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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:09 GMT
#1501
Bonus reason to think Cephiro and Mattchew are scummers.
On October 19 2013 02:14 Mattchew wrote:
this ceph lynch seems to be happening pretty easily
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:12 GMT
#1502
Also small adjustment to my viglist:

Mocsta
Mattchew
Cephiro

Any of these 3 will do.
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 19 2013 16:13 GMT
#1503
Now that I've time to read Cephiro's notes, they don't make any sense, but it's Cephiro so maybe he just doesn't make sense.

But you are making entirely too many connections and assumptions before a single relevant flip.
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:15 GMT
#1504
Well. That's why I am asking for a flip. Pewpewpew.

We kinda lynched the vigi though D:
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:24 GMT
#1505
Cephiro
Can you explain to me why you said this:
On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote:
I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.)


Why did you go Palmar to save yourself--> Mattchew your favorite lynch ---> back to Palmar for no reason at all??? (except to save Mattchew)

Do you see how there is no Palmar in your updated reads:
On October 19 2013 04:32 Cephiro wrote:
Kill rayn, Storr, Matt.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:25 GMT
#1506
Mocsta same question but for your sillyness.

Mattchew --> BH after Mattchew gets traction ---> Palmar
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
October 19 2013 16:26 GMT
#1507
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 19 2013 16:28 GMT
#1508
On October 19 2013 03:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 03:33 Cephiro wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote:
..... Yeah great. I see I have 1h 30 min and people are forcing a mislynch on me. Fucking amazing.

I'm getting tired of this shit, it's like if I don't post every 5 minutes like in some games I previously have I'm scum.

Well, at least you'll perhaps finally understand not to meta me. Go ahead and lynch one of the main characters. -_-

See, that's the same Shiaopi said when we lynched him in Thug Mafia. But we are not lynching only on meta, but also on you being 1500% useless on top of that.

See at least you can try and remove the useless part.


1500% useless? Yeah, I try to post once and all I do is get shit for not having posted a thousand times. Not like your one-liners are any better. Motivates me a fuckton when there were several others doing jack shit, but if I don't have the time to post every 5 minutes I'm scum. That's the worst meta shit ever.

At the moment I'm sorry to the hosts but I really don't give a flying fuck about trying to defend myself against random bs. I haven't read all the new pages yet but I assume it's some more "his post looks constructed or similar to noir, must be scum" bs.

I wish it wasn't against the spirit of the game but I really feel like signing up for every game possible, posting only once a day as town until you guys realize that's not "metagaming".
you better be town.

i abhor appeals like this.. even moreso as scum.

almost warning worthy if scum; as this transcends the gentleman rules of play.

I really can't see mafia Mocsta making this post knowing that Cephiro is mafia as well. It would either mean that he is faking his disgust or him taking advantage of very cheap play with similarly cheap play. Either way, I would be highly disappointed in him.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 19 2013 16:29 GMT
#1509
(I thought it was Koshi)
His reasoning makes complete sense when your starting point is cephiro's voteing pattern (and figure hes scum because of it). He SHOULD have stayed on mattchew according to his reads. There was no self preservation to consider when he ended up on palmar. It starts at Ceph IMO, and leads to mattchew.
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:33 GMT
#1510
On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.

No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me.

There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar.

So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam.

But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew.


Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it.


^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro)

And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads.


Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:34 GMT
#1511
On October 20 2013 01:28 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 03:39 Mocsta wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:33 Cephiro wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:27 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 19 2013 03:24 Cephiro wrote:
..... Yeah great. I see I have 1h 30 min and people are forcing a mislynch on me. Fucking amazing.

I'm getting tired of this shit, it's like if I don't post every 5 minutes like in some games I previously have I'm scum.

Well, at least you'll perhaps finally understand not to meta me. Go ahead and lynch one of the main characters. -_-

See, that's the same Shiaopi said when we lynched him in Thug Mafia. But we are not lynching only on meta, but also on you being 1500% useless on top of that.

See at least you can try and remove the useless part.


1500% useless? Yeah, I try to post once and all I do is get shit for not having posted a thousand times. Not like your one-liners are any better. Motivates me a fuckton when there were several others doing jack shit, but if I don't have the time to post every 5 minutes I'm scum. That's the worst meta shit ever.

At the moment I'm sorry to the hosts but I really don't give a flying fuck about trying to defend myself against random bs. I haven't read all the new pages yet but I assume it's some more "his post looks constructed or similar to noir, must be scum" bs.

I wish it wasn't against the spirit of the game but I really feel like signing up for every game possible, posting only once a day as town until you guys realize that's not "metagaming".
you better be town.

i abhor appeals like this.. even moreso as scum.

almost warning worthy if scum; as this transcends the gentleman rules of play.

I really can't see mafia Mocsta making this post knowing that Cephiro is mafia as well. It would either mean that he is faking his disgust or him taking advantage of very cheap play with similarly cheap play. Either way, I would be highly disappointed in him.

I agree. But as both scummers Mocsta had an easy time to catch this monstrosity and might have been so disgusted he trew it in the thread.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:41 GMT
#1512
btw JAT, you being scum has nothing to do with connection to Mattchew, it is the fact that you had REASONS for Mattchew being scum but didn't act on them when the wagon was happening.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#1513
On October 19 2013 04:16 justanothertownie wrote:
I reread Hopeless and am way less convinced than yesterday. If someone is interested in my reasoning I can post it but since he obviously won't be lynched I think this should be postponed for now.
##Vote: Cephiro

Nothing on Cephiro.

On October 19 2013 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:30 Holyflare wrote:
On October 19 2013 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 19 2013 04:27 Holyflare wrote:
Oh, nvm that was JAT saying about emotions ~_~ You haven't voted yet JAT?

Try again.


"Then there is this. As far as I know you can read people more easily when they get emotional invested so why would you tell him to step back if you are interested in learning about his alignment?"

Those are your words and you haven't voted. Ceph has been emotionally invested in his past few posts. What is your take on him? What do you even mean try again??

I have voted - that's why I said try again.
My take on Cephiro is that he is a good lynch that's why my vote is on him.

Cephiro is a good lynch. Still no reasons.

On October 19 2013 04:50 justanothertownie wrote:
I could do mattchew. I really did not like his defense of palmar and stutters.

Actual reasons to vote for somebody. Except for JAT case on Hopelessder the first reasons JAT has to think somebody is scum.

On October 19 2013 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
More towny players on Palmar than there are on Mattchew.
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar

Better vote Palmar!!!
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
October 19 2013 16:47 GMT
#1514
On October 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.

No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me.

There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar.

So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam.

But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew.


Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it.


^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro)

And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads.


Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST.

Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed.
I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam.
Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was.
I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
October 19 2013 16:49 GMT
#1515
On October 20 2013 01:41 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
btw JAT, you being scum has nothing to do with connection to Mattchew, it is the fact that you had REASONS for Mattchew being scum but didn't act on them when the wagon was happening.

I had weak reasons for Mattchew being scum and weak reasons for Palmar being scum (being useless, townreads who know him much better than I do voting him). I decided to vote Palmar. Sue me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 19 2013 16:50 GMT
#1516
Hah JAT isn't reading the thread.
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:51 GMT
#1517
On October 20 2013 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.

No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me.

There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar.

So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam.

But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew.


Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it.


^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro)

And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads.


Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST.

Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed.
I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam.
Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was.
I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA.

One of the 6 was this guy
On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote:
##vote Palmar

But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4.

So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4.
And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes.

So JAT? Why so scummy?

And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 19 2013 16:52 GMT
#1518
On October 20 2013 01:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Hah JAT isn't reading the thread.

JAT is scum or being really bad. Dnu. I am going for scum cuz I like his play normally.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
October 19 2013 16:57 GMT
#1519
On October 20 2013 01:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 20 2013 01:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn there is a problem with your logic. Mattchew was never leading in votes as far as I know. Not even close to. Your whole theory depends on Mattchew being scum - it is essentially just one big pre-flip connection case.
I voted for Palmar over Mattchew because my townreads voted him (I don't have that many of them) and he was being useless. Mocstas voting is strange though.

No JAT, don't fucking bullshit me.

There were 4 votes within 3 minutes going on Mattchew with a case of HolyFlare to fuel that wagon. There were at that time 5 votes on Palmar.

So there was reason to believe Mattchew wagon was going to happen because Palmar wagon lost steam.

But then 2 people who voted Mattchew went 180 FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL 3 minutes after they voted Mattchew.


Do not spew bullshit JAT. Don't do it.


^ What is wrong with what I say? Tell me? Why was Mattchew not happening except for the reason that 2 people (Mocsta and certainly Cephiro) who believed in the Mattchew wagon jsut went 180 and voted for either BH (what wasn't going to happen) or went back to fucking Palmar (who wasn't a scumread of Cephiro)

And then there was you who had actual point to vote on Mattchew while you were indecisive but decided to not push the Mattchew wagon at all and then went for Palmar lynch because of strong town reads.


Please give me those townreads + reasoning FAST.

Who is talking here btw. feels very much like rayn and it is not signed.
I count 6 votes on Palmar before there was even a single one on Mattchew. 2 of them came directly after cephiros list. Maybe YOU should stop spewing bullshit, yes? Palmars wagon picked up speed and did not lose steam.
Yes, Cephiros voting makes not much sense but he was really trying to not be lynched so I am not sure how rational he was.
I probably shouldn't be giving townreads right now but they are both primary targets already anyways. Syllo and LA.

One of the 6 was this guy
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 04:47 Cephiro wrote:
##vote Palmar

But he went to Mattchew. So Palmar had 5 votes and Mattchew 4.

So please JAT. DON'T TWIST MY FACTS. I said it was 5 vs 4.
And this only proves more that Mattchew wagon was getting steam. It was 6-0 first and then it went 5-4 within 5 minutes.

So JAT? Why so scummy?

And everybody knows LA and Syllo are town. Grtz on noticing that bro.

Ok, you are right I have to admit. Still doesn't make me scum at all. Mattchew already lost all steam when I voted Palmar. I could have savely voted him if we were both scum.
You asked for my townreads - I answered. Now you complain. Great.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
October 19 2013 16:57 GMT
#1520
On October 20 2013 01:52 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 01:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Hah JAT isn't reading the thread.

JAT is scum or being really bad. Dnu. I am going for scum cuz I like his play normally.

Hi Koshi.
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