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cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 05:34 GMT
#823
Cool thing nyx. Can you give your personal reasoning for each of us?

Also, that "at least one of us is scum" part - do you think there's a relationship between us, or is it just that your reads are strong enough in your opinion that it's too unlikely for us to all be town?
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 05:46 GMT
#829
So why E00e? Why Storr and me (and then Odin) in particular out of the July voters?

What's your reasoning for thinking Jonny is town? And do you think there's merit to Vanesco's reasoning that Jonny and I are scum together?


Really wanna hear your reasoning for stuff. If you think you're bad, please at least try to be better. Posting simple opinions without much explaining just isn't very helpful.

cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 05:53 GMT
#830
I'm not scum because my role pm doesn't say I'm mafia. That's why I think I'm not scum, at least. I have a hard time analyzing my own posts since I view them all with the bias of knowing my alignment.

If there's anything in particular you find questionable about me please ask so I can talk relevantly and explain my thought processes.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 07:03 GMT
#835
Storr do you think nyx is a good lynch/mafia or not? I can't really tell from your posts, and I find it suspicious how you've been posting the most about him recently but you still haven't expressed a solid opinion on him. You're looking even scummier to me.


Side note: Can you rephrase your post about van's thoughts? I have no clue what you mean by "TBH not much, and kind of expected."
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 07:22 GMT
#838
Erm. I don't know what I did to clear myself. I'm not even sure what I did to gain your suspicion in the first place. (regain, actually. You've retracted a scumread on me before)

Explanations and reasoning? Please? I really wanna know how you think, and it would make everything you say much more convincing. Oh, and for the record, I don't think your reasoning on Storr was as bad as he made it sound with his dismissals. Points may not have been as relevant as I'd like, but they seem mostly true.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 08:16 GMT
#840
...i don't know what to say...


okay. moving on. Storr you still there? I'd like a clarification of your post on Van's thoughts.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 16:54 GMT
#850
Storr, who do you think is mafia? You have four pages of filter and not once do you call a single person scum. Closest you come is asking if a person is bad or scum.

Can you stop worrying about "good lynches" in terms of who's not making helpful posts to town? That's not that hard to notice, and we have more quiet-ish people than we have scum. I wanna find and lynch me a mafia. Right now you're high up on my suspect list, because all you're doing is pointing out how town should play or if someone's not playing good town. Sounds like blending in to me without making contributions that help us find scum.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 20:15 GMT
#875
Odin's situation is really annoying for me haha. I've liked his recent posts, his latest case had nice logic to it. He really isn't acting scummy. But he can only post in a few rare bursts every once in a while, and since he can't post and respond consistently it's pretty easy for him to hide if he actually is scum. I have a really hard time getting a decent read on him.


Storr, instead of asking for people to talk about, can you find people that you think are scum on your own? Show some initiative please.


I've already posted my thoughts on owb, and they haven't changed since he hasn't posted for quite a while. I can repeat them if someone's too lazy to look through my posts I guess.

Balla, why'd you express disappointment that no cop claimed? Cops shouldn't be claiming start of day 2.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 20:19 GMT
#877
Storr thoughts on poofter? vonthin asked you about him too.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 20:53 GMT
#890
Don't be so impatient please E00e. I want Storr to post some conclusions of his own, till then he's just seeming scummier and scummier to me.

I mean, he requested people to talk about, and then he gave an inconclusive post on one of them (owb) and flat out didn't post on the other till after I asked him. As I've been saying, feels like he's trying to post and seem productive without giving us any actually helpful opinions.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 21:02 GMT
#896
Storr - My question, same as before: who do you think is mafia?

I've already made my opinions. poofter is scum, owb is suspicious. Nothing has changed those opinions since those two have barely posted since the last time I posted my thoughts. You're probably scum, especially at this point.


Oh, and Balla scares me since in the off chance that he's mafia his position as just about everyone's townread lets him beat us fairly easily. I like that he's finally getting some pressure. But I don't really think asking about claiming roleblocked is a helpful way of doing so...
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 02 2013 21:06 GMT
#897
Well, I'm not liking how defensive Balla is getting at least - it's like he thinks any pressure on him is forbidden or something. Think I need to read through his massive filter more carefully at some point... not looking forward to that :/
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 03 2013 05:39 GMT
#941
If we're discussing lynches I think Storr's a good one for today. Unlike Obzy, I'm not seeing too much of a difference between his posting this day and day 1; sure, he has a higher number of posts it feels, but he's still not looking for scum as far as I can tell. His favorite lynch is nyx; in my eyes, this is mostly for being bad. Hes also mentioned being comfortable with lynching owb right before saying he likes one of owb's posts. I think I've repeated my suspicion of Storr enough at this point so I'll leave it at that.

My thoughts on poofter haven't changed, but no one else seems to be talking much about him for some reason? Won't talk too much about him here since I don't really have anything new at this point.


I'm just not sure about most of the quiet people: owb, nyx, E00e. They've all made some towny posts imo, even if said posts weren't that great. Out of them owb seemed to be trying the hardest to fit in without being too helpful, so he's my first choice if we lynch a quiet person. Nyx just feels too inexperienced so I can't really tell what he's trying to do, much less if he's trying to help mafia or town. I like that E00e is trying to reason and occasionally look for mafia (and his reasoning makes sense to me), but he just makes so few posts...

Refreshed and saw Balla's vote on Vonthin as I was typing. He looked not too bad to me overall, I'll go look at him more closely.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 03 2013 06:24 GMT
#944
Regarding Vonthin:

Most recently, he's pushed Storr. It happened after Balla's post suggesting that Storr is scum, but he's also been mentioning Storr as slightly scummy in his lists. I'm not sure about his questions. Storr's decision to keep his pressure vote on July the whole time didn't seem like a good question topic to me since Storr was inactive, and July's posts weren't even good once he started posting. Meanwhile, I agree with Vonthin in that I didn't like Storr's heavy aggression against nyx. On my part, it's because I think being aggressive is likely to make nyx not want to post and attract more aggression for bad posting. As Balla mentions, Vonthin points out logical errors like the stuff with lists. Eh, those things should be called out. Bad logic is bad.

I like Vonthin's reasoning about owb, I agree with them. I also think I might have posted similar things first. Sheepy maybe? Or backlash, since owb had been pointing Vonthin out multiple times. Well, I don't like how Vonthin voted right after I called him out on not originally posting a conclusive opinion on owb; if he was going to vote he shouldn't have needed to be called out.

That attack on Jonny is almost pure sheeping Van, I agree. And then not mentioning Van's suspicion of me also make me wonder. Though if he killed Van to help push a case on Jonny, I'm not sure why Vonthin would make a post like this:
On November 02 2013 10:42 Vonthin wrote:
Only thing preventing me from voting for him is if he was mafia why kill the person who was putting the most heat on him? Wouldn't that make him even more suspicious then he already was before Van died?

Hmm... upon thinking about it this could be to make himself not look as bad if someone points out the same thing.


Oh, and his latest list called E00e scum, and his next post about the guy called him 50/50. E00e made zero posts in between. He explained it as not having read E00e carefully at the time of the list, but inconsistencies are inconsistent and shouldn't be ignored just because there's an explanation.


Eh... on the whole he looks pretty meh. I don't think he looks much worse than other people without many posts. I suppose I'd be fine with killing him if we had to, but are you sure there aren't any better choices Balla?
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 03 2013 06:40 GMT
#949
Um, I'm not sure. Never been mafia before. Guess I'd push the scummiest looking towny I can find, which would be the same people I'm pushing now if I assume I was the only mafia.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 03 2013 06:51 GMT
#952
Well, considering the question asked me to think as if I was mafia, I think it's pretty normal to be using phrasing that implies myself mafia lol.

...is laughs the real reason you asked that question?
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 03 2013 17:11 GMT
#973
Yo Vonthin. Half of Vanesco's case on Jonny pretty much requires me to be scum. Do you think I'm scum? It's been pointed out before (by Balla I think), but why do you focus so much on Jonny and leave me alone? The longer this goes on the longer it seems like you're just going for the easier target in Jonny.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 03 2013 17:24 GMT
#974
Odin's most recent cases post:
I mostly like the points on Storr, though that stuff about Balla/roleblocking seems to be a misread from Odin. I also don't like how Storr seems to want a lynch on nyx more for being bad than for being mafia. The comment about me/Jonny defending ourselves would make sense as a way to get us to be more helpful, except I'm not sure that was really necessary? Seems to be normal Storr guiding the town to seem helpful rather than finding scum to be helpful.

Jonny doesn't actually seem to still be pushing Odin as scum, he was explaining his thoughts at previous vote. And Jonny's "hypocrisy" about rl stress seems really expected/normal from anyone. Jonny's anger/arguing with people actually looks decent to me, I can imagine a townie being frustrated like that and he generates discussion. I do agree that it's kinda funny how Jonny seems to be in a similar situation to Odin's day 1, but Jonny directly calls the attacks on him scum-lead.

Not many points on Vonthin, I think they're valid enough. I've posted my thoughts on Vonthin already so I won't go into much detail on that.



I need to reread Jonny's posts, I seem to gloss over angry talking so I haven't been examining his content that closely. And all that talk about roleblocking and claiming roleblocks just confused me so I hadn't read too closely into that earlier >.>

Oh, and I'll update my thoughts on poofter soonish since I think he's a solid lynch. He and Storr are good lynches today, decently likely to flip scum IMO.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 03 2013 17:40 GMT
#977
dammit nyx explain yourself when you say stuff like that
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 03 2013 17:44 GMT
#980
Wait.. that post came really fast after Storr's. So I'm guessing nyx is lurking more than he posts or something?
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