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Koshi
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October 17 2013 10:17 GMT
#31
/in
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 21:13 GMT
#236
rofl. Quite funny video.
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 21:15 GMT
#238
It's fake cuz you used the colon.
We bros.
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 21:16 GMT
#241
dat fake vote with capital "R".
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 21:22 GMT
#248
On October 28 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
So... I'm going to need a bunch of you to ##twerk for me at some point. :/

Yeah all do ##update Koshi plz
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 21:23 GMT
#249
I am not joking!
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 21:26 GMT
#252
On October 28 2013 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi what does that do?

magic!
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 21:31 GMT
#256
On October 28 2013 06:28 HotCottonCandy wrote:
alright ill bite. might as well get this game going

##update Koshi

did i do it right?

Nope. You need to capitalize the "u"

##Update Koshi
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 27 2013 21:46 GMT
#270
... wtf
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 21:49 GMT
#273
I am feeling rayn and marv scumteam.
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#276
Ok. I am pro using all the powers. Town has probably more powers so let's go for it?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 21:57 GMT
#281
[UoN]Sentinel How many times can you use your ability?
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Koshi
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Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 22:04 GMT
#284
On October 28 2013 07:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:57 Koshi wrote:
[UoN]Sentinel How many times can you use your ability?


Just the once.

In the entire game?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 22:04 GMT
#285
On October 28 2013 07:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Yeah sure why not. I do like to twerk, and I'd rather cater to marv than koshi, who seems to have disappeared.

wtf is this reasoning?


KOSHI DIDN'T ANSWER WHAT UPDATE DOES.

marv at least left it ambiguously pleasant.

I told rayn it does magic.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 22:06 GMT
#288
On October 28 2013 07:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 07:04 Koshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 07:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:57 Koshi wrote:
[UoN]Sentinel How many times can you use your ability?


Just the once.

In the entire game?


Oui. Making it more than once would be tedious and overpowered.

I am feeling nuke

##14
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 22:07 GMT
#289
Are you allowed to count down? Or only the 15?
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 22:08 GMT
#292
On October 28 2013 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's do this Sentinel thing and see what it does. :D
#13

##12

Sentinel would you like multiple people to do it or can rayn and I power you up?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 22:09 GMT
#294
Also ##Update Koshi is a thing guys!
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 22:09 GMT
#296
all the cool kids do it.
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 22:11 GMT
#299
##10

If I am going to die, I will be sad.
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 22:13 GMT
#303
##8

Hmmm. Like. You sure you want this to happen Sentinel?
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 22:13 GMT
#305
##6
Hey, ninja marv
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 22:14 GMT
#309
On October 28 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are going upwards. Scum?

##4
rayn, do you feel this is a scummy power?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 22:14 GMT
#310
On October 28 2013 07:14 marvellosity wrote:
##4

##3 Damn ninja
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 22:15 GMT
#314
On October 28 2013 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
I'm literally only doing it to make Koshi look dumb

I don't need your help for that #TYVM
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 22:15 GMT
#315
On October 28 2013 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##2
I didn't have to be #1!!!

##1
YAY I win
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 22:16 GMT
#317
Sentinel discussing in scum QT what he will do.
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 22:20 GMT
#319
#disappointed
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 22:21 GMT
#321
Can you already spoil what it will do?
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Koshi
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October 27 2013 22:57 GMT
#331
imo he isn't the Candyman.

HotCottonCandy sounds more like a pornname.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 27 2013 23:30 GMT
#349
Pandain has a point on rayn though. He uses his power and then instantly goes "w00ps, shouldn't have done that"

I don't like it.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 00:10 GMT
#362
On October 28 2013 09:09 Seuss wrote:
Of course the game starts while I'm out having engagement photos taken, and I'm sitting here typing when I'm supposed to be paying attention to my future mother-in-law as we do wedding planning.

Wave is obviously scum. I know this because he's Wave and he's terrible at League of Legends. We should therefore lynch Wave.

+ Show Spoiler +
<3 Wave

So what exactly are you saying?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 28 2013 00:24 GMT
#365
like everyone everyone?
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Koshi
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October 28 2013 00:33 GMT
#367
Then I conclude you are 3p. Please play with town first 2 cycles. Scum always wins...

##Refudiate Oatsmaster
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Koshi
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October 28 2013 00:56 GMT
#371
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Refudiate

I guess it is this.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 01:01 GMT
#372
I especially like point 2.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 28 2013 01:11 GMT
#376
On October 28 2013 10:03 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 09:10 Koshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 09:09 Seuss wrote:
Of course the game starts while I'm out having engagement photos taken, and I'm sitting here typing when I'm supposed to be paying attention to my future mother-in-law as we do wedding planning.

Wave is obviously scum. I know this because he's Wave and he's terrible at League of Legends. We should therefore lynch Wave.

+ Show Spoiler +
<3 Wave

So what exactly are you saying?


That was my way of saying, "Holy crap the game has started without me. I'm alive, but busy at the moment. HI WAVE!"

Seriously I'm still in the middle of a wedding planning meeting with the future in-laws and if anyone asks me why I'm typing super fast I won't have a decent excuse.

Ok cool. Make sure that your irl responsibilities aren't the dominating factor in each of your posts.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 08:17 GMT
#526
On October 28 2013 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok koshi called me 3p for having a charge role thing. I dont know what it means, but generally town dont call people 3p day 1 because there is no way to know. Scum do know though.

I called you 3p because you needed everybody to power you up. I understand you might have been joking or overstating it. I wasn't 100% serious.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 09:19 GMT
#529
I read the thread. I don't like Promethelax.
On October 28 2013 13:11 Promethelax wrote:
Oats: important!!! Who said they thought you were third p because anyone can power you up?

After Oats say it was me:
On October 28 2013 14:00 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, point I wanted to make about koshi saying oats was 3p for being able to be levelled up by non town:
Koshi is scum.

Did you go back and read what I said Promethelax? We were joking around a bit, or at least I was, and because he said that everybody had to charge him up I said he was 3p. Because it would make sense that 3p would have a wincon/power that needed a vote from everybody. Which is a hard thing to do unless it is more endgame, or get something really strong based on the % of people that vote for him.

I am obviously not saying Oats is 3p from my conversation with him. But that was my thought process, sick powers when everybody votes for him sounds 3p-ish.

There is nothing scummy about this:
On October 28 2013 09:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok read my role Pm.
I get powers if people type ##Refudiate Oatsmaster
Sick sick powers. And I dont have limitations like marv, everyone should type that.
EVERYONE.
Pandain looks way too serious to be scum, dunno why exactly he thinks rayn is scum.

On October 28 2013 09:24 Koshi wrote:
like everyone everyone?

On October 28 2013 09:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
like everyone everyone.

On October 28 2013 09:33 Koshi wrote:
Then I conclude you are 3p. Please play with town first 2 cycles. Scum always wins...

##Refudiate Oatsmaster

Now I wonder why you never went back to read this again. Where did I say that Oats can be levelled up by non-town? That doesn't even make sense? What does that even mean? Are you talking about a scum power that only scum can power up, and I just scumslipped about it?

I said because Oats needed everybody to vote for him that he was 3p. It was a joke. And a bit based on my own role pm that doesn't require everybody to vote for me.

Again, I realize Oats might have been overstating it, or joking around. But so was I.

Your interpretation of that conversation is bullshit though.

Why not first ask me what I was doing there? Why not reread the conversation between us? Why ask "who was it?" and then conclude "Ok that guy is scum". Why I am scum with Pandain? If it is not connection based. Am I scum solely for the above? If not why am I scum?

I am around the next 15 hours. Please let me know why you keep repeating I am scum.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 09:23 GMT
#531
On October 28 2013 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is there any reason your filter is a pile of nothing?

You surprised about that? I was here for the first 4 hours of the game. I gave Sentinel power, I gave Oats power, asked for power myself. I had a scumvibe on you for the blue fail, or at least pretending it was a mistake. Then I just read posts. Dnu what you expect.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 09:26 GMT
#534
On October 28 2013 18:23 Promethelax wrote:
You are scum for the above, my understanding of what was said was that you were saying that because everyone (town and scum) powered up oats he was not town but I know from my own role pm that anyone can power up a town power role so that was a mistake scum would make.

Your explanation of it is reasonable though.

You ah, actually didn't say what you dislike about me besides that I interpreted what you said in a way you apparently didn't mean it. You are attacking me to follow thread sentiment, not because you believe it. This post does not dissuade me from thinking you are scum, it just tells me I had the wrong reason for the right conclusion,

rofl I am not attacking you because thread sentiment. I attack you because you attack me based on wrong assumptions.

I did not say he was not town for being able to be powered up by any alignement. I said he was 3p for needing EVERYBODY to vote for him.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 09:41 GMT
#540
On October 28 2013 18:28 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 18:26 Koshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 18:23 Promethelax wrote:
You are scum for the above, my understanding of what was said was that you were saying that because everyone (town and scum) powered up oats he was not town but I know from my own role pm that anyone can power up a town power role so that was a mistake scum would make.

Your explanation of it is reasonable though.

You ah, actually didn't say what you dislike about me besides that I interpreted what you said in a way you apparently didn't mean it. You are attacking me to follow thread sentiment, not because you believe it. This post does not dissuade me from thinking you are scum, it just tells me I had the wrong reason for the right conclusion,

rofl I am not attacking you because thread sentiment. I attack you because you attack me based on wrong assumptions.

I did not say he was not town for being able to be powered up by any alignement. I said he was 3p for needing EVERYBODY to vote for him.


Why 'Rofl' do you think it's funny that I caught you by totally misunderstanding you?

No it's rofl because you keep saying I am scum for silly reasons. I am now scum for saying I don't like you? My dislike is 100% justified because you said 2-4 times I am scum for reasons that aren't reasons.

I also made that post to clear my own name and it was clearly not a case on you. However, you are reading it as a case against you because I asked some questions to you? Which you ofcourse completely ignore. Nice to see you are 100% certain I am scum and you are not even bothering explaining yourself to me. Which you could do after yelling I am scum for "misunderstanding" my post.

And it is impossible you misunderstood that conversation between me and Oats. You didn't read that conversation imo, you just glossed over it. Thought it was something while it wasn't and then pushed that read without rechecking it because you are bad.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 09:44 GMT
#543
Can somebody else confirm that when they read my conversation with Oats they concluded that I said Oats was 3p because either alignement can vote him? Something strange like that?

Like what does that mean? Obviously it doesn't matter if it is town/scum that powers up my abilty or anybodys. But it looks like Promethelax is hinting that there is a scum powerrole that only scum can power up and that I suggested that. Something like that. It's ridiculous.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 28 2013 09:46 GMT
#544
On October 28 2013 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you think Prome is scum or not?

rayn, tell me if I am scum for the reason Prom said out that conversation with Oats. Why am I scum for saying he is 3p because both alignments can power him up? As if town can only power themselves up by town votes? Like how the fuck does town know that?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 10:13 GMT
#552
On October 28 2013 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 18:46 Koshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi do you think Prome is scum or not?

rayn, tell me if I am scum for the reason Prom said out that conversation with Oats. Why am I scum for saying he is 3p because both alignments can power him up? As if town can only power themselves up by town votes? Like how the fuck does town know that?

I do not think you are scum because of the conversation. But do you think Prome is scum or not?

Mehh, I am probably not going to vote him.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 10:16 GMT
#556
On October 28 2013 19:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I get more powerful the more votes I get. And it doesnt matter if they are from scum or town. Does that answer your question Koshi?

I never asked that question...
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 10:29 GMT
#560
Did the delegation power from rayn did something already? Or did that get cancelled / was fake?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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October 28 2013 10:46 GMT
#562
Well I wasn't too happy about rayn and his woopsie stuff but somewhere he made a comment "You can't possible have a read on Pandain yet because I haven't got a read on Pandain yet". That was pretty towny in my book. So we can put rayn on likely town. So let's sheep his reads now.
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Koshi
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October 28 2013 11:23 GMT
#571
On October 28 2013 20:20 marvellosity wrote:
I find this incredibly odd:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 18:19 Koshi wrote:
I read the thread. I don't like Promethelax.

Who states that they've now read the thread? Especially given this:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 17:17 Koshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok koshi called me 3p for having a charge role thing. I dont know what it means, but generally town dont call people 3p day 1 because there is no way to know. Scum do know though.

I called you 3p because you needed everybody to power you up. I understand you might have been joking or overstating it. I wasn't 100% serious.

Content unimportant, it's more the fact it was posted an hour prior to the first post I quoted. And within this post, he is responding to something a few pages back, so he'd clearly already been reading the thread?

I'm not actually sure what it means, but it stuck out to me like a sore thumb. Why announce that you read the thread like this? :/

Dnu, I was reading the thread and swa prom call me scummy for it. Then I saw Oats say that so I replied to that already. Then I continued reading the thread and saw Prom call me scum another 2 times. And then I said "I read the thread" and then posted what I posted. Dnu.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 11:30 GMT
#573
So I stated that I read the thread because after my post before that I was only on page 22.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 11:34 GMT
#574
On October 28 2013 20:30 Koshi wrote:
So I stated that I read the thread because after my post before that I was only on page 22.

I am even confusing myself here.
-------
This is what happened:
I wrote this when I was still on page 22
I called you 3p because you needed everybody to power you up. I understand you might have been joking or overstating it. I wasn't 100% serious

and then I wrote this when I was catched up:
I read the thread. I don't like Promethelax.

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 11:49 GMT
#577
On October 28 2013 20:14 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 20:08 marvellosity wrote:
Small point of order as I'm reading through - no, he's not doing it right. Careless people. Red my emphasis
On October 28 2013 12:46 Promethelax wrote:
You would need to post ##yolo Promethelax to power me up. If you think I am town please feel free to do so.

On October 28 2013 15:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
#yolo Promethelax
am i doing this right?

On October 28 2013 15:22 Promethelax wrote:
Oats: I think so. Why did you decide to give me power?


Point of Oder the y may need to be a Y not sure

On October 28 2013 06:43 Crossfire99 wrote:
If it wasn't clear with my rules, correct capitalization is important for all in-thread "actions"


This is directed to everybody:
If you intentionally misspell actions for whatever reason I am going to be sad. It's lame.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 28 2013 13:09 GMT
#587
Hmm I can make a conspiracy theory read on WoS. Be prepared!
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Koshi
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October 28 2013 13:20 GMT
#590
On October 28 2013 06:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hai guise.2) I miss being mafia (or even 3P).
3) My power is boring and semi-useless.
I'll use it on somebody later in the day I thinks.

4) It's super pro-town.

Be back in a couple hours-ish.

On October 28 2013 08:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I find the fact that Pandain even gets a slight scumread from my opening post hilarious. He's played games with me and should know almost every single opening post of mine is along the lines of what I rolled and 1) I often whine about something, often what I rolled.
+ Show Spoiler +

To me Pandain it looks more like YOU are the one who is trying to contribute something to look good---I don't find anything you picked out regarding me OR Rayn scum-indicative in any way, and as such I find your posting incredibly weak thus far.

Oh and I suppose I should have mentioned this before the game started but considering my not-so-great play and the embarrassing length of my filter in Thug, I plan on keeping things way more concise than usual. I do not plan to be in the top few posters lengthwise this game. Make of that what you will.

Anyway I'm tempted to fuck off until whatever Sentinel did resolves but I suppose that wouldn't be very helpful. Guess we'll see
.

If we believe what WoS said in (1), then we see him whining about not being mafia in (2). Him being mafia makes it logical he does (1) about (3). (3) and (4) contradict themselves if he is town. How can something be semi-useless and be super pro-town at the same time?

Time will tell! Because WoS promised to do it day 1.
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#597
On October 28 2013 22:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 28 2013 22:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont actually think he will play scum the same way as he did previously, that was a long time ago, but this game fits a lot into town marv. He doesnt wanna talk about people he doesnt want to talk about.
i dunno, its hard to express for me. But it doesnt feel like marv is trying to trick us into powering him up.

I just read scum!marv and town!marv D1's and this apathy of his does not fit into each one of them. Then i read Catch 22 and it doesn't fit into there. I have no fucking idea what to think. 4th party? Since when has marv not commented on the leading lynch candidate in no way as any alignment?

marv what do you you want to talk about? Or are you just going to watch what happens and then what? And why?

Hmm. Marv in Noir was not really pushing anything hard D1, it felt like he was gathering reads. D2 he fixed that and concentrated more on specific people but still didn't rally town to vote for Cephiro and then N2 he guaranteed Cephiro scumread.
LastArgument was an awesome guy but also didn't rally town to vote D1 in Hogwarts. He didn't comment too much on Cephiro except say that his big post was enough to not vote him D1 and then later asked Cephiro some questions. His vote on Palmar was simply explained by "sheep syllo".

Marv plays to town meta. But I guess he can emulate that as scum because he is marv.
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October 28 2013 13:32 GMT
#599
On October 28 2013 22:27 Seuss wrote:
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On October 28 2013 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:04 Seuss wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:55 Promethelax wrote:
Seuss, no more role fishing without purpose. What do you think about oats and why?

Rayn, I'll take you at your word that your power usage isn't alignment indicative at the moment. I'm sure you can figure out what I was getting at. I still like pandain for the moment based on his try Harding. I do t have meta on him so I get to read him on his play, a nice early try hard adds so e green points for now.

Cotton candy, if you are so anxious to type why not say something useful. Early reads?


Sorry, I was just really surprised at how much people were throwing on the table day 1. It's kinda like all the major town roles soft-claimed in a giant explosion of nonsense. Normally this would be a stupid thing to do, but then this game setup is pretty wonky.

Oats is pretty confrontational and terse. He doesn't really address Pandain's concerns about rayn in a meaningful way, but just laughs him off. I don't really follow his [UoN]Sentinel scum/town rayn/Koshi logic because it isn't spelled out at all, it just sort of is.

So right now I read him as slightly scummy, but he could just be town who isn't communicating well. We had a lot of those in my last game.

You see this followup doesn't make sense.

If Seuss is surprised/disappointed at how people were coming out and claiming asap, why then exacerbate the situation by making multiple comments with relation to guessing what these roles and powers were? If you're concerened about people claiming early, why then guess at powers and even ask other people to guess at powers?
Someone a little more clever than I am and more experienced in mafia could probably make reasonably accurate guesses as to what their powers do

Boo.


I'm an analyst. At the heart of my approach to mafia is finding all the puzzle pieces and putting them together. You can go back to the recent newbie mini mafia game and look through my coach QT with WaveOfShadow and see that it's exactly what I was doing there as well. When I'm given information I try to make sense of it and fit it into the puzzle.

Perhaps it was a little egotistical of me, but the purpose of my post was largely admonishment. I wasn't asking others to guess at powers, but pointing out that revealing powers for no reason was stupid because people could guess at them. A bunch of people pulled out their powers immediately, several of whom (including you!) had to backtrack because apparently now wasn't the appropriate or best time for it. That, and the flurry of thoughtless power ups, is what got me in a tizzy. You've let the mafia know you have powers at a point in the game where you apparently don't even want to use them. I don't see how that's good town play.

I wouldn't be so mad/confused if I knew you all had good reasons for bringing out your powers, and if I could be certain all of the powers coming into play are town powers.

Just saying I didn't backtrack and

##Update Koshi

Is still something all the cool kids do.
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October 28 2013 13:46 GMT
#615
Seuss do you have townreads atm?
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October 28 2013 13:55 GMT
#621
Clarityyou know what Oats meta is? Or at least what everybody says his meta is?

Also, in case you missed it, ##Update Koshi if you are a cool kid.
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October 28 2013 14:31 GMT
#643
Without need to explain yourself further. Do you think I am town Seuss?
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October 28 2013 14:38 GMT
#650
On October 28 2013 23:32 Seuss wrote:
Yes.

Then do
##Update Koshi
What is holding you back?
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October 28 2013 14:49 GMT
#656
On October 28 2013 23:42 Promethelax wrote:
Koshi, why is getting powered up your only concern? Have you considered playing the game and not the roles?

It's not my only concern. I don't know yet who I will vote but I think Oats, rayn, marv look quite townie. I am eagerly awaiting Sentinel and WoS doing their action. And meanwhile I am gathering votes.
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October 28 2013 14:50 GMT
#658
On October 28 2013 23:48 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi - same question to you as to Oats, does it make any difference if you're powered up now or at the end of the day?

Nha, I need x votes at the end of the day to do y. Then I can do y on z where z is a somebody who gave me one of the x. But it's all crap. Remember this because I won't reveal more ever.
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October 28 2013 15:44 GMT
#679
On October 29 2013 00:33 Promethelax wrote:
Does anyone else like that SnB didn't come in here apologizing? It feels townie to me that he got right down to brass tacks and didn't shit around being sorry for having to catch up.

I wouldn't lynch him today.

Nha, he had less than 2 pages in Thug Life mafia in which he was scum and bussed his teammates hardcore. Never said sorry for being less active. In a game that was insanely active.
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October 28 2013 15:47 GMT
#680
I should say teammate.
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October 28 2013 16:11 GMT
#686
Well you aren't BH.
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October 28 2013 16:27 GMT
#692
Hmm. Only 13 players in this game. I am going to go with 9 town + 1 3p with his own wincon or town wincon with a twist + 3 scummers.

I got to say I have a hard time pointing out 3 scummers. D:
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October 28 2013 16:40 GMT
#697
On October 29 2013 01:38 HotCottonCandy wrote:
alright I will take a look at that game when I get back. Maybe that's the missing piece I am searching for.

For now, toodles cuties

Dandel Ion?
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October 28 2013 16:42 GMT
#699
On October 29 2013 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Koshi, who do you think is scum?

No idea. YET.
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October 28 2013 16:48 GMT
#702
Yeah, I am going to go with marv, rayn, seuss and Oats town.
But your townread just got downgraded a bit because you are correct on the amount of pages in this game.
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October 28 2013 16:53 GMT
#707
Conspiracy theory by marv. damn.
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October 28 2013 17:29 GMT
#716
Sadly Oats doesnt roll scum so I cant be sure this meta is still applicable but it is known that Oats is agressive and in your face when town, while he is evasive and shifty as scum. Look at how Seuss describes Oats in his analysis.

That and the fact that Oats isn't doing anything really scummy. Or I am not seeing it.
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October 28 2013 19:21 GMT
#731
I think he is saying that we have different opinions this game and that it is likely that we will be more likely fighting than working together. Which I doubt is true and I don't understand why he says that because I have been reaching out to rayn.

Last guy that was trying to come between rayn and Koshi was Vayne in Golden Sun. Just saying, just saying.
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October 28 2013 19:24 GMT
#732
And when people are not scummy I simply cannot make a case.
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October 28 2013 19:30 GMT
#735
Yeah, I wonder why WoS said that. Please explain.
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October 28 2013 19:38 GMT
#736
On October 29 2013 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi why do you think Pandain is not scum?
Also what does you having hrd time finding scum this game tell you?

I don't think Pandain is scum because he gave me a townread. I just liked how and when he did it.
There are multiple games in which I don't instantly find scum. I will point it out when I see something, I am always transparent with my reads. I'll see if I can make a quick list where I am standing.
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October 28 2013 21:41 GMT
#778
I think it is Dandel Ion. But he isn't yelling meta yet 24/7 yet so I am not sure yet.
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#779
ah no. That's the other guy. Candyman.
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October 28 2013 22:41 GMT
#787
I am not too happy to vote OOHCHILD. I am hoping cool things will happen with Sentinel and WoS power. I know I am somewhat less involved but I didn't get feels yet in this game. This is were I am/my gameplan.

Promethelax + Show Spoiler +
Strange case on me by "misunderstanding" me. I replied and he gave me a town read, which is towny because he could have just put me on null. His analysis on Pandain giving up that omgus game (which I don't understand how to read btw, it has 3 pages?) was pretty strange. It was on Koshi level, which means that even I felt that it was a bit wonky. Null tbh, but I am not going to vote a 5 page filter guy today unless he starts to be really scummy.


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Good points for WoS are:
1) his case on Prome which is something nice to read. Just makes sense when you read it.
2) Him giving Seuss a townread without any bullshit. It gives me the vibe that WoS wants to steer town in the right direction by saying "don't look at Seuss, he has my seal of approval, I know the guy, don't waste time on him just yet".

Bad points:
Top 2 posts of page 3 in his filter are not good, he lost me there. Something about not knowing who to vote for now while being unclear about Clarity which was a hot discussion. And then building up on that saying something about rayn and I not being bros this game and some things about his Ver-skills around Clarity. I don't know what that was all about. I would say he was startled by the votes piling on Clarity and his first post on page 3 of his filter is trying to put some suspicion on 2 other guys where I am one of them but meh.

But I am pretty sure he will pick it up again. I also want to know what his super pro town power is.


Pandain + Show Spoiler +
Sheep rayn on Pandain.


[UoN]Sentinel + Show Spoiler +
See what his power gives, when he kills town we revisit his filter and the case on him. If he kills scum we dance with joy and call him jeebus. Anything else and we are mad. Countdown = nuke or New Year but that doesn't start on 15.


Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler +
Going to give him a townread. I like his activity and his posting. Extra bonus, Seuss described Oats his town meta in his case on Oats.


strongandbig + Show Spoiler +
Pfff. Was pretty town in Thug and flipped red. I can read him if you all get angry and force me to read him. I don't want to atm


OOHCHILD + Show Spoiler +
You shouldn't be in this game. I will be kicking and screaming in the future that hosts don't allow people like this to join games. I allow smurfs if they state they are smurfs. Nothing else to say.


marvellosity + Show Spoiler +
townread, everybody his townread, sheeping him is considered pro-town. I might do that.


Seuss + Show Spoiler +
The main thing I like about Seuss is that WoS gives him a townread. Which is pretty insane. If WoS is town there is no reason for him to give Seuss a free pass + we can trust his honest judgement. If WoS is scum, I doubt he would give his scumbuddy such a strong townread, more likely Seuss is town anyway when WoS is scum .
Second thing I like about Seuss is his posting. It's frequent & easy on the eyes. He comes straight out of noobie games so I can see his early game posting as noob scum bravery, but his posts are too detailed and sexy to be coming from scum


Clarity_nl + Show Spoiler +
Dnu what's up with him. Can I say I am disappointed Clarity? Your case on Oats is so lifeless, it doesn't give me the feeling you might be right and Oats is scum. And I reread it 2 times because I would like to find scum in you but I decided it is just not Clarity worthy.


HotCottonCandy + Show Spoiler +
dnu except that it is DI. I could read filter later on but I really don't feel like doing it atm.


raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler +
rayn is awesome. Will sheep if he asks.


So I am sad that there are no scums in this game. OOHCHILD and Clarity might be scum, but really, that's so easy and then who is the third? It's not Koshi, I can tell you that with 100% certainty.

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October 28 2013 22:50 GMT
#790
4eva? Or just this lynch?
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October 28 2013 23:59 GMT
#803
Tomorrow lynch should go like this:
Marv & rayn are currently townreads for most people. Marv has selected Promethelax as likely town and his trusted counselor. Pandain is eager to prove his townyness to rayn and I know rayn is confident in reading him. WoS can show off his eagerness as pro town loyalist and add his wise opinion which is respected by marv.

Then there are peasants who should add reasonable and smart opinions on the subjects of interest from the above 5. Sentinel will guard over the honesty with an ace in his pocket, Seuss seems intellectually qualified and eager, HotCottonCandy looks like he can come out of the shadow holding a shiny key and we can always count on Oats to bluntly state his opinion.

It will be fine.
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October 29 2013 00:26 GMT
#830
Arffffffff how did I not see it was VA. Now people need to see if the case he made that ended up with that picture at the bottom looks like the case he made on blubbdavid in golden sun. I would do it but I am in bed and need sleep.

Awwww. I would have liked to play with a smurf VA. Because we indeed meta him too much. Meh.
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October 29 2013 08:31 GMT
#853
Ok, my previous message was untrue. He didn't make a case on blubbdavid in Golden Sun it seems. Silly me.

But going with HotCottonCandy is town. He gave strong townreads in marv/prom/Oats. Null on me/rayn and only once suggested that one of us might be scum, and was interested in my reads on WoS/Seuss which he himself didn't bother looking into yet. He is also not trying to stear the thread into chaos or disunity.

Also this puts Sentinel on the scummy side of things.
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October 29 2013 09:01 GMT
#855
You want us to twerk?

Because I want updates.
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October 29 2013 09:16 GMT
#857
Ahh, I now see that Pandain is not going to boost anybody... wow. So silly.
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October 29 2013 09:37 GMT
#858
I am going to find everybody who doesn't put his ass near marvs crotch when he asks it suspicious and a bad player. Obviously he is not going to insta win the game as scum when he gets powered up. Like I said before on Oats, I could see 3p wincon be "get everybody to twerk you in a phase" but even if 3p it is not going to break the game. No reason not to do it.

Marv, is your ability a night action or a cool ingame action?
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October 29 2013 11:12 GMT
#907
On October 29 2013 18:39 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 29 2013 18:16 Koshi wrote:
Ahh, I now see that Pandain is not going to boost anybody... wow. So silly.

Hmm, did he say that and I missed it? It makes it a little less suspicious.

My powers are not in-thread.

No he didn't say that but if he isn't going to give his very exciting and very townread no powerup because he might fear he is scum anyway, I am not having big hopes for the rest of us.

On October 29 2013 18:40 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, do you think rayn is pushing stuff as much as usual? He doesn't seem very gung-ho to me, and that worries me a bit. But you don't seem to be worried about him at all.

I was a bit worried in the start but unless rayn is obvious scum to me I think I am going to ignore him till a point in the game I am forced to see him as scum. There is no reason for me to put unneeded pressure on him because I believe I can read him without having to interact with him. So our conversations should be about finding scum together more than finding out each other alignement.

It is also a fact that I am the one that has the harder time reading rayn compared to rayn reading me. Golden Sun I was saying he was scum right before he got shot that night (N4), and he was shot for being 100% right on his reads... I think I can read rayn based around the point he decides I am town If you look at Noir I am pretty sure I started yelling rayn was 100% scum because he couldn't see I was town after my N1, which I played town meta Koshi. He could have still said I was scum but should have said I faked my meta, not the weak ass reasons he gave there. In this game he just gave me a leaning town read after my list of reads, which is a good moment for rayn to say that about me.

But i'll add this for now:
I was not the biggest fan of rayn his first pages, as he was pretty easygoing counting down with me, while I was asking questions at Sentinel he was just yoloing with me. Him giving a good answer to somebody asking about that is pretty null. I was surprised that he kept his cool interrogating Pandain because I would expect a bit more fire but he really kept his cool, even saying that Pandain was not readable for anybody atm because he was still null on Pandain and therefore shutting down some people who were pushing Pandain in the scummy corner for Pandains case on rayn.

rayn is in no danger of getting lynched today and his play was on a level I can/want to trust him with his reads. But like I said in my list, I am willing to sheep rayn on Pandain and when rayn specifically asks me to sheep him. Otherwise I am more inclined to sheep marv.
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October 29 2013 11:22 GMT
#913
I am working and have been typing the above up in the last 3 hours.... Lots of shizzle happened in between.

##Twerk

Still in consideration if I will do the thing for Prom. Probably will do all the powers.

Not amused by Sentinel thingie not going through. I do not understand the secrecy and the "breadcrumbing". rayn said that it was already strange that Sentinel was so excited about his power when we were counting down, then he was already a lot less excited and unwilling to use it when we reached 0 and went AWOL after we reached 0. I wanted to give him a pass because the power and now it seems like the multiple posts he made about it were just hidden messages that it did nothing??? Why not tell the thread straight? Probably because scum and didn't know how else to participate.

Sentinel is on the VERY scummy side of things now and I am suggesting him as a policy lynch over OOHCHILD.

I'll sheep marv on Clarity first. Where the fuck is he? I expect high quality from Town Clarity because in both voice and forum mafia he always provided that.
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October 29 2013 11:27 GMT
#914
##Unvote
##Vote: Clarity_nl
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October 29 2013 12:00 GMT
#938
eeuhm, wth Prome...


put in a lot of early game effort and started things off when there was nothing going on - Was very active giving reads early in Hogwarts and flipped scum.
bowed to thread pressure really quickly on the OMGus thing - I don't even understand why this is scummy/town
buddying accusation into buddying - oki I agree scummy
refusing to power his town read - scummy
no one defended his lynch - Who is going to defend his lynch more than 30 hours before the deadline? And first lynches don't go through. Scum isn't dumb... Null.
was attacked by scummy people - eeuhm? You just said rayn is confirmed town to you and he pushed the Pandain wagon at first.
three people scummier than him - That's your opinion and I don't see how that makes Padain town unless those 3 people are like 75% scum to you which I doubt they are.
___

You are making Pandain look scummy tbh.
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October 29 2013 12:20 GMT
#945
On October 29 2013 21:07 Promethelax wrote:
so you agree Koshi with my read of him as scummy but not the scummiest? I think everyone is having a problem not with what I'm saying but with not getting my conclusion. My conclusion is that he is the fourth scummiest person in this thread though in light of relooking at the voting I might put him as scummier than Sent. I have an issue with Sent being so effortless though, like Panda at least tried to make a case on someone. Sent hasn't done ANYTHING!

No, I think Pandain is pretty scummy. I'll bounce ideas around with rayn later on. He claims to be able to read Pandain perfectly and I am sure he is willing to provide a lenghty case on why we should lynch Pandain if he beleives Pandain to be scum.

If rayn doesn't think Pandain is worth lynching it isn't going to happen anyway.
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October 29 2013 12:32 GMT
#954
On October 29 2013 21:23 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
On October 29 2013 21:07 Promethelax wrote:
so you agree Koshi with my read of him as scummy but not the scummiest? I think everyone is having a problem not with what I'm saying but with not getting my conclusion. My conclusion is that he is the fourth scummiest person in this thread though in light of relooking at the voting I might put him as scummier than Sent. I have an issue with Sent being so effortless though, like Panda at least tried to make a case on someone. Sent hasn't done ANYTHING!

No, I think Pandain is pretty scummy. I'll bounce ideas around with rayn later on. He claims to be able to read Pandain perfectly and I am sure he is willing to provide a lenghty case on why we should lynch Pandain if he beleives Pandain to be scum.

If rayn doesn't think Pandain is worth lynching it isn't going to happen anyway.


pretty scummy sounds a lot like 'scummy but not the scummiest' if you want to lynch Pandain what are you doing on marv's clarity wagon?

Clarity is an elitist and marv is marv. 2 good reasons to lynch Clarity this game.

I think Pandain has a good chance to flip red from where I am standing, but I am letting rayn do the case. rayn claims that he is a Pandain specialist. I am waiting on rayn and I suggest you keep your questions concerning Pandain being scum for him. I think rayn will be around soonish.
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October 29 2013 12:57 GMT
#977
I also find it funny :D
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#979
##Yolo Promethelax
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#1047
Ok, because rayn didn't make a case on Pandain and don't thinks he is scum I made the case. It's made for rayn but it's why I think Pandain is scummy.
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#1050
On October 29 2013 23:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
##Twerk

Think I'll stick around for 30-60 min so will do what I can.

Clarity can you do ##Update Koshi

I don't know why but nobody wants to do it and I am really town.
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October 29 2013 14:23 GMT
#1068
Pandain

This is a quote from rayn in our hydra QT from Hogwarts. Which I used this game to watch Pandain.
Also Pandain, you have gone into your scum!mode of making zero sense pushing bad lynches and having bad thoughts that make no sense. Plz if you are town step up your game and do not overthink stuff.



I have been reading Pandain filter and his entire first page of his filter is pushing rayn early for bad reasons. This is exactly describing rayns scum Pandain meta as pushing a bad lynch. I think everybody agrees that it was a horrible push on rayn?

Page 2 is not much better, starts off with toying around with OOHCHILD and backing off on his read on rayn:
On October 28 2013 14:14 Pandain wrote:
Woops I went to do homework, completely forgot I intended to be here.

Honestly I was a bit upset that you guys are overcharacterizing my push when it was my best read at an early time and I was simply sharing it which was more then you guys were doing with circlejerk power-upping.

I like Rayn's later play and found justifications for his play which I won't talk about, but I may have misread him early on. Still, ignoring that I think I would have a good read for this time.

But then it is your turn to interrogate Pandain and Pandain is forced to talk a lot with you but happily does that and puts down gems like this:
On October 28 2013 14:17 Pandain wrote:
I mean I thought it was a real power and it sounded deadly against Koshi.

What was I supposed to do?

The first thing I said and it was modconfirmed fast that it was not a "real power" because rayn putted down a colon and it wouldn't have counted.

Page 2 of his filter is dominated having a conversation with rayn/Prome. Nothing big there or am I missing something there? I think your (rayn) townread on Pandain must have been formed there? Why?
The redeeming post forthe thread should be the big post that looks like it contains Pandains scumhunting/reads.
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On October 29 2013 05:10 Pandain wrote:
Marv is striking me as very town, which is very exciting for me. Usually I would think it would be hard to read Marv since he's such a good player, but even if he's scum he's still making really good points which, as long as we continue to judge them, will work in town favor.

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He has also already posted 6 pages worth of shit, and they're all good. Indicative of town

He really thought hard about Prom and I love what he said about Prom being way too cocky, I actually had a null read on him but now I think I have a moderate town read on him, probably not as "sure" in it as Marv.

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he also wasn't a dick to me


Originally I disagreed with Seuss being scummy but now I agree, with some addendums.

Here is Marv's post:
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On October 28 2013 18:21 marvellosity wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:47 Seuss wrote:
On October 28 2013 11:50 Promethelax wrote:
So I get that this is a theme game but everyone is just trying to get their powers charged up. Allow me to say: STOP!

unless you have a town read on someone don't power them up. For serious. Why should we help scum this early in the game? Yer all dumb.

Lets treat this like a normal game for a little while, get some scum reads and do this right. Random powering up of other people is, in my opinion, policy lynchable, discuss.


This was honestly bothering me as well. People have been throwing hashtags left and right without a thought or care as to the consequences, and up until this post the only person who thought twice about it was Pandain (and even then only in the case of raynpelikoneet).

It's not that Koshi, [UoN]Sentinel, marvellosity, or Oatsmaster are particularly suspicious at the moment, but it's pretty silly to just blindly power them up. It's also mildly irresponsible of them to immediately reveal that they have potentially useful powers, though at this point I expect everyone has something and it's likely not all powers are created equal. Based on the hashtags, it's pretty obvious that the powers are connected to their given celebrities. Someone a little more clever than I am and more experienced in mafia could probably make reasonably accurate guesses as to what their powers do

My best guess is Refudiate (Sarah Palin) is going to be some form of role block.

The bolded sentence looks like fairly baseless and unwarranted criticism. Given I, and presumably others, actually literally require people to type specific things in the thread to use our powers, how else should we have gone about it, in your opinion? I can't keep the entirety of my role a secret, because then I don't have a role.

To the underlined, we've already had one vanilla town claim; are you calling that player a liar? Are you disagreeing with at least one other player (that I forget) who suggested it's unlikely we all have powers?

To the red, interesting that your mindset is to try to workout what powers these blues/powers have. Why would you even speculate on that right now if you're town? Much more of a mafia mindset.

I don't like your whole post basically.


However I disagree with this slight suspicion of Seuss. Now if Seuss had written out his post during the course of 5 hours and thought very clearly and wanted to be 100% consistant, it would be suspicious (though still not scummy).

His bolded statement mirrored my thoughts and is a defendable statement even if it isn't 100% justifiable since yes some people need others for their powers. The underlined is clearly just poor reading and doesn't indicate scum.

The red statement is interesting however and important to think about.

There are better reasons to be suspicious of Seuss
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On October 28 2013 23:29 Seuss wrote:
On October 28 2013 22:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hai marv.
I can talk about Prome for just a little bit atm if you'd like, but I'm nor sure how long I'll be around so we won't be able to pick each other's brains as per usual. What exactly were you saving up regarding your townread of him to tell me?

Oh and regarding Seuss (monte it's so weird to call you that) he seems pretty town to me. Like he said I coached him and his behaviour falls pretty in line with his last newbie, as well as what you determined to be him rolefishing. I give him the WaveofShadow newbie stamp of approval for now, though I would really like to hear some reads from him, as I know he is pretty capable of good analysis with way less to work with than has been posted in this thread.


Yay stamp of approval.

Now that I'm not distracted by marv here are my current thoughts.

Promethelax: Probably town. When I, an unknown entity, entered the thread his first response was to solicit my opinion in a neutral way, and keep drawing more information from me regarding my mindset. This was good, pro-town play, as it lets him and everyone else get the chance to form a read on me. In general I'd call him inquisitive, he likes poking where there's gaps in information. He's been a bit more confrontational with some of the other posters, but confrontational isn't inherently anti-town. Without him we'd probably know a lot less right now. I can get why people would find his "I can't meta Pandain" and apparent lack of scum reads concerning, but on the whole I think he's clearly town.

strongandbig: No idea, but unless he starts posting a crapton before the voting deadline I think we're better off pursuing someone else. We stand to learn absolutely nothing by lynching him, though applying pressure might help loosen his tongue.

Oatsmaster: Maybe scum. There's still a lot of "if so-and-so is Y, so-and-so #2 is X" without an explanation of the logic. I don't think it makes sense for him to give marv a pass for not talking about who he doesn't want to talk about, but not give Promethelax a similar pass for not following up where he doesn't want to follow up. He says he's made a strong case but you have to go back through about 30 posts and pick it up in bits and pieces, which is time consuming and not all that convincing. I realize this may just be his posting style and "meta" or whatever, but I find it obfuscates information more than I'd like.

You guys move faster than I can analyze and parse. Waugh.



Very poor post, list format instead of comprehensive. Also what is the middle paragraph which is a basic "I don't know."


Also his other posts are really wishy-washy and constantly changing.

I do think he's worth looking out for though shouldn't be a lynch target today.

I do agree Clarity is suspicious, made a poor post which only focused on one person. It is so incredibly assumption based and wouldn't be what I expect Clarity to be suspicious of. He says Oats is suspicious because he didn't add to what someone else said.

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On October 28 2013 22:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
So, it's cool that you both thought yuck at the same time apparently, but then don't just ignore me and talk to eachother, explain.


I don't know why but this post bothers me

Then Marv calls him out and he immediately back tracks

I also think Koshi is suspicious. Where is carefree Koshi? He's so defensive. He also isn't attempting to buddy Rayn which I have seen in all my past games which I'm pretty sure they've both been in them all.



Now imo there are MANY things wrong with this post:
1) Pandain calls Marv town and Pandain is excited about that. But Pandain doesn't do something as simple as power marv up a couple hours later.

2) The biggest chunk of the post seem to be about Seuss. But look at what Pandain actually says, he is not giving any reason Seuss is scum except that marv is on the money (that's handy, instant 1-up on his new exciting townread) and makes a big deal about Seuss adding a paragraph on SnB that is without content. I think he is also saying that Seuss his reads on Oats and Prome are just listing what they do and that it is not real analysis but I disagree there. The things Seuss says about both Prom and Oats is him being transparant on how he sees both and why.
Pandain then goes on saying Seuss makes a ton more wishy washy posts and that he is a good lynch...

3) Pandain agrees Clarity is a good lynch. The posts he quotes is actually not a bad post from Clarity, why would it be wrong for town Clarity to ask feedback on his case and interaction about it? I don't get that.

4) Koshi is suspicious. yabbayabba meta reasons yabbeyabbayabbe ... I was town in his eyes a couple hours before that. Dont know where that went...

On October 29 2013 05:15 Pandain wrote:
I'll be blunt Rayn the reason why I took my suspicion off of you was because you could be a mason role and therefore it would make sense to PM Marv.

However if it's anything else there's no real justification for it as it reveals your role, unless, I forgot, the purpose of the role itself is to reveal it!

You also upped your game and are being town.

On October 29 2013 05:54 Pandain wrote:
But I didn't realize your probably a mason role. I thought you were using a power to have another effect on someone which wouldn't be justifiable literally unless its a mason role.


This looks like a kiss and make up attempt to be honest. I cut the biggest portion of that first post because it was some more asskissing why rayn is town. But wtf is it about the mason thing? Maybe it is correct and that is why you (rayn) don't see him as scum? I don't find that a good reason though.

Page 3 of Pandain is nothing. There is nothing. There is litteraly nothing. Nothing.


So that's why I have a scumread on Pandain.
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#1093
If we don't lynch Clarity today we are not lynching him ever again this game. We believe his sincerity or we don't.
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#1094
Also, I am inclined to believe him and willing to lose the game if he lies.
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#1097
btw, I got modkilled in Hogwarts while being way more nice about CR his martyring/bad play. I am bitter.
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#1109
On October 29 2013 23:53 OOHCHILD wrote:
I have not just been asking questions. I have also been giving a lot of opinions and reasons behind those opinions. Read my recent filter. Until then you are on ignore.

Do you think I am still scum? And bussing Pandain?
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October 29 2013 15:01 GMT
#1123
WHAT ABOUT UPDATING KOSHI

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:
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October 29 2013 15:13 GMT
#1137
On October 30 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
shoud I update you koshi?

Yes.
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#1144
On October 30 2013 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, why isn't rayn offering an opinion on what Clarity did? Why has he just come in to make a small comment about Oats' meta? :/

Why is he posting about that rather than telling us that it makes Clarity mafia still or town because x,y?

I got an urge rayn was scum with Pandain while making that case on Pandain. But preflip associations are bad and stuff. BUT I think with a town Pandain and a scum rayn, rayn would have been on Pandain ass more viciously.

Him not talking about Clarity is ... I don't know.
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October 29 2013 15:25 GMT
#1151
On October 30 2013 00:23 OOHCHILD wrote:
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On October 30 2013 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:13 OOHCHILD wrote:
I am a terrible lynch because I tried to clear the only alternative bandwagon. I am a terrible lynch because I have not been afraid to stick out. I am a terrible lynch because I have given plenty of opinions and also given reasons why I have those opinions.

I dont understand the first point. The second point doesnt really make sense to me either, thinking marv is scum is so bad, its scummy. Your opinions and reasons are bad.
Bad in a scummy way.


Last post for real.
There are two bandwagons, me and Clarity. If Clarity doesn't get lynched, it's very likely I will. As scum why would I try so hard to clear Clarity if it meant it would be more likely that I was going to be lynched?

Scum wants to blend in. I did several unnecessary, weird things this game that made me stick out.

It's bad to think marvel is scum? Get real and cut the wifom. If your read of Marv is anything other than null than it's you who is dumb.

marv is 100% town. He is confirmed. I don't know who you are but if you are unknown with marv you better accept it.
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#1170
On October 30 2013 00:44 Seuss wrote:
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On October 30 2013 00:41 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On October 30 2013 00:35 marvellosity wrote:
I guess after all I want to lynch into WoS/Pandain today.


What is the cases on them? Pandain has looked flaky but nothing too serious to warrant a lynch.

WoS randomly boosted Seuss who I haven't looked into at all but that seems incredibly weird. I guess that's worth pursuing.


I'm a little weirded out by it honestly. The first time he stuck out his neck for me I was flattered and appreciative, but he's been bringing me up fairly often in a buddy-buddy fashion. The boost, whatever it does, is just the weird icing on the cake.

You don't know what it is? It's supposed to be super protown.
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#1171
Sheep rayn
##Unvote:
##Vote: WaveofShadow
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#1174
WoS can be scum.
Sentinel can be scum.
SnB can be scum.

My top 3 atm.
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October 29 2013 15:50 GMT
#1178
Ohyeah. Pandain!

Look at that.
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#1179
I forgot about Pandain for a second...
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#1195
On October 30 2013 00:52 marvellosity wrote:
rayn what does Koshi forgetting Pandain mean?

Yeah I don't know. I just forgot him for a second. also I might be connecting Pandain and rayn to much.
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October 29 2013 18:01 GMT
#1376
Seuss didnt counterclaim WoS because he has a completely different power. He can add and remove power. He knew Pandain could remove power before and didnt react back then. While it is also a part of his power.

Seuss said he wanted to get WoS lynched pregame. This looks like that.

WoS voting himself is so retarded... Also him saying that this is on us is silly. I am not on pc atm but WoS better never quoted the Palmar statement about d1 lynch.
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#1378
I am ninjad but I am phoneposting and hands are freezing... really slow
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#1388
On October 30 2013 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 30 2013 02:59 Seuss wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:55 Seuss wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:42 OOHCHILD wrote:
Wait, Marvel, doesn't Seuss have to claim there? Or else he has to never use his power and claim vanilla?

Yeah this is a point.

Seuss - why did you leave using your power until after Wave did? When were you planning on using it otherwise?


Because my power only works at the end of the day, and by its nature whatever choice I make today determines the pattern for the rest of the game.

Once WaveofShadow claimed his power I thought it was odd for there to be multiple voting powers so I thought to counter-claim. I'd forgotten about Pandain, and then he brought up his own power. Once I saw that and Wave became martyr #2 I had the idea for the vote test.



I also forgot:

##Vote [UoN]Sentinel

How did you forget about Pandain as he kinda claimed earlier already?


I wrote that off as a non-serious exchange and didn't think any more of it. I didn't think it made any sense for Pandain to randomly assert he had a power like that.

Fair enough. I actually thought Pandain was pressuring Koshi as he said his power was permanent and i find it hard to believe that's true.

I dont believe this from Seuss. Pandain said very clearly 4eva... How is that joking around when you have the same power... And if he noticed it, the symmetricalness would make instant sense when WoS said he could add.

Something is wrong with Seuss. The only excuse I accept is "I didnt read it" and it being Pandain claiming.
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#1395
On October 30 2013 03:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 30 2013 03:15 Koshi wrote:
On October 30 2013 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:59 Seuss wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:55 Seuss wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:42 OOHCHILD wrote:
Wait, Marvel, doesn't Seuss have to claim there? Or else he has to never use his power and claim vanilla?

Yeah this is a point.

Seuss - why did you leave using your power until after Wave did? When were you planning on using it otherwise?


Because my power only works at the end of the day, and by its nature whatever choice I make today determines the pattern for the rest of the game.

Once WaveofShadow claimed his power I thought it was odd for there to be multiple voting powers so I thought to counter-claim. I'd forgotten about Pandain, and then he brought up his own power. Once I saw that and Wave became martyr #2 I had the idea for the vote test.



I also forgot:

##Vote [UoN]Sentinel

How did you forget about Pandain as he kinda claimed earlier already?


I wrote that off as a non-serious exchange and didn't think any more of it. I didn't think it made any sense for Pandain to randomly assert he had a power like that.

Fair enough. I actually thought Pandain was pressuring Koshi as he said his power was permanent and i find it hard to believe that's true.

I dont believe this from Seuss. Pandain said very clearly 4eva... How is that joking around when you have the same power... And if he noticed it, the symmetricalness would make instant sense when WoS said he could add.

Something is wrong with Seuss. The only excuse I accept is "I didnt read it" and it being Pandain claiming.

Did you think Pandain's power was real when he threathened you with it?

I found it OP and strange. Didnt think too much of it. But I am not having almost the same role. I would at least connected the dots when WoS claimed instead of CC WoS and votinv WoS.

Also wasnt there somewhere a case on Pandain on revealing his role randomly?

But I agree with Candy that Seuss plays strong and quick on his feet. But newbie scum has more balls than experienced scum I think. But maybe not.

It is hard picking between WoS Seuss and Pandain tbh.
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#1398
Yeah kinda funny it is these 3.
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#1399
Also marv got 3 vote power atm. Rofl.
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October 29 2013 19:33 GMT
#1447
Reading WoS filter and not impressed. This post takes all the cakes.

On October 30 2013 02:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
1) I don't like the counterclaim by Seuss because I think he's omitting something.
I mean...I guess it's possible that there are multiple vote addition/vote removal roles which have different names and different activations but ugh.

I'm done guys. If you vote me down, at least do me the 2) honour of looking into my filter after I die. I have provided what reads I could and I don't think that they are bad.

3) THIS IS NOT A MARTYR POST, but since no one has told me who I should be voting for and I have no clear scumreads I will sheep town sentiment which I hate doing, but I said I would.

##Vote: WaveofShadow

1) He doesn't like Seuss because he believes Seuss is leaving something out of his claim. Doesn't like Seuss play overall. But still votes himself. Didn't change his vote off himself after Seuss actually admits for leaving something out of his CC....

2) I just did, unless Prome is scum there is nothing in his first 2 pages of filter. top of page 3 WoS already doesn't know who is scum anymore and starts praising/supporting Seuss. Which is now a scumread or not? I don't know. But what is WoS referring to? Prom being scum? Can't he just say that?

3) This is not a martyr post, but let me park my vote on myself...
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Can somebody read WoS filter and verify point 2?
What are the possible good reads in WoS filter?
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October 29 2013 19:52 GMT
#1459
Seuss
Why did you not say anything about the ##Boost power from WoS?
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#1460
On October 30 2013 04:34 Promethelax wrote:
Having already read his filter twice I can confirm 2 to be true.

Which ones? If it is you being scum than we might need switch off to WoS.
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October 29 2013 20:02 GMT
#1462
On October 30 2013 05:01 OOHCHILD wrote:
Koshi I like how you are suddenly making a new long case to support whatever popular opinion is currently. Keep it up! It will help me get you lynched.

yay for me :D
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October 29 2013 20:09 GMT
#1466
On October 30 2013 05:04 Promethelax wrote:
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On October 30 2013 04:58 Koshi wrote:
On October 30 2013 04:34 Promethelax wrote:
Having already read his filter twice I can confirm 2 to be true.

Which ones? If it is you being scum than we might need switch off to WoS.


that there are no scum reads in his early game besides me. And later in the game he added Suess.

ahyeah -_-. I misread that.
There is really nothing in WoS his filter indeed.
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#1470
On October 30 2013 05:13 Seuss wrote:
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On October 30 2013 04:52 Koshi wrote:
Seuss
Why did you not say anything about the ##Boost power from WoS?


I wasn't here at the time he used it, and when I got back he wasn't here and no one had commented on it. Meanwhile, what would later become the OOHCHILD/Clarity fiasco was underway so I dove right into that.

So you read it while catching up and didn't think it was worthwhile to talk about? Did you believe WoS actually used a power on you?
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October 29 2013 20:19 GMT
#1472
WoS I also didn't eat lunch today and then missed my train back home D: It was cold and I was hungry. But no worries now I am totally warm and fulfilled. That being said:

Which reads in your filter are useful for when you flip town? I only see you talk about Prome being scum. Is that still true? Do you believe that? Why?

I think it is a good time to make a case on Prome.
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October 29 2013 20:23 GMT
#1475
btw WoS. Reads on Pandain and SnB? I think we are pretty indecisive about those 2.

Why do you think Oats and VA are scum... I like those 2 tbh.
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October 29 2013 20:39 GMT
#1491
I'll follow the majority of marv, rayn and prom because they bothered about this game the most today and 2/3 are town. They will end on something reasonable.
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October 29 2013 20:44 GMT
#1502
On October 30 2013 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 30 2013 05:38 Pandain wrote:
By the way looking through Marv's posts and as for this:
On October 29 2013 20:20 marvellosity wrote:
OOHChild actually makes a decent point against him in his case.

Accuses rayn of "buddying marv"

Pandain proceeds to buddy the fuck out of marv.

But then won't power me up despite declaring me king of all townies.

It's all quite dodgy really.


Rayn "buddied"(or rather acted friendly towards) you when there were no signs of your alignment yet.
I purposely avoided giving you a read because I know you can play well as either side.

However with several extremely good points you have convinced me that you're probably town, but that still doesn't mean I'm going to activate a power on you because that is permanent and my read on you can change.



Incorrect, I need charging up for every night I use a power.

Do you really really really like the power you have?
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October 29 2013 20:45 GMT
#1506
Also last call to be a cool kid and do ##Update Koshi

Be a cool kid.
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#1508
On October 30 2013 05:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 05:44 Koshi wrote:
On October 30 2013 05:42 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 05:38 Pandain wrote:
By the way looking through Marv's posts and as for this:
On October 29 2013 20:20 marvellosity wrote:
OOHChild actually makes a decent point against him in his case.

Accuses rayn of "buddying marv"

Pandain proceeds to buddy the fuck out of marv.

But then won't power me up despite declaring me king of all townies.

It's all quite dodgy really.


Rayn "buddied"(or rather acted friendly towards) you when there were no signs of your alignment yet.
I purposely avoided giving you a read because I know you can play well as either side.

However with several extremely good points you have convinced me that you're probably town, but that still doesn't mean I'm going to activate a power on you because that is permanent and my read on you can change.



Incorrect, I need charging up for every night I use a power.

Do you really really really like the power you have?

No, it's ok. lol.

Ok remember this and never mention this again.
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October 29 2013 20:46 GMT
#1509
On October 30 2013 05:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well the nail is basically in the coffin. I hope you people reconsider what you have though about me throughout the game after I am dead, and actually make an effort of reading my reads and posts CLOSELY rather washing over them and using what fits to your scumreads of me. I feel I did my absolute best and went down swinging despite what people have repeatedly said about me.

We won thug, maybe we can do it again here.

##noregrets (exceptmaybeshowingupinthefirstplaceinsteadoflurkingallday)


Give your 3 gut read scums. For endgame cred.
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October 29 2013 20:49 GMT
#1519
On October 30 2013 05:48 strongandbig wrote:
um what does your power do

-1 your vote power.
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October 29 2013 20:51 GMT
#1529
On October 30 2013 05:49 marvellosity wrote:
Can we actually kill Clarity? I know he might not be mafia, he might be, and i'm just not happy with any of what we've got right now.

Convince Prom and I am with you. But I would go SnB/Pandain.
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October 29 2013 20:55 GMT
#1534
ok I go Clarity as well. But I would prefer SnB/Pandain. Let it be known.
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#1536
##Unvote
##Vote: Clarity_nl
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October 29 2013 20:56 GMT
#1539
No Clarity is on 4 atm. WoS is on 5. We need 2 more on Clarity.
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October 29 2013 20:56 GMT
#1542
On October 30 2013 05:56 marvellosity wrote:
You can all shout at me if he flips town, I'm a big boy. I think any lynch right now is a crapshoot, and I'd rather crapshoot a d-bag who isn't playing the game than someone I can get a read on in the future.

rayn is going to be mad.
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October 29 2013 20:59 GMT
#1556
On October 30 2013 05:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Vote is in voting thread, not ime to put it here first
Not ninja

We expect excellence tomorrow. Or we are going to have to quote your town is terrible posts from Thug Life Mafia.
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October 29 2013 21:07 GMT
#1563
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I got a nuke. I must have gotten it from counting down.

MWahahahahahaha.

Now who to nuke. We got 12 hours to decide.
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October 29 2013 21:08 GMT
#1566
On October 30 2013 06:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Oh and my countdown also gave me a nuke.

We got 2 nukes?
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October 29 2013 21:09 GMT
#1569
If rayn and marv also got a nuke this will be cool.
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October 29 2013 21:10 GMT
#1571
I knew it had to be nukes or New Year.
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October 29 2013 21:10 GMT
#1572
IT'S BOTH!
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October 29 2013 21:11 GMT
#1574
Flavor must go into flavor post :D
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October 29 2013 21:12 GMT
#1578
On October 30 2013 06:11 Seuss wrote:
Wait, I got a nuke too.

What is this game.

why the fuck did you get a nuke 0o
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October 29 2013 21:13 GMT
#1579
Also nukes will be fake except one.
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October 29 2013 21:14 GMT
#1581
Is a nuke blockable? Is is 1KP or is it a NUKE?
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October 29 2013 21:16 GMT
#1588
On October 30 2013 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 06:11 marvellosity wrote:
Um, rayn, what does your ##delegate power do exactly?...

That's what i trying to tell you by saying "consider my twerk null".. :E

Really rayn? really?
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October 29 2013 21:19 GMT
#1593
On October 30 2013 06:17 OOHCHILD wrote:
##Nuke WaveofShadow

What about his?
On October 30 2013 03:15 OOHCHILD wrote:
Seuss looks pretty transparent and town with his recent explanations. Especially for second game scum. Going back to WoS I guess. I would rather lynch Sentinel or HotCottonCandy though.

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October 29 2013 21:19 GMT
#1596
On October 30 2013 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 06:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2013 06:11 marvellosity wrote:
Um, rayn, what does your ##delegate power do exactly?...

That's what i trying to tell you by saying "consider my twerk null".. :E

So you have a sabotaging power and you used it on me

Neat.

I have two powers. One makes every number in your role go up by one. The other one does the opposite. That's what i was trying to do but i fucking messed up because the name of the power is the same barring first letter. :/

And you can only use 1?
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October 29 2013 21:20 GMT
#1598
On October 30 2013 06:19 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 06:13 Koshi wrote:
Also nukes will be fake except one.


I don't think it's a bastard game

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 06:12 Seuss wrote:
Did [UoN]Sentinel's power seriously give everyone nukes?

Holy shit.


'murica

It would be a bastard game if more than 1 nuke was real.
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October 29 2013 21:21 GMT
#1602
On October 30 2013 06:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I will be severely disappointed if mine isn't

grtz on 4k. I want to nuke on 12k
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October 29 2013 21:25 GMT
#1608
AHHHHHH I WANT TO USE MY NUKE AS WELL.

Pandain/SnB/OOHCHILD is what I am currently feeling.
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October 29 2013 21:26 GMT
#1612
It is kinda boss we counted down for something as epic as this
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October 29 2013 21:26 GMT
#1614
##Nuke Pandain
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October 29 2013 21:35 GMT
#1626
I want another nuke.
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October 29 2013 21:42 GMT
#1634
rofl
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October 30 2013 08:33 GMT
#1767
On October 30 2013 10:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
##Nuke Koshi

Noooooooooooooooo I am totes town D:
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October 30 2013 08:43 GMT
#1768
Some1 should nuke Oats. The only confirmed townie said he was scum.

YES I WENT THERE
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October 30 2013 08:48 GMT
#1769
Also, you should know I am total town because nobody wanted to ##update Koshi. Sad.
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October 30 2013 10:16 GMT
#1776
Yeah we will see tomorrow.
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October 30 2013 10:18 GMT
#1777
Now we just watch the sky.
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October 30 2013 10:44 GMT
#1788
Tsss...
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October 30 2013 10:46 GMT
#1790
You not afraid of dieing marv?
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October 30 2013 10:50 GMT
#1792
Yes. What if I am a doc. Can't I doc you? You ask me to stay away. Tss
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October 30 2013 10:55 GMT
#1795
y u no connect dots?
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October 30 2013 10:57 GMT
#1796
But we need to remain silent about this. Scummers are watching. If you connect dots let me know what to do. Use the secret word "CobraTank" so I know it is your final decision!
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October 30 2013 11:04 GMT
#1799
dat rolefishing. marv totes scum.
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October 30 2013 11:13 GMT
#1801
I got 5 peepz. Or 4. Sentinel, rayn, marv, HotCottonCandy,

I'll go see.
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October 30 2013 11:17 GMT
#1802
Only 4 people D:
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October 30 2013 11:17 GMT
#1803
See that's why I am totes not scum.
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October 30 2013 11:39 GMT
#1807
Oats got 7: Koshi, SnB, HCC, marv, Prome, Sentinel, Seuss

I see rayn lacking. Interesting.
Nothing in filters where they try to figuring each other out.
Oats defending rayn vs Pandain

Oats didn't do my Update even after:
On October 30 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
shoud I update you koshi?

Yes.

Let us remember.
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October 30 2013 11:44 GMT
#1809
Ok, that quote above is bad. The "yes" is my reply to the Oats his question.
On October 30 2013 00:13 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
shoud I update you koshi?

Yes.

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October 30 2013 11:45 GMT
#1810
I should have nuked Oats D:
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October 30 2013 12:26 GMT
#1811
On October 30 2013 20:39 OOHCHILD wrote:
I don't get what is wrong with using nukes on the scummiest people. It's like a free vig shot if even one of them works.

WaveofShadow
Pandain
[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster
Seuss
HotCottonCandy

These dudes need nuking. I think all that's left is Seuss and Oats. Someone do it!

You forgot me btw. You are clearly scum for forgetting your own scumreads.
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October 30 2013 12:41 GMT
#1820
Dandel Ion
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October 30 2013 13:32 GMT
#1830
I don't even understand it. What did I ask? About the nuke being saveable? I just asked that because scum might be able to save the nuke if we used it at night.
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October 30 2013 13:33 GMT
#1831
If it is 1KP
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October 30 2013 13:42 GMT
#1838
On October 30 2013 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 22:32 Koshi wrote:
I don't even understand it. What did I ask? About the nuke being saveable? I just asked that because scum might be able to save the nuke if we used it at night.

Why would you ask it in thread?
The way I see it, scum dont care because its unlikely that town has RB's.
Town care though.
And you apparently dont.

I still don't understand.

I asked because I wanted to know if nuke = 1 KP. So if it would be smart to save the nukes till it is day and no scum doc can save a scummer from a nuke.

Also why is it unlikely town has RB? I need a good answer to this question.
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October 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#1844
Well, I was going to ask all people to save nukes till day if that was the case...
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October 30 2013 13:45 GMT
#1845
On October 30 2013 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Town normally dont have RB's.

rofl. don't be full of shit.
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October 30 2013 13:53 GMT
#1851
On October 30 2013 22:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because scum knows. And if he is scum, he doesnt think about that aspect.

Lol koshi, show me the proportion of games with town rb's and scum rb's please.


Explain how a random nuke makes me scum and not bad Marv.

Last newbie had 2 town RB
Thug life had 2 cops with RB

I know this game has one :D
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October 30 2013 13:55 GMT
#1852
fyi I will not use my RB spell tonight. I need 5 votes for that. True story.
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October 30 2013 14:01 GMT
#1854
CobraTank?
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October 30 2013 14:15 GMT
#1862
On October 30 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
So hard to explain what im thinking.

Hm.
ok, so a townie sees that he gets a nuke. Oh wait can it be roleblocked? Let me ask the hosts through PM.

I didn't ask about RB?????

I asked if it can be saved by a doc. How did I ask if it could be RB?

On October 30 2013 06:14 Koshi wrote:
Is a nuke blockable? Is is 1KP or is it a NUKE?


Ok I see that you might think that now...

I meant "blockable by a doc" that's why I followed up with is it 1 KP or a NUKE?

Because real nukes can't be blocked by docs.
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October 30 2013 14:17 GMT
#1863
But w.e
If I die.
Kill Oats

:D

I feel Oats, Seuss scumteam suddenly.
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October 30 2013 14:24 GMT
#1882
rofl kush
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October 30 2013 14:38 GMT
#1903
Damn dat Kush meta.
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October 30 2013 14:40 GMT
#1908
Clarity was a policy lynch.
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October 30 2013 14:53 GMT
#1917
On October 30 2013 23:45 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 23:40 Koshi wrote:
Clarity was a policy lynch.

Koshi not to be mean but you are playing so poorly this game in particular
It's really the only reason I think you're town

Almost makes me think you are town. Almost!
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October 30 2013 15:00 GMT
#1925
Agree tbh.
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October 30 2013 15:14 GMT
#1932
Well, yeah, I also pondered over that. But he came back before the flip. So dnu.
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October 30 2013 15:30 GMT
#1944
On October 31 2013 00:16 marvellosity wrote:
no, Koshi was saying that rayn would be mad that i was defaulting to a policy lynch on someone who I'd thought was probably town earlier.

It's more that we lynched somebody that he said was town and that "his lynch" didn't go through.
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#1947
On October 31 2013 00:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Phone post

I am immune to nukes.
If OOH is kush I'm okay with my decision to nuke him

arffff. If the nukes are real I am going to be sad.

Use your anti missile system to save me please.
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October 30 2013 16:35 GMT
#1956
So is Oats scum?
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October 30 2013 16:57 GMT
#1970
On October 31 2013 01:45 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 01:37 Promethelax wrote:
For serious Suess, I get that those things happened but this game is about conclusions not summaries.


I'm a mathematician and an analyst. I'm trained to support my conclusions with facts/probable cause/proven theorems etc. This whole "I will post one sentence that is my conclusion and then cause a long confusing debate where no one has any idea what anyone else is thinking" thing baffles me.

But to reiterate what I said at the end of my post. I think OOHCHILD is scum, HotCottonCandy is probably scum, and Oats is looking pretty scummy as well.

So Oats is scum for nuking me? Because you had a STRONG townread on Oats before. As an analyst, don't you work with pro's and cons? After pushing red button all the pro town things Oats did are wiped away and he is scum for you now?
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October 30 2013 17:03 GMT
#1972
On October 31 2013 02:00 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 01:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 01:45 Seuss wrote:
On October 31 2013 01:37 Promethelax wrote:
For serious Suess, I get that those things happened but this game is about conclusions not summaries.


I'm a mathematician and an analyst. I'm trained to support my conclusions with facts/probable cause/proven theorems etc. This whole "I will post one sentence that is my conclusion and then cause a long confusing debate where no one has any idea what anyone else is thinking" thing baffles me.

But to reiterate what I said at the end of my post. I think OOHCHILD is scum, HotCottonCandy is probably scum, and Oats is looking pretty scummy as well.

So Oats is scum for nuking me? Because you had a STRONG townread on Oats before. As an analyst, don't you work with pro's and cons? After pushing red button all the pro town things Oats did are wiped away and he is scum for you now?


I haven't gone back to compare Oats' N1 actions with his D1 actions because I spent all my time scrutinizing OOHCHILD and HotCottonCandy. The statement on Oats was basically only considering his N1 play.

So is Oats scum?
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October 30 2013 17:23 GMT
#1990
On October 31 2013 02:20 marvellosity wrote:
Interestingly only 5 people twerked me despite me being a universal townread. You guys are super rubbish.

Who?
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October 30 2013 18:06 GMT
#2026
How did you guys catch rayn in the Mafia Championship game on TL? Because rayn would take more control of the game, which he did D1, I had him as town leader. Unless we were really on town only he would not be so easy. rayn would never be so passive is he is scum together with WoS or another scummer that was up for lynch yesterday.

I think.
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October 30 2013 18:07 GMT
#2027
^ rayn would take more control as scum.
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October 30 2013 18:08 GMT
#2030
Also. I don't want to lynch rayn based on meta. Because he gets a lot of shit as well for his meta, and the only way to step away from it, is to play more calm as town. It's unfair to force him to play superactive pushy or give him a scumread.
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October 30 2013 18:11 GMT
#2031
On October 31 2013 03:06 Koshi wrote:
How did you guys catch rayn in the Mafia Championship game on TL? Because rayn would take more control of the game, which he did D1, I had him as town leader. Unless we were really on town only he would not be so easy. rayn would never be so passive is he is scum together with WoS or another scummer that was up for lynch yesterday.

I think.

I don't know what I wrote here. 0o ignore it unless you speak Koshi.
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October 30 2013 18:26 GMT
#2043
I do agree Koshi is a genius.
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October 30 2013 18:28 GMT
#2046
Ready the defensive missiles Soldiers!

[image loading]

Missile defense is ready Commander, but we can only save one. Who do we save?



Koshi it too valuable to lose!
##Defend Koshi




NUCLEAR DEFENSE ACTIVATED, THE NUKE HAS BEEN SHOT DOWN!!!
[image loading]



+ Show Spoiler +
This is all fake, but I am giving the hosts hints.
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October 30 2013 18:47 GMT
#2071
btw rayn. You are pretty low on figuring out posts as well. Unless you are trying to read people without interacting with them. Look at you and Oats, there is nothing between you 2.
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October 30 2013 18:51 GMT
#2075
On October 31 2013 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:47 Koshi wrote:
btw rayn. You are pretty low on figuring out posts as well. Unless you are trying to read people without interacting with them. Look at you and Oats, there is nothing between you 2.

I thought Oats was town from his posts, especially from what he said about Pandain. It's useless to interact with Oats if i think he is town because it doesn't get me anywhere. I only interact with Oats when i do not think he is town or when i need him to do what i say. Otherwise it's useless.

Cool that you speak in past tense.

Evul Koshi-nuking Oats.
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October 30 2013 20:06 GMT
#2139
btw, it isn't certain that there is 3rd party. I asked the hosts. Because the OP looked like Aperture. Not because I am scum and looking for 3p.
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October 30 2013 20:08 GMT
#2141
Also if people die that have nukes going to them I think Sentinel is scum.
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October 30 2013 20:08 GMT
#2142
Like, if the nuke doesn't kill them.
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October 30 2013 20:54 GMT
#2163
If the nuke is real:

I go for Oats, Pandain, Kush for scumteam.
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October 30 2013 20:56 GMT
#2168
On October 31 2013 05:54 Koshi wrote:
If the nuke is real:

I go for Oats, Pandain, Kush for scumteam.

Maybe change Kush with rayn. Because it is almost impossible that those scummers are not noticed by rayn.
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October 30 2013 20:57 GMT
#2173
On October 31 2013 05:55 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 05:54 Koshi wrote:
If the nuke is real:

I go for Oats, Pandain, Kush for scumteam.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 05:08 Koshi wrote:
Also if people die that have nukes going to them I think Sentinel is scum.


reconcile those for me

Well, I don't think Sentinel is scum, but let's say SnB/Koshi/WoS dies tonight, then it is quite strange scum knows that the nukes going to us are fake. Or doublestack on one of us when there is marv in this game.
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October 30 2013 21:03 GMT
#2189
WoS dieing is kinda rofl.
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October 30 2013 21:04 GMT
#2197
##Update Koshi

Go for it!!!
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October 30 2013 21:09 GMT
#2207
I know flavor is flavor but it seems like the nukes are fake. If so they kinda should have made the nukes count only 12 hours.
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October 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#2215
Did WoS die by a nuke or are we not allowed to know?

Because the flavor clearly states the nukes were disarmed and that WoS was shot and not nuked.
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October 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#2219
Ohyeah now I guess we really have to filterdive WoS and see what he said.
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#2229
On October 31 2013 06:18 HotCottonCandy wrote:
oh yea, since everyone has already basically claimed did anyone ever specify having this removal of ## power? seems like something scum did to me but idk why.

Could be because I powered up every person in the game yesterday lol

It's Kush.
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October 30 2013 23:36 GMT
#2267
I am off to bed. I already said enough about my role I think. Pretty sure when I get lynched I can roleclaim.

But the answer to your question is yes, rayn. But dont use that relegate thingie on me. My stuff is bad and low priced.
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October 30 2013 23:41 GMT
#2268
Also rayn + marv. Can you both do exactly what the other guy asks. It will be a glorious day if you both decide that the other dude is town and prove it for the rest of the thread.
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October 31 2013 09:41 GMT
#2355
I think Oats/Seuss are scum I am rereading the game atm.
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October 31 2013 09:41 GMT
#2356
marv are you good with entrance posts?
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October 31 2013 09:49 GMT
#2360
Ok, you should read page 19 if you want to see 4 people enter the thread. But that's not why I think Seuss is scum.

I have been reading from page 19 till 37 and Seuss hasn't posted in the thread once after his initial post while not responding to anybody. He always responds to something said about him and that's it.

His first read post contains 3 names.
Prome who he gives a townread for interacting with him.
SnB null read.
Oats scum read.

I instantly ask him if he thinks I am town after that and he answers 'yes'

Now I am looking at all my posts after that and there is no reason for him to think I am scum. I constantly give rayn/marv/Oats/Seuss townreads. But for some reason he gives Oats a power up and not me, while he called me town and I am saying all his townreads are town.

Shit doesn't make sense.

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Koshi
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October 31 2013 09:52 GMT
#2364
I think scum might have had 2 KP this night.
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October 31 2013 09:53 GMT
#2366
I don't know how many votes Prome and Oats had, but maybe there is a vigi power up.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 09:56 GMT
#2368
Can you 2 stop being bitches towards each other? Jeez.
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October 31 2013 09:57 GMT
#2370
On October 31 2013 18:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 18:52 Koshi wrote:
I think scum might have had 2 KP this night.

???

Yeah, WoS is a cool second target if Seuss is scum.
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October 31 2013 09:57 GMT
#2371
It's 100% gut feeling.
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October 31 2013 10:08 GMT
#2376
Also WoS is a good framekill to make rayn look bad.
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October 31 2013 10:08 GMT
#2377
But I go continue read.
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October 31 2013 10:38 GMT
#2383
Seuss is 100% scum.

Look at this shit.
Page 37-57:
Page 37 he has a scumread on Oats and a townread on Koshi
In the following 20 pages I am total town, like, I don't even understand why you people don't call me the towniest fucker in the world. I made a lot of comments that got positive feedback from the thread, like my analysis on rayn got a "good" from marv, I made a decent case on Pandain that was not shot down. There really wasn't anything that Seuss saidwas bad.
Oats on the other hand did really little in these 20 pages, go look at the posts Oats made there, it is almost nothing, and it is "Oats being in your face", which is the reason Seuss didn't like him in the first place.

Then Seuss gives Oats his powerup.
I ask why:
On October 30 2013 00:07 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 00:01 Koshi wrote:
WHAT ABOUT UPDATING KOSHI

DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:


I'm only using hastags for people who I feel very confident are town. I don't have a strong read on you either way at the moment (Clarity is elitist as a reason for training him? What?), so I'm holding off.

I'm very much with marvellosity on the whole "We have a bunch of people will revealed powers, are they really all town?" question. I've got my fingers crossed that [UoN]Sentinel didn't ride the crazy train into a fully charged one-shot mafia power.

So he doesn't update me because I say clarity is an elitist in this game and would do more than just play on sentiment and sincerity?
Where does he explain why he power ups Oats? Nowhere. I asked about it N1 and he fucking didn't know how to reply.

But between me asking why there is marv power upping me:
On October 30 2013 00:02 marvellosity wrote:
##Update Koshi

There you go, twinkletoes.


So why the fuck is Seuss not powering me up?

And it's not that he isn't powering me up, it's that he feels I am scum and Oats is town while it should be the other way around for him.


Also Seuss is not allowed to play the fucking newbie card anymore if he is this confident in his read on me and his read on Oats.

And he says it was a mistake to power up Oats on N2 only because I pressed him and he can't explain his actions.


DO NOT NUKE SEUSS. LYNCH HIM. OR GIVE ME VERY GOOD REASONS WHY HE IS TOWN.

protip: there aren't.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 10:39 GMT
#2384
##vote Seuss
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#2386
On October 31 2013 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, normally I think your cases are the worst things I ever set eyes on, but that seems to make some sense. I'll filter him a little later with what you've just said in mind.

Have you thought about how Seuss dealt with his voting power/counterclaim with WoS/surrounding stuff with that?

No I am on page 57 atm and there is a burning and madenning tunnel inside me. And I already said I found it strange that he counterclaims WoS while he should have counterclaimed Pandain earlier as well. Or at least connected the dots while he was counterclaiming WoS.

I tell you. He wanted to get WoS lynched pregame and he went for it there.
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October 31 2013 10:55 GMT
#2389
Really nobody cares anymore about WoS because he gave Seuss a townread while Seuss is obvious scum.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 10:58 GMT
#2392
They can both remove votes atm. It's so fucking sick if they are both scum...... Fuck.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 11:00 GMT
#2394
yes that is perfect.
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October 31 2013 11:06 GMT
#2397
On October 31 2013 20:01 marvellosity wrote:
Just from a game setup perspective, it makes sense to have 2 vote altering powers on townside and 1 on mafia. 2 for mafia seems pretty sick.

Yeah if they hold that a secret it can be lylo really fast without us noticing.

Pandain is town for not keeping it a secret if Seuss is scum with him. Casually dropping that power makes him town atm. I need to look who made that case on Pandain saying it is scummy.

2 scum with vote power altering is close to impossible.
3 town with vote power altering is possible because town loves to lynch in that kinda shit. However, WoS NK could be for this reason....
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October 31 2013 11:48 GMT
#2398
So this is how the thread went.

rayn makes scumcase on WoS --> votes WoS
marv votes WoS
Prome makes case on WoS
Everybody and their mother think WoS is scum. (Marv even pressures Seuss into voting WoS because Seuss 180 on WoS, Seuss replies that he thinks WoS lynch is not bad)

WoS claims
Thread doesn't know anymore

Seuss CC on WoS and is pretty sure WoS is scum now.
Thread believes this and new votes pile on WoS.

On October 30 2013 02:04 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 01:53 Seuss wrote:
On October 30 2013 01:49 Promethelax wrote:
find scum > defend self, fool


This is something I've been struggling with this game.

I'm having the opposite problem, I'm finding more people suspicious than usual. Curious that you're struggling to make any better vote than a policy vote.


To elaborate, you guys move a lot faster than I've been prepared for and I've been struggling to keep up. Combined with a fair amount of scrutiny I've spent more than defending myself and reading then hunting scum.

So let me do something important here.

##Encourage marvellosity

Astute eyes probably picked up on the fact that I had a power from one of my most scrutinized posts. At one point I incorrectly assumed that everyone had powers. It's a basic logical step.

I'm counter-claiming WaveofShadow here somewhat. My power adds +1 to a player's vote. Given that Pandain can allegedly nullify someone's vote entirely it's not complete madness to think there are multiple voting powers around, but WaveofShadow's is too close to mine for me to be comfortable with it.



On October 30 2013 02:50 Seuss wrote:
I would like to prospose, so long as Wave doesn't continue his suicidal streak, that we arrange for a test of our voting powers, and lynch [UoN]Sentinel pending verification of said powers in tonight's vote.

I've selected [UoN]Sentinel for a few reasons. To summarize, he's obtained a power that he allegedly can't explain, when everyone else seems to have a clear understanding of their powers. He's defended his evasiveness on the grounds that he thought people would second guess themselves if his power didn't activate, when people started second guessing themselves because no one knows what his power does. Finally, he doesn't think he can be useful D1 because he "doesn't know how" when I, on my second game, am at least trying.

I'd like to first draw attention to these two consecutive posts from him:


Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Yeah sure why not. I do like to twerk, and I'd rather cater to marv than koshi, who seems to have disappeared.

##Twerk marvellosity

Anyways. I have a power that I would like some people to help me charge up.

##15

Here's the gameplan. To charge up my power, someone, anyone, posts ##14, then someone else does ##13 and so on. When we get to ##1 the power is charged and ready to use :D. You can post multiple numbers in the countdown but not consecutive ones. So you can do 14 and 12, but not 14 and 13.

Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 07:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Yeah sure why not. I do like to twerk, and I'd rather cater to marv than koshi, who seems to have disappeared.

wtf is this reasoning?


KOSHI DIDN'T ANSWER WHAT UPDATE DOES.

marv at least left it ambiguously pleasant.


[UoN]Sentinel's reasoning here is fine regarding Koshi and marvellosity, except he himself has yet to give any assurances his power is useful or good.

What followed was the reckless explosion of hashtags that set me off at the start of the thread. In the earliest part of the game where scum/town reads are about as accurate as a drunk man playing "Probably Archery", [UoN]Sentinel's power got charged thoughtlessly. This event has kept him, Koshi, and raynpelikoneet on my radar, because I view it as criminally careless at best.

Thereafter [UoN]Sentinel dithered on actually telling anyone what his power allegedly would do:

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 28 2013 07:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I wonder if the hosts got my message. Don't want to give away my power if the countdown duds because something was wrong with the sequencing. Knowing the hosts, someone should be up and attending this game, but they might be asleep.

We'll see.

On October 28 2013 08:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
No idea if hosts are away/busy or something wasn't sent in properly. I'm hoping it's the first.

I don't think Pandain's doing anything serious, just pressuring for information. Otherwise it looks like a really shitty self-justifying case.

On October 28 2013 23:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Phone posting from school, up to page 30

Here is what I can say right now

I've been pretty casual this whole game, down to making puns before game start. My absence is a combination of sleep and my phone freezing.

I already breadcrumbed everything I know about my power, but I still want to figure out where the hosts are before making a decision.


This is scummy play. Having said nothing about what his power does, he continues to leave everyone in the dark. We still don't know what it does even as I type this, despite many instances of mod presence in the thread. I won't iterate over every instance of his evasiveness, as I think the point has been made.

Moving on, I personally found this post rather odd:

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 19:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On October 29 2013 19:27 Promethelax wrote:
On October 29 2013 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 19:10 Promethelax wrote:
Marv, I want your thoughts on ooh. You used to believe in a change in passion between pregame and game to be indicative of something. Not any more?

Could well be, still. It's hard to tell because it's not just a change in passion, it's basically not playing at all. It's tempting to kill him out of spite alone. I think he's a great backup lynch.


Would you use your wonderful sway over people to endorse the but about powering me up? If they do that I'll switch my vote onto clarity. ##logic

Sent: if you had no idea about what your power did than why did you not work to do anything in the thread?


I've never done anything useful D1 because I never figured out how to be useful. My plan has always been to sit there, nod along, wait until D2 and then start making good reads.


This is my second game of TL mafia ever, and while I've been struggling I'd like to think that I've at least been useful at times. What I'm trying to do right now is correct a fairly serious error, rather than throwing my hands up in the air as if there's nothing to be done because it's D1. [UoN]Sentinel's position here works against the town, rather than for it.

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 20:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On October 29 2013 20:22 Koshi wrote:
I am working and have been typing the above up in the last 3 hours.... Lots of shizzle happened in between.

##Twerk

Still in consideration if I will do the thing for Prom. Probably will do all the powers.

Not amused by Sentinel thingie not going through. I do not understand the secrecy and the "breadcrumbing". rayn said that it was already strange that Sentinel was so excited about his power when we were counting down, then he was already a lot less excited and unwilling to use it when we reached 0 and went AWOL after we reached 0. I wanted to give him a pass because the power and now it seems like the multiple posts he made about it were just hidden messages that it did nothing??? Why not tell the thread straight? Probably because scum and didn't know how else to participate.

Sentinel is on the VERY scummy side of things now and I am suggesting him as a policy lynch over OOHCHILD.

I'll sheep marv on Clarity first. Where the fuck is he? I expect high quality from Town Clarity because in both voice and forum mafia he always provided that.


I explained it multiple times. I didn't want it to dud after I revealed it if it turned out we did the countdown wrong or something and have everyone second guessing their involvement.


There's also this post which caught my attention:

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 20:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On October 29 2013 20:22 Koshi wrote:
I am working and have been typing the above up in the last 3 hours.... Lots of shizzle happened in between.

##Twerk

Still in consideration if I will do the thing for Prom. Probably will do all the powers.

Not amused by Sentinel thingie not going through. I do not understand the secrecy and the "breadcrumbing". rayn said that it was already strange that Sentinel was so excited about his power when we were counting down, then he was already a lot less excited and unwilling to use it when we reached 0 and went AWOL after we reached 0. I wanted to give him a pass because the power and now it seems like the multiple posts he made about it were just hidden messages that it did nothing??? Why not tell the thread straight? Probably because scum and didn't know how else to participate.

Sentinel is on the VERY scummy side of things now and I am suggesting him as a policy lynch over OOHCHILD.

I'll sheep marv on Clarity first. Where the fuck is he? I expect high quality from Town Clarity because in both voice and forum mafia he always provided that.


I explained it multiple times. I didn't want it to dud after I revealed it if it turned out we did the countdown wrong or something and have everyone second guessing their involvement.


I don't find [UoN]Sentinel's defense here reasonable. Whether or not his power successfully activated is something of a sideshow to what his power is actually supposed to do. But he's hung up on the possibility the countdown was a "dud" and what that will mean when people were already second guessing because the end result of the glorious countdown wasn't a cool power but a dithering, sheepish poster.

I do not know how long Seuss worked on that Sentinel case. But let's be realistic it must be around 20 minutes?

So even though thinking WoS is scum before WoS claiming, thinking WoS is even more scum after claiming. Seuss makes a case on Sentinel 20-30 minutes after he CC and nailed WoS. Because that is how that CC felt.

And does it feel like Seuss believes that Sentinel is really really scum? I don't see it.
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October 31 2013 11:53 GMT
#2399
Above case is about pointing out that Seuss is not having strong feelings towards people being scum based on his own findings. How can he think Sentinel is a better lynch after all that has been said about WoS and then Seuss CCing WoS? And even if WoS is not lieing about his vote, (which is pretty duhhh), what will his experience proof? "oh look, WoS also has an extra +vote, he must be town now"
Seuss is implying that if WoS didn't lie about his role than WoS is town? Why wouldn't WoS be the scum vote alterer? It simply doesn't make sense how Seuss is thinking.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 11:56 GMT
#2400
It doesn't make sense about Koshi scum / Oats town.
It doesn't make sense around WoS

After the nukes Seuss said
"here goes my case against Sentinel"

As if all of us getting nukes changes the fact that Sentinel is scum. What did Seuss base his Sentinel case on? Only that nothing happened?
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October 31 2013 11:58 GMT
#2402
I totes ninjad marv.
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October 31 2013 13:42 GMT
#2412
Do we think Nuke killed WoS?
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October 31 2013 13:42 GMT
#2413
Oats how do you know all nukes are fake?
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October 31 2013 13:42 GMT
#2414
scumslip?
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October 31 2013 13:46 GMT
#2415
I also don't get it. SnB is scum for not following up on that? That's all?
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 13:50 GMT
#2418
On October 31 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
Do we think Nuke killed WoS?

Given the flavour, I guess all nukes were fake.

I completely agree. But how did scum know that? Why go for the double stack on WoS. Nuke + NK. That when there are way more townier people than WoS.

The entire WoS kill smells like a big attempt to frame somebody. rayn, Sentinel w.e
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 13:51 GMT
#2419
Or there is an SK, but he should have buried his shot in SnB.
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October 31 2013 13:53 GMT
#2421
Hmm. Yeah I also thought they were fake bar 1. Maybe rayn because I believe his role name.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 13:55 GMT
#2422
But then both sentinel and rayn have to be town tbh.
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October 31 2013 13:56 GMT
#2424
It's Thursday and Kush promised us fireworks. I think he can prove his townyness. If not. Sure.
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October 31 2013 14:19 GMT
#2426
Hmm it was Kush who wanted to vote Seuss the entire time but then swapped because Seuss counterclaimed WoS.

On October 30 2013 01:36 OOHCHILD wrote:
Popping in to say I hate the WoS lynch. It feels like the only reason why are lynching him is because he isn't here.

I'm letting Pandain go.
Im letting Marv go (don't see what is so town about him though)

I would lynch Seuss, HotCottonCandy, or Sentinel.


On October 30 2013 01:50 OOHCHILD wrote:
Let's CFD Seuss or HotCottonCandy.
I'm voting for Seuss now because more people have expressed interest in lynching him.

On October 30 2013 02:32 OOHCHILD wrote:
Seuss over WoS please.

All else being equal, you lynch the weaker player so that you can benefit from the insight of the better player.
In this case Seuss is the weaker player.

I read Seuss' analysis he posted in some quick chat about some random game. He is not thinking nearly as deep in this game as he was thinking in that analysis.

WoS voting for himself. You may not like it but it's honest. He is honest about not knowing who to lynch and that leans town.

On October 30 2013 02:39 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 02:36 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 02:36 OOHCHILD wrote:
I can see town placing a placeholder vote on me yesterday. I was acting weird. Also I think it's less likely that scum would actually call it a placeholder vote.

Why do you think Seuss would effectively counterclaim in that situation as mafia do you think?

This is actually a very good point. Changing my vote to WoS.


Also this is totes scum Kush meta for wanting to be right. On Clarity, WoS and Seuss (yes Seuss is confirmed scum)
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October 31 2013 14:29 GMT
#2428
But a lot doesn't make sense though.
Why the townread on Clarity as scum?
Why reveal being Kush as scum?
Why so controversial as scum?
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#2434
On October 31 2013 23:33 strongandbig wrote:
In conclusion: Sentinel could very well be scum, and I would say he's higher on my scummy list than many others in this game, but I'm far from convinced.

What an awesome conclusion in a game with 8 towns and 3 scums.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 14:43 GMT
#2436
Can you give me a top 3 SnB?
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October 31 2013 15:14 GMT
#2456
... Really... Seuss is replaced...
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October 31 2013 15:23 GMT
#2463
On November 01 2013 00:22 marvellosity wrote:
This replacement is infuriating, it's come at an even worse time than usual replacements. Seuss had a whole load of stuff to answer, and Onegu simply can't answer for him on the issue. It's so depressing.

I am disgusted by it tbh.
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October 31 2013 15:28 GMT
#2466
I am not willing to let Seuss live another 100 hours for a nuke that may or may not fall.
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#2468
Yeah I already said that somewhere :d
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October 31 2013 15:31 GMT
#2470
Forgot to explain it though.
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October 31 2013 17:01 GMT
#2512
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.
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October 31 2013 17:15 GMT
#2515
On November 01 2013 02:09 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.


Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho.

I have troubles believing rayn is scum. There are sentences I think he wouldn't use as scum.

Oats I can totally lynch. I believe he is scum with Seuss. There are connections I simply can't ignore, and in the case Seuss is town he has a scumread on Oats so lynching Oats is fine. Also Clarity must really have believed in that Oats case so...

Sentinel I don't know. I don't understand why 3p will use it's power so fast and what his wincon is.

Pandain... You think he is scum now? Same level of confidence as your scumread on him in Thug life? Because rayn thinks he is town strangely enough.
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October 31 2013 17:16 GMT
#2516
I don't believe Pandain and Seuss are scum together btw. That makes 0 sense.
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October 31 2013 17:21 GMT
#2518
Also it was WoS who said that Oats was too blendy this game?
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October 31 2013 17:41 GMT
#2520
On November 01 2013 02:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:09 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.


Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho.

I have troubles believing rayn is scum. There are sentences I think he wouldn't use as scum.

Oats I can totally lynch. I believe he is scum with Seuss. There are connections I simply can't ignore, and in the case Seuss is town he has a scumread on Oats so lynching Oats is fine. Also Clarity must really have believed in that Oats case so...

Sentinel I don't know. I don't understand why 3p will use it's power so fast and what his wincon is.

Pandain... You think he is scum now? Same level of confidence as your scumread on him in Thug life? Because rayn thinks he is town strangely enough.

Could you give some examples and also explain why you think he wouldn't say them as mafia?

Yeah... Hard to find them. I can't really quote them now and explain it.
But I think rayn will prove himself.

And the reasons why you people say rayn is scum are pure meta. Give me examples where he is hardpushing bad lynches? His case on WoS was honest and not bad. You said so yourself instantly after he made it marv, you sheeped him.

Sure, I though he would be mad after he came back and Clarity flipped town, (and I think he would flip town because I believe in Clarity his sincerity and honesty about not being scum, but WoS was also not looking scummy anymore and I wanted a switch), and then his lynch WoS wasn't going through. Just like in previous games in which he was mad then. But he came back before lynch and felt THE EXACT SAME THING WE ALL FELT, which was don't lynch WoS. So that isn't scummy at all and I don't understand why you want rayn to be a pushy fucker that only wants his lynch to go through or you give him a scumread...
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 18:18 GMT
#2524
On November 01 2013 02:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:41 Koshi wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:21 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:09 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote:
On October 31 2013 09:59 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I honestly don't see anything egregious about Seuss' posting that makes me want to lynch him before a lot of other people. He just seems unsure of himself, I don't think that is scummy. Would scum purposely be that wishy-washy and avoid "important" discussion as you put it? I think that is more person indicative and not alignment.

You still stand by this HCC? Because if Seuss is town, he must have been extremely clueless this game. There was nothing in his filter about that, it was all "I am a mathematician and an analyst, I know precisely what I am doing".

You think I am over thinking his actions in my cases on him?
Like his behavior around Oats/Me, Sentinel/WoS?



@Oats
You didn't say anything about my cases on Seuss. At least Kush was honest. You don't have to spare my feelings.


Yea I still think it's true but getting rid of null people isn't a worst case scenario, especially a replacement. If you guys want to change your mind and lynch anyone of sent/rayn/pandain/oats I would gladly do it tho.

I have troubles believing rayn is scum. There are sentences I think he wouldn't use as scum.

Oats I can totally lynch. I believe he is scum with Seuss. There are connections I simply can't ignore, and in the case Seuss is town he has a scumread on Oats so lynching Oats is fine. Also Clarity must really have believed in that Oats case so...

Sentinel I don't know. I don't understand why 3p will use it's power so fast and what his wincon is.

Pandain... You think he is scum now? Same level of confidence as your scumread on him in Thug life? Because rayn thinks he is town strangely enough.

Could you give some examples and also explain why you think he wouldn't say them as mafia?

Yeah... Hard to find them. I can't really quote them now and explain it.
But I think rayn will prove himself.


And the reasons why you people say rayn is scum are pure meta. Give me examples where he is hardpushing bad lynches? His case on WoS was honest and not bad. You said so yourself instantly after he made it marv, you sheeped him.

Sure, I though he would be mad after he came back and Clarity flipped town, (and I think he would flip town because I believe in Clarity his sincerity and honesty about not being scum, but WoS was also not looking scummy anymore and I wanted a switch), and then his lynch WoS wasn't going through. Just like in previous games in which he was mad then. But he came back before lynch and felt THE EXACT SAME THING WE ALL FELT, which was don't lynch WoS. So that isn't scummy at all and I don't understand why you want rayn to be a pushy fucker that only wants his lynch to go through or you give him a scumread...

This isn't very useful, you have insight into his alignment and I want to know what it is, "can't find them" and "he'll prove himself" isn't any insight that helps me at all.

Yes, I know. It's a bit sad. But I trust rayn to come here and make sure you know that he is town and otherwise we lynch.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 18:18 GMT
#2525
On November 01 2013 03:11 OOHCHILD wrote:
i am willing to concede its been possible ive been acting like a dumbass

we waiting on dem fireworks.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 19:01 GMT
#2529
We are not lynching somebody who might be 3p or town. Is sentinel scum? The answer is not certain.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 20:24 GMT
#2532
Can you make a fucking case?
There is no argument against sentinel scum as well.

It's odds. Some people look scummier than others...
Everybody can be scum.
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Koshi
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October 31 2013 22:47 GMT
#2548
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 05:56 strongandbig wrote:
yeah if people are telling the truths about their powers then clarity gets lynched i think

I forget where this came about, what was the reasoning for clarity having to be scum based on powers. It was that town couldn't have all three powers, right? No? Like WoS/Me/Clarity. But I thought he was suspicious of WoS?


WoS/Pandain/Seuss have altering vote powers.
SnB meant that with 2 people giving marv an extra vote and you removing his vote that Clarity was lynched.


Just saying this to clarify. I have read your case but I don't know yet if I find it convincing enough for myself. But I am tired and will think harder about it tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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October 31 2013 23:04 GMT
#2560
...
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 00:15 GMT
#2595
On November 01 2013 09:10 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2013 09:08 Pandain wrote:
Rayn isn't going to be lynched.
Don't think you should be focusing on him Oats

we got like 32 hours, chill out.


I'm pretty chill right now although apparently no one agrees with me about SnB which I don't know how to feel.

I just think you have better use of your 32 hours then to even inititial vote Rayn

How do you feel about 3 town vote alterers? Set-up wise.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 00:16 GMT
#2598
On November 01 2013 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2013 09:09 marvellosity wrote:
Don't ignore me please Oats, thanks.

i quoted that post.

what??

He gave me an Update because he agreed.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 00:24 GMT
#2606
rayn is like exactly where I am. Like on the exact same spot.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 00:25 GMT
#2607
But we shouldn't nuke Seuss. Lynch him is better. We need to lynch the scummiest scummer and then trow nukes on the lesser scummy scummers.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 01:18 GMT
#2611
This nuke made sure you are not getting lynched Oats. Dont cry. It's probably not real. We go after Seuss today.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 11:49 GMT
#2870
Koshi is here as well. Still think we should lynch Seuss over Pandain. But meh.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 11:50 GMT
#2871
##Twerk
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 11:51 GMT
#2872
Also, I think all blues should somewhere before N2 breadcrumb there role.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 11:52 GMT
#2874
Because I think out of the 4 power ups we got
doclike
coplike
vetlike
scumlike
roles.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:08 GMT
#2881
Well, I am pretty sure we will all be superunimpressed by Onegu and just lynch him. We are way many hours in this day and he still hasn't contributed anything except that he is reading the thread. And I wonder which cases he read against Seuss that were made before N1. I'll be around till deadline so I will grill him when I see him.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:12 GMT
#2883
Doesn't matter. I am not willing to let Onegu slide. After Onegu I can come up with another one 72 hours later.
Because Onegu is just waiting and waiting and waiting and will then contribute a couple hours before lynch so we don't lynch him.

Fuck that.

On November 01 2013 18:18 Onegu wrote:
Koshi has been sheeping alot and just asking for powerups day one. Really dont like that from him. Also I am more than 30 pages back I cannot add : / Im in the middle of night 1 with nukes flying everywhere.

I can also tell you that in recent games Onegu said the exact opposite about my D1 play.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:13 GMT
#2885
Awesome. Don't forget to fulle roleclaim. Name and all.
Why not do that tis instant?

Thanks!
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:19 GMT
#2888
wtf you want me to do? The guy is scum, I am not scum. I will laugh hard because it seems my case will be up first. I made a case against Seuss that was fucking perfect. I am not saying a bad townie can't act like Seuss did but I DO NO BELIEVE he was that kind of bad. Seuss had no strong feelings this game at all. Should NEVER have thought I was scum and Oats town from page 37 to 59. Shit like that is not possible.

When Seuss flips red, which I am quite confident in he will, like, my case is 100% legit. Even if I am scum, this is the best case I ever wrote ever.

So instead of asking me to look at other players, why don't you explain to me that what Seuss did was towny, or how big the chance was that Seuss is town?

Because after Seuss flips red I know some other guys that can flip red after. And my case on Seuss is not based on association. NOT A SINGLE POINT.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:26 GMT
#2890
Tell me how Seuss could think Oats was a supertownread and I was a scumread if on page 37 it was the other way around.

Tell me how Seuss felt so strongly about WoS being scum, CC him and even felt more strongly that WoS was scum and then 20 minutes after CC makes a GIANT case on Sentinel that became null and void because people got nukes.

Tell me how he needed 2 hours to waffle around Oats when I pointed him on the fact he should never have a townread on Oats. He told me back then that it was because Oats made towny posts. SHOW THEM TO ME. They are not there.


So before you fucking ask me to do shit. Talk to me about the case I made and put a lot of energy in making. Because I make a case that you don't discuss with me, but instead ask me to make more cases that you then will discuss with me? Why not prove to me Seuss isn't scum?

And don't tell me we should wait on Onegu. Because my case on Seuss has NOTHING to do with Onegu. Hosts/Seuss/Jeebus made sure that I can't build further on my read on Seuss. So it is up to you people to tell me if I am wrong.

Otherwise, I stay the fuck on Seuss till I die or he dies. I am confident in that read.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:27 GMT
#2891
On November 01 2013 21:21 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 21:13 Koshi wrote:
Awesome. Don't forget to fulle roleclaim. Name and all.
Why not do that tis instant?

Thanks!

I can give or subtract a vote each day, but if I give one the next day I have to subtract one or do nothing. And what does it matter my role name?

It has to do with Kush. Why not give it to us? Other people already did.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:33 GMT
#2894
Like I don't get an update because I said Clarity is an elitist? Marv said the same fucking thing, that's why everybody was mad.

Oats gets a powerup without reasoning, while on page 37 he said Oats is scum and never said anything to contradict that statement in between. Then early N1 Seuss writes some big summary of the last 24 hours and concludes with something on Oats nobody even knows what it means, even though Oats was a STRONG townread for Seuss when he powered him up. I pressure Seuss, Seuss freezes, Seuss says a ton of shit, Seuss concludes that he didn't know what he was thinking when he powered Oats up....

Fuck it.
I am on Seuss.
Till one of us dies.

It's that easy.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:35 GMT
#2896
Town and possible scum.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:35 GMT
#2897
CONNECTIONS!
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:38 GMT
#2899
You want to know how I think atm?

Pandain: Can't be scum with Seuss. 2 scum alterers is insane.

Prome: Was the guy who interacted with Seuss when Seuss entered the thread on page 19. Without Prome I don't even know what Seuss would have said because except for Seuss his opening post he ALWAYS replied to somebody asking something about him.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:40 GMT
#2900
Oats: I am leaning town atm because Seuss just made the mistake he forgot he was faking a scumread on Oats.

Oats/Prom: One of them is the scum power gatherer. If one of them flips the other one is scum. This is even the case without any connection to Seuss

SnB: Probably town, I doubt Seuss will use 2 scummers in the first 3 reads he had.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:42 GMT
#2901
So yeah, rayn. Unless you give 101% guarantee that Pandain is scum, call me honey and promise you would never lie to me, I am on Seuss for scum.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:47 GMT
#2906
On November 01 2013 21:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why Koshi? Why cant me and prome both be town?

marv is town
Koshi is town
Oats is ???
Prome is ???

marv got 5 power ups.
Koshi got 4 power ups.
Oats got 7 power us.
Prome got ??? (I didn't count) power ups but it is going to be a lot.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:50 GMT
#2908
Also 6/7 votes could be the vigi shot for scum. Or something else big. So that 10 vs 3 with 2 town vote alterers is balanced.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 12:57 GMT
#2911
Did you just figure out that what I am saying makes sense and are you starting to push town into lynching Prome?
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:05 GMT
#2918
On November 01 2013 22:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2013 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2013 21:50 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 02:49 Seuss wrote:
Going back through the first day for Oats, he really embodies what's been annoying me all game. He's something of a bully, spending most of his time pushing people around while generally avoiding questions himself. There's a smattering of posts which involve effort/fair argument, but his signal to noise ratio is bad. He's also second only to Koshi in terms of random power-begging.

I think in the end of the day mad rush I gave him more credit than he deserved, and weighted the meta rebuffs I'd received too heavily. Maybe I'm just jealous, but he got to dance around all of day 1 while I and others got grilled. I don't like that, and I don't like that I really don't know where he stands on anyone at the moment.

Combined with his N1 actions, I'm sticking with my scum read. I regret having powered him up.

I am conflicted about this post because on the other hand it's a total 180 on Oats for idk what reason and it contradicts his behavior regarding Oats on D1.
On the other hand the second paragraph is exactly my thoughts on Oats on N1 and after that. :E

The 2nd paragraph says nothing.

Literally you're saying "he has the exact same thoughts in 2nd paragraph"

Literally his only thought in the 2nde paragraph is "I don't know where he stands at the moment"

This is not a townie nor a mafia thing to say, it provides nothing of any interest other than an extremely brief summary of what Oats did on N1.

I know it says nothing. It doesn't change the fact that i thought the same, and still do, because Oats hasn't done shit. And his nuke on Koshi was so horribly reasoned i don't even know what to say..

It means im town dummy.

You tunneled Pandain on D1. Then out of nowhere you did nuke Koshi. Then you laid out 6 reads who were "not town but not sure". That's not town!Oats.

Lol. Actually that is town oats. Not the laid out 6 reads thing, but that was me ordering my mind and getting back into the game after like a day of not really doing anything.

In which Seuss changed the read on you from scum to town. Yeah indeed.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:19 GMT
#2925
:D
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:19 GMT
#2927
My only concern is that Pandain calls me scummy and is setting up my misslynch.

But Onegu is doing the same thing so they can both die.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:33 GMT
#2929
Call me crazy but I think that Prome only got 5 guys doing yolo and then he asked people to stop, which is somehwat strange knowing my role pm. Even if my best thing is on 5.

How the fuck did Oats get 7?
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:33 GMT
#2930
w.e I don't care. It's for tomorrow.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:33 GMT
#2931
Also Oats nuked me because I was on Seuss his ass this game. That's the real reason.

But it's all for tomorrow.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:36 GMT
#2932
Marv are you sure that Seuss and VA can't be scum together?
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:36 GMT
#2933
Somewhere I feel Oats/Seuss/VA
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:36 GMT
#2935
But on VA there are only little feels.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:38 GMT
#2936
Nha nvm. Ignore VA. See that's why I don't want to discuss others.

Seuss first.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:39 GMT
#2941
On November 01 2013 22:36 Onegu wrote:
Jeez this case is large and I am writeing it on a tablet so its takeing longer than I thought but is comeing and we should lynch koshi.

Well I hope that the case on me isn't the only thing you will do. Unless it is really, really good. Which is unlikely. But possible. Who knows what I said?
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:41 GMT
#2943
Yes, that is unreadable. But I read the last line and if this comes down on Koshi/marv scumteam I will be amused.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:54 GMT
#2959
1) Yes, like I said to Prome when he discussed that later. That post was about defending myself and not pushing Prom. I didn't like him because he misunderstood the conversation between Oats and me. And then used that to say I was scum 2-4 times in the thread.

2) Yes, he gave me a townread and I like it. It was all casual from him. Gutread on Pandain!

3) Tssss. Don't forget I am Koshi. It wasn't that bad btw.

4) Game felt like there was balance after the first 24 hours of D1. I made a cool summary of what should happen. Partly joking, partly being awesome.

5) Marv totes town. The rest has to do with the CobraTank.

6) I am totes town. But rayn not easy to read this game. Currently he is in the scummy part of nulls because he doesn't want to interact with me around Seuss.

7) I am kinda not being sheepy sheep right now. You might have noticed. But I had no problem with sheeping D1. Is it scummy to say I am sheeping 24/7?

8 - 10) I could post the Jaedong jumpy sheep here. But I am no EG fan.

11) Marv totes town yo!
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 13:57 GMT
#2961
On November 01 2013 22:54 Onegu wrote:
This seems much more like a persona 4 koshi scum game than one of his town games to me.

I was town there. Oo
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:02 GMT
#2963
Till the end. I don't die as anti town.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:02 GMT
#2964
Pretty sure next time I roll scum I will fall through the basket pretty fast. But maybe not. Who knows?
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:04 GMT
#2966
Jeez. I go look.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:06 GMT
#2968
On November 01 2013 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
That didn't answer my question. How many cycles?

It ended N4.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:07 GMT
#2969
On November 01 2013 23:04 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 23:02 Koshi wrote:
Till the end. I don't die as anti town.

Yeah and I was the only person that game to have you as scum most of the game.

True true. So let's hope you are scum this game so you can still be an impressive Koshi hunter.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:09 GMT
#2970
So how about those answers Onegu? Not happy about it?

I think if your time is limited you should address the case I made on Seuss.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:18 GMT
#2975
On November 01 2013 23:13 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 23:09 Koshi wrote:
So how about those answers Onegu? Not happy about it?

I think if your time is limited you should address the case I made on Seuss.

Meh, and seuss looked terrible, no idea what he was thinking so no reason for me to address the case. If you want to go after my play fine, if you want want to attck seuss play fine, but like seuss cannot respond to my play, I dont know what he was thinking so I cannot respond to his thinking also.

My point being. Am I being a good towny by making that case or am I trying to get an easy misslynch. You say I am scum, did I just found the perfect target as scum to push? Or is my case really bad?

You know. Stuff like that.

Because you are quite confident in reading me. As town and as scum. That confidence is lacking. But on the other hand, I find it interesting that you go 1v1 against me, the guy that made a case on Seuss, which from above reply seems like you agree with.

So what is it that is so different about Koshi this game? I sheep? I don't like Prom because he said I am scum for bad reasons? I gave Pandain a townread? I give marv a townread?

What is it? A total package? You know I am scum 100%?

Because you need to prove that to the thread, and I am here watching/replying till deadline.


imo best thing for town Onegu to do atm is give reads on everybody. Like really good stuff. Because when you flip town will know what you thought.

Or really convince everybody I am scum.

freebie tip:
I am town.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:21 GMT
#2976
Like, gief reads about Oats, HotCottonCandy (VA), OOHCHILD (Kush), Promethelax and rayn.

They interest me atm.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:30 GMT
#2978
Like how bad did he look? Because you realize this but still try to lynch me?

Why not give reads on everybody instead? Why solely go after me? I am not an easy target because I am here when it is a workday... Am I that scummy to you?

I am annoyed if you are town and you misread me like this Mr. Onegu.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:33 GMT
#2980
hahaha about what is Kush wrong? He has been right on every flip.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:34 GMT
#2982
oh wait. WoS. I guess. nvm.
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November 01 2013 14:38 GMT
#2986
On November 01 2013 23:36 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 23:30 Koshi wrote:
Like how bad did he look? Because you realize this but still try to lynch me?

Why not give reads on everybody instead? Why solely go after me? I am not an easy target because I am here when it is a workday... Am I that scummy to you?

I am annoyed if you are town and you misread me like this Mr. Onegu.



I am still 30 pages behind the thread, I didnt even know you made a case on seuss. I am running out of time so I am mostly going on my gut at this point, you were the first player I felt a problem with so I started on you first. I have plenty of time to read but getting everything done on a tablet is difficult. So I am picking out what I can and going with that.

But your gut has not giving us many reads.

You like VA his posts
You meta Kush into town
You are uncertain about marv,Prom, rayn and Oats

Koshi is scum
_______

That's all you gave us man.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:39 GMT
#2989
While only the Koshi is scum case was explained.

But I am town...
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November 01 2013 14:44 GMT
#2995
Also, if people (SnB) could do.

##Update Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:46 GMT
#2997
On November 01 2013 23:44 Onegu wrote:
Also seuss lied about his claim and I have no idea why or maybe he just got it wrong or forgot.


Its


##Admonish Koshi

He said discourage... No idea why.

So he can be sneaky and pretend to do a minus vote when he didn't.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:46 GMT
#2998
But w.e
My voting power is gone.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 14:46 GMT
#2999
It does feel like GoT suddenly.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 16:41 GMT
#3011
Yeah, not much going on...
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November 01 2013 16:45 GMT
#3016
The lack of power ups is also quite mehhhhhhhhh. Gief Koshi Updates all. Also gief marv.

Only give your townread out of Oats/Prome
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 16:48 GMT
#3020
I already gave away that my best is RB on 5. And somewhere I said I can do it on people that update me.
I will reveal that 2 votes let me Mason one of those 2.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 17:17 GMT
#3033
Pandain
Is it only at the last vote count that it shows that I lost my voting power?
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 17:18 GMT
#3034
I think I read that somewhere.
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November 01 2013 17:20 GMT
#3039
After Seuss flips scum I got the answers. It will be glorious.
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November 01 2013 17:21 GMT
#3040
Prome might be a big part of the answers. So I hope he comes back.
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November 01 2013 17:42 GMT
#3055
On November 02 2013 02:21 Pandain wrote:
I think SnB and Kush are scum.

Third could be one of Vayne, Sentinel, or Seuss.

##Upbraid strongandbig

Is there a rule that you have to use that? The guy didn't vote yet, why do you remove the chance for us to figure out what he will do? So bad.


And you think all the power up guys are town? Nah.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 17:43 GMT
#3056
Well, it is possible ofc..
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November 01 2013 17:50 GMT
#3059
I really hope this is a scum lynch.
I totally believe in it but ... always bad lynches town does.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 19:14 GMT
#3072
Well the amount of AFK is sad. And a bad sign.
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November 01 2013 19:59 GMT
#3078
Make sure you Twerk marv and Update me

Only power up your townread between Oats/Prom as I really believe one is scum.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 20:00 GMT
#3079
Dnu where Prome is tbh...
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 20:20 GMT
#3085
Can you tell me why Onegu isn't scummy? Or is it a read on Seuss?
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 20:25 GMT
#3089
He should have been here longer. I just can't understand why he would as townie pressure only me in the 40 hours he played this game. Or only have a scumread on me.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 20:33 GMT
#3094
Ah true. Prome did vote. No modkill.
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November 01 2013 20:33 GMT
#3095
I blame marv.
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November 01 2013 20:58 GMT
#3101
wow you people are ...
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November 01 2013 21:01 GMT
#3103
Can I be obnoxious for the rest of the game?
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 21:36 GMT
#3129
Playing DotA but my team sux balls. Will be here soon. I don't see enough praising though.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 21:47 GMT
#3130
So all my abilities cost 1 less tonight.
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November 01 2013 21:49 GMT
#3131
Tomorrow I want to lynch into Prom/Oats tbh.
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November 01 2013 21:52 GMT
#3132
The question is;
Is it Prom that helped Seuss to talk into this thread.
Is it Oats that really needed that 6th vote?
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 21:55 GMT
#3133
On October 28 2013 23:29 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 22:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hai marv.
I can talk about Prome for just a little bit atm if you'd like, but I'm nor sure how long I'll be around so we won't be able to pick each other's brains as per usual. What exactly were you saving up regarding your townread of him to tell me?

Oh and regarding Seuss (monte it's so weird to call you that) he seems pretty town to me. Like he said I coached him and his behaviour falls pretty in line with his last newbie, as well as what you determined to be him rolefishing. I give him the WaveofShadow newbie stamp of approval for now, though I would really like to hear some reads from him, as I know he is pretty capable of good analysis with way less to work with than has been posted in this thread.


Yay stamp of approval.

Now that I'm not distracted by marv here are my current thoughts.

Promethelax: Probably town. When I, an unknown entity, entered the thread his first response was to solicit my opinion in a neutral way, and keep drawing more information from me regarding my mindset. This was good, pro-town play, as it lets him and everyone else get the chance to form a read on me. In general I'd call him inquisitive, he likes poking where there's gaps in information. He's been a bit more confrontational with some of the other posters, but confrontational isn't inherently anti-town. Without him we'd probably know a lot less right now. I can get why people would find his "I can't meta Pandain" and apparent lack of scum reads concerning, but on the whole I think he's clearly town.

strongandbig: No idea, but unless he starts posting a crapton before the voting deadline I think we're better off pursuing someone else. We stand to learn absolutely nothing by lynching him, though applying pressure might help loosen his tongue.

Oatsmaster: Maybe scum. There's still a lot of "if so-and-so is Y, so-and-so #2 is X" without an explanation of the logic. I don't think it makes sense for him to give marv a pass for not talking about who he doesn't want to talk about, but not give Promethelax a similar pass for not following up where he doesn't want to follow up. He says he's made a strong case but you have to go back through about 30 posts and pick it up in bits and pieces, which is time consuming and not all that convincing. I realize this may just be his posting style and "meta" or whatever, but I find it obfuscates information more than I'd like.

You guys move faster than I can analyze and parse. Waugh.


There is no reason for Seuss to add SnB as scum in there tbh. Would be interesting to do that.

Prom looks the best here.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 21:56 GMT
#3134
So my seal of approval goes to Oats scum.

After that I don't really know. Kush was pushing Seuss pretty hard when we were going after WoS. But not so long ago he was yelling Seuss was going to flip town.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 22:00 GMT
#3135
rayn his skill is pretty bad for being scum.
Pandain is now also town now for me. 2 vote alterers on scum look pretty insane AND he was the one who first casually dropped that he could alter votes. When there are 2 scummers that can do that, no way they say that in the thread. They keep it for 5 vs 3
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 22:00 GMT
#3136
So yeah, game looks good.
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November 01 2013 22:05 GMT
#3140
On November 02 2013 07:02 HotCottonCandy wrote:
the replacement was the best thing that could have happened tbh, I don't think I would have wanted to lynch him if seuss was still playing. every post onegu made was just so bad

I would have loved to see Seuss talk him out of my case though.
It was so epic.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 22:06 GMT
#3142
On November 02 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
I'm really suspicious of rayn right now, but I need to reread some stuff.

My problem with rayn is that he didn't want to talk with me around my case. We always understand each other around cases and he didn't want to help me improve my case.
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November 01 2013 22:13 GMT
#3149
btw, do you know that rayn said he can do something else by night that he really wanted to do? Look at Seuss/Onegu his PM, there is an additional RB.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 22:17 GMT
#3152
Hmm. Seuss could PM the hosts and didn't have to type it in the chat.
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November 01 2013 22:32 GMT
#3161
I am telling you that you people charged up Oats and he had vigi shot.

6 votes was vigi shot.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 22:35 GMT
#3166
Oats/rayn sounds good for me.
Oats first.
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November 01 2013 22:35 GMT
#3167
Nha rayn hmmm. Not sure yet. Not sure.
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November 01 2013 22:49 GMT
#3172
There is the chance there isn't a 3p as well.
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November 01 2013 22:54 GMT
#3175
We got the RB from scum btw. Pretty sick.
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November 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#3176
Pandain Twerked wrongly. He added name...
But you could be lame and add Onegu Twerk.

I got so many updates. I can do all my skills if only the hosts would allow it D:
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November 01 2013 23:12 GMT
#3178
imho I deserve to die tonight.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 23:12 GMT
#3179
And I want epic flavor.
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November 01 2013 23:45 GMT
#3182
Yeah true that. I don't want you to be scum. Oats & Kush would be the easy answer.
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November 01 2013 23:53 GMT
#3186
On November 02 2013 08:48 HotCottonCandy wrote:
anyone wanna tell me if im just being paranoid or not? Look at Seuss' filter and see how many times he mentions nukes and asking people every little small detail about the nukes. It's like he is trying his hardest to pretend like he doesn't know what's going on.

Seuss case on Sentinel during the WoS lynch makes Sentinel pretty towny for me.
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Koshi
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November 01 2013 23:54 GMT
#3187
What are you hinting on?
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November 02 2013 00:04 GMT
#3197
On November 02 2013 09:02 HotCottonCandy wrote:
and I can't find a single thing about prom in seuss' filter, anyone feel free to correct me if im wrong there.


On October 28 2013 23:29 Seuss wrote:
Promethelax: Probably town. When I, an unknown entity, entered the thread his first response was to solicit my opinion in a neutral way, and keep drawing more information from me regarding my mindset. This was good, pro-town play, as it lets him and everyone else get the chance to form a read on me. In general I'd call him inquisitive, he likes poking where there's gaps in information. He's been a bit more confrontational with some of the other posters, but confrontational isn't inherently anti-town. Without him we'd probably know a lot less right now. I can get why people would find his "I can't meta Pandain" and apparent lack of scum reads concerning, but on the whole I think he's clearly town.

But it wasn't enough to give Prom a ##yolo later.
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 00:10 GMT
#3206
Yeah, that's kinda unlikely unless Onegu wanted to get hammered asap by rayn.
But who would allow Onegu to make that case tbh...

Also, I don't want to lynch rayn.

We really think that all 4 power ups are town?
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November 02 2013 00:14 GMT
#3208
Damn looks like Oats got only 1 Refudiate this time. From SnB.
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November 02 2013 01:48 GMT
#3242
Promes filter is also good. I like Prome.
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November 02 2013 11:59 GMT
#3253
-_- r u serious?
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November 02 2013 12:29 GMT
#3268
I am liking Promes filter less now. :>

Prome you think both Oats/you can be town? Or better all 4 of us power gatherers?

If we look at Seuss there are 4 people he interacted the most with.
You who helped him enter the thread. You were mentioned as strong townread in his analysis on you/SnB/Oats.
WoS who gave him townread after that and encouraged posting. WoS who Seuss counterclaimed but never pushed as lynch.
Oats who Seuss had as weak scumread. But gave a power up because he was sure he was town. And then during N1 was flailing around until he was forced to reread and give weak scumread.
Sentinel on who Seuss was pushing after WoS cc.

If you arent scum Prome, you need to look at Oats. I said this before as well and Oats first reaction was to push you as scum. Thoughts?


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Koshi
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November 02 2013 12:37 GMT
#3282
On November 02 2013 21:31 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi can you protect me tonight?

I am disgusted by the lack of CobraTanks in that question.
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November 02 2013 12:42 GMT
#3284
Come on 4 guys that can get powered up
1 gimped cop with extra stuff. Like parity cop.
1 gimped doc with extra stuff. Like Jailor.
1 vet with extra stuff. I don't know
1 scum that has vigi shot.

It makes muchos sense in a 10 vs 3 with 2 vote alterers that scum has a chance on an extra shot.
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November 02 2013 12:45 GMT
#3288
And I only allow 3p that has some sort of ##spell in this game.
A simple SK would be disappointing game design wise.
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November 02 2013 12:47 GMT
#3291
On November 02 2013 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
This power is really not fun btw hosts. Not fun at all having to search through everyone's filter all the time.

I don't know if this is because I have TL+ but I can see 100 pages at a time. So 2000 messages.

I just ctrl+f after my power.

I can do it for you if you can't do it that way.
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November 02 2013 12:53 GMT
#3295
Koshi got 6!!

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 31 2013 10:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Twerk
##Yolo Promethelax
##Update Koshi

##Vote: OOHCHILD


I WANT HIM DEAD


On October 31 2013 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. Tomorrow i am taking control over this game because i am The President of United States of America and there is no real direction and it bother the shit out of me.

marvellosity has been calling me scummy and good looking in turns. Now he needs to make a case on me because i want to know if he actually thinks i am scum (he shouldn't tbh). Do not twerk marv yet please.

Oats needs to give out reads with reasoning. Otherwise i will push the red button and it would be hilarious if my role's nuke would be dud.

People who said WoS was most suspicious of me must explain why they are reading a different game than i am. If they don't they get lynched, i guarantee it.

Koshi, could you elaborate on how your role works? I assume the more updates you get the more powerful power you get. Am i correct?

##Update Koshi


On October 31 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
##Update Koshi


On October 31 2013 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
##Update Koshi
Last bit of posts make sense, gonna see if I can see stuff in Rayn's or SnB or Pandain's filter.

Marv, why is Rayn noticing me posting

On November 02 2013 01:45 Pandain wrote:
##Update Koshi
what does it do?


On November 02 2013 04:54 strongandbig wrote:
##Update Koshi
##vote onegu I guess my vote doesn't matter anyway
##Refudiate Oatsmaster

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November 02 2013 12:59 GMT
#3298
marv got 6!! You better check this btw, I hate double checking things.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 31 2013 11:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Are you bad rayn?
##Twerk
##Yolo Promethelax

On October 31 2013 06:04 Pandain wrote:
##Twerk Marvellosity

On October 31 2013 03:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:44 strongandbig wrote:
why would he know he's immune to nukes if he actually had no information about his power

calling bullshit


It came with my nuking post.

i.e. post went like this

>you get a nuke, here's how to use the thing
>time constraints, have to submit it in 12 hours tonight, etc.
>you are immune to any and all nukes that come in your direction

Poops, my thing was never sent in?

##Twerk

On November 01 2013 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's kil Prome! At least until he does something.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Promethelax


also ##Twerk

On October 31 2013 23:33 strongandbig wrote:
##Twerk
Let me know if I got that wrong

Anyway I looked at sent again. I read his filter this game and his filter from noir where he was scum. No quotes cause on phone.

Filter this game feels very different from noir filter. Noir he was way more "srsbsns I'm makin reads guise". However, I can't decide whether that indicates an alignment difference or if it's just cause this game is a crazy themed game where he got a troll role from the hosts.

I'm still a little stuck on the stuff at the start of the game about not retweeting koshi, then doing Marv, then doing koshi anyway. It just all feels pretty over-done/under-explained, if that makes sense.

Also I kind of have a problem with him not really talking about anyone but kush and himself (and wos I guess). Like, the stuff in his case is mostly true - kush's actions were pretty much objectively scummy and terrible. But it's pretty convenient if sent's scum. But on the other hand, I know that can also happen to a townie under pressure, and judging by his noir filter it's not like tunneling is a scum tell for him.

In conclusion: Sentinel could very well be scum, and I would say he's higher on my scummy list than many others in this game, but I'm far from convinced.

On November 01 2013 20:50 Koshi wrote:
##Twerk



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November 02 2013 13:07 GMT
#3306
On November 02 2013 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i also think marv's twerk is totally fake because of his stance on people twerking him makes absolutely no sense given what he said early game. that's totally bullshit that he suddenly makes some half-arsed comment about not suddenly wanting specific people (which he never specifies) to twerk him. oddly enough prome is someone who needs to not twerk marv for some reason. koshi look at your role and if that does make sense to you or not. marv also gets suddenly angry at me when i ask him "what are you".

that's pretty much all i have to say for today.

I already said many times how the updates works for me.

I don't understand why you give marv a hard time. Sure, if marv is alive at lylo you might just want to kill him and build cases around him then. But what is the use of saying a guy is scum that has a 34 page filter? There is nothing different from his filter here than in Noir btw.
He still gets mad when people say he is scum and refers to his filter.
He still doesn't hardpush people but is more like the voice of reason.
He steered the lynch towards Onegu/Seuss way more than anybody else of you.

Like, there is 0 reasons to call him scum. Just lynch everybody else and when he is alive in the end you can consider it. But atm, nope. Never.

You should drop it. I would lynch anybody except Pandain, marv, sentinel tomorrow. They are free of suspicion.

I would prefer to lynch into Oats/Prome.
Or just Kush.
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November 02 2013 13:08 GMT
#3309
On November 02 2013 22:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv is wanting to justify him being alive for asking doc protection but i heavily disagree there being another doc, and marv already made my ability useless for no apparent reason. he tries to make people think there is protection on him and mafia would avoid him for that reason because he is BP and if mafia did hit him he would be exposed to them.

you might be able to lynch me tomorrow but after that you seriously need to lynch marv because when i flip you'll see how things really are and let's just hope it's not too late then.

Can't you just say why? Roleclaiming aint that bad for you atm.
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November 02 2013 13:11 GMT
#3312
On November 02 2013 22:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
and what's even funnier is that you practically have to lynch me tomorrow. that makes it double funny to me. :p

great... and why is that?
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November 02 2013 13:11 GMT
#3313
On November 02 2013 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
Like I am literally 100% on rayn now.

SO IT HAS BEEN DECIDED
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November 02 2013 13:13 GMT
#3315
It's Oats/rayn then.

I could RB one of the 2.
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November 02 2013 13:16 GMT
#3323
On November 02 2013 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 22:13 Koshi wrote:
It's Oats/rayn then.

I could RB one of the 2.

no need to roleblock me because marv literally made me useless. hope you don't die though because everyone else is pretty useless in this game.

Dude...

You are martyring. That's not cool.
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November 02 2013 13:25 GMT
#3324
rayn, marv put some pressure on you and you totally flipped and didn't speak of anything else than marv in the last 20 hours. You say that Prome/Oats are scum but you don't back it up.

Early D2 you and marv were arguing like bitches as well. I remember it. It's not productive because like I said, marv is not scummy enough to get lynched. There are 6 better targets, it's pointless what you are doing.

You know that you start with 100 Koshi points, marv with like 10 and all the other kids with -1. But atm marv surpassed you and you will get lynched tomorrow.

Which is a petty because I would love to lynch Oats.
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November 02 2013 13:39 GMT
#3332
On November 02 2013 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it's like thug life d1-d2 when i lost motivation purely because nobody listened to me and wouldn't even ask me anything and just called me bad/scum when i was trying to lynch palmar. i don't care to write big posts, i don't care if people listen or not, i just say what i think and that's it, because i don't care as much as i used to. i've said it already before.

Well it's not like shit happened on Day 2 except "the great Koshi" show. Which I will call it from now on.

This game we had.
Day 1: Policy lynch. (don't sign up if you don't play)
Day 2: Scum lynch. ( Perfect case)
Day 3: Scum lynch / cba to play town lynch

So if you are scum, please continue with what you are doing rayn.
But if you are town. You are ruining this perfect game.
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November 02 2013 13:41 GMT
#3334
I am pretty sure that town rayn can find scum + make a case for the D3 lynch.
I am pretty sure that scum rayn can pretend to find scum + make a case for the D3 lynch.


I dislike rayn not bothering and saying marv is 3p because. We don't care about marv.
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November 02 2013 13:44 GMT
#3337
I need VA his blessing.

VA,

are rayn/Oats scum together?
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November 02 2013 13:53 GMT
#3338
Also can you do something with 2 votes Prome?

PS: pretty sure scum won't have 2 RB and you are not prior target with 2 votes.
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November 02 2013 13:54 GMT
#3340
I just remembered Oats can't do shit with 1 vote only :D
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November 02 2013 13:58 GMT
#3344
I think rayn his second skill is a frame ability.
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 14:01 GMT
#3346
and I think Prome is a cop.

Game solved tbh.
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November 02 2013 14:02 GMT
#3347
I am a afk now for many hours.
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 15:30 GMT
#3348
It's quite unlikely that both scummers Updated me when they know I can RB though.
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November 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#3350
It's okay. I placed cobras and a tank around you.
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November 02 2013 15:46 GMT
#3352
Ok, then I will place the Cobras in the Tank. So they can't hurt you while the Tank protects you. And when they try to disable the Tank, they meet the Cobras.

Sounds like a great plan.
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 15:47 GMT
#3354
the first "they" are the Cobras.
the second "they" are the scummers.
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November 02 2013 17:13 GMT
#3356
Somewhere Oats and Prome should claim.
The role from Kush is kinda really terrible for scum tbh. Removing 1 guy his twitter powering up skills. That role seem really bad for scum, unless they use it on another scum and then that scummer tries to get town cred out of it.

I dont know how the other blues work. But unless you update I cant target you. Maybe it is different for other blues.

Like if all the power gatherers are town, which is highly unlikely, then I can see Kush be scum with that role.

Also, I am still bothered with the fact Seuss didnt have to type it in the thread. I wonder if rayn made the same mistake by claiming that. Because rayn his skill is really powerful against us/me when it is done in secret. And he can help his scumbuddy by making things cost 1 less.

I am also bothered that it isnt President of The United States of America. Damn hosts.. Or rayn.
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 17:17 GMT
#3357
And why do you people use these bad skills...
Like why does Kush use his ability? Do I remember this wrongly? But why would you prevent people to power us up? We are going for 3/4 town at least. So maybe it is a scum role after all. Because Seuss could use PMs for his "twitter" power. So it's not like Kush could prevent Seuss winning the game at lylo by preventing the extra vote.
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 18:48 GMT
#3360
Yeah sounds about right. Epic things will need to happen for scum now. Praying there is no SK to fuck us up.
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#3361
Silly nukes doing completely nothing. I really wonder if Seuss/Prome had the real nuke or that Sentinel pulled his immunity for nukes out of his ass.
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 21:15 GMT
#3379
I feel like this will be a glorious day.
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November 02 2013 21:21 GMT
#3380
Poor Pandain btw. He was close to confirmed town.
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November 02 2013 21:32 GMT
#3382
I dont really understand were you even able to do something with 2 votes?
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November 02 2013 21:33 GMT
#3383
Should have blocked some1 else tbh.
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November 02 2013 21:36 GMT
#3386
Oo should wait till marv is here. Something is very wrong.
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November 02 2013 21:39 GMT
#3388
The CobraTank didnt work?
You know what the CobraTank is right?

What happens when X does RB on Y and Y does RB on Z?
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November 02 2013 21:42 GMT
#3390
Ok. I didnt know that. CobraTank is working then.
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November 02 2013 21:45 GMT
#3395
On November 03 2013 06:44 HotCottonCandy wrote:
##update Koshi

Thank you kind Sir. But you need to do "Update" with that big U.
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November 02 2013 21:45 GMT
#3397
On November 03 2013 06:44 marvellosity wrote:
You jailed me right koshi? Bo need to be coy I don't think

Yes.
Both nights.
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November 02 2013 21:59 GMT
#3404
Got 4 as well. Mason track jail RB.
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November 02 2013 21:59 GMT
#3405
Not going to find them.
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November 02 2013 22:01 GMT
#3408
But maybe scum has multiple RB... for sure in one of those other blues.
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November 02 2013 22:02 GMT
#3410
I am not at home. Phoneposting.
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 22:03 GMT
#3413
Wtf same... wtf. What is this game?
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Koshi
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November 02 2013 22:06 GMT
#3415
So did you solve the game or ?
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November 02 2013 22:09 GMT
#3418
Well I am off for a while but this is weird rofl.
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November 03 2013 00:43 GMT
#3423
We are waiting on marv to solve the game.
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November 03 2013 13:50 GMT
#3447
...
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November 03 2013 13:53 GMT
#3450
So both prome and oats are cops. And both marv and me jailors. What is your 7 power up oats? Because you had 7 n1.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 13:57 GMT
#3453
Also. Is it important ALL twerk you?
rayn is probably scum. But he might be right about the 3p thingie. So maybe we keep the twerking on 8 or so?
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 14:02 GMT
#3455
And then there should be somebody who just dont twerk you at all ever. Like Kush. We got to cover all bases. Even if that sounds quite ridiculous.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 14:06 GMT
#3458
Yes. Secret win conditions are evil.
But I got you as town, no worries.
Also I had it in my mind from start that 3p would need all people to power up.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 14:13 GMT
#3460
Not really. It could be just "all people who are alive" and then endgame it is just 4 peoe or something. But in that case they proly win with town.

We cool. We cool.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 14:20 GMT
#3470
Probably not.

As for scumhunting. Somewhere this cycle I will read rayn his filter and see if I can be certain like as with Seuss.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 14:22 GMT
#3472
Ok. Ezpz day then.
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November 03 2013 14:23 GMT
#3473
Kush you should ##Update me. So I can RB you tonight if we think you are last scummer.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 14:24 GMT
#3474
Ohh we can also just RB our last suspects and then they cant kill unless that doesnt help. Hmmm
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 14:28 GMT
#3477
Ok cool. But if rayn is scum and there are only 2 scum left didnt we win if you can jail me while I CobraTank you?
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 14:29 GMT
#3478
Kush should have used his power on you to prevent that I guess. But without us roleclaiming that would have been insane.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 14:29 GMT
#3479
Maybe there are 4 scummers this game.
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November 03 2013 14:31 GMT
#3482
Ahh. Sense it makes.
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November 03 2013 14:47 GMT
#3488
Oats, life would be easier if your 7th is a vigi shot and both Seuss and sentinel powered you up so you can use it. But 9 vs 4 sound quite brutal with a scum vigi. So I am just going to think that Sentinel is town. His skill was somewhat townie.
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November 03 2013 14:48 GMT
#3489
But you guessed parity cop so I am sad.
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November 03 2013 14:49 GMT
#3490
But even I knew that Prome was a cop. So maybe you are just talented like me.
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November 03 2013 14:50 GMT
#3491
Marv blocking our parity cop is really bad. Evul marv.
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November 03 2013 15:03 GMT
#3494
I told you he was a gimped cop. I said it.
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November 03 2013 15:04 GMT
#3495
Our 2 parity cops did nothing...
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November 03 2013 15:05 GMT
#3496
Above messages is me being surprised I was right.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 15:15 GMT
#3498
Thats true because we didnt do anything yet. Unless I saved you n1.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 17:44 GMT
#3502
Is 7 also busdriver? Because that would ruin my day.
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November 03 2013 17:44 GMT
#3503
And I am having a really good day.
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November 03 2013 18:11 GMT
#3505
HiHi
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November 03 2013 19:25 GMT
#3580
Well, I was following this conversation on the train with much delight. But I had 4 % battery so I couldn't participate.
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Koshi
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November 03 2013 19:26 GMT
#3582
On October 30 2013 23:01 marvellosity wrote:
Only medic/watcher on me tonight if anyone has these

no jailing or roleblocking or anything else dumb

You are so powerful. I thought you understood what the CobraTank meant.
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November 03 2013 19:29 GMT
#3589
rayn, do you think that there are 4 scummers?
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November 03 2013 19:32 GMT
#3590
10 vs 3 makes sense with 3 blues that need power ups and 1 scum power up guy. Because scum does not need to hunt for blues, the blues are right there in front of their nose.

When it is 9 vs 4 I can see that all the power up guys are town.

However, there is 0% chance that 2 power up guys are scum. Because town would have no blues left after N2.


I do not know why scum are not shooting the blues, but it is their own freaking fault.
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November 03 2013 19:35 GMT
#3595
So I am going with a 10 vs 3 set-up.

Oats is the scum power up guy that has a vigi shot.
Seuss is the scum RB (guess what, also this spell is quite easy to hit, because the blues are claiming in the thread)
Then there is a scum framer with a twist. This twist can be making it harder for blues to get their spells. (like you need +1 vote)

Now in a normal world, scum RB on a blue and shoots a blue and if they were able to power up their scum vigi then they can even shoot 2 blues.

Which is pretty balanced.


So this set-up like I describe it is balanced. Scum just decided to do silly things.
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November 03 2013 19:38 GMT
#3597
On November 04 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi, can't you see there is something wrong in this shit. And it's marv or Prome.
Actaully marv, i think Prome is bullshitting. Based on his "contributions" that are non-existent and his power which by your definition is too low-cost.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Promethelax

But both Prome and marv are giving each other townreads.

Look at what I wrote. There can't be 2 blues that are scum. So either they are very wrong and bad. Or it is Oats.

You know, Oats, the guy Seuss powered up and scumclaimed around?
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November 03 2013 19:42 GMT
#3603
On November 04 2013 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am really sorry i don't have the patience to find the relevant info now but if you wanna resolve this now rather than tomorrow (i gtg out drinking soon) pls tell me this.
- has oats claimed his values?
- how many yolo's did prome get on N1 and N2? (N1 4?)

Oats said 3/5/7 after Prome said it. He did claim Parity cop before Prome but I did not see a crumb. And he could have guessed it.

Prome got 5 on Day 1 I think. Oats got 7 Day 1.
Prome got 2 on Day 2 I think. Oats got 1 Day 2.
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November 03 2013 19:43 GMT
#3606
On November 04 2013 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 04:38 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi, can't you see there is something wrong in this shit. And it's marv or Prome.
Actaully marv, i think Prome is bullshitting. Based on his "contributions" that are non-existent and his power which by your definition is too low-cost.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Promethelax

But both Prome and marv are giving each other townreads.

Look at what I wrote. There can't be 2 blues that are scum. So either they are very wrong and bad. Or it is Oats.

You know, Oats, the guy Seuss powered up and scumclaimed around?

I really do not think that means anything. Koshi please listen to me now.
I think noob scum is more likely to power up a townie rather than his scummate because of fear of getting caught.

I agree that is possible. That's why I am saying since dawn of time that we need to lynch into Prome/Oats today.
But you have been busy quoting and fighting with marv since end of N1. Which is a very long time.
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November 03 2013 19:53 GMT
#3617
Look rayn, Marv is town. You will not get him lynched. Nobody will allow it.
So now let's look at Prome/Oats.

Prome: The guy that helped Seuss into this thread. Instantly asked question at Seuss and tried to figure him out or tried to make him look like he was contributing. Seuss not powering up Prome even with a townread on him is strange but Prome did ask to stop powring him up.
This is interesting, maybe it is because his parity cop spell doesn't allow him to target people that power him up, which it proven by the fact he checked Seuss n1.
Another interesting fact is that Prome asked to stop powering him up when it would be logical that his 7th skill would be the vigi shot as scum. Not the 5th.
Then there is the townread from marv on Prome. And all the other kids love Prome. So.. We love Prome.

Oats: The guy that Seuss scumclaimed on. The guy that put some small counterpressure onto Seuss after Seuss called him scum. But Seuss pointed out that Oats did something strange by saying Prome was town and made a case on him and then Scum WoS jumped on therefore Oats said SORRY to Seuss and that was that.
Oats the guy without reads.
Oats the guy that had 7 votes.
Oats the guy that didn't use his parity check night 2 (this is not alignment indicative but punishable)
Oats that isn't doing shit.


So who should we pick?
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#3619
On November 04 2013 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 19:05 Promethelax wrote:
On November 03 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
I would have guessed all powerups are similar, dept Prome seems to need nothing lol


I need 3, 5 and 7. I used my five power up night one and two. You blocked it night two rendering it useless. You figure it out. No this is not inconsistent with how many votes I got.

I need 5 yolos today and expect to get them from the following: vayne, SnB, sent, oats and one of Rayn or Kush.

Game not broken, scum needs to kill off the voters to eliminate the blues.

Marv: why did you not want me to twerk you n1?

So wtf is this unexplained bullshit?
Someone explain this?

And this game roleblocks are resolved in lol manner but nvm.

This is where he says that on N1 he used parity cop. How is that not obvious? After this Oats claims Parity cop as well.
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November 03 2013 19:56 GMT
#3620
Yeah I forgot about the whole Oats saying Sorry to Seuss thingie. That's also why I thought they were scum together way before I made my case on Seuss.
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November 03 2013 19:57 GMT
#3623
And this is totes like Oats scum in NWM. The guy literally posted 3 times each cycle. He couldn't care anymore. Kinda fast to stop caring day 3 but that's what it is.

I am totally willing to vote Oats over rayn.
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November 03 2013 19:58 GMT
#3624
##vote: Oatsmaster
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November 03 2013 19:59 GMT
#3630
On November 04 2013 04:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 04:53 Koshi wrote:
Look rayn, Marv is town. You will not get him lynched. Nobody will allow it.
So now let's look at Prome/Oats.

Prome: The guy that helped Seuss into this thread. Instantly asked question at Seuss and tried to figure him out or tried to make him look like he was contributing. Seuss not powering up Prome even with a townread on him is strange but Prome did ask to stop powring him up.
This is interesting, maybe it is because his parity cop spell doesn't allow him to target people that power him up, which it proven by the fact he checked Seuss n1.
Another interesting fact is that Prome asked to stop powering him up when it would be logical that his 7th skill would be the vigi shot as scum. Not the 5th.
Then there is the townread from marv on Prome. And all the other kids love Prome. So.. We love Prome.

Oats: The guy that Seuss scumclaimed on. The guy that put some small counterpressure onto Seuss after Seuss called him scum. But Seuss pointed out that Oats did something strange by saying Prome was town and made a case on him and then Scum WoS jumped on therefore Oats said SORRY to Seuss and that was that.
Oats the guy without reads.
Oats the guy that had 7 votes.
Oats the guy that didn't use his parity check night 2 (this is not alignment indicative but punishable)
Oats that isn't doing shit.


So who should we pick?

Oats not using his power is not alignment indicative.
We should pick Prome. His play is shit. There can be a scum role similar to town role that needs power ups.
I agree marv should not be lynched. I am not 100% sure he is town just because he is so unbeliebeably wrong on me and i think he should know better. I have talked with him after every fucking game we have played together about what i have done wrong and other shit. He knows what i do as town or as scum and i do ot do what i have done this game as scum. It's the fucking truth and atm i do not care if marv is scum/whatever/town, i care about not getting mislynched because i am really fucking sure Prome is scum and i do not think marv's towntells on him from ~12 inot D1 hold water because the guy has not done shit after D1.... he has done NOTHING AT ALL!

But marv says Prome is town.
You said Oats is scum.
Oats claimed Parity cop AFTER Prome did and Oats didn't make it look like a CC.
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November 03 2013 20:00 GMT
#3631
On November 04 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 04:56 marvellosity wrote:
it's a pretty common way of resolving roleblocks...

I have never seen it and i disagree, that's pretty shitty way to resolve roleblocks but that's not something to talk about now. It's post game, that's how's it solved in this game.

nha, that's how RB always get resolved. I remember from newbie I replaced in.
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November 03 2013 20:02 GMT
#3634
How can you not see that Oats is 10 times more scummy than Prome.

Prome asked people to stop voting him. Then he checked a guy that didn't vote for him. Like, his actions make sense.

Unless he is deliberately doing this to fuck with us.
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November 03 2013 20:05 GMT
#3635
Prome D1 > Oats D1
Prome D2 = Oats D2
Prome D3 = Oats D3
________________________
Seuss indicated that Oats is scum.
----> waffle around Oats N1, Oats power up
________________________

Prome his night actions make sense in this set-up
________________________

Marv says Prome is town.
A lot of other kids say Prome is town
Nobody says Oats is town
________________________
________________________
4 reasons why we kill Oats over Prome.
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November 03 2013 20:06 GMT
#3636
We are incredible lucky that we are somewhat figuring out this game because Kush/Sentinel/SnB/Prome/Oats are not really playing too hard atm.
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November 03 2013 20:49 GMT
#3641
Not really confirmed town. But I agree that it is unlikely that Onegu would do that if you were around. Seuss was impulse, I doubt he asked his team.
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November 03 2013 20:52 GMT
#3642
On November 04 2013 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
could you please look at what i said about the powers and the balance?

I think the balance is this:

3 town blues that require powerup,
2 town vote alterers,
3 town VT (SnB, VA, Clarity)
2 town special skills (like kush/rayn/sentinel)

VS

1 scum "blue" that require power up.
1 scum vote alterer
1 scum with special skill (like kush/rayn/sentinel)


This is balanced because the blues have to CLAIM in the thread they are blue.
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November 03 2013 20:53 GMT
#3644
You disagree?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 20:54 GMT
#3645
On November 04 2013 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I was around. All the time. I was posting in thread.

I gotta check the last newbie game tomorrow. And his QT with WoS. I remember reading it and i don't remember him being impulsive there. You yourself said he took some time to answer you at some point.

But i'll do that tomorrow morning. Now i gtg.

Look, if you aren't scum we got to look at Kush/Sentinel.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 20:55 GMT
#3646
And I agree that it is more likely that Seuss/Onegu lost his head with Sentinel or Kush as his teammates.

Seuss/Oats/Kush is probably a pretty short scum QT. Even though Oats was pretty active D1.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 21:13 GMT
#3649
Prome you want us to bring you to 7 or 3?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 21:13 GMT
#3650
Or are you Parity copping again? And I take it you can't target people that yolo you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 21:47 GMT
#3653
Yes. I think I have been saying that for 60 pages or so Oo
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 21:48 GMT
#3654
It all started when I was butthurt that Seuss didn't want to power me up and powered Oats up.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 21:52 GMT
#3655
But we got marv guarantee on rayn.
But I like rayn.
But I also think rayn is to blame if we lynch rayn today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 22:02 GMT
#3657
Yes. That is correct.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 22:02 GMT
#3658
HCC claimed VT. And it's VA. So it is true.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 22:10 GMT
#3660
Hitting scum set-up wise combined with reads:

Oats 90%, Prome 10%
rayn 70%, Kush 25%, Sentinel 5%


That's my opinion. But I didn't read anything in the past 48 hours. I guess I reread things tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 22:14 GMT
#3663
On November 04 2013 07:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 07:02 Koshi wrote:
HCC claimed VT. And it's VA. So it is true.


Well, I trust you. And I believe Vayne.

This calls for investigation.

With that I mean that VA always rolls VT if he is town. Riddles I speak today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 22:16 GMT
#3664
Damn Kush with that 16 page filter.

Kush your read on the game? Last 2 scums?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 22:25 GMT
#3668
On November 04 2013 07:23 HotCottonCandy wrote:
that is correct I am the same role that clarity was

Would be cool if SnB verifies this.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 22:26 GMT
#3669
##Yolo Promethelax

But I am no fool! Remember that Promethelax! I am watching you!
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 22:43 GMT
#3674
Well rayn it will be then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 22:56 GMT
#3692
Kush in the game = epic laughs.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 03 2013 23:01 GMT
#3696
I just realized I play this game because I love to read my own name

^ Kush quote
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 08:15 GMT
#3718
Don't know if scum always gets fake role PMs. But Oats guessing busdriver is quite insane. D:
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 08:32 GMT
#3719
Like everybody is just following marv his read on rayn. Nobody adds to what he said or even just 1ups his reasons. I'll see if there is something in rayns filter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 04 2013 09:47 GMT
#3721
On November 01 2013 20:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi we need you in finding scum, not figuring out powers now. Be a good Koshi and join the discussion plz.

On November 01 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi now you are being just dumb. Onegu is not the only person in this game even if he is scum.

On November 01 2013 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 21:12 Koshi wrote:
Doesn't matter. I am not willing to let Onegu slide. After Onegu I can come up with another one 72 hours later.
Because Onegu is just waiting and waiting and waiting and will then contribute a couple hours before lynch so we don't lynch him.

Fuck that.

On November 01 2013 18:18 Onegu wrote:
Koshi has been sheeping alot and just asking for powerups day one. Really dont like that from him. Also I am more than 30 pages back I cannot add : / Im in the middle of night 1 with nukes flying everywhere.

I can also tell you that in recent games Onegu said the exact opposite about my D1 play.

wtf Koshi. I understand he is your top scumread and there is nothing wrong with that. You can't possibly do anything about it until he posts. Why don't you do something else inbetween?
If he is in fact scum, what do you gain from tunneling just him now?
If he is in fact town, what do you gain from tunneling just him now?

This is an obvious defense for Seuss/Onegu. I never saw you, rayn, fully agree with my case or even say that it was 100% a good case. You, rayn, say that you were baiting Onegu to give us information but it didn't look like that at all. Onegu clearing me is like the only thing he did because me making sure he got lynched should clear me enough, Onegu making a case on me doesn't change the fact that I was the one who nailed him, like if I was bussing Onegu then Onegu making a case on me while I am doing that doesn't change too much.

Also this:
On November 01 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh god what the hell?
##Unvote:
##Vote: Onegu

I can't even understand anything and the case on Koshi is a trainwreck..

If you wanted to get something out of it you should have engaged with Onegu in the thread. Onegu was here and he was talking to me, if you wanted to spill information you should have engaged with him, but you didn't, you just voted for him as soon as you saw his case on me. Onegu was there to chat with marv & me for at least an hour. But as soon as you come in he stops playing. Which is pretty coincedental.

So we got
1) rayn defending Onegu and telling us to wait and see what Onegu brings us.
2) Onegu making a case on me and having a conversation with marv/me.
3) rayn coming back and Onegu leaving.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now you say that you would never let Onegu make such a case on me and I agree. But it seems like you weren't there when it was happening. You recently said the opposite and that you were here and posting but the thread clearly doesn't reflect that. So I can only conclude that you weren't here.
Lets look at the timestamps:
On November 01 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

^ last post of rayn before Onegu case
On November 01 2013 22:39 Onegu wrote:

^ Onegu case
On November 01 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

^ rayn coming back to the thread. Onegu has left the building permanently.
Conclusion, you weren't around for the Onegu case on me and you weren't here to discuss his case with him. Coincedental like so many times this game? I think that is something marv blames you this game and now here is another example.
___________________________________________________________________________________

Now I want to point fingers at 2 cowboys who were here while Onegu was discussing the case around me:
SnB did not feel the need to interact with Onegu at all. There was no vote coming from SnB as well. I don't know what he was doing. SnB came in later in the discussion so he could have easily taken sides.
On November 01 2013 23:34 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 22:50 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:49 Onegu wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu, I should be extremely obviously town to you, as my play is literally nothing like Dessert.
So Koshi's townread on me is not unfounded at all.

Ill be honest the main reason I doubt you is because the replacement thing.

I'm going to get mad about replacements as either alignment if it comes at a bullshit time.

This exchange sticks in my craw
Quoting it so its in my filter, I'll think about it later

On November 01 2013 23:37 strongandbig wrote:
Onegu's koshi case is bad. It's a case that could come from scum or town though. , pointing out aspects of koshi's play, not connecting them to scum motivations and not providing context for why it makes koshi specifically scum.


Oats briefly commented that Onegu his case was bad but didn't feel the need either to put the pressure on Onegu. But unlike SnB Oats was here at the start and believe it or not Oats pressured marv more than Onegu after the Onegu case. This looks so bad...
On November 01 2013 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok so this is an extended OMGUS on Koshi by Onegu.
Interesting.

On November 01 2013 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
You wanna explain that vote marv?

On November 01 2013 22:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
You wanna explain that vote marv?

Do you want to read my posts?

right I was under the impression that you were voting Onegu, not Seuss. So what happened with your normal give the replacement a day to settle in?

So this is what Oats does:
1) Oh shit that case from Onegu is bad.
2) Why are you voting Onegu marv? It can't be linked to the case at all now can it?
3) So why are we not giving Onegu more time even though deadline is soon?
--> This is pressure on marv, there is no interaction with Onegu at all. But when Onegu is gone Oats comes back with this gem:
On November 02 2013 00:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
In fairness, you guys are a bunch of twats.

Man I kinda like the case on koshi actually. Rayn calling it bullshit seems like scum heaping more and more on what looks like a lynch. Might be a mislynch. Might not.

The suspicion trowing on rayn ends with:
On November 02 2013 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
I am voting for Rayn.
It comes from mafia under a lot of pressure.
Look marv, let me think.

But the marv kinda stomps Oats down and Oats is forced to vote Onegu.


CONCLUSION:
Both rayn and Oats look terrible. But if rayn isn't scum. OATS FUCKING IS.
and there is the chance they are both scum, even though it is strange that Oats busses rayn then as soon as Onegu gets voted by rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#3723
Oats, if you aren't scum Prome/rayn are scum and then rayn is doing some major bussing of Prome atm.

I think you are scum though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#3724
Or it's Prome/Kush

Which is pretty insane.
But that would explain Onegu being all alone when he made his case on me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 09:58 GMT
#3727
On November 04 2013 18:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol what a case Koshi. What a case.
Where to start?

Ok so I didnt interact with Onegu right? I didnt because I didnt think it was useful, either I believed his spiel or didnt. Secondly, I was playing devil's advocate with the Onegu lynch, and seeing what you people said to someone against the obvious scum lynch. Marv getting pretty angry was a good tell that he really really though Onegu was scum, also I went to sleep shortly after so there was no point keeping on doing that.

It's more of a summary then a case tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 09:59 GMT
#3729
So you trow out Prome/Kush scumteam?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:11 GMT
#3731
On November 04 2013 18:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Huh ok. What do you think about other people not called Rayn/Prome/marv/Oats/Kush?

VA: no reason to think he is scummier than rayn/Oats/Prome/Kush. If he is scum he got lucky you people decided to be scummy bitches.

Sentinel : Same story really. His power is either towny for information, or scum to shit up the thread. But that didn't really happen.

SnB: Who the fuck knows? But with either Prome/Oats being scum, I would be surprised if Seuss added 2 scums in his first 3 reads.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:12 GMT
#3732
On November 04 2013 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
actaully nah.. i am not posting anything.
find scum hte nby yourselves because you apparently are dead set on lynching me.
you are bad, all of you who are town.
i go play another game becaus playing this one is useless.

Play the game or post baby seals.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:26 GMT
#3737
On November 04 2013 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't find the game fun and worth playing anymore when the case against you is "you were not here time X and Y" and people do nothing for 5 days and just sheep marv. I had fun at various times on this game but not any more.

I hope people would play the game and other people scum for what they do in the game instead of when they were not here, because i do not lie about not being here, not as town, and not as scum. Ever. I think it's cheap.

goodluck.

That is not the case against you. The case is that you didn't to shit since the end of N1 except argue with marv for no reason at all. The entire time...

You didn't scumhunt for shit except that case on WoS. What did you do D2 or D3?
D2 you did nothing except attempt to derail the Seuss case by letting me do the legwork. I fucking made a good case on Seuss and you call me a baddie because I don't want to make another case on Pandain...

D3 you are blaming set-up balance without trying to figure it out, you call marv scum without giving reasons except him saying you are scum. When I point out a possible setup to you that is balanced and we are able to calm you down and see that marv is not scum you say Prome is scum. When I point out it is more likely Oats is scum than Prome, you vote with me like a little sheep. And after that Prome post a bit later you again go into ragemode and call him scum while nobody else sees why and you refuse to tell us.

tldr: It is your own fault people want to lynch you. We expect raynexcellence and not you being a bitch 24/7.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:30 GMT
#3738
##unvote
##vote: raynpolikoneet
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:43 GMT
#3743
On November 04 2013 19:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 19:11 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2013 18:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Huh ok. What do you think about other people not called Rayn/Prome/marv/Oats/Kush?

VA: no reason to think he is scummier than rayn/Oats/Prome/Kush. If he is scum he got lucky you people decided to be scummy bitches.

Sentinel : Same story really. His power is either towny for information, or scum to shit up the thread. But that didn't really happen.

SnB: Who the fuck knows? But with either Prome/Oats being scum, I would be surprised if Seuss added 2 scums in his first 3 reads.

How come you dont think marv has a chance to be scum but you think either me or Prome is scum? Arent you using the same powers =different alignments?

Marv what do you think about the case on me?

Well, Marv should be lynched when it is lylo. Let's hope we hit scum with rayn and then when it is 2 towns vs 1 scum marv gets lynched.

tbh I find the skills from marv way too overpowered. doc, watcher, jailer and RB. I thought he figured out what I was but seems like he was crumbing. Crazy stuff.

BUT we never lynch marv at this stage of the game because he is most active + totally not scummy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:45 GMT
#3746
On November 04 2013 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Starting from this game i will get mislynhed as town, probably a lot, because i will intentionally start playing worse.
I understand now what Vayne said in some game, when he said he does not give a shit if his target gets lynched or not, he just careas about if he is right or not in his reads. That's the approach i am going to take in these games from now on, as the convincing other people part has never worked with me. Expect unbelieveably bad and lurky play from me now on, even when i am confident i am right.

If this is true I mark this day The 4th if November as the day TL mafia died a little. A black day. A darkblack day. A day so dark and sad we will weep each time it is mentioned.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:46 GMT
#3747
On November 04 2013 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
You'd lynch me at lylo even though you've been protecting me every night?

that's kinda funny :o

Well not tonight! Because you want to give me love tonight.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:47 GMT
#3749
Sure.
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Koshi
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Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:51 GMT
#3750
Marv Twerkers:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2013 06:51 HotCottonCandy wrote:
##Twerk

mafia lost their roleblocker and you guys can protect each other, so do we even need to do anything at this point? even if it got to kingmaker we auto win.


On November 03 2013 10:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Hyukhyukhyukhyukhyuk

##Twerk


On November 03 2013 23:20 OOHCHILD wrote:
##Twerk


On November 03 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol marv is so drunk

##Twerk


On November 04 2013 02:22 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
I can't use powers on those who twerk me. And I think Oats and now kush twerked me.

So I'll be using my role defensively (i.e. on you Koshi)


So I have the same role as oats. My n1 parity check was on Seuss. I sent in a check on Rayn n2 but some fucker fucked it up.

##Twerk
##Update Koshi
##Yolo Promethelax, fools

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 04 2013 10:55 GMT
#3753
Koshi only has 3 Updates atm. WHAT IS THIS?

Oats/rayn where are your Updates??????????????????

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2013 06:48 HotCottonCandy wrote:
##Update Koshi

at any rate looks like we can rule out SK now. None of the nukes were real just like I said, making sentinel's claim that he is immune to them look really stupid and look like something he posted out of fear. Idk why I'm the only one that thinks he is not town.

On November 03 2013 23:24 OOHCHILD wrote:
i dind't even use my ability today so go aheand and rb

##Update Koshi


On November 04 2013 02:22 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 23:25 marvellosity wrote:
I can't use powers on those who twerk me. And I think Oats and now kush twerked me.

So I'll be using my role defensively (i.e. on you Koshi)


So I have the same role as oats. My n1 parity check was on Seuss. I sent in a check on Rayn n2 but some fucker fucked it up.

##Twerk
##Update Koshi
##Yolo Promethelax, fools

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
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November 04 2013 10:56 GMT
#3755
On November 04 2013 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
am I supposed to yolo Prome? I forget.

He has 5 and it looks like he can only target people that didn't yolo him. I don't know how it works day 2.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:57 GMT
#3756
Well I want to RB Oats tbh. So if he Updates me we are good to go unless rayn did delegate on me so I need 2 more.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 10:57 GMT
#3757
On November 04 2013 19:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
am I supposed to yolo Prome? I forget.

He has 5 and it looks like he can only target people that didn't yolo him. I don't know how it works day 2.

I meant he wants 5*
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 11:09 GMT
#3760
Koshi
2 mason
3 track
4 jail
5 rb
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 11:10 GMT
#3762
On November 04 2013 20:10 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 20:09 Koshi wrote:
Koshi
2 mason
3 track
4 jail
5 rb

oh. you realise my costs are 4-5-6-7 right?

Well I knew they were higher but didn't know how much. That makes sense. Because 7 is quite hard to get later in the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 11:12 GMT
#3765
imo you should just doc me. why jail?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 04 2013 11:13 GMT
#3768
Ohh. Sexy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 11:14 GMT
#3769
So where is dat update on me Oats? I need to RB you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 11:15 GMT
#3773
Yeah, I actually wanted to watch you but sadly enough I got track. Which is pretty bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 11:16 GMT
#3775
On November 04 2013 20:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
##Update

Please add my name.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 11:22 GMT
#3778
rayn could you update both me and marv and use your relegate spell on I would say Prome?

How does this busdriver thingie work Oats? Can you use it on everybody? Or is it also restricted to people who voted you/not voted you? Because that is quite sick.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 11:39 GMT
#3780
How about the second night when you picked Parity cop? Does it count the initial votes or the second date votes?

Arfff and that is in line with Prome doing it on Seuss who didn't yolo him.

I am not pleased.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 04 2013 11:55 GMT
#3784
On November 04 2013 20:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
It counts initial votes.

On October 28 2013 13:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 13:30 Promethelax wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 28 2013 13:15 Promethelax wrote:
Rayn, you powered up Marv and sent but not koshi, oats or I. You say you powered sent to force him to play. Why did you power Marv? Why did you not power the other three?

I powered marv purely because of his "actually i am not sure if you should power me yet" comment.


And why did you choose to not power the other three?

I the resting sues, I can't say I agree with you but I like you. Thoughts on Marv.

Pandain, talk to me about Rayn, why is your vote on him? What were you hoping to accomplish by announcing your return to the thread and if you had to pick one of the people who claims to need to be powered up which would you power up!

Okay so here is it in full. marv came up in thread with this:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
So... I'm going to need a bunch of you to ##twerk for me at some point. :/

Then he says this:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:37 marvellosity wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:34 HotCottonCandy wrote:
also marvellosity what does your ##twerk thing consist of? is this also something we should activate during the day?

I have certain abilities at night that I can use based on how many people ##Twerk for me during the day. I think I'd rather deal with it a bit later in the day though, although I'm not going to stop anyone doing it if they want to.

And this:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote:
There's a somewhat subtle aspect to it that makes me want to leave it until later in the day, because in part it relies on my reads on players.


rayn thought process:
"marv needs people to power him up. There are other people who also needs powering up. Let's power marv up, especially when he suddenly doesn't want people to power him up, maybe... This is what most likely happens:
(1) marv is town, he does good stuff with his powers
(2) if he does bad stuff with his powers, or suddenly does not have a power-up power at all, he is probably scum
(3) something else, we gain info"


Now i do not trust Koshi's (or anyone's else's) ability to do good stuff on D1 or N1 with their power in this game other than you, myself, and marv (no offense to anyone).

I also powered up Sentinel because his power would be incredibly easy to fake as scum. "Hey guys, i only need 14 "votes" on me and then i can do good". I really want to know what he does, at worst, he is scum and something bad happens, but it's one time use (as he claimed - if he is lying, we lynch him) and i wanted to confirm that he is not lying and make him burn his power asap because he apparently thinks it's best to use now as he didn't oppose the powering. It gives me a much better read on him based on what the power is.

That being said:
##yolo Promethelax


Then how did Prome check rayn on N2?

Prome said he did Seuss N1 (who didn't yolo him D1)
Prome said he did rayn N2 (who did yolo him D1)

DING! DING! DING!
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 11:57 GMT
#3785
Hmm, but if marv RB on Prome then the KP doesn't need to be delivered most likely. Because I think he should be the most likely target to do it.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 11:58 GMT
#3786
Anyway, we lynch rayn D3 and Prome D4.

D1 Policy lynch
D2 Scum lynch
D3 Scum lynch
D4 Scum lynch

I believe.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 12:02 GMT
#3789
On October 29 2013 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Yolo Promethelax
Be aware that i didn't do it correct the last time.

It's this one. He didn't do it properly the first time.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 12:03 GMT
#3790
Well. I don't know for sure if it is Prome/Oats tbh. Oats could just be lying about the requirements of the second night. But it makes sense.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 12:19 GMT
#3796
On November 03 2013 19:05 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
I would have guessed all powerups are similar, dept Prome seems to need nothing lol


I need 3, 5 and 7. I used my five power up night one and two. You blocked it night two rendering it useless. You figure it out. No this is not inconsistent with how many votes I got.

I need 5 yolos today and expect to get them from the following: vayne, SnB, sent, oats and one of Rayn or Kush.

Game not broken, scum needs to kill off the voters to eliminate the blues.

Marv: why did you not want me to twerk you n1?

This looks so real though. Makes me unhappy.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 12:23 GMT
#3799
Also Prome said his first skill was disguiser. Which is a mafia role. Dnu why he says shit like that.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 12:24 GMT
#3800
On November 04 2013 13:07 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
eh yeah Im 3-5-7 and the EXACT same shit as prome. Hahahahaha I guess that means hes scum.


if so does that mean that one of Koshi/marv has to be scum?

These roles make little to no sense to me; I can't actually figure out a way for them to be balanced and yet I'm sure they are truthful as claimed since you/me and marv/koshi can confirm each others' roles existing as the other one has claimed them. You and I have terrible scum roles, like being X, parity cop are both terrible mafia roles. Busdriver would be alright though. If someone who charges up is scum I'd say it has to be one of the people with watcher/tracker, jk, rb, doc. Though the watcher/tracker doesn't matter at all when it comes to mafia this game since all the town blues auto out themselves.

What is that? Being X?
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 12:37 GMT
#3802
On November 04 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
koshi what happens if Prome came into today wanting to fakeclaim?

I don't follow but fakeclaiming Parity cop is pretty insane imo.

Did you breadcrumb your abilities somewhere?
Prome did you?
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 12:57 GMT
#3804
On November 04 2013 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
No, he got RB'ed you see. Koshi.....

Also fakeclaiming Parity cop as scum is the easiest thing ever.

I still don't follow. He sees marv RB in the thread and then goes: "I did something N1 and N2 but I have no results because you RB me". If he is town Parity cop that is a normal response.

Him asking for people to stop yoloing him also indicates that he needs to target people that didn't yolo him.

Conspiracy Theory:
WoS didn't yolo him so maybe he shot WoS and vigi shot is on 5 power ups. But he can't shoot people that yolo him, so he had to ask everybody to stop yoloing him. Also marv didn't yolo him so he could have shot marv who I protected.

And who has a 15 page filter D1. 1 page filter D2 and a 1 Page filter D3? Sad.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 13:19 GMT
#3808
We let marv decide who we lynch today.

rayn or Prome.

We blame marv if we lynch town.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 13:48 GMT
#3814
I would ask for a modkill.
The humanity!
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 15:00 GMT
#3819
On November 04 2013 23:51 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 07:25 Koshi wrote:
On November 04 2013 07:23 HotCottonCandy wrote:
that is correct I am the same role that clarity was

Would be cool if SnB verifies this.

Yeah, twitter follower is the vt role this game that I have

sexy.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 15:04 GMT
#3820
Oats you said your 3 power spell is Mason. If so, can you ask if you need to visit your Mason partner?
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 15:23 GMT
#3839
On November 05 2013 00:07 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi you liiiiiive.

Yes, I know I will be alive, but fact is it is that most likely mafia will kill you because there is no protection on you. So you doccing me is giving me a marv 100% guarantee townread for the rest of the game, or close to it. Now I think I will track Oats tomorrow, so that I can see if he comes to Mason me and then I will also see if he does a nightkill.

Roleblocking him is pretty useless if we can confirm his mason on me.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 15:24 GMT
#3841
Track > RB is what I am saying.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 15:25 GMT
#3845
No because marv will doc me?
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 15:28 GMT
#3851
If it is RB, I am going to quote you saying that there are never town RB.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 15:43 GMT
#3879
The discussion that 7 vote busdriver is OP for scum is kinda not relevant.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:04 GMT
#3912
That would be the exact same thing that rayn has been saying for a very long time. rayn even claimed on D2 that not all the ## abilities were real. That Prome was lying about that.

You think rayn is scum Oats?
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:11 GMT
#3915
Not really. I want Oats to Mason me tonight.
##Refudiate Oatsmaster
Please ask the host if you need to visit me for Mason.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:12 GMT
#3916
Do we want Prome to Mason me as well?
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:13 GMT
#3918
Ahh no he can't mason me I already ##yolo
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:13 GMT
#3919
On November 05 2013 01:12 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 01:11 Koshi wrote:
Not really. I want Oats to Mason me tonight.
##Refudiate Oatsmaster
Please ask the host if you need to visit me for Mason.


are you retarded. Now he can't mason you.

So evul you are. Oats can do it on people that power him up.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:16 GMT
#3922
On November 05 2013 01:14 Promethelax wrote:
oh, okay. Never mind. I'm retarded.

He keeps saying he has the same power as me. My power only works on those who Yolo me.

Don't ##yolo you mean
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:18 GMT
#3924
On November 05 2013 01:15 Promethelax wrote:
also: can I ask you to find me my yolos you wonderful TL+ person.

I think you only got 2 atm, even double checked it.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 04 2013 07:26 Koshi wrote:
##Yolo Promethelax

But I am no fool! Remember that Promethelax! I am watching you!

On November 04 2013 02:15 HotCottonCandy wrote:
##Yolo Promethelax

##vote: rayn

time to go enjoy my sunday, pce
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:26 GMT
#3928
Hmm. Unless scum Prom has
3 RB
5 Vigi
7 Busdriver

But because at least 1 is telling the truth I think that if you yolo Prome you are safe from him.

Scum Oats could have:
3 RB
5 Vigi
7 Busdriver
I could get RB from Oats then but I think you are save atm.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:28 GMT
#3932
... Sounds smart but then he needs to Mason VA or Oats :D
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:29 GMT
#3935
On November 05 2013 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because he cant use his power on people who yolo him.

Yeah but if he hits 5 some1 might get shot. Because scum is not having Parity cop rofl.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:33 GMT
#3939
On November 05 2013 01:31 Promethelax wrote:
Oats you monkey.

Koshi: if I'm lying about what I do why am I telling the truth about how many votes I need for stuff? And where did my n1 vig shot go that you are so sure I have?

WoS or marv.

I am not saying it is certain, I just say it is possible. Just like Oats could have vig at 5. I kinda forgot if WoS/marv powered up Oats D1.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:34 GMT
#3941
We can agree that scum does not have Parity cop and instead vig shot...
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:36 GMT
#3944
On November 05 2013 01:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
We can agree that we have 0 idea what scum has if they have power up.

Yes. True :D
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:36 GMT
#3946
But they don't have Parity Cop.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:47 GMT
#3963
Nope. Marv will doc me. NO SHENANIGANS THERE MARV.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 16:51 GMT
#3967
I count 2 Oats:
It's on you people to check this though.
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2013 00:06 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 20:17 marvellosity wrote:
Basically strongandbig you need to ##Twerk me because I don't see rayn doing it.

##Twerk
##Update Koshi
##Refudiate Oatsmaster




On November 05 2013 01:11 Koshi wrote:
Not really. I want Oats to Mason me tonight.
##Refudiate Oatsmaster
Please ask the host if you need to visit me for Mason.

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Koshi
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November 04 2013 17:01 GMT
#3969
No. Actually don't Mason me. It is way smarter that our not confirmeds lazy people get masoned together. If scum can double stack or something crazy than I am dead and I am somewhat confirmed town. Better Mason SnB/kush/marv/VA and then if they kill one of those marv is still alive and a more unconfirmed guy is dead.

Dnu how you set that up but you should.

I am afk now for couple hours. Got soccer.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 17:13 GMT
#3971
When I said marv earlier I meant sentinel obviously.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 19:56 GMT
#3973
Silence there is.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 20:51 GMT
#3975
It was pretty dumb but would be cool if you told us if it is either Oats or Prome that is scum or none at all.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 20:56 GMT
#3977
Not that I have the biggest problem with lynching Sentinel. But it would make this setup quite OP for town. Unless there are 4 scums and it is like rayn/Kush/Sentinel that is left.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 21:00 GMT
#3980
Well, it is safe to say that if rayn is town, this is the end of an era.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 21:06 GMT
#3989
Wait. Is marv irl also fabulous and amazing?
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 22:11 GMT
#4000
On November 05 2013 07:05 HotCottonCandy wrote:
so that's why it was "President of United States" when he roleclaimed lol

first thing I thought as well :D
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 22:13 GMT
#4002
doc Koshi
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 22:19 GMT
#4004
Day 1 Policy lynch
Day 2 Scum lynch with strong case
Day 3 Scum lynch due to strong town leader

What will bring Day 4? Nobody knows. Except that red blookd shall flow.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 22:19 GMT
#4005
damned.

Red Blood.

As in Scum Blood.

Dat typo D:
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 22:24 GMT
#4007
Maybe tomorrow we should have a Major election. I can use the practice.
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November 04 2013 22:42 GMT
#4012
Ahyeah Mayor.
See, I need the practice.

I could totes win vs marv.
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 22:46 GMT
#4014
On November 05 2013 07:33 OOHCHILD wrote:
So Koshi town leader now? Tell me what to do sir, and i shall sheep you.

Just relax, take a couple good naps, and eat some sweet candy.
I will sure your favorite actress comes to your home to give you foot massages, while I win the game for YOU!! So that with maximum pleasure you get a win and you can pull yourself out of that mafia depression, which let's be honest was purely evul marv his fault. This heathen made you believe he was scum, it was not your fault.

##Vote Koshi4Mayor
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Koshi
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November 04 2013 22:47 GMT
#4015
##Shun evulmarv
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November 04 2013 22:52 GMT
#4016
On November 05 2013 07:34 HotCottonCandy wrote:
I want mayornnaise, the people demand it

You ask mayonnaise? I am from Belgium. We got the best mayonnaise in the world. It is so good that we eat Fries with our mayonnaise while lesser Mayors would make you eat Fries with sour Mayonnaise. A little bird told me that marv hates mayonnaise, if he would ever become Mayor he would force you to eat Fries with dust. Probably without the Fries.

Vote for wellness. Vote for happiness. Vote Koshi

##Vote Koshi4Mayor

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Koshi
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November 05 2013 00:46 GMT
#4022
Ok so I cant sleep. Dnu wtf that is all about.
But I am thinking that Sentinel is not scum with rayn because the nuke thing.
Also I or someone should check when rayn nuked oats. Was it before Seuss was in trouble?
Also VA is cleared with the twitter follower claim thingie imo. That and clean filter.

So it's between Kush Prome and Oats imho.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 00:47 GMT
#4023
And if it is Kush and game is not over I go for SnB.
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November 05 2013 07:44 GMT
#4033
Do we believe that NK can be roleblocked? Most of the time that is the case right?
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 08:21 GMT
#4035
On November 01 2013 08:03 Pandain wrote:
Conclusion and Overall Look


1. SnB's play is more like his play in Thug Life then TL Noir

2. SnB has been posting like a scum and not like a town. He is appearing town by posting analysis, but failing to try to catch and find scum by failing to engage in town discourse or really push his reads. He gave poor reasons for lynching WoS and I don't like how he just ignored Clarity.

3. I simply don't like his abrupt nuke on HCC

4. I don't get the feeling he genuinely cares about this game. He is on a 6 game streak and is playing not just poor but like somewhat uninterested despite all his posting.
Larger Context
Here is my current reads:
Promethelax
WaveofShadow
Pandain

[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster
Koshi
strongandbig
OOHCHILD
marvellosity
Seuss Onegu
Clarity_nl
HotCottonCandy
raynpelikoneet

I believe the Mafia to be in Sentinel, Koshi, SnB, OOHchild, Seuss/Onegu, and HCC.
Let's say three scum since there are 13 people.


I'd be willing to switch from SnB to any of these people except Sentinel, but this is why I believe SnB to be scum.

These were Pandain his reads before the whole Seuss thing. But we know he was on SnB his ass like a madman.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 08:29 GMT
#4036
On November 01 2013 14:40 Pandain wrote:
I'm probably totally wrong but that's okay, if I'm wrong I'll just improve as a person and player after the game.

Promethelax
WaveofShadow
Pandain
[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster

Koshi
strongandbig
OOHCHILD

marvellosity
Seuss Onegu
Clarity_nl
HotCottonCandy
raynpelikoneet



So ideally, there you have it. Assuming 3 scum and an SK, that's it.

On November 01 2013 14:40 OOHCHILD wrote:
Promethelax
]Pandain
[UoN]Sentinel
Oatsmaster
Koshi
strongandbig
OOHCHILD
marvellosity
Seuss Onegu
HotCottonCandy
raynpelikoneet


this is where im at right now


Well Pandain updated his reads. Also Kush gave reads.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 08:32 GMT
#4038
Nothing really. But it helps maybe. Like Pandain was killed for reason right?
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November 05 2013 08:33 GMT
#4039
Page 132 makes me believe that you (Oats) are not scum. And it makes me believe that we need to lynch Kush/Snb
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November 05 2013 08:35 GMT
#4040
Pandain is harddefending rayn against you (Oats) while the only people he wants to push are OOHCHILD/SnB/Koshi and Seuss.

Then N2 he knows I am town and I think Pandain was on scum only except for rayn.
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November 05 2013 08:37 GMT
#4041
So we kill Kush/SnB.

rayn is also not completely dumb. So him focussing our blues 24/7 might be a ploy to let us lynch in there. rayn only pushed marv/Oats/Prome after D1.
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November 05 2013 08:45 GMT
#4043
Ok, but that is useless if KP is not fractional and blockable. Because marv already did a RB on Prome, so me tracking him doesn't help us.
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November 05 2013 08:47 GMT
#4044
If hosts say that KP is blockable we don't lynch Prome. We also have to admit that both your roles are quite bad, if there is a scum Framer.
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November 05 2013 08:47 GMT
#4045
I am feeling real good about lynching SnB/Kush atm.
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November 05 2013 08:49 GMT
#4046
Or Sentinel for that matter. If VA could just try to convince us -_-. This VA reminds me of Persona, he was on johnnywup for the entire game but VA is no lynch pusher.
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November 05 2013 08:51 GMT
#4047
You know what? WoS was killed because it is 9 vs 4. Scum was playing the short game, they kill WoS and get lylo in 2 misslynches.
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November 05 2013 08:52 GMT
#4048
That's why rayn kinda showed face protecting Seuss I think.
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November 05 2013 09:10 GMT
#4049
Oh yeah. I am totes right.

Look.
9 vs 4
8 vs 4 Clarity
7 vs 4 WoS
6 vs 4 with minus vote on Seuss that could kinda lie about his power (remember wrong use of name) and not use it to use it 1 day later. The misslynch rayn was pushing was Oats I think. But he shouldn't have nuked him 0o
5 vs 4 disaster because scum controls lynch.
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November 05 2013 09:25 GMT
#4051
wow rayn was pushing obvious scum agenda, he was being absurd about 4 town blue roles because he wanted to lynch in there. Like the part where he was saying somebody was even lying about his ##power up and just made it up...

Kush pushed marv. SnBis apathic.

FINAL ANSWER.

(Till somebody else posts and I am not spamming alone)
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November 05 2013 09:26 GMT
#4052
On November 05 2013 18:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
What?
Marv isnt RBing Prome. Prome is supposed to mason people.

Marv did RB on Prome N2. If a "blue" is scum, it is 9 vs 3. Prome would have done the kill.
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November 05 2013 10:03 GMT
#4057
I think we need to kill SnB.
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November 05 2013 10:11 GMT
#4059
I think Seuss kinda added SnB as his only scum in his reads... Imagine that.

WoS made case on SnB.
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 31 2013 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 01:55 marvellosity wrote:
On October 31 2013 01:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 31 2013 01:50 strongandbig wrote:
On October 31 2013 01:41 Pandain wrote:
Does anyone disagree SnB is scum btw?

I do

Why am I scum

No one has made a case I can respond to

Also I'm not

Also I'm probably dying at the end of night anyway

I will. Give me a few. And marv preflip association bad. I don't want to assume OOHCHILD is scum hard-defending SnB yet.

Please don't tell me what's good and bad, I was doing it in association with Prome's own read on OOHCHILD, and it didn't tain my own read. I don't need teaching how to play the game.

How am I supposed to know what affects your read and what doesn't?
Everybody needs reminders sometimes, even you, o unfallible one.

Regarding SnB:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 05:46 strongandbig wrote:
On October 30 2013 05:34 Pandain wrote:
Day one scum try to contribute and appear town, but aren't that actually dedicated.

They usually aren't retarded, think through their posts, and still don't try to help town atmosphere.

All the things a scum would do on day one I see in SnB

which of these things are not also things a townie without much time would do? i guess the thread atmosphere thing, but how am i hurting thread atmosphere?

On October 30 2013 05:42 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2013 05:39 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 03:48 strongandbig wrote:
Also - I'm starting to worry about sentinel's mystery countdown power and why he still hasn't told us what it does. Despite calling koshi scum for not telling us what his power does.

I dunno about s&b. This post is pretty bad because Sentinel has talked about his power so many times, I don't see the point in bringing it up again.

Then again it looks like s&b actually made genuine effort to go and look at Pandain's games earlier when he talked about his big posts


Problem is SnB also made a genuine effort to point out why Palmar was scum in Thug life. SnB can go hard to explain a read he's confident in when it benefits you.

The problem is even if he did, was that in the approach to help town or to explain himself. If it's to help town, why share it when really I wasn't under any suspicion. If it's to explain himself, it makes sense to defend me as I'm town and that will be revealed later/he's ultimately right.

I don't think SnB is giving an effort to help town, I think his effort ultimately only shows that he's interested in appearing town by posting reads.

Has he really attempted to change this lynch or help drive a lynch?

dude you were on my team, you KNOW that wasn't a genuine effort because I knew palmar was scum because he was ON A TEAM WITH THE TWO OF US
also did even that case didn't involve any actual research into palmar's past games

also i forgot that sentinel claimed he doesn't know what his power does. but why is saying that scum motivated.

last thing, why would i have attempted to change the lynch when i like it

What are you referring to here exactly?

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On October 30 2013 11:42 strongandbig wrote:
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Decided to nuke HCC because (a) I don't like the way he swapped to pandain from wave for no reason, (b) don't like how he powered up koshi for no reason at the very start if the game then attacked people for doing the same to sentinel, (c) don't like how he only talks about me and oo while yelling about going after easy targets, (d) general feeling.

This bothers me because I feel like a ton of people did exactly the same thing but you're trying to find a way to justify your nuke on VA.

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On October 30 2013 23:19 strongandbig wrote:
On October 30 2013 21:43 marvellosity wrote:
On October 30 2013 21:41 strongandbig wrote:
It's too late for more nukes
And Marv I'm just surprised people are multi nuking me rather than any of the other actually scummy people around

Which two people would you flip right now if you had the chance?

Well, I'm actually kind of unsure now about wos. Once pandain made my vote not matter I didn't have to decide whether I believed the turnaround. So like, I would be happy if he flipped but I'm not sure I want to flip him.

I think I'd go with ooh child and vayne.

Sent I'm struggling with because I feel like the way he played is antitown but I can't see his power going to mafia unless they're all fake. So if they turn out to be all fake nukes at the day post then sentinel.

Actially nm I think I still would put wos on the list above sentinel. I just get really bad feelings about how self-focused he was early in day 1 on people who attacked him despite the pressure being largely superficial.

I suppose I understand your reasoning at the end of the post regarding why you still want me to flip, but I don't understand why you said you were unsure in the beginning.

I also don't understand---do you think OOHCHILD/Vayne/me are all scum together? Because i'm not sure that is possible.


Pandain was on SnB his ass. (remember the long ass post by post)
and ultimatly made this:
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On November 02 2013 07:44 Pandain wrote:
Honestly I think Rayn/Kush takes highest priority.

Ultimately, Oats/SnB relies on assumption logic, that scum reacted a certain way, that Oats would try to defend Seuss, that Seuss would put blame on Oats[he was pretty adamant on Oats up until he left].

It's all inference.

But I think it's ultimately less inference that WoS got shot for one of his reads. I don't think it's a far reach at all to say that he wouldn't have been shot for being town and just town, he had to have been right on something. Even if Ver was playing, if he was wrong about everything you could even keep him alive.

And he was suspicious of Rayne, so that's something. Rayn was gone during this lynch for a nap. (where's the rayn that is leading town! that loves mafia!) Rayn has a role which has several inherent powers. See Seuss's role. Also makes perfect sense for third party. Rayn has claimed to mis-read his role like 3 times. Rayn claimed a seemingly very important role, which shows a lack of fear of getting shot. Or if he was SK, then he wouldn't really need to be afraid.

All the town roles we know (Miley Cyrus; (Koshi what's yours?), President, Total Biscuit, Oprah) are all twitter celebrities. So far the scum we see, and the day post indicates, are people who have something against twitter. Anthony weiner and an old man who hates twitter makes perfect sense . I also ultimately agree that having a role which does have PM-abilities to activate his power is pretty suspicious when contrasted with the rest of us.



Day 1. Policy lynch
Day 2. Scum lynch (case)
Day 3. Scum lynch (Town leader)
Day 4. Scum lynch ( Revenge for dead townies)
Day 5. Scum surrender.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 10:33 GMT
#4064
It makes too much sense.
WoS kill was senseless. The guy had Seuss as townread...
The best reason is that it is 9 vs 4 and scum would outnumber town in 2 misslynches because they have Seuss minus vote when it is 5 vs 4. But us lynching Seuss ruined that plan.

Pandain was killed for his reads. The guy had SnB/Kush/Seuss//Koshi as his reads early day 2!! That's crazy.
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November 05 2013 10:34 GMT
#4065
Why else was Pandain killed? I am pretty sure they figured out the CobraTank.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 10:37 GMT
#4066
Well, if this is true I claim Town MVP.
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November 05 2013 10:41 GMT
#4069
ok ok ok
Such a party pooper. Tss
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 10:45 GMT
#4073
Damned. We really sucked with our blue roles. Like why would you doc me. We should have RB 2 of our 3 scumreads.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 10:56 GMT
#4075
Come on, read Kush filter. He is blatantly pushing marv/prom as misslycnhes.

Kush is totes scum. SnB is totes scum.

Scum surrender and give me my Town MVP award.
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November 05 2013 11:02 GMT
#4078
What's so crazy about that?
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November 05 2013 11:03 GMT
#4079
It's not a sabotage. Somebody can't power us up and he can let the thread know it.

It's the worst power if you are town. Why would you ever use it???
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November 05 2013 11:04 GMT
#4080
Marv, I know this is difficult. But you need to accept it.

+ Show Spoiler +
Koshi Town MVP
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November 05 2013 11:13 GMT
#4082
Do you know what Kush power is? Kush can remove people their twitter power. This means that:
Pandain, WoS could not use their power.
A guy can't power up Koshi/Oats/marv/Prome.

But town blues would not be sabotaged because the guy that was targetted by Kush would got a message that he can't power up people.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 11:14 GMT
#4083
It's 100% anti-town. Kush was just silly and told the entire thread.
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November 05 2013 11:14 GMT
#4084
Dude. marv. I am 100% Koshi guarantee on Kush.
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November 05 2013 11:17 GMT
#4087
Ah yes. Now I see. 0o

Ok cool. We cool. We cool.
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November 05 2013 11:17 GMT
#4089
YOU SHALL BURN
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November 05 2013 11:35 GMT
#4097
On October 29 2013 10:04 Seuss wrote:
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On October 29 2013 09:56 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:47 Seuss wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as.

I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential.
Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv.

I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes.

Too bad.
If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while.

You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS.

So Clarity pushing an obviously bad case makes him scum?
I see the point you make regarding he should know he's bad and not push it, but I posit that it's entirely possible that, you know, he wouldn't be pushing a bad case in the first place if he was scum because it looks like shit and would cause these problems for himself.

I agreed with your 'yuck' I am not convinced it's bad-scum.

And yet you're convinced enough that OOCHILD would make himself blatantly voteable by doing absolutely nothing and posting shit? That's more convincing to you? Ok Wave.


There's a notable difference between OOCHILD and Clarity_nl, effort. It takes effort to make an argument, even a bad one. It takes zero effort to do nothing and/or post utter shit.

Correct, and scum are liable to put some effort in, whereas usually players who do literally nothing (hello nyxnyxnyx) are the townies. Pretty surprised you're making this argument given how your game went actually. The scummers in your game actually put in effort, bad effort.


I have unshakeable faith in the lurker policy lynch.

I'm probably just biased because the lurkers in that game really made it a hair-pulling experience. Their presence was always looming in the background whenever I tried to make sense of anything, and it frustrated me (especially because it turned out they were all town, ugh). But you're right, there's a logical disconnect between "God lurkers are horrible and should all die" and "lurkers are scum and should be lynched".

On October 29 2013 10:21 Seuss wrote:
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On October 29 2013 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
As long as we're clear, Seuss, that you're policy lynching and not actually aiming for mafia.


Yeah. I honestly don't find OOHCHILD scummy or worth a lynch, but I voted for him and didn't say that aloud because I was hoping he'd feel pressure and post.

Isn't this kinda claiming that he won't leave his vote there? These are the 2 posts Seuss made right after voting Kush. Seuss is actually not pressuring shit. He just leaves vote there for a second.
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November 05 2013 11:36 GMT
#4099
On October 29 2013 09:47 Seuss wrote:
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On October 29 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
I'm sorry, I'm trying not to comment on too many inconsequential things, but this is ludicrous. If someone is capable of smurfing, then someone is capable of looking at the top left to see who they're signed in as rather than having to post "test". This is spectacularly dumb, Wave.

Really?
Well I guess all of the smurfslips we've seen in past games are.....what exactly?

Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as.

I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential.
Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv.

I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes.

Too bad.
If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while.

You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS.

So Clarity pushing an obviously bad case makes him scum?
I see the point you make regarding he should know he's bad and not push it, but I posit that it's entirely possible that, you know, he wouldn't be pushing a bad case in the first place if he was scum because it looks like shit and would cause these problems for himself.

I agreed with your 'yuck' I am not convinced it's bad-scum.

And yet you're convinced enough that OOCHILD would make himself blatantly voteable by doing absolutely nothing and posting shit? That's more convincing to you? Ok Wave.


There's a notable difference between OOCHILD and Clarity_nl, effort. It takes effort to make an argument, even a bad one. It takes zero effort to do nothing and/or post utter shit.

damn I forgot this one. This was the first post after his "pressure" on Kush.

He already starts saying Kush made more effort than Clarity.
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November 05 2013 11:38 GMT
#4101
On November 05 2013 20:36 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 05 2013 20:35 Koshi wrote:
On October 29 2013 10:04 Seuss wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:56 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:47 Seuss wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes.

Too bad.
If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while.

You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS.

So Clarity pushing an obviously bad case makes him scum?
I see the point you make regarding he should know he's bad and not push it, but I posit that it's entirely possible that, you know, he wouldn't be pushing a bad case in the first place if he was scum because it looks like shit and would cause these problems for himself.

I agreed with your 'yuck' I am not convinced it's bad-scum.

And yet you're convinced enough that OOCHILD would make himself blatantly voteable by doing absolutely nothing and posting shit? That's more convincing to you? Ok Wave.


There's a notable difference between OOCHILD and Clarity_nl, effort. It takes effort to make an argument, even a bad one. It takes zero effort to do nothing and/or post utter shit.

Correct, and scum are liable to put some effort in, whereas usually players who do literally nothing (hello nyxnyxnyx) are the townies. Pretty surprised you're making this argument given how your game went actually. The scummers in your game actually put in effort, bad effort.


I have unshakeable faith in the lurker policy lynch.

I'm probably just biased because the lurkers in that game really made it a hair-pulling experience. Their presence was always looming in the background whenever I tried to make sense of anything, and it frustrated me (especially because it turned out they were all town, ugh). But you're right, there's a logical disconnect between "God lurkers are horrible and should all die" and "lurkers are scum and should be lynched".

On October 29 2013 10:21 Seuss wrote:
On October 29 2013 10:07 marvellosity wrote:
As long as we're clear, Seuss, that you're policy lynching and not actually aiming for mafia.


Yeah. I honestly don't find OOHCHILD scummy or worth a lynch, but I voted for him and didn't say that aloud because I was hoping he'd feel pressure and post.

Isn't this kinda claiming that he won't leave his vote there? These are the 2 posts Seuss made right after voting Kush. Seuss is actually not pressuring shit. He just leaves vote there for a second.

He only said these things under significant pressure from me to explain his vote

Yes, and do you see how he is already making sure you don't pressure him more when he removes his vote? He is already giving reasons to move off Kush.
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November 05 2013 11:38 GMT
#4102
On November 05 2013 20:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 20:36 Koshi wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:47 Seuss wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:12 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 29 2013 09:03 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
Are people not looking at who they're signed in as. If you're thinking enough to post "test" then you're thinking enough to look at who you're signed in as.

I disagree, but like you said, inconsequential.
Convince me that Clarity is scum, marv.

I literally could not have said anymore, and I think it's pretty dodgy you're saying this. Stop being bad please, it's giving me scumvibes.

Too bad.
If you want me to lynch your target then you should be looking to convince me, no? I'm not convinced. Be back in a little while.

You, yourself, said "yuck" to Clarity's post, and since then, he just went to play dota and disappeared? Why aren't *you* convinced given what you've posted, or at least convinced enough to vote him over OOCHILD? That's really weak, WoS.

So Clarity pushing an obviously bad case makes him scum?
I see the point you make regarding he should know he's bad and not push it, but I posit that it's entirely possible that, you know, he wouldn't be pushing a bad case in the first place if he was scum because it looks like shit and would cause these problems for himself.

I agreed with your 'yuck' I am not convinced it's bad-scum.

And yet you're convinced enough that OOCHILD would make himself blatantly voteable by doing absolutely nothing and posting shit? That's more convincing to you? Ok Wave.


There's a notable difference between OOCHILD and Clarity_nl, effort. It takes effort to make an argument, even a bad one. It takes zero effort to do nothing and/or post utter shit.

damn I forgot this one. This was the first post after his "pressure" on Kush.

He already starts saying Kush made more effort than Clarity.

no it's the other way round

Ah damned. You are ruining my tunnel.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 12:14 GMT
#4105
Does rayn have the balls to send that nuke to Oats? Nothing was wrong for scum at that point.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 12:16 GMT
#4107
Do you think that once the nuke is sent, rayn could delay it? Or is it before that you had to send the nuke?
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November 05 2013 12:18 GMT
#4109
arff. rayn showed face protecting Seuss. I almost can't believe he would send a nuke to Oats.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 12:19 GMT
#4110
On November 05 2013 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think delay came into it.

The issue is this - if the nuke IS real and hits Oats as town, rayn really looks terrible. To other people, not just me.

rayn is really well known for being able to read Oats.

But if they can secure a misslynch the game is won. It would be 4 vs 4 after NK. (If it is 9 vs 4)
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 12:20 GMT
#4112
Or even without NK and nuke on Oats it is 5 vs 4 and they got Kush that can block Pandain and Seuss that can minus a vote from one of us.
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November 05 2013 12:27 GMT
#4116
But he was America America.
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November 05 2013 12:37 GMT
#4118
On November 05 2013 21:33 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 05 2013 21:27 Koshi wrote:
But he was America America.

Bingo! Made a thought breakthrough

Sentinel isn't scumbuddies with rayn, all the nukes are fake, it literally makes no sense that only mafia get a real nuke, therefore rayn knows the nuke is fake.

Yeah, the fact that Onegu didn't fire that Nuke is somewhat indicative they knew. As in 100%. Which makes me doubt if Sentinel is either town, or scum and knew that the nuke were fake.

VA needs to explain his sentinel read tbh.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 12:46 GMT
#4122
You are so cautious today marv. We need marv guarantee at the end of the night.
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November 05 2013 12:54 GMT
#4125
Oats, who do you think is scum?
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November 05 2013 13:00 GMT
#4130
On November 05 2013 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think Prome and either SnB Or HCC or OOHCHILD.
Currently SnB top

There aren't going to be 4 scums with a powerup scum. That's quite insane.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 13:18 GMT
#4141
The big things are pretty big though.
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November 05 2013 13:22 GMT
#4144
Marv should jail me and I will RB Kush or SnB.
If nobody dies I am scum or the guy I RB is scum.
If somebody dies we lynch the guy I didn't RB.

Prome should Mason Kush with Oats or something like that.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 13:23 GMT
#4145
If I die you lynch marv. Cuz no bigplays allowed.
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November 05 2013 13:25 GMT
#4148
What? Oo
I can't die when I get jailed.
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November 05 2013 13:27 GMT
#4151
On November 04 2013 04:51 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On November 04 2013 04:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Player A roleblocks Player B, and Player B on the same phase roleblocks Player C, does Player B's action go through and does Player C get roleblocked?

Yes, both players are roleblocked.

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Koshi
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November 05 2013 13:28 GMT
#4152
On November 05 2013 22:27 marvellosity wrote:
I prefer to medic you while you track somebody. Tracking seems like harder confirmation to me.

isn't that the same? I'll ask the hosts.

But with jailer you also clear me as scum.
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November 05 2013 13:32 GMT
#4155
Actually. You are also allowed to watch me tbh.
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November 05 2013 13:32 GMT
#4156
If I die. I died for the greater good.
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November 05 2013 13:32 GMT
#4158
You should watch me tbh.
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November 05 2013 13:32 GMT
#4159
awww D:
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November 05 2013 13:33 GMT
#4160
Who didn't twerk you?
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November 05 2013 13:43 GMT
#4163
Ow only 8 alive atm. yeah.

Well medic it is. I'll track or RB depending on what hosts say.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 13:44 GMT
#4164
I agree now there is only going to be 3 scums. But it is still not going to be Prome/Oats.

It's SnB. Then Kush.
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 13:45 GMT
#4166
no. I still think there are 4.
WoS for short win.
Pandain for reads.

I believe.
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November 05 2013 13:45 GMT
#4167
Ok ok I track.
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November 05 2013 13:48 GMT
#4169
Oh Kush you are not using your power tonight. just saying.
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November 05 2013 15:34 GMT
#4174
On November 06 2013 00:32 strongandbig wrote:
As for who is scum. Here's the thing.
I kind of still think one of the charger roles is scum, and here's why.
Night 1, when rayn "accidentally" sent the wrong power to Marv. The whole time, he acted as though he always knew that the "-1" power was the "helpful" power and the "+1" power was the "harmful" power.

I really don't think this was the natural/intuitive assumption. The vast majority of the time, numbers in roles refer to the ability or strength of the role. How many KP you can block as medic or jailor; how many KP you deal as a vig; how many targets you can choose for any role, but especially as eg a list checker or other multiuse role. Like, if I was a scumteam with that power, I would be really worried about making a 1/2 KP vig into a real vig, powering up a list checker, or making a role that said "target 1 player to watch/detect/doctor/etc".

Plus, even if you only talk about costs, it could just as easily be worded as "your starting power level is X + the number of people who Twerk" or even as "you gain 1 power for each person who twerks."

The fact that rayn used the increase power on Marv and then immediately started walking it back makes means he knew it was the "harmful" power to Marv. The only way he could have known that is if there is a scum charge-up power role.

It is explained in his role pm...
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Koshi
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November 05 2013 15:49 GMT
#4182
Hmmm. Ok maybe maybe.
Still. My tunnel on SnB makes me believe he knows this because they discussed it in scum QT.
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November 05 2013 15:57 GMT
#4183
On November 06 2013 00:32 strongandbig wrote:
As for who is scum. Here's the thing.
I kind of still think one of the charger roles is scum, and here's why.
Night 1, when rayn "accidentally" sent the wrong power to Marv. The whole time, he acted as though he always knew that the "-1" power was the "helpful" power and the "+1" power was the "harmful" power.

I really don't think this was the natural/intuitive assumption. The vast majority of the time, numbers in roles refer to the ability or strength of the role. How many KP you can block as medic or jailor; how many KP you deal as a vig; how many targets you can choose for any role, but especially as eg a list checker or other multiuse role. Like, if I was a scumteam with that power, I would be really worried about making a 1/2 KP vig into a real vig, powering up a list checker, or making a role that said "target 1 player to watch/detect/doctor/etc".

Plus, even if you only talk about costs, it could just as easily be worded as "your starting power level is X + the number of people who Twerk" or even as "you gain 1 power for each person who twerks."

The fact that rayn used the increase power on Marv and then immediately started walking it back makes means he knew it was the "harmful" power to Marv. The only way he could have known that is if there is a scum charge-up power role.

So is it marv/Koshi/Prome/Oats?
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November 05 2013 16:15 GMT
#4189
On November 06 2013 01:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sorry man Seuss, I have problems explaining myself coherently

The Prome and WoS was something I was thinking about.

Reading through Seuss's filter. Found this interesting. Oats isn't usually apologetic to people like this.

Again, you point out absolutely useless shit in order to make me look bad. Do I do this as scum? Why would I be more likely to do this as scum rather than town? How does me apologizing to Seuss make me scumteam with him?

Dat marv such a noob. I would never point out something silly like that.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 04 2013 04:56 Koshi wrote:
Yeah I forgot about the whole Oats saying Sorry to Seuss thingie. That's also why I thought they were scum together way before I made my case on Seuss.

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November 05 2013 16:16 GMT
#4191
^ was replying to myself there.
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November 05 2013 16:17 GMT
#4194
On November 06 2013 01:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nice job koshi. Real fucking useful.

Hey, I am totes on your side. SnB and Kush last scummers.
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November 05 2013 16:18 GMT
#4197
Oh I had a really cool meme ready for when rayn was asking why he was getting lynched. But I was on mobile and couldn't make. Maybe I can keep it for Oats.
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November 05 2013 16:19 GMT
#4198
Hmm I forgot to type some words there. Oh well. I am tired atm.
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November 05 2013 16:38 GMT
#4207
I noted it down.
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November 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#4215
Hmm I got to go out again tonight but you should give 80-100% guarantee or note down the reasons. I think I like SnB/Kush more for scum. We will see. Probably back before the deadline now it is 1 hour later;
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November 05 2013 21:24 GMT
#4252
Is it resolution period?
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November 05 2013 21:26 GMT
#4254
I jailed marv btw.

Reasons:
1) Hosts don't want to tell me if track/RB works on works.
2) Whatever the fuck happens tonight we lynch Oats. Unless I actually find the last scummer, but I think the % that they got for Marv > the percentage I track the right scum AND it is visible for me.
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November 05 2013 21:28 GMT
#4256
I told you not to do big plays.
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November 05 2013 21:29 GMT
#4258
Another reason is if both marv and me are alive we can actually block multiple people the next night.
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November 05 2013 22:13 GMT
#4266
*kisses*
##Vote: Oatsmaster

The million dollar question is:
Did I block Marv doing the NK?
*dum dum dum*
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November 05 2013 22:28 GMT
#4268
So how much is your Jailer/RB?

We need to set rules so that I can track Kush and you can RB SnB. Something like that.
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November 05 2013 22:36 GMT
#4270
I don't really know how scum is planning to win this.
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November 05 2013 22:41 GMT
#4271
These are the rules:
Make sure that you can get either RB by marv or Koshi. Asking how should get rewarded with a lynch.

##Twerk
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November 05 2013 22:42 GMT
#4272
Just to be sure...

SnB and Kush should not be Twerking today.
SnB and Kush should Update Koshi.
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November 05 2013 23:05 GMT
#4279
Indeed somewhat strange but let's hope you can IRC with SnB and figure him truly out.
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November 05 2013 23:18 GMT
#4282
I don't see why you can't power all 4 up.
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November 05 2013 23:19 GMT
#4285
Unless you want an epic showdown between you (VA) and Sentinel tomorrow.
IRC style

Then paste it in chat if you are victorious.
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November 05 2013 23:19 GMT
#4286
awww too late D:
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November 05 2013 23:23 GMT
#4288
Prome, did you ask to the host that SnB would get the Mason message even if marv died?
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November 05 2013 23:23 GMT
#4289
But I need sleep. gn.
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November 06 2013 08:16 GMT
#4331
Hey Oats.
Could you do ##Update Koshi and ##Twerk?
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November 06 2013 08:19 GMT
#4332
After that. Could you show me a towngame of yours that is resembling this game?
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November 06 2013 09:09 GMT
#4335
Problem is that I remember you as somebody who gathers townreads rather than scumreads early on. While this game you jumped on everything and then some to make somebody look scummy at the start.
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November 06 2013 09:18 GMT
#4337
I'll go read stuffz.
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November 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#4341
I looked at all games and I can't tell if Oats is scum. Doesn't make him town.

But I feel him as town.
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November 06 2013 10:06 GMT
#4343
I will sheep no worries.
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November 06 2013 10:13 GMT
#4344
Sentinel if you are scum you should surrender now and give me Town MVP trophy.
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November 06 2013 10:13 GMT
#4345
FINAL ANSWER
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November 06 2013 10:15 GMT
#4346
If there is a 4th scum I am going to say Kush.
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November 06 2013 10:39 GMT
#4348
How do you explain WoS kill when the scumteam is Seuss/rayn/Oats? How do you explain Pandain kill?
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November 06 2013 10:40 GMT
#4349
No final answer is 2 out Kush/SnB/Sentinel
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November 06 2013 10:46 GMT
#4351
On November 06 2013 19:40 marvellosity wrote:
why not? i don't really understand your question

WoS wasn't onto any of them. We can agree that Seuss is the weakest member in that scumteam and WoS had a townread on Seuss.
The only reason that they killed WoS was for:
1) His spell powerup
2) His read on SnB. He was on SnB for ages. Tripplestacked him. Made cases against him.
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November 06 2013 10:50 GMT
#4354
WoS was kinda really good btw. You should read that filter. Good pressure on rayn/Kush/SnB and a little on Oats/VA
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November 06 2013 10:52 GMT
#4357
On November 06 2013 19:51 marvellosity wrote:
I'd argue Seuss was a more valuable team-member than s&b anyway (he was trying harder, he writes properly, who cares if he's not a vet) by how they were playing, so killing WoS who was the one with a townread on Seuss just because he HAD been suspicious of s&b (but wasn't anymore really) seems like it isn't a reason at all

Exactly. That's why they killed him for his power. Which they would only do if they were with 4.

It's 9 vs 4 and Oats is town.
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November 06 2013 10:53 GMT
#4359
Btw, they did RB on Oats N1. They all powered up Oats and then RB on him.
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November 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#4362
On November 06 2013 19:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 19:53 Koshi wrote:
Btw, they did RB on Oats N1. They all powered up Oats and then RB on him.

Since when?

The game makes sense to me now.
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November 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#4364
This game is solved for me. Oats is not scum.

2 out of SnB/Kush/Sentinel are.
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November 06 2013 11:03 GMT
#4367
I am certain it is like this. If it isn't I am sad because this would be a Sherlock Holmes ending to this game.

We could have this
1) Policy lynch
2) Scum lynch
3) Scum lynch
4) Scum lynch -> Scum surrender

But now we will have
1) Policy lynch
2) Scum lynch
3) Scum lynch
4) marv is butthurt lynch
5) Scum lynch
6) town lynch because we will pick the town out of SnB/Kush/Sentinel
7) we pray too jeebus for a scum lynch
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November 06 2013 11:15 GMT
#4372
I don't like it. At all.
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November 06 2013 11:24 GMT
#4376
On November 06 2013 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
Like, just glancing over the OP, there is almost certainly a 3p, and the setup almost certainly isn't 8-4-1 because that would be really really stupid.

The OP is a lie.
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November 06 2013 11:25 GMT
#4378
On November 06 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
I bet you my TL signature that the setup isn't 9-4, I bet everything I know of mafia and the universe.

ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. Noted down. In return I will give you town MVP if we finish before D5 ends.
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November 06 2013 11:52 GMT
#4380
This is why 9 vs 4 makes sense to me.

Scum starts with 4 members
They look at their powers and understand that they can win the game when it is 5 vs 4.
They see that there are 4 town blues asking for power ups.
They plan to lynch into them on Day 2 and win the game Day 3 (5 vs 4) using Seuss his minus vote which he lied about. Both marv and VA are showing willingness to lynch into the blues during the first cycle. Mafia plan to win on Day 3 is looking perfect.
Day 2 starts with Pandain giving out his reads and giving SnB/Kush/Seuss/Koshi scumreads, you can see that rayn from harddefending Pandain the entire Day 1, goes to “Koshi let’s talk about Pandain again” because his reads are good. At the end of Day 2 Pandain gave you reasons to why Oats is town, at the end of Night 2 Pandain ended with:
On November 02 2013 07:44 Pandain wrote:
Honestly I think Rayn/Kush takes highest priority.

Ultimately, Oats/SnB relies on assumption logic, that scum reacted a certain way, that Oats would try to defend Seuss, that Seuss would put blame on Oats[he was pretty adamant on Oats up until he left].

It's all inference.

But I think it's ultimately less inference that WoS got shot for one of his reads. I don't think it's a far reach at all to say that he wouldn't have been shot for being town and just town, he had to have been right on something. Even if Ver was playing, if he was wrong about everything you could even keep him alive.

And he was suspicious of Rayne, so that's something. Rayn was gone during this lynch for a nap. (where's the rayn that is leading town! that loves mafia!) Rayn has a role which has several inherent powers. See Seuss's role. Also makes perfect sense for third party. Rayn has claimed to mis-read his role like 3 times. Rayn claimed a seemingly very important role, which shows a lack of fear of getting shot. Or if he was SK, then he wouldn't really need to be afraid.

All the town roles we know (Miley Cyrus; (Koshi what's yours?), President, Total Biscuit, Oprah) are all twitter celebrities. So far the scum we see, and the day post indicates, are people who have something against twitter. Anthony weiner and an old man who hates twitter makes perfect sense . I also ultimately agree that having a role which does have PM-abilities to activate his power is pretty suspicious when contrasted with the rest of us.

Probably last scummers are to be found here: rayn, Kush, Oats and SnB.

But with scum only being with 3 and Sentinel not being scum, how did scum know that the nukes were fakes? Rayn would not buss Oats so early and Onegu would have shot his nuke. They must have been 100% certain that the nukes had to be fake. And without Sentinel being scum that means that there are 4 scummers.
Seuss, Rayn, 2 out of SnB/Sentinel/Kush or only Sentinel.
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November 06 2013 11:54 GMT
#4382
I am going to see if VA wants to rebel and vote for somebody else.
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November 06 2013 11:56 GMT
#4384
It's perfectly logical. rayn is not bussing Oats with a nuke and then goes hardcore defense for Seuss.
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November 06 2013 11:59 GMT
#4387
Tears will flow
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November 06 2013 12:00 GMT
#4388
Also, hosts only did it to fuck with town because there are 4 scums and they know there is no 3p.
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November 06 2013 12:00 GMT
#4389
BUT TOWN SHALL PREVAIL
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November 06 2013 12:52 GMT
#4392
I did jail him 24/7
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November 06 2013 12:59 GMT
#4393
So what you think about my theory? You want to join the rebellion?
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November 06 2013 13:07 GMT
#4401
Oats, nobody cares if marv is 3p and probably he isn't 3p... like 99% town, 1% 3p

Now tell us who is scum out of SnB/Kush/Sentinel and we shall lynch the scummiest one.
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November 06 2013 13:11 GMT
#4407
On November 06 2013 22:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 22:07 Koshi wrote:
Oats, nobody cares if marv is 3p and probably he isn't 3p... like 99% town, 1% 3p

Now tell us who is scum out of SnB/Kush/Sentinel and we shall lynch the scummiest one.

Nope nobody cares.

You wanna lynch HCC?

HCC is the one I really don't want to lynch...
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November 06 2013 13:15 GMT
#4412
On November 06 2013 22:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
On November 06 2013 22:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Marv you fuck. You are tunneling. You are being bad. Do you want to spoil your REALLY GOOD GAME with a tunneled lynch on everyone including obs say was obvious townie?

no, so I'll lynch you instead.

Ok have fun berating yourself postgame even though you absolutely IGNORED everything I had to say.
Koshi, why?

Pandain had him as town.
WoS had him as town.
He plays to Persona Meta.
He does nothing scummy.

The only thing going against him is saying that Seuss was town before my case and making that big early post saying that we need to lynch into the blues/vote alterers that was a bit off depening on what Kush flips.

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November 06 2013 13:18 GMT
#4414
You are an angry old man.
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November 06 2013 13:24 GMT
#4422
On November 06 2013 22:22 OOHCHILD wrote:
*that seuss pushed me d1 when i was a wagon

Wasn't the strongest push. But I can see Sentinel being last scum if there are only 3. Otherwise it is one of you 3. Also wtf are you? A selfaware miller type of sillyness?
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November 06 2013 13:26 GMT
#4423
I am certain CCH/me/you can vote sentinel. We need 2 more.
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November 06 2013 13:26 GMT
#4424
^ to Oats.
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November 06 2013 13:28 GMT
#4428
@Kush
I know, but that role is antitown and it looks a bit like self-aware miller
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November 06 2013 13:30 GMT
#4431
On November 06 2013 22:29 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 22:28 Koshi wrote:
@Kush
I know, but that role is antitown and it looks a bit like self-aware miller


fucked up game is fucked up.

also if you are looking at flavor, oats fits WAY more with the scumteam than I do.

Only thing that seems off actually is if he knew the whole scumteam were politicians, why would you claim politician??

marv??

He didn't claim it. Refudiate is a word that Sarah Paling invented
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November 06 2013 13:32 GMT
#4440
On November 06 2013 22:31 strongandbig wrote:
Koshi if you think oats is town do you think prome is scum? Or else how did rayn know how powers worked?

This is a good point.
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November 06 2013 13:35 GMT
#4446
On October 29 2013 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay marv this looks much better. First things first. You will not get the PM until the deadline, i asked about it from the hosts. This is important. As that is the case, consider my twerk null. Another interesting thing. Your Promethelax "townslip" thingy, or what makes you think he is town. I find that reasonable, although i am not sure if i agree with that. I know i could, as scum, do what you are giving Prome a townread for. What is really interesting about it is WoS' reaction to the post. He doesn't seem to be agreeing with what you said as his vote yet remains on Prome. That's not what's weird in it however, what is weird is that he does not address the post in any way, he just let's it be like it didn't happen. If he thinks that does not make Prome town, why not say "i disagree" or something, as, by default, he should disagree with the post in case he still has a scumread on Prome.

WaveofShadow why did you not say at any point, that you disagree with marv's reasoning about Prome being town and how does that not make sense? Why you just skip over the post and not address it in any way?

I agree what's been said about Clarity, his case on Oats makes no sense given Oats' play this game and their history. If anything, Oats could be scum for making more sense than usual, but the reasons Clarity brings up are definitely bullshit. ^^

Another thing that bothers me is Seuss. When he last left the building, we had an argument going on. He never answered me after he got back. So hey Seuss, i think we got something going on between us and i think it's your turn to say something.

Prome, what do you think of marv's reasoning on you being town? Do you think he is right in what he says?

I also agree with what's been said about Koshi. He's really "quiet" and doesn't seem to be trying to do anything...

On an unrelated note (and i just post this because this is what has been bothering me in mafia sonce forever):
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 28 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 16:32 OOHCHILD wrote:
On October 28 2013 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:57 OOHCHILD wrote:
I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I have an important question for those who have not yet fully claimed.
Could your power belong to either town or mafia? Mine could.

I would like to ask a counter-questions (which should answer yours aswell).
What would be a role that could not possibly be a role for both alignments?
Also why is this so important?

After I answer you, this conversation is done as far as I am concerned. Just know that you should not expect me to answer any follow up questions you have.

What would be a role that could not possibly be a role for both alignments?

I don't know.

Also why is this so important?

I do not trust you to understand this complicated idea, so I am not going to waste my time trying to explain it.

Nice to meet you Raynpelikoneet. Your name sounds like it belongs to a species of beautiful, tropical parrot!

This is the attempt I'm going to make to reach out to you. I'm doing so under the assumption that you're a new(er) player.

Firstly, and it's been mentioned already, there is absolutely no reason to shut down discussion like you have here. If you're town, then being open and frank about your thought process is an exceedingly good way to prove your alignment, which is obviously a pretty damn important thing.

Secondly, you have absolutely no reason to condescend to someone like you've done here. It might be vaguely understandable if you were a known excellent player who had the clout to condescend, but you aren't (as far as I'm aware). There is literally no benefit to belittle rayn like this while he is trying to question you.

My problem with you, and it's a large one, is this. On one hand you are doing:

1) telling people how they will have conversations with you, arrogantly condescending to you
and on the other hand you are doing this:
2) going "oh gosh, i want to vote for this player, how do I do it hehehehe?" (my sexy paraphrasing)

This is a pretty unfortunate mix of arrogance and playing the newbie card.

If you're town, shape up.

Goddamn marv, i envy you. Purely because these kinda posts are the reason that makes me understand why you are listened in these games and i am not.

This is pretty far in D1, maybe he figured it out or it was said in the thread that we need x twerks to do shit.
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November 06 2013 13:37 GMT
#4451
On November 06 2013 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 22:35 Koshi wrote:
On October 29 2013 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay marv this looks much better. First things first. You will not get the PM until the deadline, i asked about it from the hosts. This is important. As that is the case, consider my twerk null. Another interesting thing. Your Promethelax "townslip" thingy, or what makes you think he is town. I find that reasonable, although i am not sure if i agree with that. I know i could, as scum, do what you are giving Prome a townread for. What is really interesting about it is WoS' reaction to the post. He doesn't seem to be agreeing with what you said as his vote yet remains on Prome. That's not what's weird in it however, what is weird is that he does not address the post in any way, he just let's it be like it didn't happen. If he thinks that does not make Prome town, why not say "i disagree" or something, as, by default, he should disagree with the post in case he still has a scumread on Prome.

WaveofShadow why did you not say at any point, that you disagree with marv's reasoning about Prome being town and how does that not make sense? Why you just skip over the post and not address it in any way?

I agree what's been said about Clarity, his case on Oats makes no sense given Oats' play this game and their history. If anything, Oats could be scum for making more sense than usual, but the reasons Clarity brings up are definitely bullshit. ^^

Another thing that bothers me is Seuss. When he last left the building, we had an argument going on. He never answered me after he got back. So hey Seuss, i think we got something going on between us and i think it's your turn to say something.

Prome, what do you think of marv's reasoning on you being town? Do you think he is right in what he says?

I also agree with what's been said about Koshi. He's really "quiet" and doesn't seem to be trying to do anything...

On an unrelated note (and i just post this because this is what has been bothering me in mafia sonce forever):
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 28 2013 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 16:32 OOHCHILD wrote:
On October 28 2013 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:57 OOHCHILD wrote:
I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I have an important question for those who have not yet fully claimed.
Could your power belong to either town or mafia? Mine could.

I would like to ask a counter-questions (which should answer yours aswell).
What would be a role that could not possibly be a role for both alignments?
Also why is this so important?

After I answer you, this conversation is done as far as I am concerned. Just know that you should not expect me to answer any follow up questions you have.

What would be a role that could not possibly be a role for both alignments?

I don't know.

Also why is this so important?

I do not trust you to understand this complicated idea, so I am not going to waste my time trying to explain it.

Nice to meet you Raynpelikoneet. Your name sounds like it belongs to a species of beautiful, tropical parrot!

This is the attempt I'm going to make to reach out to you. I'm doing so under the assumption that you're a new(er) player.

Firstly, and it's been mentioned already, there is absolutely no reason to shut down discussion like you have here. If you're town, then being open and frank about your thought process is an exceedingly good way to prove your alignment, which is obviously a pretty damn important thing.

Secondly, you have absolutely no reason to condescend to someone like you've done here. It might be vaguely understandable if you were a known excellent player who had the clout to condescend, but you aren't (as far as I'm aware). There is literally no benefit to belittle rayn like this while he is trying to question you.

My problem with you, and it's a large one, is this. On one hand you are doing:

1) telling people how they will have conversations with you, arrogantly condescending to you
and on the other hand you are doing this:
2) going "oh gosh, i want to vote for this player, how do I do it hehehehe?" (my sexy paraphrasing)

This is a pretty unfortunate mix of arrogance and playing the newbie card.

If you're town, shape up.

Goddamn marv, i envy you. Purely because these kinda posts are the reason that makes me understand why you are listened in these games and i am not.

This is pretty far in D1, maybe he figured it out or it was said in the thread that we need x twerks to do shit.

Koshi, why are you suddenly making terrible arguments?

rayn immediately "undelegated" me after his "accidental" sabotage of me. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing.

Damned. I agree.

Awwwwwwwwwwwww. There goes my MVP D:
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November 06 2013 13:48 GMT
#4468
-_-
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November 06 2013 13:50 GMT
#4472
How is SnB looking in QT?
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November 06 2013 13:57 GMT
#4477
Also why is there no Framer on the scumteam? Or is Oats a framer?
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November 06 2013 14:01 GMT
#4480
I surrender to marv.
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November 06 2013 14:33 GMT
#4490
You are dead Oats ):
I am going to try and afk for 30 hours now.
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November 06 2013 14:39 GMT
#4493
rayn knew about the powers. So unless he had a fakeclaim he couldn't have known.
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November 06 2013 14:43 GMT
#4496
Sorry. You will die.
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November 06 2013 14:44 GMT
#4497
After that Sentinel though.
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November 06 2013 14:49 GMT
#4500
I only want to not vote Oats if people believe that 2/3 scum are between SnB/Sent/Kush
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November 06 2013 14:51 GMT
#4502
On November 06 2013 23:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 23:43 Koshi wrote:
Sorry. You will die.

Why really? Like [serious]. Why?

You are providing a better target. Make a case that is stronger than the case against you and I might consider but until then you need to die.
I had a good night of sleep.
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November 06 2013 14:52 GMT
#4503
On November 06 2013 23:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is Sent in anyway scum?

Because Onegu didn't send his nuke.
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November 06 2013 14:57 GMT
#4506
That just makes me sad.
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November 06 2013 14:57 GMT
#4507
My town MVP

So far away.
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November 06 2013 14:58 GMT
#4508
Also I am creating a bad habbit checking this thread every 2 mins.
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November 06 2013 15:08 GMT
#4516
Are you really immune to nukes?
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November 06 2013 15:14 GMT
#4526
wtf Seus, Pandain, WoS and rayn had to use powers on Sentinel?
Should just lynch Sentinel now. There is 0 reasons to claim survivor atm.
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November 06 2013 15:18 GMT
#4531
Sentinel why did you claim?
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November 06 2013 15:20 GMT
#4533
On November 07 2013 00:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Can you explain more Marv? Im intrigued.

As it stands he's achieved his secondary wincon if everyone is telling the truth about their actions or lack of actions. So he should not be in the game.

he didn't nobody used powers on him.
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November 06 2013 15:22 GMT
#4538
Ok so somebody can still do something in the thread...
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November 06 2013 15:31 GMT
#4546
I am still a genius
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November 06 2013 15:35 GMT
#4550
##unvote
##vote Sentinel


Oats & Sentinel might be last 2 scum. But unless Sentinel explains his role fully and tell us who out of SnB/VA/Kush is lieing about his role he can die.

Oats doesn't have another spell that he can use ingame.
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November 06 2013 15:38 GMT
#4553
On November 07 2013 00:37 HotCottonCandy wrote:
would be an easy way to clear this up, read sentinel's role for ourselves lol. is that what you are thinking too koshi?

Yes.
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November 06 2013 15:40 GMT
#4555
You think Oats has a totally different role or an extra spell he can use? Because if Sentinel is telling the thruth Oats can't be scum or townies are holding back information.
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Koshi
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November 06 2013 15:49 GMT
#4566
Lynch Sentinel, if survivor & telling truth

RB on SNB N4
RB on Kush N4

--> Lynch one of these if there is no kill
--> Lynch Oats if there is a kill.
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November 06 2013 15:50 GMT
#4568
Says the guy that never does night actions.
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November 06 2013 16:23 GMT
#4575
On November 07 2013 00:59 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 00:46 marvellosity wrote:
On November 07 2013 00:46 strongandbig wrote:
I guess look at rayn's filter and see if his balance rage seems genuine or contrived? Like, if he actually did have a scumbuddy charger power then that whole thing would have been for our benefit right?

Idk, that would require believing the hosts told the scum team how town powers work, which I find improbable.

Why is that improbable? How else does rayn use his powers?


Rayn's role pm is carefully worded not to give any information about how it affects other people in the game. If there were going to tell him what his role actually did they could have done it any number of other ways, like "increase the costs of all their powers by 1" or whatever. Like,
If they were going to just give scum that information it's already pretty unfair IMO, since scum already have extra info about alignments, to give them also extra info about roles. But then to also make the fact that they did that a secret seems doubly bad.

Then why are you arguing Oats is scum? Or one of us blues? It doesnt make sense Hosts make it such a difficult role pm and then add a Oats to their line up. Then they could just have said "Increase amount of needed vote power by 1".

Sentinel is either scum with Oats. Or a really nice survivor that thinks Oats is town and wants to help us.
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Koshi
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November 06 2013 16:27 GMT
#4576
I want to lynch Sentinel or Kush.

Sentin Update me so I can jail and protect you next night. Or RB your scum ass.
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Koshi
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November 06 2013 16:32 GMT
#4577
Oats is town and got RB n1
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November 06 2013 16:54 GMT
#4580
On November 07 2013 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I didnt get RBed lol koshi
##Update Koshi

You are sure?
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November 06 2013 16:55 GMT
#4581
How are you sure Oats?
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November 07 2013 12:16 GMT
#4617
Nice that the day started after page 300.

I count 4 Twerks
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 06 2013 07:41 Koshi wrote:
These are the rules:
Make sure that you can get either RB by marv or Koshi. Asking how should get rewarded with a lynch.

##Twerk

On November 06 2013 07:43 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Twerk

On November 06 2013 07:55 Promethelax wrote:
##Update Koshi
##Twerk


Nice bug plays koshi, they meshed well with mine.

On November 06 2013 08:19 HotCottonCandy wrote:
##Twerk

##Update Koshi

##Yolo Promethelax

well this is repetitive

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#4619
Koshi got 5, missing SnB and Kush.

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 06 2013 07:43 marvellosity wrote:
##Update Koshi

On November 06 2013 07:55 Promethelax wrote:
##Update Koshi
##Twerk


Nice bug plays koshi, they meshed well with mine.

On November 06 2013 08:19 HotCottonCandy wrote:
##Twerk

##Update Koshi

##Yolo Promethelax

well this is repetitive

On November 07 2013 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I didnt get RBed lol koshi
##Update Koshi

On November 07 2013 01:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Update Koshi

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#4620
Prome only got 1.
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 06 2013 08:19 HotCottonCandy wrote:
##Twerk

##Update Koshi

##Yolo Promethelax

well this is repetitive

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November 07 2013 12:28 GMT
#4621
To me there are 3 options right now:

1) We lynch Oats.
On November 06 2013 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
you know what would be cool? If I was scum and got a sick fakeclaim.

2) We lynch Sentinel.
Sentinel his claim makes not much sense from Survivor mindset. He claims Survivor but still wants to lynch Oats? Why claim? I would prefer to check this claim and lynch Sentinel.
3) We lynch Kush
If we want to go for big plays and we believe Sentinel we should lynch Kush.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 07 2013 12:44 GMT
#4624
Unless he is teamed up with Oats and wants to derail lynch. But you don't believe in 4 scums so meh.
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November 07 2013 12:58 GMT
#4630
On November 07 2013 21:53 OOHCHILD wrote:
koshi why dont you want to lynch oats? flavor theory?

I don't think Oats is scum. I have said a million times that Padain was killed for his reads, in which he said Kush and SnB are scum.
WoS was killed so scum could win D3.
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Koshi
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November 07 2013 12:59 GMT
#4631
WAITTTT.
But with a 3p there are no 4 scums.

True. :/

Hmmmmm.

Still want to lynch Kush then. Pandain said rayn and Kush were scum in his last post.

##unvote
Vote: OOHCHILD
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November 07 2013 13:37 GMT
#4633
We just got to lynch scum. That's prior 1.
Need to keep lynching perfect.

If you don't believe in 4 scums, then Sentinel really is the survivor.

The question is then, did Oats roll something like dayvig and totally lied about his role. Or did Kush/SnB/VA roll something like dayvig and lied about being VT.

VA I don't believe to be scum.
Kush I believe to be scum.
SnB mehhhhh. He entered the thread with VT claim. Maybe he doesn't like being a scum dayvig after Sicilian but mehhh.
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Koshi
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November 07 2013 13:48 GMT
#4634
But I don't understand Sentinel at all... The guy is sitting on a big pile of information that clears Oats (imo it does) and then when he claimed survivor he didn't do anything with this extra information. He just sheeps Oats while Oats is so unlikely scum due to this new fact.
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Koshi
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November 07 2013 13:48 GMT
#4635
Either Oats/Sentinel are last 2 scummers.
or
Kush/SnB/VA contains 1 scummer.
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November 07 2013 13:49 GMT
#4637
FINAL ANSWER
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November 07 2013 14:55 GMT
#4639
Who you want to lynch. Because soonish you go to bed. We kinda need a good case of you.
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November 07 2013 14:57 GMT
#4641
But Kush got 20 pages. Last scummer must love this game.
Kush clearly loves this game more than SnB.
Also Kush doesn't like to lose.
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November 07 2013 15:21 GMT
#4650
On November 08 2013 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 22:37 Koshi wrote:
We just got to lynch scum. That's prior 1.
Need to keep lynching perfect.

If you don't believe in 4 scums, then Sentinel really is the survivor.

The question is then, did Oats roll something like dayvig and totally lied about his role. Or did Kush/SnB/VA roll something like dayvig and lied about being VT.

VA I don't believe to be scum.
Kush I believe to be scum.
SnB mehhhhh. He entered the thread with VT claim. Maybe he doesn't like being a scum dayvig after Sicilian but mehhh.

Lol koshi
If I was a scum dayvig does my nuke make any sense?

Why wouldn't it?
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November 07 2013 15:40 GMT
#4654
Thats dumb.

If we lynch Sent and he is not scum we learn that sent was telling the truth.
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Koshi
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November 07 2013 15:48 GMT
#4656
We should always lynch Sent over Oats.
or we believe Sent and we lynch Kush.

That's where I am.

I Oats is last scum we let marv yell at Sentinel postgame.
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November 07 2013 15:48 GMT
#4657
if* Oats...
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November 07 2013 16:21 GMT
#4661
Yeahhhhh. Wagon of Justice.
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November 07 2013 16:37 GMT
#4669
On November 08 2013 01:23 Promethelax wrote:
Convince me.

The "math" thing you wrote earlier was correct. But in that case you lynch Sentinel and not Oats.
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November 07 2013 16:47 GMT
#4672
If Sent is scum together with Oats:
It makes sense that scum knew about fake nukes. (rayn nuke Oats + no nuke Onegu)
Sent 7th power up for Oats d1.
Sents out of nowhere Survivor claim.
Seuss case on Sents was a buss case, and he knew it would be null after the night.

But you guys dont believe in 4 scums, and thus Sent is telling thruth then Oats is not the last scum. Unless he really got a sick fakeclaim like he wrote before... dnu why he wrote that tbh.......

Out of the other 3 I think Kush is most likely to flip scum.
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November 07 2013 17:20 GMT
#4674
I think the "correct" play is to lynch Sentinel. But I am ambitious.
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November 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#4678
On November 08 2013 02:52 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Oats is the last person I want to lynch atm given the circumstances. If there is 4 scum it is definitely not sent/oats together given what I just explained earlier as well

Why is Sent/Oats not together?

I could totally lynch Sentinel as well.
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November 07 2013 18:23 GMT
#4680
On November 08 2013 03:19 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 03:08 Koshi wrote:
On November 08 2013 02:52 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Oats is the last person I want to lynch atm given the circumstances. If there is 4 scum it is definitely not sent/oats together given what I just explained earlier as well

Why is Sent/Oats not together?

I could totally lynch Sentinel as well.


because why would sentinel do this big play on 4 man scum team when oats is being lynched, then be fine with oats being lynched anyway? makes no sense if they are teamed together. He would try to push his kush read more. remember sent has wanted to kill kush?

But maybe he is being sneaky?
But yeah, I agree and therefore my vote is on Kush and not on Sentinel.

You had a scumread on Sentinel the entire game. We can lynch him if you doubt the survivor claim. Like 50/50 is enough to lynch him. He didn't provide any breadcrumb, or interest to solve the game while sitting on crucial information.
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Koshi
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November 07 2013 18:42 GMT
#4682
meh. I would say lynch Sentinel tomorrow if it isn't Kush. As a present that we didn't lynch Oats today.

You think it is rather Kush over SnB?
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November 07 2013 18:55 GMT
#4684
Yeah he changed his meta. town and scum in case he is scum.
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November 07 2013 18:55 GMT
#4685
But he is pretty slimey this game.
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November 07 2013 22:09 GMT
#4691
That's a strange blue.
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November 07 2013 22:15 GMT
#4693
yep
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November 07 2013 22:16 GMT
#4694
You Oats, I Sent.
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November 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#4697
We don't know.
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November 08 2013 00:38 GMT
#4704
Voted for 24h and RB on Sent.
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November 08 2013 14:15 GMT
#4707
Why? I was also thinking about it?

Can we see Prome and VA as town reads? Kush said VA was scum.
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November 08 2013 14:27 GMT
#4709
If there are 2 scums left it can only be Oats/Sentinel imo.
If there is 1 scum left it could be everybody except Koshi from most likely to least likely in my opinion:
SnB
Oats/Prome (rain wifomed me)
Sentinel
VA
Marv
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November 08 2013 14:27 GMT
#4711
On November 08 2013 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol koshi please tell me why you think HCC is particularly town.
Also everyone ignored the case. Thanks for the encouragement. I will surely be making more cases in the future.

The SnB case or?
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November 08 2013 14:30 GMT
#4713
I will RB Sent or VA.

I will do a rng Bo11 and let you know in silent period.
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November 08 2013 14:32 GMT
#4716
On November 08 2013 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
No the case on Marv.
Fuck.

Why is VA townier than me/Prome?

There is no controversy around VA.

And I am willing to lynch SnB tomorrow.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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November 08 2013 14:40 GMT
#4719
Well. You guys can give a list of people you want to lynch tomorrow. Maybe we all should.
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Koshi
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November 08 2013 19:17 GMT
#4741
On November 09 2013 04:13 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 23:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
SnB/VA basically.

Sent is like 3p confirmed but we can lynch him so he doesnt win.


Didn't oats have me as confirmed scum? What happened?

You masoned somebody.
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Koshi
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November 08 2013 20:08 GMT
#4743
Yeah, but with Cephiro survivor claim:
The chance you are the scum that can do an in-thread action and you can also mason people during night is rather small.

ffs. Why didn't we refudiate Oats tbh.............. So dumb.
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November 08 2013 20:08 GMT
#4744
Need to be done tomorrow.
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November 08 2013 20:17 GMT
#4745
Ok I am off. I RB Sent. Can't be around for deadline.
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November 08 2013 22:35 GMT
#4751
Sent or SnB lads?
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November 08 2013 22:35 GMT
#4752
Still afk though.
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November 09 2013 14:01 GMT
#4759
Update me so we can Roleblock tonight.

##Twerk
##Refudiate Oatsmaster

##Vote: Snb


I am super afk today.
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November 09 2013 14:31 GMT
#4760
Also shouldnt bring Oats to 5 I think.
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November 09 2013 21:42 GMT
#4769
D:
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November 09 2013 23:25 GMT
#4790
Oo VA was scum? D:
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November 09 2013 23:26 GMT
#4791
Could scum NK be roleblocked?
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November 09 2013 23:31 GMT
#4795
WoS died to nuke? Evul flavor was misleading.
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November 09 2013 23:40 GMT
#4798
You went for dat noob marv instead of the Almighty Koshi.
That's where you went wrong imo.
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November 09 2013 23:41 GMT
#4799
Would be easy scumwin otherwise.
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November 09 2013 23:44 GMT
#4800
Also, you should have figured out the CobraTank.
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November 10 2013 00:15 GMT
#4807
btw this game ended after day 5, marv.

On November 06 2013 20:25 Koshi wrote:
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On November 06 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
I bet you my TL signature that the setup isn't 9-4, I bet everything I know of mafia and the universe.

ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. Noted down. In return I will give you town MVP if we finish before D5 ends.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2013 01:11 GMT
#4809
I think he only gave 100% marv guarantee
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2013 02:35 GMT
#4814
Yeah, it is kinda funny that VA had all our skills.

btw, the Endgame post is a bit fucked up with VA being in the spoilers and stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 10 2013 17:40 GMT
#4826
What a dumb argument rayn, docs in other games are hiding and don't need any upgrades...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 11 2013 19:01 GMT
#4874
OBJECTION
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
November 12 2013 01:14 GMT
#4886
Yeah, I am no fan.
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