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On November 05 2013 08:00 StorrZerg wrote: but regardless there are still people who have yet to break 4 pages... There is plenty to talk about... E00e, OWB, nyxnyxnyx, cake , Vonthin, OBZY (i know he is the IC so don't even yell at me for putting him on this) Don't really care or want to yell at you for this, just figured I'd comment - I'm posting less and reading more because I don't think my opinions are very good, so I'm trying to read more carefully instead of writing. Doesn't apply to non-IC since most people have to consistently show their towniness, but I lucked out. Such is life. As an aside, the way that you were saying Jonny was a sure nk because it would set you up for lynch would be more believable if July and Van hadn't pointed out Jonny as likely scum, and he wasn't even remotely considered near the second half of day 2 due to the way he began playing. Out of the non-lurkers, you are certainly my preferred candidate to lynch atm; as an aside, saying things like "I don't think anybody [myself excepted] is confirmed town" - while true, technically, it doesn't help at all. If you are mafia, it would be quite bad if there was a reasonably accepted town circle that we could simply lynch outside of, trying to claim that everybody [again, excepting myself] could be the last scum - while true, technically - is just trying to upset the rhythm at the moment. It reminds me a lot of the way that Risen was playing in World Heavyweight Championship, refusing to hold consistent reads that could be directed back at him. Although I may be misremembering, as an observer, it seemed like after each lynch, a full reset of the game occurred [from his perspective]. The fact that you're deciding that a full reset should have had occurred (everybody is scummy) as we head into day 3 perplexes me. Even if you are town, and do happen to be correct, it's still a wrong mindset, in my opinion. | ||
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And when I said [myself excepted] - I was talking about me, not in your voice :x I don't think you ever implied I was scum. Last - "looking at the options, where the options are everyone" might as well just be a full reset. There are better lynches than Balla and Jonny at this point. Yes, if it was 2v1 lylo, it would be worth considering everybody. Right now, I don't really think it is. Probably gone until after work~ | ||
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##Vote: Onlywonderboy I haven't been impressed by him up to this point, some combination of him, Von, and Storr seems most likely, and I don't feel the need to save owb by pushing the other two. I will try to spend a few hours this evening/night digesting the past 20+ pages and giving my thoughts, but I've felt comfortable with the direction things have been going, so I've sat back for a little while now rather than attempting to muddy things up. I don't think my conclusions will be very different than what Balla and Jonny have/had already discussed, but - who knows ^_^;; (Hehe and now that I hit refresh to make sure I'm not missing anything, Balla is mentioning me. Heyo~) | ||
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After reading since the beginning of n1 to current over the past hour and a half or so, I really haven't gotten much of a scum read from Storr and Von. Like, they're scummy... because it makes sense for them to be scum? nyxnyxnyx is too yolo, I don't have much of a scumread on him. Balla has been driving town the entire time, him being scum, I won't even consider unless it was lylo. Cake seems very townie throughout, definitely don't want to kill him. Yeah I dunno. Things feel like they're going a little too smoothly, but frankly, I'd be very surprised to see owb flip town at this point - and if he properly flips scum, Storr and Von look quite a bit better on d2- and they didn't look particularly awful, to me. They're just the only reasonable "other scum". E00e, nyxnyxnyx, and Odin are... possibilities after owb flips scum, I think I'd prefer to look into the three of them rather than Storr/Von if that occurs. Lynching Storr after an owb townflip, though, clears up how we should feel about nyxnyxnyx, and many other people are implicated. As such blah blah bad logic, but I think owb is the best lynch today, however much Storr has been in question throughout. I'm sorta bad so /grains of salt and all and you can tease me after the game, but as of right now, Storr doesn't really seem as bad as I had thought, so I would quietly recommend not lynching him today. (If OWB flips town, we autolynch him, though.) | ||
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tl;dr , lynching OWB today looks like the best idea to me, after re-evaluating the activities of n1 through present. | ||
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In the absence of that, just not saying anything is fine, since you're not going to get out of this lynch. I feel it would be disappointing to yourself afterwards though - assuming a town flip, if you were able to look at your own play and truthfully say: "I was not of (much ^^) use this game, and was mislynched for it." if you're mafia pls disregard the above and die :> and if you're town and the above sounds sorta harsh, sorry :> | ||
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and haha, there have been some pretty awful town throws ^^ we're definitely in a comfortable position though~ | ||
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Like, I agree with your conclusion in the post above, Balla, but there will be a way that E00e could have a reason to fake-claim an RB that day. It may not be a good reason, and I don't think it happens, but it's certainly possible. Focusing on Odin and nyxnyxnyx next sounds like the best idea to me, because nyx has opted out of town discussion by tunneling Storr - Storr is likely town due to onlywonderboy interactions - so under this assumption, nyx is incorrect in his tunnel. He hasn't been considered heavily, because the manner of his tunneling wasn't something that I'd reasonably expect a scum player to do. Odin, then, is likely the last scum largely due to process of elimination, everybody else has favorable interactions with flipped players, or has demonstrated a solid, pro-town mindset (to a point we would have to be paranoid to really consider them for tomorrow), or is innocent child. ^^ I'd rather focus on those two rather than include E00e in those assumptions, unless we wanted to include Balla for the same reason - pure paranoia directed towards the roleblock targets. (Paranoia can wait until we see something like two night kills, or until we reach a 3 person LYLO. Then, all bets are off, and everything should be considered feasible lol.) hope that all makes sense  | ||
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If you are town though, yeah, please post as much as possible. ^_^; Same reasoning as was with OWB. On November 07 2013 03:52 Obzy wrote: Well, rather than not say anything, under the quite reasonable assumption that you are going to get lynched today basically no matter what, what are your opinions on the people that have pushed you? Have they pushed you in a townie or scummy way? If your goal is only to survive and nothing else, you are likely doomed no matter what. As far as general reads, admittedly, it's probably difficult to come up with anything original at this point. If you have any specific avenues to go down, though, if you flipped town, they'd likely be considered. You haven't really helped town much this game which is why you're going to be lynched today; honestly, I quite doubt that a burst of activity would save you. IMO, the only thing you can do to help town win is to actually sit down and invest some time playing the game; rather than trying to engage people in conversation, do some reading and writing. In the absence of that, just not saying anything is fine, since you're not going to get out of this lynch. I feel it would be disappointing to yourself afterwards though - assuming a town flip, if you were able to look at your own play and truthfully say: "I was not of (much ^^) use this game, and was mislynched for it." if you're mafia pls disregard the above and die :> and if you're town and the above sounds sorta harsh, sorry :> The above doesn't entirely apply, but i don't really wanna rephrase the intent behind it lol | ||
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Second bit is still relevant. | ||
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##Vote: OdinOfPergo | ||
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The name of the scum QT is pretty amazing.My QT with Mattchew is here, but we didn't really say a lot. ^^; | ||
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On November 08 2013 12:50 Umasi wrote: post game analysis by the amazing umasi (who hardly read the game and was totally wrong) obzy is lazy (or busy) balla is a baller johnny was kind of rude and then was less rude qed that's only your analysis because that's what i told you All in all, this game felt a lot like my first newbie (in retrospect) - very townie people were active with discussion, quieter people were open with reads and thought process, and scum didn't have control of the atmosphere, as Hapa already mentioned. Sorry for raging at you a bit Jonny ^^ I hate getting flamed, even though you were right about Odin lol :x It made me take a break for a few days, but in that time the game basically got solved so - all's well that ends well? :l Although I think all of us played acceptably - special shoutout to Balla; who was so active that I was sort of paranoid. If we had gotten to lylo and for some reason you and I had been left alive, I almost certainly would've snap voted you out of sheer "There's no way mafia lets him get to lylo. None." Very well played as a town leader imo ^^ | ||
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(Although if I'm simply mis-remembering, oh well) | ||
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