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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 03 2013 17:39 GMT
#5861
Wait, I didn't know scum played to that wincon. There was no way for me to know Onegu had the last hallow and between skanjab1s and Onegu I was not sure who the scum was.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 03 2013 17:40 GMT
#5862
On November 04 2013 02:39 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:
But what reason was there to tell them if they can't save me anyways? Also scum didn't knew I had the cloak also so I thought if I kept that hidden there was at least a possibility that you don't shoot me because I was a good doc/redirect target.



Ok you are confirmed town, syllo confirmed town, mocsta close to confirmed. One scum between me grack and rayn, no matter who it is they know you have the wand from BH. They cannot let you keep the wand and be able to shoot into the scum pool each night and win. They have to shoot you and get the wand back. There is no other possible shots that night knowing you have the wand.

Well yes there is. You did not need to kill me instantly just because of the wand. That's why I called for people to protect me.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 03 2013 17:41 GMT
#5863
On November 04 2013 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Wait, I didn't know scum played to that wincon. There was no way for me to know Onegu had the last hallow and between skanjab1s and Onegu I was not sure who the scum was.

Right, but since it was impossible for mafia to win in any other way, it's reasonable to assume that they are. No one else was talking about deathly hallows, so a townie probably didn't have them.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 17:42 GMT
#5864
there are only 3 possible scum players left, if you keep the wand, shoot one, lynch one, and shoot again. Even if mocsta is scum then its 2v1 and he gets lynched in lylo.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 03 2013 17:44 GMT
#5865
On November 04 2013 02:41 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Wait, I didn't know scum played to that wincon. There was no way for me to know Onegu had the last hallow and between skanjab1s and Onegu I was not sure who the scum was.

Right, but since it was impossible for mafia to win in any other way, it's reasonable to assume that they are. No one else was talking about deathly hallows, so a townie probably didn't have them.

Not necessarily. The description of the hallows suggested it was a wincon for only the person who gets them all. I only heard it was for your fraction when they said that AFTER THE GAME WAS OVER. Also Hopeless had the stone for the majority of the game and didn't say anything. I suspected sno to have it though...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 03 2013 17:44 GMT
#5866
On November 04 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote:
there are only 3 possible scum players left, if you keep the wand, shoot one, lynch one, and shoot again. Even if mocsta is scum then its 2v1 and he gets lynched in lylo.

Yeah, no nightkills right?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 17:45 GMT
#5867
On November 04 2013 02:41 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Wait, I didn't know scum played to that wincon. There was no way for me to know Onegu had the last hallow and between skanjab1s and Onegu I was not sure who the scum was.

Right, but since it was impossible for mafia to win in any other way, it's reasonable to assume that they are. No one else was talking about deathly hallows, so a townie probably didn't have them.



I was actually thinking of how to win without getting them as I thought the cloak straight up made you immune, and I thought mocsta had it. So I was planning on not getting shot getting a mislynch and shooting both of you hopeing to kill one of you to make it 1v1 if I couldnt get the hallows
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 03 2013 17:46 GMT
#5868
You have received the Invisibility Cloak. It makes you immune to any night Actions except for KP. Once you die, the item will be given to the person who killed you.

If you manage to gather all three Deathly Hallows, you win the game.

Now tell me you read that your faction wins if you collect all of them...
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 03 2013 17:46 GMT
#5869
I don't think scum should have been able to RNG into the elder wand. I mean yeah they ended up needing it to stay in the game but it could have very easily made the game unwinnable for town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 03 2013 17:48 GMT
#5870
On November 04 2013 02:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
I don't think scum should have been able to RNG into the elder wand. I mean yeah they ended up needing it to stay in the game but it could have very easily made the game unwinnable for town.

True. Especially considering how close they got to winning although they lost half their team N1. But this game was really luck based anyways so it's ok I guess.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 03 2013 17:50 GMT
#5871
Oh I also didn't bring up the stone because I was supposed to live an extra 24 hours, but hosts made an error. If/when I died I was going to reveal it. I had no way to get the other hallows so it wasn't worth bringing up in my opinion.

Side note id tried to cop check onegu the night I died. No idea how that would have turned out.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 17:50 GMT
#5872
On November 04 2013 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote:
there are only 3 possible scum players left, if you keep the wand, shoot one, lynch one, and shoot again. Even if mocsta is scum then its 2v1 and he gets lynched in lylo.

Yeah, no nightkills right?



The first NK has to be on you. I guess the only way not shooting you would work would be if mocsta was scum. If grack me or rayn are scum it gg if scum doesnt shoot you. ie Rayn is scum. You shoot me, rayn, nk syllo. JaT, grack, rayn, mocsta alive. Mislynch grack. Night actions rayn shoots you you shoot rayn. Mocsta is only player left alive and wins.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 17:51:24
November 03 2013 17:51 GMT
#5873
@ Hopeless: Oh yeah I read about that. Unfortunate for you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 03 2013 17:52 GMT
#5874
On November 04 2013 02:50 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 04 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote:
there are only 3 possible scum players left, if you keep the wand, shoot one, lynch one, and shoot again. Even if mocsta is scum then its 2v1 and he gets lynched in lylo.

Yeah, no nightkills right?



The first NK has to be on you. I guess the only way not shooting you would work would be if mocsta was scum. If grack me or rayn are scum it gg if scum doesnt shoot you. ie Rayn is scum. You shoot me, rayn, nk syllo. JaT, grack, rayn, mocsta alive. Mislynch grack. Night actions rayn shoots you you shoot rayn. Mocsta is only player left alive and wins.

Whatever I shot you and it is over. GG.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 17:54:21
November 03 2013 17:53 GMT
#5875
On November 04 2013 02:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
Oh I also didn't bring up the stone because I was supposed to live an extra 24 hours, but hosts made an error. If/when I died I was going to reveal it. I had no way to get the other hallows so it wasn't worth bringing up in my opinion.

Side note id tried to cop check onegu the night I died. No idea how that would have turned out.

They should have just allowed you to play for the 24 hours regardless of the flip. Knowing your alignment for those 24 hours pre-flip wouldn't really have impacted the game at all and most players already considered you town. The error was made and the option was between not allowing you to play or allowing, and the latter was clearly fairer in these circumstances.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 17:53 GMT
#5876
On November 04 2013 02:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
Oh I also didn't bring up the stone because I was supposed to live an extra 24 hours, but hosts made an error. If/when I died I was going to reveal it. I had no way to get the other hallows so it wasn't worth bringing up in my opinion.

Side note id tried to cop check onegu the night I died. No idea how that would have turned out.



Yeah at first I thought syllo had it and I got it when he was shot and he was going to flip 24 hours later. Thats why I asked so many questions about it.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 03 2013 17:54 GMT
#5877
On November 04 2013 02:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
Oh I also didn't bring up the stone because I was supposed to live an extra 24 hours, but hosts made an error. If/when I died I was going to reveal it. I had no way to get the other hallows so it wasn't worth bringing up in my opinion.

Side note id tried to cop check onegu the night I died. No idea how that would have turned out.

Actually that means Onegu shouldn't even have had the Stone last night according to the post game discussion so he couldn't have won anyways.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 03 2013 17:55 GMT
#5878
On November 04 2013 02:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 02:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
Oh I also didn't bring up the stone because I was supposed to live an extra 24 hours, but hosts made an error. If/when I died I was going to reveal it. I had no way to get the other hallows so it wasn't worth bringing up in my opinion.

Side note id tried to cop check onegu the night I died. No idea how that would have turned out.

Actually that means Onegu shouldn't even have had the Stone last night according to the post game discussion so he couldn't have won anyways.



No I would have gotten it at the night post. He would flip with skanjabs.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 03 2013 17:56 GMT
#5879
On November 04 2013 02:53 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 02:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
Oh I also didn't bring up the stone because I was supposed to live an extra 24 hours, but hosts made an error. If/when I died I was going to reveal it. I had no way to get the other hallows so it wasn't worth bringing up in my opinion.

Side note id tried to cop check onegu the night I died. No idea how that would have turned out.

They should have just allowed you to play for the 24 hours regardless of the flip. Knowing your alignment for those 24 hours pre-flip wouldn't really have impacted the game at all and most players already considered you town.

Yeah I didn't really fight to stay in the game just kind of said welp I guess I'll go read the obsqt (which I'd already received before the error was identified). I maybe could have honor systemed into the 24 hours but I consider dead=dead when I flipped.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 03 2013 17:56 GMT
#5880
Hmm, Ok. Still his readcheck on you would have made us lynch you instead of skanjab.
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