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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 18:06 GMT
#443
You're both looking too far into the Cakeman defense. He had a bad post on page one. It's easy to jump on it to get the thread moving forward.

After that he posted all right so why pursue it further? If july's mafia his play makes no sense.

You're right though, storr says he'll give a read on cakeman and never does. "Watch for people sheeping obzy, balla's call to action about posting quickly, we must lynch day 1, i luv bw and obzy wants me dead oh well." That's basically the extent of his posting and I'm not sold on it being scum play.

Odin coming in throwing out names and then voting cakeman who will not be lynched before disappearing for a day and half will never help us to win this game.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 18:18 GMT
#449
I'm so confused right now. I really thought other people would want to vote Odin. If he's town do you want someone on your team who makes reads and calls people scum when they have not read the thread at all? He claimed to have read it twice, then four times before admitting he was on page 12.

This lying, calling people out ignorantly and leaving on a cakeman vote when he cannot participate for an extended period of time is ludicrous play in my book.

He literally claimed to have read the thread four times before saying I'm on page 12 I'll get there. Jumping to his defense makes no sense either balla.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 18:19 GMT
#451
ebwop Rather than guessing with July or Storr I see this as a solid vote no matter what he flips because he will not help the town with that type of play.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 19:07 GMT
#462
I don't even understand at this point.

There's no case being made against E00e aside from him not helping the town actively. If he needs one more vote in order for us to lynch him, I'm vote for him. But if we're going to vote for someone who is not helping the town I'm still saying Odin is our best choice.

I'll be here until the voting deadline.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 19:09 GMT
#464
July can't no vote. No vote is counted as not voting in this game.

Well, I guess he can do that but it's the end of the road for him.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 19:17 GMT
#467
Balla, I don't know how you can say I'm playing differently than last game. People tried to have me lynched for pushing stormtemplar who responded well and it got him active in the game. After that I tried to get playerboy lynched for 3 days which could have won us that game but not enough people would listen and read what I said.

JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 19:18 GMT
#468
Oh shit I misread that line completely. I thought it said You may not abstain by voting no lynch.

I'm an idiot.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 19:51 GMT
#482
I really wanted to push poofter into posting and see what he said about my post on Van.

That's why I included him at the end of the post. Poofter was always the guy I wanted pressure but I thought doing it by pressuring van could be more effective. He did respond. Then I made my case on him, which I stand by. I do not think I could get poofter lynched day 1 and still do not.

When I read odin's filter this morning the amount of reads he posted without reading the thread and the lying made me believe that other people would easily jump on to lynch him. Similar to E00e I do not see him helping the town at all this game. Pressuring players makes them respond. Whether it reveals anything or not depends on the person.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 19:58 GMT
#485
Looking at the voting order and how it went down I'm liking the lynch on E00e less and less with OWB and nyx voting shortly before they had to leave. Aside from that, poofter voted E00e shortly before they did and I am not comfortable following this voting line. Though if E00e flips scum Odin isn't mafia most likely. That's about the extent of the information we can get from lynching him.

July's probably a better lynch than E00e because he's just posting cryptic one liners aside from comparing me to a scum player in the last game. I still say July's the third best candidate behind Odin and poofter.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 19:59 GMT
#487
ebwop As I said I'll vote otherwise if it gets someone lynched today so we can at least have some information going into the night phase.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 20:04 GMT
#491
Storr's early posts on how to play the game when not much else was happening into committing to posting more at a later date made me want to give him some time to fulfill this promise.

The other lurkers never gave such a commitment and OWB is hard to read with his activity level. He played that same way last time as VT and scum took advantage. He does post clear reads when he posts.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 20:08 GMT
#493
@July why do you not want to vote for odin?

I know the case on poofter and why him specifically if we're lynching lurkers? You're just picking him because it's been the longest since his last post?

@balla. Just as I said initially I am only pursuing it because I think we can make it work. E00e is becoming harder and harder to get through at this point. What do I need to to convince you this is the best lynch available today? I've stated my case multiple times and he's not pro-town even if he flips town based on the way he's playing this game.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 20:12 GMT
#496
July (2)
E00e(3)
Odin(3)
JonnyLaw(1)
Storrzerg(1)

I think.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 20:16 GMT
#499
@storr You're still saying much aside from analyzing cake who was kinda outta the spotlight already. Asking for votecount is not really helping to get anyone lynched for a proper reason today.

We need more from you.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 20:18 GMT
#501
@cakemanofdoom July's posting is so erratic that voting him just doesn't feel right. His play isn't helping the town either but I just don't feel comfortable claiming him scum rather than useless town. Odin spammed and flung shit at people making the voting waters murky. Why do you not want to vote for odin?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 20:20 GMT
#502
You have cakeman listed twice. Once on Odin and once on July. I think the July vote is where he sits at the moment.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 20:52 GMT
#517
@balla I agree that's very active when active. But he's active like a meth head is active. His posts are jumbled, contradictory and uninformed. How does this help us push forward. At the very least we're lynching a liability.

@storr I said that because I've been saying to give you time to help us. I'm not salty about you asking for the votecount I just want some meat in your posts you know? As is, you could be lurking as casual scum happy to see me pushing odin hard. You've said you'd go over the filters during LoL queues. That's 10 minutes or so between games.

What's your opinion on Odin? What was your opinion on July? You said you were reading that filter and it's very short.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 21:09 GMT
#525
@obzy I know what you're saying and I've considered it quite a lot. I've made my points on Odin confusing the thread and won't elaborate.

Which lurker would you prefer to lynch in favor of Odin? Nyx? Owb? July? Storr? I've gone over the cases in my head a few times and reread their posting. OWB and Nyx are just difficult to read. July's posting doesn't give me a scummy vibe. I'm neutral there. Storr...I don't know at this point. I like the Odin lynch.

Quick question for everyone. If you had control of seven votes who would you lynch today and why?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 21:45 GMT
#534
As the deadline approaches I still don't see how july is the best lynch target. July's posting with confidence albeit it's not good.

If july flips town what have we learned? Absolutely nothing.

Even E00e is better because he condemned Odin so harshly.
Storr is even better at this point. He's still failing to contribute anything useful.

Fuck it, if we need 7th vote I'm doing it but I see no gain of information from July's shitposting.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 31 2013 21:56 GMT
#540
He's played mafia before. Do you really think he's that bad at this game to play like this as scum? Maybe he is, I don't know.

Coming and derailing the thread is much scummier. Odin blatantly lied multiple times. I cannot stand that behavior and it seems indicative of scummy play. "Yo trust me, I read the thread 4 times but I'm still on page 12." Like I said as I reread the filters I'd be happier with a lot of other players at this point.
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