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Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
November 03 2013 12:24 GMT
#5841
I apologize for any kind of inconsistencies regarding mod decisions. I'll make sure to prep my hosting team thoroughly next time so these things don't happen again! ^^

In retrospect, we should have just modkilled yamato/CR. Hindsight is 20/20
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 03 2013 12:49 GMT
#5842
Thnx to the hosts.

Thnx to JAT for keeping this game a town-win.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 03 2013 16:48 GMT
#5843
Why did mafia throw a kp at me knowing i wouldn't die? since i got the bonus +.5
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 16:55 GMT
#5844
On November 04 2013 01:48 StorrZerg wrote:
Why did mafia throw a kp at me knowing i wouldn't die? since i got the bonus +.5



We double shot you with wand but BH was RB
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 03 2013 17:00 GMT
#5845
Would have preferred not to get modkilled since I asked for replacement as soon as the situation arose (2 weeks ago), but meh. CR did what he could and town lynched him for it anyway; their mistake.
Writer@WriterYamato
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 03 2013 17:03 GMT
#5846
On November 04 2013 01:55 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 01:48 StorrZerg wrote:
Why did mafia throw a kp at me knowing i wouldn't die? since i got the bonus +.5



We double shot you with wand but BH was RB


missed that part
sweet lol

well even if i died, the check comes out. So that was good then.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 03 2013 17:05 GMT
#5847
On November 04 2013 02:00 yamato77 wrote:
Would have preferred not to get modkilled since I asked for replacement as soon as the situation arose (2 weeks ago), but meh. CR did what he could and town lynched him for it anyway; their mistake.

Uh, he just specifically said that he tried to play as poorly as possible because someone playing that poorly can't be mafia. That's not doing what "he could", but I do think that his strategy would have had some merit if he had explained it before the lynch.

He essentially got lynched due to you constantly indicating that you would be active and then disappearing without a word after 3 mafia flipped on n1. Probably not a good lynch overall, but it's hard to ignore promises of activity in these circumstances.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 03 2013 17:11 GMT
#5848
On November 04 2013 02:05 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 02:00 yamato77 wrote:
Would have preferred not to get modkilled since I asked for replacement as soon as the situation arose (2 weeks ago), but meh. CR did what he could and town lynched him for it anyway; their mistake.

Uh, he just specifically said that he tried to play as poorly as possible because someone playing that poorly can't be mafia. That's not doing what "he could", but I do think that his strategy would have had some merit if he had explained it before the lynch.

He essentially got lynched due to you constantly indicating that you would be active and then disappearing without a word after 3 mafia flipped on n1. Probably not a good lynch overall, but it's hard to ignore promises of activity in these circumstances.

When someone replaces out in these types of circumstances, you should probably not assume things as you did about why it is they replaced out.
Writer@WriterYamato
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 03 2013 17:13 GMT
#5849
On November 04 2013 02:11 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 02:05 syllogism wrote:
On November 04 2013 02:00 yamato77 wrote:
Would have preferred not to get modkilled since I asked for replacement as soon as the situation arose (2 weeks ago), but meh. CR did what he could and town lynched him for it anyway; their mistake.

Uh, he just specifically said that he tried to play as poorly as possible because someone playing that poorly can't be mafia. That's not doing what "he could", but I do think that his strategy would have had some merit if he had explained it before the lynch.

He essentially got lynched due to you constantly indicating that you would be active and then disappearing without a word after 3 mafia flipped on n1. Probably not a good lynch overall, but it's hard to ignore promises of activity in these circumstances.

When someone replaces out in these types of circumstances, you should probably not assume things as you did about why it is they replaced out.

Of course I won't ignore this kind of evidence, especially if the replacement doesn't play either. The only information available to me was what you said about your activity and taking that information into account in the absence of other information is much better than ignoring it completely.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
November 03 2013 17:13 GMT
#5850
On November 03 2013 20:50 Onegu wrote:
@ JaT what made you shoot me over rayn and grack?

My scumread on you, the redcheck on you + my townreads on rayn and grack.
On November 03 2013 20:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:
If Onegu had the third deathly hallow killing me would have won him the game. If I wasn't shot and he had it I would have won.



The only way for me to win was to shoot you, I couldnt let you keep the wand, I knew you had it from BH. You knew scum knew you had the wand you should have told town you had it and what it did during resolution, in case you were wrong about me.

No, I couldn't tell it to the thread because of the same reasons I couldn't tell I had the cloak before. The cloak is a fucking anti town item. It makes you immune to any non-KP night actions which means you can't be saved by docs or swapped with another person. If I told the thread I had the cloak scum could have instantly just shot me and knew there was no way for anyone to do something against it. I was pretty sure you were the last scum so I just shot you.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 03 2013 17:15 GMT
#5851
JAT: If you had told me during the final night about the winning condition and your item, I would have roleblocked Onegu since randomizing Grack's action already sufficiently minimized the potential damage he could do.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
November 03 2013 17:17 GMT
#5852
Roleblocking wouldn't have stopped his KP though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
November 03 2013 17:18 GMT
#5853
Although I have to admit there was no way for me to know that at that time.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 17:19:17
November 03 2013 17:18 GMT
#5854
Yes it would have. We had strong evidence indicating that RB blocks factional kp and it turns out it did.

e: or does it? I guess if BH used the wand, perhaps it doesn't.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 17:20:20
November 03 2013 17:19 GMT
#5855
No, it didn't? The only KP that were blocked this game were Elder Wand KP.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 17:29 GMT
#5856
Yeah it blocks the wand but not the factional KP, and JaT you knew scum had to shoot you there was no way to let you keep the wand and win at that point. And since you knew this no reason not to tell town.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
November 03 2013 17:33 GMT
#5857
But what reason was there to tell them if they can't save me anyways? Also scum didn't knew I had the cloak also so I thought if I kept that hidden there was at least a possibility that you don't shoot me because I was a good doc/redirect target.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 17:38:05
November 03 2013 17:36 GMT
#5858
Perhaps randomizing his actions could have worked? Anyway, you didn't know that roleblocking doesn't work so that's hardly a good reason. Also, we might have lynched someone besides Skanjabs if we had known mafia had been playing for an alternative win con and that they had more than 1 kp at some points of the game. I was convinced that Onegu would have conceded the game earlier if he was mafia, but that's because I didn't know they could still win.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
November 03 2013 17:37 GMT
#5859
Yeah, maybe... sorry I didn't think it through very well. I was really hungover and didn't put any time into the game the last night.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 17:39 GMT
#5860
On November 04 2013 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:
But what reason was there to tell them if they can't save me anyways? Also scum didn't knew I had the cloak also so I thought if I kept that hidden there was at least a possibility that you don't shoot me because I was a good doc/redirect target.



Ok you are confirmed town, syllo confirmed town, mocsta close to confirmed. One scum between me grack and rayn, no matter who it is they know you have the wand from BH. They cannot let you keep the wand and be able to shoot into the scum pool each night and win. They have to shoot you and get the wand back. There is no other possible shots that night knowing you have the wand.
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