explanation why. Just something to consider, seems like he's trying to post to make up for his inactivity but there wasn't much substance in these posts. Hard to pair him up with anyone though, his filter has been pretty light with interactions with most players.


RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#1254
I disagree... I kind of wish he had kept it to himself since it clogs up the thread and he's not confirmed town BUT better than nothing.

His thought process is simple: process of elimination. He listed people he was willing to clear as town due to interactions with poofter, and then he decided that the rest of them are the last candidates for scum. How is that bad?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#1255
comment about the vig was a direct attack at you for being a dick in the thread. you for the most part have cleaned up your lang and insults. but not gonna lie, you had been pissing me off when i wrote that.

you can read into it how you wish, but that is why i posted that.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2013 20:53 GMT
#1256
Nyx was the first vote on poofter after I made my case. Had I stayed on him we might have secured that lynch day 1.

I'd leave nyx alone.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 04 2013 20:56 GMT
#1257
Sorry I haven't been able to post today and it doesn't look like I'm going to really be able to very busy at work and on lunch break atm. In general, I think that Balla/Jonny's posting has been completely on point and agree with the majority of what they have to say. I'm not particularly interested in focusing on Odin for tomorrow's lynch, I would much prefer Storr or owb. I'm also not really that interested in scum pairings, I'd much prefer to focus on just one person at a time - pairing with poofter sounds great, but drawing connections between unflipped players isn't something I really value a terrific amount. That said, obviously the people that could fit in many scumteams and are implicated by poofter's flip are the most likely to flip scum; aka Storr. *shrugs*
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 04 2013 20:56 GMT
#1258
nah johnny wont die
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 04 2013 20:57 GMT
#1259
and yeah I don't want to lynch nyx.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#1260
##vote: fasttraveltoday3
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