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On November 01 2013 02:51 Balla24 wrote:
Also, literally everybody has been jumping on July, whereas only me and Obzy have jumped on Storr. Everybody on July makes me very weary.
It makes me weary that people are bandwagoning all over the place.
cake man you switched your vote from Tehpoofter to me and your reasoning is what exactly ? "I understand the suspicion on Jonny. But I don't think he can/should be lynched today." < - Why shouldn't he be lynched today you aren't supporting your vote on me you're writing nonsense and hoping that passes as an explanation.
In your last line you write "I'm feeling that July's the one most people have their eyes on. Aside from maybe E00e, who I think has posted better than July" <- What does "posted better" really mean? E00e could be mafia and the only reason you're not suspicious of him is because he post's better?
Voting for someone because of the frequency of there posts or the lack of content in there posts isn't a good reason. You're all looking at my post's trying to make yourselves believe i'm scum when in reality i'm not .
And finally a last bit of your post where you state " Most people seem to be suspecting July, E00e, or Storr. I'm not too sure about opinions on other people, but let's pick from one of those, unless a lot of people come out and claim vote desires that I haven't picked up on. " << You're siding with a majority when you should be looking at every player as scum , why did they vote this way instead of that, what was the reasoning behind it , and why should we believe they are/aren't mafia . These are the questions i think we should be asking .
##Vote: No Vote
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On November 01 2013 02:59 cakemanofdoom wrote:
I haven't been jumping on Storr as much because it seems more people have jumped on July, and there's some defense of Storr. I think a July lynch would be easier. I'm more than willing to switch to Storr if it looks more likely to succeed than July.
Was defending me an easy defense? Jonny was the first to defend me, and I think mafia would have preferred to leave suspicion on me.
Who defended Storr? I must have missed this.
And wait, what? Im re reading the beginning exchanges. Jonny was the first to defend you? He was calling you scum.
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You're both looking too far into the Cakeman defense. He had a bad post on page one. It's easy to jump on it to get the thread moving forward.
After that he posted all right so why pursue it further? If july's mafia his play makes no sense.
You're right though, storr says he'll give a read on cakeman and never does. "Watch for people sheeping obzy, balla's call to action about posting quickly, we must lynch day 1, i luv bw and obzy wants me dead oh well." That's basically the extent of his posting and I'm not sold on it being scum play.
Odin coming in throwing out names and then voting cakeman who will not be lynched before disappearing for a day and half will never help us to win this game.
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On November 01 2013 03:04 July617 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 02:51 Balla24 wrote:
Also, literally everybody has been jumping on July, whereas only me and Obzy have jumped on Storr. Everybody on July makes me very weary. It makes me weary that people are bandwagoning all over the place. cake man you switched your vote from Tehpoofter to me and your reasoning is what exactly ? "I understand the suspicion on Jonny. But I don't think he can/should be lynched today." < - Why shouldn't he be lynched today you aren't supporting your vote on me you're writing nonsense and hoping that passes as an explanation. In your last line you write "I'm feeling that July's the one most people have their eyes on. Aside from maybe E00e, who I think has posted better than July" <- What does "posted better" really mean? E00e could be mafia and the only reason you're not suspicious of him is because he post's better? Voting for someone because of the frequency of there posts or the lack of content in there posts isn't a good reason. You're all looking at my post's trying to make yourselves believe i'm scum when in reality i'm not . And finally a last bit of your post where you state " Most people seem to be suspecting July, E00e, or Storr. I'm not too sure about opinions on other people, but let's pick from one of those, unless a lot of people come out and claim vote desires that I haven't picked up on. " << You're siding with a majority when you should be looking at every player as scum , why did they vote this way instead of that, what was the reasoning behind it , and why should we believe they are/aren't mafia . These are the questions i think we should be asking .
##Vote: No Vote
You realize we need 7 votes on anybody to kill them. We literally will eventually have to bandwagon on someone. That's why we have to narrow down the suspects to people that will possibly get lynched, instead of having everybody open for discussion.
Why vote for a No vote?
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On November 01 2013 03:07 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 03:04 July617 wrote:On November 01 2013 02:51 Balla24 wrote:
Also, literally everybody has been jumping on July, whereas only me and Obzy have jumped on Storr. Everybody on July makes me very weary. It makes me weary that people are bandwagoning all over the place. cake man you switched your vote from Tehpoofter to me and your reasoning is what exactly ? "I understand the suspicion on Jonny. But I don't think he can/should be lynched today." < - Why shouldn't he be lynched today you aren't supporting your vote on me you're writing nonsense and hoping that passes as an explanation. In your last line you write "I'm feeling that July's the one most people have their eyes on. Aside from maybe E00e, who I think has posted better than July" <- What does "posted better" really mean? E00e could be mafia and the only reason you're not suspicious of him is because he post's better? Voting for someone because of the frequency of there posts or the lack of content in there posts isn't a good reason. You're all looking at my post's trying to make yourselves believe i'm scum when in reality i'm not . And finally a last bit of your post where you state " Most people seem to be suspecting July, E00e, or Storr. I'm not too sure about opinions on other people, but let's pick from one of those, unless a lot of people come out and claim vote desires that I haven't picked up on. " << You're siding with a majority when you should be looking at every player as scum , why did they vote this way instead of that, what was the reasoning behind it , and why should we believe they are/aren't mafia . These are the questions i think we should be asking .
##Vote: No Vote You realize we need 7 votes on anybody to kill them. We literally will eventually have to bandwagon on someone. That's why we have to narrow down the suspects to people that will possibly get lynched, instead of having everybody open for discussion. Why vote for a No vote?
Voting for a no vote because day one isn't getting us anything solid at least in my opinion . let someone die and then we can see who mafia is targeting .
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July, what do you think about Jonnylaw?
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#july one of the worst things we can do is no vote
we will get information out of a vote regardless if they flip town or mafia or SK
we will learn something and that will help us this game.
the way i see no vote isn't necessarily "mafia move" but it for sure is a horrible town play
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Agreed with that StorrZerg. Can you please make yourself useful though?
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I'm so confused right now. I really thought other people would want to vote Odin. If he's town do you want someone on your team who makes reads and calls people scum when they have not read the thread at all? He claimed to have read it twice, then four times before admitting he was on page 12.
This lying, calling people out ignorantly and leaving on a cakeman vote when he cannot participate for an extended period of time is ludicrous play in my book.
He literally claimed to have read the thread four times before saying I'm on page 12 I'll get there. Jumping to his defense makes no sense either balla.
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On November 01 2013 03:09 Balla24 wrote:
July, what do you think about Jonnylaw?
He's acting allot like Sagaz did in our last game and Sagaz turned out to be mafia, he's really agro for no apparent reason, attacking nyx mostly in his filter on page 2 and then grasping for straws on page 3 . Suspicious yes, either way whoever dies tonight we'll see what they flip whether they be town / mafia / or blue, I honestly feel like we're going in circles here, I'd like to just lynch and be done with it and see what happens day 2. I don't think we're going to get anything more from today, not unless someone screws up and slips .
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ebwop Rather than guessing with July or Storr I see this as a solid vote no matter what he flips because he will not help the town with that type of play.
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I think I've narrowed my vote down to several options
e00: I'm especially leaning towards this vote since I know I'm going to be afk. He's been under suspicion for a large part of the game and hasn't done anything to really make me feel he is actually town. I feel this is a safe vote since a lot of other people feel he is scummy, and come vote time if he doesn't make a defense I can see him getting lynched
Storr: A little more of a leap of faith here since he doesn't have a lot votes at the moment, but I don't think he's a bad target. Promised to talk about cake and then just sort of disappeared for while. I know I let him fly under my radar a little bit, but looking back at his filter it's pretty heavy with discussion about the meta and not actual play. Like I said before, i was guilty of this as well, but I tried to change up my play. I don't see that from him.
Those are the main two I'm comfortable with, but I'm gonna reread some more and see what other people have to say. Still got an hour or so before I have to leave.
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Oh I see Storr is active now, interested to read what he has to say about cake and any of the other players in the game.
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On November 01 2013 03:16 Balla24 wrote:
Agreed with that StorrZerg. Can you please make yourself useful though?
Wow, sry about this... missed the post at the bottom of the last page.
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On November 01 2013 03:08 July617 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 03:07 Balla24 wrote:On November 01 2013 03:04 July617 wrote:On November 01 2013 02:51 Balla24 wrote:
Also, literally everybody has been jumping on July, whereas only me and Obzy have jumped on Storr. Everybody on July makes me very weary. It makes me weary that people are bandwagoning all over the place. cake man you switched your vote from Tehpoofter to me and your reasoning is what exactly ? "I understand the suspicion on Jonny. But I don't think he can/should be lynched today." < - Why shouldn't he be lynched today you aren't supporting your vote on me you're writing nonsense and hoping that passes as an explanation. In your last line you write "I'm feeling that July's the one most people have their eyes on. Aside from maybe E00e, who I think has posted better than July" <- What does "posted better" really mean? E00e could be mafia and the only reason you're not suspicious of him is because he post's better? Voting for someone because of the frequency of there posts or the lack of content in there posts isn't a good reason. You're all looking at my post's trying to make yourselves believe i'm scum when in reality i'm not . And finally a last bit of your post where you state " Most people seem to be suspecting July, E00e, or Storr. I'm not too sure about opinions on other people, but let's pick from one of those, unless a lot of people come out and claim vote desires that I haven't picked up on. " << You're siding with a majority when you should be looking at every player as scum , why did they vote this way instead of that, what was the reasoning behind it , and why should we believe they are/aren't mafia . These are the questions i think we should be asking .
##Vote: No Vote You realize we need 7 votes on anybody to kill them. We literally will eventually have to bandwagon on someone. That's why we have to narrow down the suspects to people that will possibly get lynched, instead of having everybody open for discussion. Why vote for a No vote? Voting for a no vote because day one isn't getting us anything solid at least in my opinion . let someone die and then we can see who mafia is targeting .
No lynching is bad today IMO because I'm confirmed town due to my role, so if we don't lynch anyone, scum can just kill me and it doesn't reveal any real information, since I was going to have to be killed eventually. I could understand that viewpoint if you wanted to wait for blues (although I'd disagree with it emphatically), but waiting just to see what mafia does is inherently flawed. Similarly, I'd like to see you forced to put your vote on somebody and take a stance anyways, since you haven't done much of value, yet.
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@obzy i wouldn't be worried about dieing, but you are absolutely right that we need to get a lynch today.
reading filters in between lol games, july is up next.
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##Vote: E00e
Just throwing this out here for now. I think it's my safest vote since I know I'm leaving soon. Storr is at least around so he might make a defense. Still around a rereading though so nothing is final until I leave for work.
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majority lynch would make lynching someone even harder come day 2. should just try and get lucky day 1. it's about bed time for me so i'm going back to my original vote for E00e just because it seems like the vote most likely to go through and i'm okay with that.
##Vote: E00e
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July:
Jonny's early defense on me looks towny to me, because I think scum would try to leave suspicion on me as long as possible. Aside from that, I don't see enough suspicion of him so I think votes on him would be wasted.
I suspect you because your posts haven't been helpful, and I don't like how you made useless posts talking how you don't want to post useless spam. And I don't like how you refused to help us consolidate on a vote.
An yes, I think we should lynch today. I want a flip on someone, even better if we can hit scum. I have suspicions on a few people, and I think lynching any of them is better than not lynching. So, I wanna vote whichever of my suspects is getting the most votes so that we don't fail to lynch.
The Storr defended comment was an impression I got, probably from posts like:
On October 31 2013 15:45 Vanesco wrote:
So I am now back and should be for a bit over an hour until I go to bed.
Currently I am still waiting on E00e. I think we all agreed to lynch lurkers and he has been called out three times. First by July, no response. Then later by me, no response. Suddenly I vote him, and guess what a response. What has he done since, nada. All of the "reads" he has said he have either been: "i agree with", "i disagree with", or questions. At least on storr there is some activity by him when town wants him to talk, but E00e was called out and has gone back into hiding. I would rather lynch E00e at this point before lynching storr.
where van, who I think is pretty trusted, would rather lynch someone besides storr.
I'll leave my vote on July till it seems like someone else is close to being lynched (and I don't have a problem with the lynch). It seemed to me like no one thought well of July, and just haven't voted yet.
Balla: Why do you have a town read on July? The thought process behind the no lynch?
Also, Jonny's van case mentioned that I was looking more noob town. Every earlier post about me was calling me scum or questioning me, as far as I can tell.
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And whoa, votes for E00e. I'm a bit worried since I don't trust owb or nyx right now, but E00e's still lurky and not posting except when directly called out does look bad enough that I'm okay with lynching him. Guess I'll be switch to vote him soon, unless some other wagon gets going?
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