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On October 22 2013 00:33 StorrZerg wrote:
@cephiro
I'm pushing on you, not for your claim, but because your doing the exact same crap you did day 1.
Like i don't understand how you think you are acting in any facet today more pro town than day 1.
My day 1 = Make one post, then come back before deadline and cause a fucking chaos as I come back trying to prove my townyness.
My day 2 = No contribution until closer to the deadline, where I'm actively discussing with everyone and providing opinions, as well as asking questions to try and figure out more.
Would you prefer me to just shut up and do nothing? I'd say I'm quite clearly trying more than yesterday, even if in a different manner.
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On October 22 2013 00:29 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
So eeuhm. Why did you steal my case Cephiro? Answer this or I change my vote, even though you are on Mattchew as well -_- ???
Explain to me how it makes sense that a townie basically copy/pastes my case on you for himself?
Because I agreed with almost everything you said and wanted to push matt, my case would've turned out very similar anyway.
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On October 22 2013 00:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
So you want to lynch mattchew because copypasta from your House QT. Thats your "Contribution"?
not buying it.
Have you even read any other posts of mine...
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On October 22 2013 00:40 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 00:36 Cephiro wrote:On October 22 2013 00:33 StorrZerg wrote:
@cephiro
I'm pushing on you, not for your claim, but because your doing the exact same crap you did day 1.
Like i don't understand how you think you are acting in any facet today more pro town than day 1. My day 1 = Make one post, then come back before deadline and cause a fucking chaos as I come back trying to prove my townyness. My day 2 = No contribution until closer to the deadline, where I'm actively discussing with everyone and providing opinions, as well as asking questions to try and figure out more. Would you prefer me to just shut up and do nothing? I'd say I'm quite clearly trying more than yesterday, even if in a different manner. what kind of question is this... My problem with you is you waited till the last 8 hours to "try" you gave 0 input the rest of the 40 hours. And FYI i'm not tunneled on you right now, i am open to you convincing me to not vote your you / vote for someone else The deal is i in no way will support any kind of vote on matt, and will fight tooth and nail on every single person who has a vote on him or attempts to get him lynched today. @Onegu, raynpelikonoshi find a different person. your votes are wasted right now
Obviously I did use some of that time keeping up with the thread, just not posting. I could have posted a little yesterday evening, but I decided not to. It's funny how much small decisions like that can reveal.
Also, I don't care if you are tunneled on me or not right now. What I care is that you stop defending Matt when he isn't even under extremely hard pressure, and tell us why from your point of view either Grack, Holy, or Hope is scum.
That's how you would be most useful right now.
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Fucking Hufflepuff. Seriously. If you believe in the house cop check and there is one scum in you, why are you not trying to pressure each other at all?
Considering Palmar = Dead, if we believe the cop check to be true, that leaves us with Grack, Matt, Holy, Hope.
And naturally everyone of those four considers themselves as town. So you should have a 33.3% chance of hitting scum even if you pick one of them randomly. Now PLEASE contribute, and tell us why you think guy X from your house is scum.
You all have access to your house QT which may be useful, and we others don't. That's why we need your input the most.
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On October 22 2013 00:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
Huh lots of people have townreads on Storr I thought. And I've been over my townread on mattchew (His filter is ugly, but its hard to see how it looks like some sort of "scum master plan" instead of just "chicken-with-it's-head-cut-off town".
PS Could lynch stutters too. He's still on the first page of filter. Say what he will, he isn't playing the game.
On the other hand, I honestly think cephiro might be the most likely scum lynch right now. Because I'm having issues seeing anybody else as better than coinflip.
Cephiro wrote:
Explain me how I am an easy way for town loss. Are you afraid I have powers that I'll kill all townies with? There is absolutely NO reason why you should be VERY HAPPY with lynching me.
Explain me also why a roleclaim proves me as town-aligned? That's just utter bullshit and blatant rolefishing. As I said before, if I'm outed, it's just more information for scum + 1 less useful townie. If I don't claim, I have a much bigger chance of messing around with the scummers with my powers.
I would also like to hear how my alignment will help with anything related D1 lynch as it was a fucking chaos. If you are town, then it was between 3 townies and that doesn't give extremely much to go by, does it?
Don't dodge my questions. I firmly believe you are town, and I want to stop this nonsense of you wasting your time on me. If you are going to push me, answer those three questions. If you won't even do that, just shut up or do something more productive. You are just constantly calling me most likely scum when you don't provide any reasons for it.
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On October 22 2013 00:57 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 00:43 Grackaroni wrote:On October 21 2013 20:33 syllogism wrote:
BH subbed into the game, hasn' t done anything and isn't playing. I don't see how he could possibly be town. I disagree with this. BH doesn't roll over as scum. In Golden Sun he was almost lynched day1, claimed survivor and then n2 Mafia night killed WoS, the survivor, in a mini game. BH kept posting all day long trying to avoid the lynch even though people already thought he was scum day1 and there was next to no chance of there being a 2nd survivor in a mini. He said he was going to be busy and /outed the game. Him not posting doesn't make him scum. It just makes him busy. I'm voting Yamato because he actually does give up as scum and just posts seal pictures when there is a red check on him. Hopefully CR will be able to post some things before deadline. I do agree with this, although BH has been utterly useless even when he has been here. I preferred yamato lynch until we, sadly, got a sub. I suppose it's possible neither BH and Yamato asked for a sub, but Yamato got one because his team did ask.
Hey confirmed townie, who would you lynch out of matt, holy and hope?
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On October 22 2013 00:58 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 00:47 Cephiro wrote:
Fucking Hufflepuff. Seriously. If you believe in the house cop check and there is one scum in you, why are you not trying to pressure each other at all?
Considering Palmar = Dead, if we believe the cop check to be true, that leaves us with Grack, Matt, Holy, Hope.
And naturally everyone of those four considers themselves as town. So you should have a 33.3% chance of hitting scum even if you pick one of them randomly. Now PLEASE contribute, and tell us why you think guy X from your house is scum.
You all have access to your house QT which may be useful, and we others don't. That's why we need your input the most. We have been?? what have you been doing? I've asked input from town multiple times on hufflepuff 3. And honestly at this point i don't think i would want to lynch from my house because everyone is active. And i don't have a hard read on any of them (matt feels strongly against hopeless). Like i'm at the point where i think its just as likely we have an unaware miller in our house, or someone framed someone in hufflepuff.
The thing is, you're one of those persons that is capable of saying the most about hufflepuff since you're one of them.
Based on the fact you noticed the same try from Pandain trying to get Grack to add him in a mason circle if he had one as I did makes me think you also consider Grack town. If you are so sure on Matt, that leaves you only hope & holy. Which of those two is scum and why? Or are you really that much more certain a hufflepuffian got framed / is an unaware miller?
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On October 22 2013 00:58 Mattchew wrote:
Im not gonna be at a computer until atleast 3 hours from now
Holyflare has posted sensibly, scum hunted and pursued his scum reads, however his scum read on me at the end of day 1 seemed really off to me. Syllo also posted a lot about the possibility of him being scum, but his power (if true) seems almost too weak for scum given all the powers and numbers town have in this game
Hopeless's powers are kinda strong and he kinda breadcrumbed he was a jat in our QT, however he could change the word role check to cop and then it could easily be a scum role, and he could have been role checking toad on behalf of his scum teammate ET... Pandain also protects him from LA, and he really does ask a lot of questions and not follow up on them
Grack has started contributing however he was also defended i believe by pandain, he has played this game with a lot of excitment and seems to post very fast without what seems like any second thought to what he has to say... His confidence is what really makes me think he is town
I think i would still pick hopeless to die first out of the three, the more i think about it the less im convinced scum would target me or anyone from our house for a framer
Thank you. This is exactly the kind of post I was waiting for.
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On October 22 2013 01:05 Mocsta wrote:
This is all reasonable.
I'm not sure I buy into the credit Syllo gives for Hopeless1der to filter dive pandain.
After all; It gives him an opportunity to manipulate content before others do & I can't really think what else Hopeless has done.
It still concerns me how easily be backed off in Day1 as he was pushing things.
Its too late, I am going to bed.
I am leaving my vote on Cephiro.
To be frank, I'm not confident he is anti-town.. however, we are ahead, and I am sick of how he keeps dangling the carrot in front of everyone. So my vote remains.
Mocsta please. I gave you the coin because I really think you are town. Don't make it go to waste by turning against me like that, I don't have many of those and they are much more helpful if you actually listen to me.
If you have to go to bed, leave your vote on one of the hufflescum at least.
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EBWOP: Was meant to be together with the above, messed up multiquoting.
On October 22 2013 01:02 syllogism wrote:
I'm not answering your questions and I've essentially answered that question multiple times.
You're not being helpful at all.
@Sn0_Man: Finally, thank you for realizing. Enables us to concentrate on more important matters, which of finding the Hufflescum is #1 for me currently.
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On October 22 2013 01:10 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2013 00:57 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
StorrZerg you have absolutely no idea how Pandain interacts with his scumbuddies.
Storr & Matt, rephrase your QT. Now. I don't believe your bullshit with no proof given.
-rayn Hufflepuff as a house has established that storr and matt are town. Stop trying to strongarm them. They had a mason chat and decided they were mutually town. Deal. With. It.
Cephiro What in the hell was up with your vote on Palmar? What are you thoughts on me, grack, or holy? Stop blaming hufflepuff for not solving who to lynch FOR town. Are you part of us or not, do your own work instead of pawning responsibility onto everyone else. You've been active. You haven't been actively hunting scum. Mattchew absolutely doesn't count, especially in light of you apparently stealing someone elses case.
I would have loved to hear this statement that it is an common opinion that you all agree with. (Storr & matt both being town.)
If you all very firmly believe so, that leaves only you and holy for me, and atm I think you are looking better than holy. I have not provided analytive case posts because I have wanted to hear more from the house members and what has been going on in your QT, and your opinions on each other before finishing them. Even in the few hours up to now my reads have changed significantly. I don't see why I should make an "unfinished case".
As for the case-steal, I will come out now and say that it was just a ploy. JAT & rayko can confirm this. I intendendly copied his read after asking if he was okay with, and asked him to call me out for it. I got what I needed from it, so I wish that will be left alone now as it's very likely something others will not get much out of.
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On October 22 2013 01:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
A) You ignored the palmar vote shenanigans.
B) The highlighted is scummy considering we are discussing things in our QT and can vouch for our reads concerning one another. You should not require OUR reads to form your own. You're stalling and planning to tailor your reads to Hufflepuff sentiment however it can suit you.
A) Sorry, did not mean to. See below.
B) I want to hear your opinion of the QT stuff because it's extremely valuable information that none of us outside has. I don't want to steal your reads, I want to hear them. More importantly, I WANT THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN YOUR QT I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. Makes reading into the posts by hufflepuffians much easier.
On October 19 2013 04:45 Cephiro wrote:
I prefer Mattchew as my first lynch option, but to avoid myself from dying I will vote for anyone but myself that is about to gain votes. (I only know myself to be town, so from my perspective lynching anyone else than me > lynching me.)
On October 19 2013 04:50 Cephiro wrote:
Also for the "Palmar modkill speculation"
Assuming worst case scenario: (Both me and him are town)
If we lynch Palmar -> Palmar dies (-1 Town?)
If we lynch Me -> I die (-1 Town, possibly -2 if palmar gets modkilled and is town)
All aboard the Palmar wagon? >_>
Is there something unclear about this?
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I jumped to Mattchew because for a second it looked like it could be happening. I jumped back to Palmar after I realized it's not gonna happen when one of the initiators if I remember correctly (Mocsta), removed his vote from Mattchew. And I wanted to ensure that I do not get lynched myself. In the end as you can see, Palmar won by quite a fair margin.
There really isn't more to that.
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Also we definitely should lynch either hope or holy tonight. If all these hufflepuffians believe in Storr & Matt so strongly, that either leaves.
A) Scum is holy or hope (Grack is extremely unlikely to be scum based on his thread presence, and the pandain mason query.)
B) Cop check is bullshit
C) Scum matt managed to talk Storr over to believe in him.
With matt's recent reactions I am very firmly believing it is either hope or holy. Holy looking worse right now in my opinion.
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EBWOP: Before someone thinks I did not consider that, B) covers both the possibility of Storr lying, or the check being framed.
So how many others believe there were valid targets in Hufflepuff to be framed, or that there is an unaware miller and no real scum in there?
Occam's Razor, go figure. There's scum in hufflepuff and we should lynch it.
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On October 22 2013 01:55 syllogism wrote:
You don't need me to tell that at all. I'm not voting to lynch anyone in hufflepuff today and do not want anyone else to do that either.
.... Confirmed town.
Plays anti-town.
SYLLO PLEASE.
At least provide a better target if you for some reason don't want to lynch hufflepuff today. With all the information available in the thread, I find it quite clear that lynching in hufflepuff has the highest chance of hitting scum.
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There was some kind of claim stutters was mason with lastargument wasn't there?
I disagree stutters play as well, and he is certainly a valid lynch target, but I'd really rather lynch into the hufflescum we are very likely to hit, compared to gambling with the lurker lynches.
And yeah ty JAT & Sn0, rechecked syllos recent posts (should've done that first), but i totally got in the playing mood where i post first and think after. (Which is why the high amount of posting).
Anyway, Hufflescum lynch > Lurker lynch. We are very likely to hit scum in hufflepuff, and it will give us much more information rather than lynching a lurker.
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On October 22 2013 01:59 syllogism wrote:
I'm not lynching into a pool of active players that has mafia, when I can lynch into a pool of inactive player that has mafia.
Could you share this KNOWLEDGE that one of those lurkers is mafia? As a modconfirmed town you have no way of being sure. And for their amount of posting, it's extremely hard to say whether they are town or not. + They may be modkilled. Use the information we have here in thread and use your skill you should have to deduct the hufflescum.
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I'm voting for either holy or hope today, unless some chaos roleclaiming or weird shit ensues. Still need to ensure which of those two is more likely to flip scum.
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